But somehow one is an evil feudal mediveal kingdom run by a fat retard with nukes and the other is a heckin wholesome western democracy run by angels
They are letting Ukraine off the hook because they still hope it will take back the stuff from Russia.If Ukraine fails, Zelensky will be thrown under the bus and called the Hitler of our times.
>>533765544Hohols' pathetic struggle against the Russian empire has been really entertaining to watch so I at least respect them for entertaining me.
>>533765604Nah
why can't ukraine sign a peace with russia already?do they really give that much of a shit which corrupt slav shithole they have to pay taxes too?
>>533765544>the other is a heckin wholesome western democracy run by angelsSaying "russians are pidors and invaders should die, lets help the defenders" is not the same as calling them wholesome angels.Is your brain somewhat broken? Can you not tell the difference between those things?
>>533765707>Can you not tell the difference between those things?Come on, give the guy a break.He's just using the script he was given by his handlers so he can earn his roubles for the day
>>533765707that's not what happened back in 2022, the glazing was insufferablepoliticians clapping for saint zelensky and putting up this bizarre theatrenow everyone has his freakshow in the Oval Office imprinted in their minds
>>533765544>Ukraine>people are not allowed to leavethat's a blatant lie, pidor.
>>533765836why are you being a filthy jew on the internet? men in military age literally cannot leave legally, and are subject to meatcatchers vanning them at random
>>533765707same people should be in the same country, just like your country should be anchlussed again
>>533765544Trust me, you don't want ukrainian immigrants in your country. They are better off locked in their pen.
>>533765881even that military age part is bullshit now that it includes men from 18 to fucking 60 lmaoand OP is wrong in the sense that if you have tits you are allowed to leave and fuck every male in western europe (as they have been doing)
>>533765814>that's not what happened back in 2022You are right, back then there was still people falling for your Ruski Bullshit and calling them "pidors" or using Nazi terminology wasnt that widespreadly accepted.
>>533765902>These damn Nazis should unify before we denazify themmindbroken
>>533765910better than russian or arabs, much more humble and better behaved.
>>533766006>that if you have tits you are allowed to leave and fuck every male in western europe (as they have been doingyup, and today Ukraine has South Korea tier birth rateswhile the men rot in a trench, hoholinas get to taste every flavor of white, brown and black dick in European multikulti capitalswhat a genius policy. I can sense the juice having an axe to grind with Slavic Ukrainians too, as well as with the Russians
>>533766153>as well as with the RussiansWhy, how were Russian Birthrates before the war?
>>533766082See? This one escaped and is shitting up the thread. Does anyone really want to have more of these roam free?
>>533765707HAAHAHHAHAHAH DIE
>>533766195on par with Western Europe and much better than Ukrainethe big dip was in the late 90s when Russian economy was in the toilet. for reasons including the juice plundering the recently liberalized economy. and yes it crashed Russian birthrates
>>533766243It's a fair exchange for not having to see any Russians around currently.
LMAO
eglin nigger ai bots be like
>>533766082I forgot how much your country sucks Jew dick, maybe we should let more niggers into it.
eglin niggerrr ai bots be like:: ops im not even a real person
>>533766329Your choice, you've been warned
>>533766396Vasya Bot 2.0 as malfunction. Here's a pic to remind it, Ukrainian women are made for Nigger cock.
>>533766329Shut up before we send more niggers to your land.
>>533765604ziggers are so fucking delusional its unreal.
The ukraine government just put out a statement demanding people stop calling the men who escaped conscription the "real heros of ukraine".You cant make this shit up
>>533765544>peopleUkraine only forbids men from leaving, and nobody gives a fuck about them. North Korea is evil because they also don't allow women to leave.
>>533766454>ziggers are so fucking delusional its un-ACK
>>533766243>See? This one escaped and is shitting up the thread.Its just my experience. Instead of accusing me of something you should think about what kind of people I am talking about. The arabs and russians are usually quite rich and come here as tourists. i have met a hohol refugee family (yes, the male fled conscription) and a hohol veteran with 1 hand on some sort of hospital holiday (they do these in germany too).Is any nuanced discussion possible with you?
>>533766037Don't be salty, he's right. People were going beyond just saying they have a right to defend their land, by trying to push 'they're a heckin wholesome democracy just like us!', when anyone who has paid attention to Ukraine for at least 20 years knows they weren't (their levels of corruption often earned them the title of 'little Russia', because there was virtually no difference between either of them, except for the massive child trafficking problem Ukraine had that their authorities refused to address until Russia put extra pressure on them when it started spilling more into their nation.
>>533765836No it's literally true retardIf you are a man you are not allowed to leave Ukraine, end of storyIf you're a Russian man you can go to any country that allows russian passports like SEA countries, Serbia, Belarus, Georgia, gulf states,...If the Ukraine state is worth defending why are they forcing unwilling citizens to die for it?
>>533766454
>>533766695>'they're a heckin wholesome democracy just like us!I mean you literally quote some reddit tier shit and then call it retarded. I am not sure what your point is. Germany sent 8000 helmets in the weeks after the start of the SMO. The thought that German Tanks would once again Kill Russians was politically EXTREMELY debated. Ruskis really have no clue how big they fucked up, especially regarding the german public opinion. but hey just keep quoting reddit or sth
>>533766751>Using tanks in 2026Did you learn nothing from your masters in Israel? Tanks don't work anymore, specially when you got drones.
>>533766825>completely pivots and misses the point entirelyI accept your concession and I am currently not interested in starting a new discussion with you.
>>533766751Lol ok, nigger. If you pretend that narrative was never pushed and that zelensky wasn't paraded around the entirety of the West by everyone's governments preaching democracy and how Russia is threatening it with their invasion, then you can remain right.
>>533765544Germany is also thinking about restrictions for men leaving the country. And so did canada.As soon as countries try to prevent you from leaving, you know you are slave class (government forces you to stay for their benefit against your will).
>>533766688russia is losing to that? sad. pathetic.
>>533766872That's nice here's your future in Paris, Vasya.
kill all ziggers and zigger shills, hang the wumao, execute pedos.
>>533765544>The only two countries in the world where people are not allowed to leave>the other is a heckin wholesome western democracy run by angelGet a new bit, zigger. Everyone who wanted to leave was a allowed to. The ones who remained are the noble souls willing to lay down their lives to fight putler's tyranny.
>>533766694>Its just my experience.Keywords here
>>533766964let me guessthe women and the syrian refugees are exempt from that?
>>533766883>Russia is threatening it with their invasionAnon, I cannot help to notice you seem to have scrambled the timeline a bit. The threat of the invasion has become reality by the time Zelensky asked governments for money and weapons. It makes you seem a bit unreliable to confuse years with each other. >>533766989>your futureAm I the nigger or the hoholina, I am confused. I thought I would never be a woman.
>>533767101>>533767072>>533766977How noble is this?
>>533767110>This one escaped and is shitting up the thread. This, however, is not just your experience, but an established fact, correct?
>>533766694>The arabs and russians are usually quite rich and come here as touristsAll the ukranian """refugees""" in southern europe are filthy richEvery ukranian license plate you see in southern europe is a high end vehicle driven by a blonde bimbo
>>533767142nothing is as noble as this.
Making Manchuria a neutral region between Japan, China, and Russia, or a region leaning towards Japan, improves the balance of power in East Asia and bring peace.After the WW2, North Korea became a tragic region due to the loss of Manchuria. Poor Koreans.
>>533766717>If you're a Russian man you can go to any country that allows russian passports like SEA countries, Serbia, Belarus, Georgia, gulf states,...zigger sisters...
>>533767138You aren't white and that what matters, die.
>>533767159>established factApparently not
>>533767197Africa you say?
Russians cant leave gulaghomo or even go online
>>533767223I do agree with you on ukrainians being absolute garbage dogshit subhumans, they are afterall, identical to russianseven the language is literally the same
>>533767215>nationalsecurityjournalanon, russians today as we speak are travelling between all the countries I mentionedBelarus especially to evade sanctions in tech and financeno need to cope with literal fake news
>>533767199Wtf? Japan doesn't even border Manchuria
Complete and utter bullshit. OP is the draft dodging pidor hiding in Portugal. Men aren't allowed to leave russia. And there are many smaller dictatorships in the world where it's the same. Ask OP why he's not returning to russia and watch him squirm.
Just dropping in to share some more Russian swear words with you guys you can use:Eblan - dumbassDolbaeb - dumbfuckHuesos - cocksuckerPidoras - fancy version of "pidor" (faggot)Huilo - dickfaceUebische - ugly scumPizdabol - fucking liarPizduk - little fuckMudak - bad and very stupid personBlyad - looks like "blyat", but is a noun meaning "whore"
>>533767215>Pro-Trump wesbiteHow much Jew dick you suck daily, vasya?
>>533767138>completely pivots and deliberately misses the point entirely.Here, since you're seemingly intimately familiar with this.
>>533767218>Yes, you are the nigger and you will live in Paris and Date Hoholinas, take thatOkay then>>533767223>I said Ukrainians behave better than Russians>YOU ARE A LYING HOHOL HIDING IN AUSTRIA>Nah I was jk I was upset you insulted RussiaThank you.
>>533767267The ones who left in 2022? Sure, they are.The ones still stuck can't even go online without VPNs that they lose every day, let alone leave the country.
>>533767286use where? when I see an ukrainian immigrant outside? I just call them "untermensch" or "subhuman", they have no response to that
>>533767286Add "debil", its the same word in german so easy to remember for german speakers.
>>533767215Fake news faggotYes if you avoided conscription you cant get a passport but its not "all fighting age men".Why bother lying?
>>533767285easyI'm not russianI hate to tell you this but no one in southern europe really gives that much of a shit about this war, some are even telling NATO hawks to fuck off
>>533767301>Nah I was jk I was upset you insulted RussiaFair thing to get upset about
>>533767318why would you use slavic words in germany? Use your own fucking language, fucking cuck, do you also call muslims habibi?
>>533767297Would you accept quantifiable metrics regarding Corruption in Ukraine as evidence they worked on their Issues?
>>533767310I just saw a bunch of people here typing "pidor" and decided to maybe help them expand their dictionary>>533767318Yeah, it's good, but it doesn't pack the same punch as the ones I listed imo, so I didn't
>>533767336Why?
>>533767248Imagine how many Ukrainian women are single now.
>>533767366Cause I live here
>>533767246just call them niggers
>>533767301No you will die by the hands of a white man and it will be video taped, The white man will be an American who hates niggers like you.
>>533767347>habibi?No, I call them habepti, because thats the female version. Arab women fuck like pornstars its crazy. One threw a plate at me too. Funny as shit."Debil" is common german word. Its often used together with "grenz-", which means "bordering". "Grenzdebil".
>>533767372they are literally everywhere in european nightclubs while their men are getting fpv drone murdered lmao
>>533767420No kidding.
>>533767385You live on Earth too. Would you be upset if someone insulted Earth? Probably not, right? So its about identification with Russia. You identify with it, a verbal attack on the nation is an attack on you?
>>533767412Doesn't it just come from Latin, "debilitate" or something?
>>533767399>So, am I the nigger?>No, you are the nigger>Also here is my violent fantasies.Interesting, anon. Tell me more.
>>533767450>Would you be upset if someone insulted Earth?Yeah, its my home. Especially if its some aliens.
>>533767459Yeah I think so. Languages in Europe are super interesting. The random words one understands when one thinks a bit. Like My language shares words with Norwegian, but also Russian and English? kek. And then come all the loanwords, too.
>>533767497Are you meming right now, I legit cannot tell.
>>533766964Yeah, none of us are obviously immune to this when shit gets real
>>533767277The way to make the Korean Peninsula a peaceful and democratic region is to unite Japan, the Korean Peninsula, and Manchuria into a single economic zone. That's what I wanted to say.
>>533766243No. I'm sorry for doubting you, Ivan. Where's that meme of the dam where the water is hohols, the dam is Russia, and the village is Europe?
>>533767602have a backup planthe ukranians that fled when the war started are alive and well
>>533767330>Yes if you avoided conscription you cant get a passport but its not "all fighting age men">yeah if you let the voenkomat take you by force then you can leave the country (to ukraine)This is the logic ziggers under VPN are arguing with.
>>533766432
>>533765544There are people living in airports with no citizenship. Suppose to be internationally illegal to make a citizen stateless, but it happens. I don't even understand how they would be taken to the hospital.
>>533767703There are russian males going to cyprus as we speakthere are 0 ukranian males going to cyprus as none are allowed to leave the country
>>533767663but anon, he already admitted to not thinking I am a hohol anymore. thats not nice.
>>533765707>Can you not tell the difference between those things?He can but he desperately tries to make a "both are the same" argument
>>533767531Not really. And even f I am, how does it matter, we are going off the rails here for the whole sake of the detour. When you insult a country and people living in it most residents will not be too fond of it, I am not sure why exactly I have to explain this.>>533767631I do not hink any of those people want to be wih you and it did not work out for you historically. East Asia is much more peaceful now than when you owned all those regions.>>533767663The dam used to be European immigration laws. It was never Russia holding them back, but rather EU's own disinterest in having them. I am sure some of them are hardworking people and can fit in, bu their mentality is very different from Europe. Which is only amplified by the victim complex.
>>533767703I dont even understand what you are saying faggot. The vast majority of men have done thier 1 year of conscription and leave whenever they want.WTF is wrong with your troon brain?The article is fakeCope and seethe
>>533767350Sure, but would disprove what this >>533765814 anon said about the circus seal clapping and monkey theatre parade glazing over Zelensky, which is what prompted this exchange in the first place?
>>533767685The ukrainian people consider the men who escaped the country the real heros of ukraineIts like one big clown prison>https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-ato/4111105-kyrylo-budanov-head-of-the-presidential-office-lieutenant-general.htmlBudanov:– Unity begins with the individual citizen and extends all the way to the Verkhovna Rada, the Office of the President, the President, ministries, the Cabinet—everything must function in harmony. If we continue to live in a situation where, simultaneously, a hero is both a soldier defending the country and someone evading mobilization, we will not get far.T.K.: Based on your experience, what would you advise? How can a society facing this kind of split—where “heroes” include both those fighting and those fleeing across the Tysa River—find unity?– It’s actually quite simple: we need to grow up. Take a step back and look at the situation objectively. What happens if everyone chooses to evade service? Will Ukraine remain on the political map of the world? No—it will not.There should be no illusions about this. The country would cease to exist—even the name would disappear. And there would be no one left to live here. Many people think it will somehow work itself out—that others will step in and fix things. That is not the case. It will not work out. Everything will be taken.Tetiana Kohutych, Ukrinform
>>533767862>When you insult a country and people living in it most residents will not be too fond of itMost? How many do you think would care? Do you think this rate differs between countries?>I am not sure why exactly I have to explain this.Because its utterly laughable, anon. The thought that the russian federation requires you to defend its honor online is laughable. You identify with a big fish because there is probably not much else to identify as.
>>533767987>It’s actually quite simple: we need to grow up. Take a step back and look at the situation objectively. What happens if everyone chooses to evade service? Will Ukraine remain on the political map of the world? No—it will not.these fucking people are fucking disgusting, people's lives are worth more than what the fucking name of your wheat field is called on a map or which rich oligarch pedophile you pay taxes tooI smile when I see draft officers get murdered
>>533767930>Sure,They are readily available to you.>circus seal clapping and monkey theatre parade glazing over ZelenskyI dont really care for these emotional attributes. I am not sure why your reality is dictated by media that is intended for low IQ people.
>>533768084Country is not just the political system or its leader. Otherwise it would be fair to say that Ukrainians are fighting for Zelensky right now and their patriotism is just his personal cult.
>>533768084Who do you think you're swaying by making pedantic reddit-tier arguments about nationalism on /pol/?
>>533768160You cared enough to seethe at that anon for just stating that it happened, though.
>>533767864>The vast majority of men have done thier 1 year of conscriptionYeah right. Which is why putler is tightening border regulations in his country. Which is why they try to drag students out of universitites into the army.You have to be lucky to "complete your 1 year f conscription" (a savage subhuman practice in and of itself, but of course a zigger lke you would love that)Most conscripts are forced to sign a contract either through manipulation, beatings or sometimes even fraudulent signatures that they didn't make.
Notice how nobody is asking Russians to go back to Russia and fight in Ukraine, this is because Russia is a multicultural country and has many job openings for Indians and Africans unlike Ukraine.
>>533768175>Ukrainians are fighting for Zelensky right now and their patriotism is just his personal cult.Some probably are or were. How many would be required for it to be a precise statement?
>>533768364>a savage subhuman practiceyes conscription is slaveryit's also slavery when ukranian thugs drag you into a van to be a slave in the front lines while your mother screams and begs them to stop right?
>>533768291>'they're a heckin wholesome democracy just like us!I mean, quote reddit, get laughed at, what else is there to say.>>533768284>reddit-tier argumentsPhilosophical debate about "What is nationalism" is reddit tier? Maybe I should check it out sometimes. What is it? Identification with ones Race? With ones Nations? With ones community? Why would I not get upset if some Ruski says Austrians are Rude, but he gets upset if I say Russians are Rude?
>>533768395I remember pre war ukraine when it was the multicultural capital of yuropBest anti cop protests
>>533765544Jewlenskiy ain’t that fat
>>533767685Always have a bug out plan pre mapped and routed in your mind of where you're going. The first 72hrs are critical because you have a very narrow window to gtfo. I'm not getting fucking fpv droned
>>533767438>ziggers constantly post videos of Ukrainian clubs online>everytime it's exclusively fit young white people without a single obese roastie/non white in sight>this is supposed to get normie whites to hate ukrainenewsflash pedro, normal whites don't hate young white people still enjoying life rather than hiding in the basement 24/7 due to constant russian attacks, it's impressive if anythingziggers are no different than communist covid cultists whom would post videos of young white people still enjoying life during covid in a attempt to shame themspiteful mutants
>>533765544You missed putting Russia inbetween there Ivan.
>>533765910I had a Ukrainian handy man from Kiev. Really good hardworking guy who said "if I could personally kill every single zapodnik (west Ukrainian) I would." I believe him
>>533768401>Some probably are or were.Are you implying he is their God or something and that people fight for him personally? Not even MAGA have gone that far.
>>533768426>it's also slavery when ukranian thugs drag you into a van to be a slave in the front lines while your mother screams and begs them to stop right?Sure. But ukrainians literally didn't ask or vote for this. They got invaded by a deranged communist subhuman and his army of mongrels. They've been dealt a shit hand.Russhits on the other hand support putler at every opportunity. Putler is actually salivating at the idea of vanning his own slaves to fuel his own meatgrinder, but he knows he is even less popular than Zelenskike. So for now, he only throws in the mobiks and conscripts (since russhits are slaves they are happy to see their 18 year old sons die in this war)
>>533768480>I-I mean, q-quote redditAnd what you seethed at him about still happened, no matter how much you want to claim it didn't.
>>533765544Only a subhuman wouldn't understand the difference. The whole aspect of you comparing 3rdshitters to white ppl is laughable.
If russia was winning, this thread wouldn't be necessary
>>533768669So you agree that Ukranians that don't want to fight shouldn't be forced to do it correct? Like you said they didn't ask for itUkranians that want to fight should go ahead but normal citizens should be left alone, slavery is wrong
>>533768689yeah, impossible to compare honorary aryans like north koreans, with slavic untermenschen who cant even defeat the dilapidated russian army, these guys use shovels and horses and subhuman ukrainian gypsies still lose. pathetic. koreans would never, they are actually based and white.
>>533768644I am sure some Ukrainians are good people, may even. But no country would want an influx of millions of people with entirely different way of thinking. Accepting some is alright, but when you bring in a few millions all at once, its going to create problems.
>>533768653>Are you implying he is their God or something and that people fight for him personally?For some? Perhaps. I dont think many do. A few %, if not per mille. What are their enemies fighting for?
>>533768684>And what you seethed at him about still happened,So you agree with reddit quotes but call other debaters redditors?
>>533768795Ironic, that this is exactly what Russian TV says.
>>533768739I do. But your whataboutism in regards to Ukraine is very dishonest and suspicious. This is an existential war for Ukrainians. It has clear-cut objective: don't let russhit occupants destroy their country any more than they already have.The russhits, on the other hand, what are they being forced to fight for? Not even putler himself can answer that.
>>533768689>wouldn't understand the differenceWell, are you gonna tell us?
>>533768669Ukraine has been launching offensives since 2015 to try and take Crimea back. Zelensky promised to stop doing this. Then he activated 600,000 reservists 8n April of 2021 and sent them to the Russian border.So technically they didnt vote for war I guess. But they voted for a lying jew so people should take note.
>>533768831Conscription is wrong on both sides, my whataboutism comes from the fact that people make excuses for Ukraine about how it's not slavery when they do itUkranians that are being conscripted against their will don't think the war is existential since they clearly value their own lives more than they value the stateAnd yes conscription is wrong when both sides do it
>>533768829>Ironic, that this is exactly what Russian TV says.Really? Russian state TV says there is a few % of Ukrainians fighting for Zelensky personally?Did they also say what the rest of them (99%+) are fighting for?
>>533768917ukrainians are fighting for homosexuality, trans rights, and unlimited bbc immigration for their women and also for their women to leave ukraine to get bbc in germany and the us
>>533768480appreciate the fact that you responded to an accusation of being reddit with a sarcastic reddit reply
>>533768985>sarcastic reddit replyWhat is it? Identification with ones Race? With ones Nations? With ones community? Why would I not get upset if some Ruski says Austrians are Rude, but he gets upset if I say Russians are Rude?Can you answer a single question, anon? Are you interested in philosophical debate about "What is Nationalism" ?
>>533768983>to leave ukraine to get bbc in germany and the usyou forgot Paris
>>533769063the greatest austrian in history was not an austrian nationalist but a german nationalistsit down while real nations speak, jew
>>533769097So I take it you lean towards ethnic nationalism. At least, thats what I am getting from your post ignoring the insults. Interesting. Ethnic nationalism is a big no-no in Russia and was an even bigger no-no in the Soviet Union. Did you know that?
>>533768817>I don't even have a clear point of arguement anymore, but I just cannot stop seething.Here's your last (you). Enjoy those shill shekels.
>>533769063Your goal here is to just make the russian you're debating look good I guess? I see no other reason why you would make so many posts being deliberately obtuse. Unless you're simply a bot that's being orchestrated by a retard - that could explain the style since they're partially trained on reddit posts.
>>533765544>a real nation with a history older than Japanvs>a soviet shithole filled with homosovieticusWhen a hohol tells you about borscht being a Ukrainian dish, remind them it's a soviet dish invented by starving peasants for starving peasants.
>>533769245>>I don't even have a clear point of arguement anymoreAnd what exactly is your "arguement"?>Reality is not like hecking wholesome reddit democracy nonsenseCorrect. Whats confusing you?
>>533769316I accept your concession and note your inability or unwillingness to discuss the philsophical background of "nationalism". >deliberately obtuseWhy do you refuse to answer my very basic, explorative questions? What is nationalism, anon?
>>533769316>Your goal here is to just make the russian you're debating look good I guess? IVery fascinating technique, btw. To attempt to worm yourself out of a discussion by saying I am currently losing another one in your opinion. Just very classic avoidance.
>>533769444>>533769489>>533769538>seriously engage with this pointless spiraling tangent, it's very importantShit, maybe this is a bot
>>533767631but the koreans will have it, just like they had the jomons by the bussy back then
>>533769754You are literally cognitively incapable of debating>What is nationalism?You can call me a bot all you want, but you are incapable of having this discussion you are establishing that as a fact further with every post you make. Fascinating.
