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Day 1,520 – Daily assessment: understandingwar.org/analysis/russia-ukraine/#research

▶Latest
>EU's €90bn loan for Ukraine and the 20th sanctions package against russia formally approved
>Drone forces destroyed the command post and rear deployment point of the FSB’s Directorate of Mobile Operations in the temporarily occupied Donetsk.
>russian communist party gen. sec. Zyuganov predicts total collapse of the so-called the federation on the russia by August 2026 under current trajectory
>US is now using Ukrainian anti-drone equipment to defend their bases - Reuters
>Ukraine has repaired the section of the Druzhba oil pipeline damaged by russian shelling
>Smoooking accident at the Tuapse refinery
>Smoooking accident at the Fosagro chemical plant in Cherepovets
>Szijjártó (orbán's FM) has barricaded himself with some of his closest colleagues and is shredding documents related to the sanctions on russia and any other evidence of treason
>Hungarian PM candidate Magyar talks of 'pragmatic' ties with moscow but clearly sides with Ukraine on war: russia is the aggressor in the war, Ukraine has the right for self determination, Ukraine's territorial integrity must be respected, etc., he is happy with the €90bn Ukraine deal as agreed in December last year (which included an opt-out for Hungary)
>Magyar does not support Ukraine's fast-track EU accession but he will do everything in his power to diversify oil and gas sources and routes for Hungary (=less reliance on russia)
>The kremlin will not congratulate Magyar on his election victory in Hungary; it is an unfriendly country

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▶12 min of TZD in one ditch (Pokrovsk area) - 28 killed
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>>533740307
>Ukraine and NATO can't beat some mongoloid churkas with Mosins in 4 years
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KILL ALL FUCKING GAYS. YOU GUYS ARE GONNA LOSE BASHING THE FASH BECAUSE JEWS DONT GIVE A FUCK
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thank you baker
also heil Prokopenko and heil Kapustin :D
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>hohols still taking it up the ass
And will keep doing so until the last hohol virgin ass is thoroughly fucked

Take that, BRICS!
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how big a golden toilet do €90billion buy?
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Starts with a T
Goes with a Z
End with a D
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TOTAL
Zigger
DEATH

I hate russians so fucking much
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La France doin their part for TZD
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>>533740368
damn, we got russian pidoration prolapse before GTA 6
lmaola
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To the last Ukrainian! Too bad for Ukraine that the people who hate Ukrainians the most are those that seem to insist that they support them.
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russians be like:
>pee pee
>poo poo
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>>533740705
russniggers are done lmao
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Fucking dirty evil terrorist gay pieces of shit causing this war
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>>533740307
TOTAL ZIGGER DEATH
ZIGGER
DEATH
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Total Zigger Death?
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>>533740938
To answer your question, yes, Total Zigger Death.
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ziggers don't even bother replacing the fuel tanks at theodosia anymore
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>>533741052
Ponder the fragrance
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So now that i learned blue whale gets an israel flag. Any Jürgen wants to build an AUV with me? Apparently even the ukrainians are still lacking in this area.
Project name: Tiefenneger
Specialty: sit somewhere and let ocean current reload the battery.
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>>533741271
Which country fields the beige one.. oh right.
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The amount of Ritter/MacGregor slop I've had to block on youtube is amazing. Turdies fucking LOVE retarded burger contrarians it seems.
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>>533740466
Don't they have submarines in the black sea fleet?
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Russcunt enters the cube with burns, holes and broken bones.
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Did I miss the arrows? Luv me arrows me.
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>>533741513
Whoa...that was cool.
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>>533741513
Brutal
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>>533741408
Literally just reconnaissance. They have nothing underwater besides regular torpedoes. It's actually hilarious.
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>>533741513
Neat.
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If only you knew how brown things really are
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>>533740307
TZD, But I like the 1978 Lords of the Ring Cartoon!
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>>533741271
how can anyone look at these underwater robots and not find them unbelievably cool?
i unironically fucking love science.
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>>533741913
Goedenavond swa.
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>>533741271
Take a Marichka and add a means for it to latch onto the hulls of commercial ships. Make it so the coupling can be stowed away, in order to befuddle Russians seeing Marichkas fucking them up at Vladivostok.
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>>533740550
>>533740927
Russians will look at this and tell you "Im winning"
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>>533740307
I just want to say from the bottom of my heart, thank you. Thank you for being warriors for the LGBTQ+ community. You give us immense courage in the face of russia hatefully banning and attacking us. Xoxo much love
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>>533742474
Now you have debased yourself enough you can go back to chug and stay there
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why can't these two retards just get along?
they're basically the same ethnicity and race and speak the same language (Russian)
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>>533742817
too much homosex in Russia
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>>533742817
Well they could but one of them invaded the other. Of course, they could just go home and all of this would stop.
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DIRTY FUCKING GAY PIECES OF SHIT. I DONT WANT UKRAINE TO BE A GAY MULTICULTURAL SHITHOLE
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>>533743030
yes and that is why we must stop Russia or it will become like Moscow
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>>533743030
>>533743094
So you want it to be a necropolis instead?
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>>533742005
goeieavond brada
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>>533743018
look at your russcunt cumrags, join them
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>>533743161
whats the other option?
forced homorape camps and churkas roaming the streets with aks?
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>>533742817
>imaging USA invading Canada
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>>533743161
Ruspidors don't even bother to collect their dead and give them a proper burial.
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>>533742817
Kill yourself, faggot nigger
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>>533742817
Same as Pakistan, India and Bangladesh are the same countries with the same language
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>>533742159
>Take a Marichka and add a means for it to latch onto the hulls of commercial ships.
Had somewhat of a related idea to give them a modular detonation head, i.e. the drone would sneak up on ships, attach the payload instead of sacrificing itself, let it detonate when reaching safe distance, rearm at base. Anything that sounds interesting to get those first big defence bucks.
Your idea sounds pretty cool for patrol drones though. Somali pirates be fucked.

>>533741990
Found my Jürgen. Unironically tempted to look for projects on the weekend.
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>>533743018
Sorry, meant that for the russtard >>533742817
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>>533740624
>Mirage 2000
Which is being retired by like everyone because it's an outdated piece of shit.
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>>533743898
My brown friend, you do realize that they're primarily used as cruise missile carriers, replacing the Su-24 bombers, which are even older and impossible to service?
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>>533744090
>Ukraine
>Cruise missiles
Lol. Also doesn't Ukraine has to hide it's remaining few SU-24's in forests, take off from roads and basically just pop up and fire then land to keep them from getting blown up. Also good luck getting parts for these ancient things.
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>>533740307

When will the pigkraine stop losing?
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>>533744185
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>>533744185
>Lol
Truly, lmao even
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>>533744324
Was that russias main electronics manufacturing plant being completely destroyed by 5 Ukrainian cruise missiles?
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>Ukrainian “Gnome” ground combat robot in service with the 65th MRB, seen here firing one of its RPGs.

>1x 7.62mm PK machine gun, 2x RPGs, one loaded with an antitank PG-7 series HEAT warhead and another with an HE Frag OG-7 antipersonnel warhead.
demilitarization ctatyc?
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>>533744534
Not the main, but specifically an extremely important MIC supplier.
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>>533744324
>Meanwhile Russia produces 1,000 Shaheds per day and Ukraine has no AD
>Nobody has any capability to supply Ukraine with cruise missiles, that's why they are trying to produce the Flamingo in limited quantities
So in return for your entire population getting killed, you receive outdated budget fighters. Good trade. I guess I'll watch you try to spin this in increasingly absurd ways.
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>>533744726
Bore off you boring fucking bore.
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>>533744726
>No AD
And yet it's puccia that's constantly burning, lol
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>>533744788
>Year 4 of Ukrainian victory
I think this propaganda wore off 4 years ago, anon.
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>>533742817
russians are niggers
ukrainians aren't
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>>533744873
I don't care what you think. TZD continues .
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>>533744946
>We will retake Crrimea and the Donbas
Nope. Not gonna happen. That's why you guys sit here and post TZD all day, because you are dogs of the west and NATO who will sell out and kill your countrymen so some Russians die or something. Literally the worst type of traitor to your country and people.
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>>533744726
Wait... you're serious? Lmao.
How very brown of you.
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Lmao this shitskin greentexting stuff out of thin air.
Try harder rajeesh
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>>533744185
>Ukraine
>Cruise missiles
yes. it's called SCALP-EG (aka Storm Shadow) and is native to the Mirage2000 platform. they can also use AASM Hammer laser guided glide bombs and MICA medium-range A2A missiles.
they are a good and capable plane with lots of ordinance and a major upgrade from the MiG-29s and Su-24s that they use now.
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God damn that shill is dumb and unfunny. Where are the funny retards? Beige? Mearshy? MARXIO? The fucking danish troon?
Seriously this one is dumb and sad
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>>533745156
So an expensive weapon Ukraine has no more of, which Russia can shoot down.
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>>533744726
Not sure if you're a zigger or a lazy larping migger or just unaware how this war started and how it evolves so many times.
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It is impossible to kill a zigger without a cruise missile. It is a good thing because russia keep intercepting cruise missiles with their refineries
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>which Russia can shoot down.
who's going to tell him about the effectiveness of throwing bananas at cruise missiles?
and then who's going to tell him about the cost of bananas?
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>>533745740
Looks like an underpaid latkha intern, desperately trying to avoid the broom.
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>>533744276
holy shit its Danemami
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>>533745688
oh really? then what put these holes in the roof of the Kremniy EL plant in Bryansk last month? tactical spitwads?
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Are ya still kekarooin' backwards fellas?
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>shoot down
punya can't into air defense
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>>533745688
>Ukraine has no more of
We are still supplying storm shadows.
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>>533745774
>bananas
literal war crimes, I can see it gets more expensive everyday
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>>533745103
Lel. You are aware that the Ukrainian counter offensive only occurred during a Russian withdrawal, right? Zelensky agreed to no NATO and Russia began withdrawing from the Kiev region. That's when Istanbul talks began and Boris Johnson pledged the full weight of NATO support and told Zelesnsky to reneg. So an act of perfidy, otherwise explain the failure of 2023.
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>>533740307

When will the pigkraine stop losing?
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>You are aware that the Ukrainian counter offensive only occurred during a Russian withdrawal, right?
russian army withdrawals? that's a discrediting of the russian army, off the gulag with you.
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>>533745968
>perfidy
That does not sound very British.
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>>533745888
How many? What is the successful sortie rate? So a very expensive weapon that's even more expensive to use.
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>>533745968
How come your spoon has a hole in it?
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>>533746090
there is no panic in balakliya. it is a gesture of goodwill. army returned safely to port. boris johnson was behind it.
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>>533746175
>So a very expensive weapon that's even more expensive to use.
Money is an afterthought in total zigger death.
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>>533745968
Are you trannies still pushing this retarded cope? kek
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>>533746175
either the sortie success rate is high and a handful of storm shadows hitting a single building means russian AA is ineffective or nonexistent, or the success rate is low and they're just not that expensive to build and can be feasibly used to saturate russian AA. I guess the last one is slightly less embarrassing, but tell us how your handler feels about it
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>>533746486
So then what was the reason for talks beginning just a few days after the initial invasion?
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>>533745968
>Perfidy
Look, I can tell that English is not your real first language because of this. It's not perfidy, it's per fiddy. Like in pic rel. I get that times are tough and the broom handle is long and cold, but you gotta learn if you want to survive.
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>>533746740
Because that's what happens in wars, retard
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>>533746486
i think that is the official narrative of the russian mod, which makes it even funnier. he has to say it or he gets the broom.
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>>533746823
So then that's why Zelensky said he wouldn't join NATO and agreed to talks in Istanbul.
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>Source suspisciously omited
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>>533747381
>I can't search
Newsweek
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>>533747651
I'm not looking for your sources nigga.
The article mention it was an offer to Moscow to end the war, but Moscow refused.
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>>533747811
Shitskin tries to frame something his way and you just look up the article? That's pucciophobic and shitskinphobic.
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>>533747811
https://www.newsweek.com/zelensky-nato-russia-putin-war-ukraine-1688145
>Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelensky has accepted that his country will not become a member of NATO, one of the demands made by Russia before it invaded.

>Last week, Zelensky told ABC News that he had "cooled down" on Ukraine's bid to join the alliance "long ago." He said this came "after we understood that NATO is not prepared to accept Ukraine."
Apr. 9 is when Boris Johnson flies to Kiev while talks ongoing and tells Zelensky to fight. So actually he flew to Istanbul first, then to Kiev.
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>>533747928
The lesson to learn in all this is, it is useless to try to placate Russia. You give them an off-ramp, you try to meet them halfway, you give them a deal? Their shills will come out four year later and use that against you.
They need to die, all of them, there is no dealing with them as you deal with humans
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>>533747279
Are you genuinely too retarded to understand the mere concept of negotiations?
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>>533747928
>Accuse someone of making something up
>Immediately proceed to make something up
The article makes no mention of that.
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>>533748041
>They all need to die
Agreed. They can be useful as fertilizer
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>>533748041
this was also when russia was pushing the "denazification" and "demilitarization" lines. which basically amounted to "surrender and hand your sovereignty to us and make it so we can roll on you whenever we want to just in case your politicians ever decide to leave us again".
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>>533748014
>NATO itself said long ago it can't let Ukraine join because it has unresolved territory disputes
>Ukraine itself said long ago they know they can't join NATO until its unresolved border issues are solved
>Russia still kept the war going despite "muh NATO expansion" clearly being pure cope
>for some reason, this means that Boris Johnson is responsible for the war drinks the blood of Donbass children and shit
You people are funny.
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>>533748209
>Why no I don't read my own fucking sources
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>>533748209
Yes, shitskin, we know you struggle with English. Tell your handler to give you some tasks which don't require reading.
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>>533748370
It says right fucking there that not joining NATO could end the war. You are literally trying to frame the article your way lmao.
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why do russcunts burn so pleasantly?
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>>533748359
>drinks the blood of Donbass children
Only when he's not pissing in the Moscow reservoir.
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>>533748511
>However,
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>>533748511
It says it is a bid to try to placate moscow, but moscow wants total capitulation (demilitarize under an ungoing attack, which is an open call to surrender and "denazify", which is code for retaking yanoukovich under a kremlin controlled regime).
You may legitimately be retarded. I hope someone pays you to look that fucking dumb
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>>533748572
However what? So far we have Zelensky agreeing not to join NATO and then reneging after the involvement of the UK. This is pure cope.
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>>533748511
>It says right fucking there that not joining NATO could end the war.
It absolutely does nothing of the sort you lying nigger. Putin demanded tons of other unrealistic bullshit. Ukraine wasn't even close to joining NATO when Russia invaded anyways. Anyone that still thinks this war is about NATO is a mega retarded drooling nigger.
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>>533748654
read, you retarded nigger. it's right there. the following sentence begins with
>However,
that runs completely opposite to what you are trying to claim.
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>>533748627
>Media outlet Nexta quoted Zelensky as saying: "We realized that Ukraine will not become a member of NATO. We understand this, we are adequate people."
>"Kyiv needs new formats of interaction with the West and separate security guarantees."
Did you read this part? Holy shit this entire general is literally full of fucking retards.
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If a 4 year old news article is the best you can do, you should really just quit and join the cube.
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>>533748744
Yeah I read that part, and yeah it is a bid to appease moscow, like three different people told you so far.
Did you experienced delayed learning while growing up? Do you have trouble keeping eye contact with people?
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>>533748742
However what? Tell us then anon. The article literally says Ukraine will not join NATO and will look for a different security arrangement and relationship with the west, one that does not involve NATO. So back to the original point, why is Zelensky accepting Russian terms right now again? Right because Ukraine's counteroffensive occurred only after a Russian withdrawal began in exchange.
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>>533748511
>lorem ipsum dolor ahmad..
>However, Russian President Vladimir Putin's other demands include the so-called "denazification" and "demilitarization" of Ukraine.
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>>533748654
Boris didn't tell zelensky to fight. He offered himself and was then cloned in the biolabs.
Now a Boris drives every tank, controls every drone and shoots every gun.
The cloning of Boris Johnson was the greatest thing we got from this whole shitty mess.
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>>533748816
>4 years old
Holy shit a 4 year old article about an event that happened 4 years ago? Holy shit stop the fucking presses.
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That retarded shill can't be this dumb lmaoo
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>>533748857
see >>533745968
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>>533749281
nah nigger, you took enough of my attention. Read a book or catch a drone, idc
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>>533749043
Sure, here's some old recordings of your uncle pypa saying stuff that didn't turn out true. Just because Zele said no NATO in 2022 in an attempt to appease muscovy, doesn't mean it off the table forever. Especially since pidors disregarded the offer.
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>>533749043
That award looks great on you
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>>533749093
he's absolutely a shill. notice how he sticks exactly to the current metodichka that there was only the single demand of ukraine not joining NATO and all of the denazification/demilitarization demands never happened. those fell right into the ol' memoryhole because russia isn't demanding them anymore. they walked it back to the donbas and so, like a good prole at the ministry of truth, he has to pretend that those were the only demands monke made all along.
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>>533748683
There is still nothing in that article saying Zelensky would insist upon having something like a 600,000 man NATO trained army or that Russia refused anything. In fact, it really says the opposite; Zelensky will be looking for a "new manner of interfacing with the west" and a new security arrangement for Ukraine. Which obviously would mean neutrality.
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>>533749795
What does it matter? Russia lost the flight, soon they can go fight each other instead and we can all put this little unpleasantness behind us.
(After we kill any leftover)
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>>533749795
>a "new manner of interfacing with the west"
And to be even more clear, he explicitly said that meant not being in NATO. Before I get some semantics tier Jewish bullshit response.
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>>533748936
>Right because Ukraine's counteroffensive occurred only after a Russian withdrawal began in exchange.

and you believe that the Ukrainian counteroffensive was successful was because of the Russian withdrawal
...IN EXCHANGE.
Okay, then go search for any news sources you can find about those "agreed" terms that Zelensky accepted that made the Russian withdrawal their troops.

Oh and at /k/ do any of us in /uhg/ remember those TEMPO TEMPO TEMPO memes?
Yeah, you know why Russia started the withdrawal, it's because they were to spread out and thought that they can still take Kyiv
But after all those loses from the counter offensive, the Russians started to change tactics and start to entrench them self and defending key strategic locations from being overrun by the Ukrainian counter offensive.
also hahahah, the Vrooooom-jak is from September 2022.
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holy fuck I hate "american" ziggers, they are the most braindead contrarian retards on this shithole site.
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>>533749795
>Which obviously would mean neutrality.
Why are you hellbent on making a complete fool out of yourself?
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>>533749344
>Zele said no NATO in 2022
which was stating the obvious as anyone who has read the NATO Charter knows that Ukraine wasn't eligible to join. at least until this whole donbas and crimea business it sorted out.
russia knows this fully because that's why they break off bits of countries that wish to leave their sphere. transdniestria, abkhazia, south ossetia, crimea, etc.
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>>533749898
he's a silly gaslight dealer and got high on his own merchandise
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russcunt funeral slops are peak funny
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>>533750563
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>>533750563
DLSS6 looking promising
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>>533749898
Dude, there is nothing Americans hate more than Ukraine. Not after the way they disrespected our President. Not after they took our tax dollars while we were struggling. Not after they tried to help cover up pedo Hunter Biden's crimes. Give Ukraine to the dogs for all I care.
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>>533740362
lmao, SLABA JEWKRAINIA. Remember when they were fighting with shovels and still kept advancing too? Hohols and gaytoe must really suck dick
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TZD
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dammit, seems like only grok do animation and they don't do it for free

But anyway, have an angel Prigo
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>>533751003
oh fuck yeah
someone slop this one too
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90 billion euros of TZD
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>>533751128
90 Billion of TZD and priceless seethe.
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>>533750931
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>>533751128
>>533751164
>>533751331
>90 billion more laundered by kikes
LMAO, you fuckin faggots deserve to get glassed
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>>533751128
How many billions of euros has Ukraine gotten already? And what did it accomplish besides hundreds of thousands of dead Europeans?
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>>533751443
Uh-huh
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>>533751493
More than a million of dead ruspidors is a decent achievement. Hoping for another million in a few months
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>>533751066

Saint Prigo, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name.
Thy mansion come, thy will be done,
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>zignadian having a melty
Total Zigger Death is Canada's official foreign policy.
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>>533751557
Awesome.. Saved.
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kill all ziggers and zigger shills



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