>>533761107
inb4
>the afterlife doesn't exist christcuck!

soulless bot wannabes aren't allowed in this thread

There is no hell in the bible , it's a Greek idea

>>533761462
which version of the bible? scofield? the idea of eternal misery and contempt (the state of being in hell) is mentioned in the torah (old testament)

Dan 12:1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.
Dan 12:2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.
Dan 12:3 And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever.

>>533761530
>And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth

>>533761107
Yes that’s why they’re obsessed with living a long time.

>>533761530
the bible has 3 different afterlifes

which one is correct

>>533761530
>many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake
many not all?
>shame and contempt
is not hell or eternal torture either

>>533761462
>There is no hell in the bible
'Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels' Matthew 25:41

Pretty clear there is a hell full of fire and demons which sinners are sent to. inb4 'gehennas is also mentioned and its just a trash dump!' irrelevant.

>>533762236
>Matthew 25:41
That's your Greek book , not the my bible

Book of Life and book of death.

>>533761107
>why aren't most christians outraged
i pray for them and their repentance every day, but ultimately their choices are theirs to make

>>533762236
the idea of hell only emerged in the new testament

old testament was always nonexistence after death

that's why the OT god kept making a point of blessing you or punishing you during your life

then somehow does a 180 in the NT where evil people will be blessed and only punished at death

>>533761462
Hades exists, Abrahams bosom is part of Hades.
Christ went there after He died then came back to Earth via resurrection.

>>533762387
>Christ went there after He died
Chapter and verse?

>>533762387
Again I don't believe in your Greek book

>>533762344
It existed it just wasn't a place of torment. And the NT doesn't change or undo the OT. Even Christ Himself said not a jot of the law is changed. Christ is the God of the OT therefore knows the law and fulfilled it better than anyone but He didn't erase it.

>>533761107
>Go to heaven
Surrounded by chriggers
>Go to hell
Surrounded by kikes and women

How do you win? Do you need to be a downie or a dog and get sent to limbo, is that the meta?

We need to start burning people in this life too!

>>533762607
you don't know your bible

OT says nonexistence
Jesus says you become a spirit and go to heaven or hell
Paul/Revelations say you all stay dead until the second coming and get resurrected to live in the new earth or lake of fire

>NT doesn't change
you literally repealed the laws like sabbath lol. stop joking.

>uhh changing means.. fulfilling!
lol

>>533761462
Then there is no god, meaning you faggot kikes aren't "chosen" by anyone and the hatred for you has been justified since the Romans.

Now kill yourself.

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you heard the experts, hell and the afterlife don't exist, guys. (kill yourself already)

>>533762729
>christians will kill themselves and commit murder if jewish fairytales didn't exist

lol typical christcuck

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>>533762910
no they won't because they believe in hell, reprobate.

pic related, you in the life to come (according to the Christians)

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>>533762627
Different races won't exist every one will resemble Adam and Eve, Gods perfect creation in the beginning. The women who are in heaven won't be feminist cunts.

>>533762959
It’s retarded though, for the idea of eternal punishment to work you also need eternal ego/soul to receive the punishment. With that being the case, you’d just adapt to the suffering of hell until it became normal or even enjoyable at certain point. And the same logic applies to their idea of heaven, they’d grow to hate it for the same reason.

>>533762680
Before the resurrection people didn't go to heaven or hell like they do now.

Yes we are supposed to keep the Sabbath still.

Jesus says fulfill not abolish. Read Matthew.

>>533762711
Why the idea of the Jews being chosen by the Jewish god so annoying to you

>>533763157
it's not reality's fault that some people don't like idea of being a good or righteous person which is the term for getting into the eternal bliss in Heaven

God: be a good person so you can have eternal rest
jew: i don't wanna, i'll just argue and pilpul about my soullessness because being a soulless animal is preferable than being a good person

>>533763355
>be a good person
Doable without "God"

>>533763355
This has nothing to do with my post though.

>>533763436
being faithful is a good virtue. we're saved by faith. hell will be full of faithless people or the unfaithful because we're saved by faith.

>>533763457
not having preference for eternal things such as the eternal self/soul is ungodly

>>533763265
Before Christ became the sacrifice for all time, people went to the other side of the gulf in heaven (Luke 16 and 2 Esdras 7:77-end). That's why Christ descended into "hell" the other side of the gulf to preach to the souls that never heard the Word. Why? Because YHVH is fair.
>>533763333
Jews were never God's chosen, rather Israel - the nation. Modern kikes are satan's via cain's children. Now, those who accept Jesus Christ "Christians" are the true God's chosen people. Jewry openly deny Christ. Wanna guess what happens to those who reject Jesus Christ?

>>533763475
>being faithful is a good virtue
No thanks. It's not needed for me.

>>533763508
Still don’t know the fuck you’re talking about. According to christian mythos you display a “preference for eternity” whether you go to heaven or hell, since both places are experienced eternally.

My point which christians never address, is about the futility of eternal anything, be it bliss or suffering. Both turn into each other at cyclical intervals, so the idea of “eternal suffering/bliss” is just a self serving cop out.

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>>533763560
the lake of fire will be full of unbelievers/faithless people like you according to the bible

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>>533763634
>according to the bible

>>533761107
I used to hate Jews
Then I was hating on Judaism as an ideology
Now I just hate their god Yahweh for taking me from the pleroma and putting me in this gay ass clown world. I just feel sorry for his chosen people.

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>>533763624
>My point which christians never address, is about the futility of eternal anything, be it bliss or suffering
you know what's truly futile? not having an eternal purpose, or finding your purpose in death or in you dying which is the guaranteed 'reality' in this world. Christians love the idea of eternal anything because it gives them purpose beyond death or an eternal purpose.

>>533763557
Yeah that's what I was saying He went and preached to the spirit world which isn't what Hell is today. Peter 3:19

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>>533763670
correct. the book that you claim to not believe in yet claim to be an expert of.

>>533763809
>the book that you claim to not believe in yet
The bible is right about somethings
>yet claim to be an expert of
When did I claim that?

>>533763681
You have to understand though that their Yahweh isn't Jesus. They replaced Him with someone else.
Jesus claimed to be Yahweh/Jehovah. But Judaism doesn't teach that.

>>533763745
Still not addressing my point. You’re free to fabricate a purpose in life by believing you’re doing the paperwork for some sort of post-death spiritual bureaucracy. Dividing the post death experience in “eternal suffering” or “eternal bliss” is completely retarded though. I’ve explained why and i wanna hear christians talk about it.

>>533763850
>The bible is right about somethings
the bible is right about all things not just about the things that your ego agrees with (according to the Christians)

>>533763873
not everyone is content with the temporary and futile purpose found this life like you are, have some perspective, anon

>>533763904
>the bible is right about all things not just about the things that your ego agrees with
Says your ego lol

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>>533763949
Holy shit, are you slow or are you avoiding my argument on purpose?

>>533763966
the bible says it is and i agree with it because i believe in it. i just don't pick and choose which parts of the bible i agree with because they validate the retarded and worthless things in my life.

>>533763992
how you define your life's purpose is unsatisfying according to Christians that's why they love idea of eternal things and eternal purpose. do you know the concept of different people having different preferences?

>>533764041
>the bible says it is
Says it is what?

>>533764041
>I just don't pick and choose which parts of the bible i agree with
You do. You've already stated you agree with all of it, which only happens through subjective interpretation. Meaning you interpret the bible to agree to you.

>>533764133
It’s not about preferences, i’m making the point that nothing is eternal and suffering eventually becomes bliss when experienced by the same ego for long enough. This destroys the idea of “eternal punishment” that christians love so much.

>>533764133
>how you define your life's purpose is unsatisfying according to Christians
Troons say the same thing with different words. You and them are 2 sides of the same coin.

>>533764191
you don't even believe in the bible. you're delusional to think that anyone would take your subjective opinions about it seriously.

>>533761128
Well i'm gonna comment that anyway
Just because you say something doesn't make it real.
World doesn't work that way christcuck
But the best you could do in this reality is to make jewish existence as miserable as possible and/or end it.
Actions over wishful thinking, that is the morale here.

>>533764225
you mean that the consciousness will eventually get used to the experience through time? you don't know that lol

>>533764246
>you don't even believe in the bible
Believe the bible about? Your statements don't make sense.
>you're delusional to think that anyone would take your subjective opinions about it seriously.
And you expect people to take yours seriously?

>>533764310
Just like you don't know what eternal actual is or means.

>>533764230
you think being a christian is burdensome that's why you're you while Christians find it to be satisfying and fulfilling. apples and oranges.

>>533764337
>Just like you don't know what eternal actual is or means.
yes i do. the bible which i believe in is very clear about it.

>>533763854
Jesus openly said Yahweh is evil. He was from the Pleroma, that’s what “son of god” meant. God is the Monad.

>>533764342
>you think being a christian is burdensome
It's unnecessary for me. Cool if it works for you.
>>533764371
>>Just like you don't know what eternal actual is or means.
>yes i do
No you don't. That's your ego talking.

>>533764310
Yes, i know it. It’s how human experience works, you’ve experienced it yourself. The ego adapts and finds comfort in any situation when exposed to it for long enough, it doesn’t matter how sadistic the situation is, it will transform you and you will learn to accept it and find peace in it. And the same goes for bliss, you will learn to grow tired of it and despise it.

>>533764423
>Christians live the christian life against their will
says the reprobate

>>533764446
Try less strawman next time.

>>533761107
If the Christian God were real, then the moral response would be to resist and rebel against such a flagrantly evil being.

>>533763265
again that is a retcon

OT is clear it is nonexistence. Psalms and David say as much

Then you created hell in the NT as your spiritual blackmail for the goyim

>>533764434
the idea contradicts the bible that's why i don't believe in it

Rev 14:9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,
Rev 14:10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:
Rev 14:11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.
Rev 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

>>533764388
Can't be the case since Jesus is Yahweh/Jehovah the God of the OT

>>533764494
It’s not an idea, it’s an integral dynamic of our experience. If the Bible contradicts it, the Bible is wrong.

Imagine how insane that would be.
God, from no need at all. No problems.
Chooses to force conscious beings into a nightmare body horror world, and then on top of that not even give them a rest afterwards but still threatens even their afterlife.

What a bonkers scenario that would be.

It's cartoon levels of Evil.

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>>533764574
Yup

>>533764548
i believe only the fleshly part of our being experience 'numbness', not our eternal self or our soul.

>>533764489
>Non-existence
Not possible since our souls don't cease to exist after death. In the OT days when people died they went somewhere obviously even if unconscious that's still something.

>>533764652
It’s not dissociation or numbness i’m talking about, it’s integration. The soul should carry our cognition thus we will integrate suffering/bliss and grow into it. You mainstream christians should study the esoteric body of your own religion, after all the Bible is a work of eastern esotericism.

The idea of eternal suffering or bliss is only sold to exoteric cattle for control purposes. It has no logic behind it, christianity’s esoteric principles deny it. It’s ok if you wanna stay in the semitic pen, but at least stop drinking from the puddles and go to the clean water.

>>533764969
you mean like the eternal consciousness eventually adapting to the environment or dying to the 'feeling' so it can feel leisure and comfort? only God has the power to do that for the soul or for creation, not the soul itself or the individual creation while separated from God.

>>533763557
Well, of course most Jews rejected the trinity , the whole shtick of our Bible is that God is one and not 3 or 10 or whatever

>>533761107
The ones that celebrated the genocide of the past 3 years and tanked the world economy this year deserve it