I bought this setup for less than anyone is selling it used for on the marketplaces. WTF is going on with boomers asking so much for their old abused tools?
>>533786276>WTF is going on with boomers asking so much for their old abused tools?They know what they got.
>>533786330>No lowballers
>>533786276Those old abused tools will last a lot longer than that piece of shit pump.
>>533786392That’s bullshit. OP will use that pump maybe 3 times in his entire life
>>533786276because it's designed to last just beyond the return product window
>>533786466he is using it to power a piston dildo so more like 3 times a day
>>533786276You'll never get your bootstraps pulled up with that.
>>533786498There are no returns.
>>533786466I have one of those vacuum pumps. I bought it at Harbor freight like 15 years ago. Still works fine. And sure. I only use the thing like 10 or 15 times a year. But still... My cheapo set of Harbor Freight A/C gauges does have a couple broken plastic knobs though...
>>533786466That doesn’t really refute the point: older tools were better made, lasted longer, and were more expensive as a consequence. That little chinkshit pump will be lucky to last the three times OP uses it without seizing.
>im just not gonna do it>you know, im just not gonna buy your $150 service port adapter set>i know i know, its just that im not gonna do it is all>HAHAHAHHAHHAA
>>533786708you dont think its a good thing to have different qualities and prices of tools around? i quite like it because it means i can buy the cheap version of some tools i dont use much at all while spending seveal times more on tools that will get used lots more.
>>533786276did you buy a mini split or what?
>>533787020Apparently, having the choice of purchasing a product most suitable for your needs is communism.
>>533787020Yes and no. The problem is that everyone who makes tools is running a profit driven business, and cheap Chinese shit undercuts the profits of companies that make better tools. It’s a race to the bottom that eventually guts the higher quality manufacturers and drives them out of business. We see this in everything, not just tools.
>>533787310I want to install a DC compressor on my freezer and run it off solar.
>>533787356no. it's the fact that they are advertised as "quality" tools in the first place. at least be honest that your product is a piece of shit and is cheap as a result.and a quality tool likely costs 2x more to make but they'll have insane margins to make it 5x more when the real gap is no where near that.
>>533787443oh, just use the old ac compressor, ive vaced down 4 minisplits with this setup
>>533786708you still have the old mentality boomer. Now the American companies just slap their brand on the same chines factory made shit and over charge you.
>>533787527I thought about doing that but I needed the manifold gauges anyway. Driving anywhere to pickup cheap shit on the marketplace was going to add like $10-$15 so I couldn't beat free shipping.
>>533787527Did you purge those systems with nitrogen?
>>533787428>The problem is that everyone who makes tools is running a profit driven business,thats not a problem. it means that quality tool makers just need to keep their quality high so as to attract those who want the best. this is very much what has happened in a lot of cases. there will always be a market for those, and for the kind of warranty and long term service that comes with it.>>533787497>no. it's the fact that they are advertised as "quality" tools in the first place. at least be honest that your product is a piece of shit and is cheap as a result.this has always been teh case. everyone says there is best. there comes a point when its simply the buyers responsibility to think instead of wanting ever greater government regulation on advertising standards.
the 'chinkshit poor quality' doesnt even stand anymore, chinks have been producing legitimate, competent products for 15 years at this point paying sticker price for tools at this point is genuinely retarded (they make literally all the tools)
>>533787652And that’s the consequence of the race to the bottom I described. A well maintained pump made in the US in the 80s will outlast that cheap shit by a wide margin. You’re even more of a boomer with your “disposable everything” mentality.
>>533786276YELLOW PERIL FUCK CHYNA FUCK CHINKS AND FUCK OP YOU SLANTY EYED GOOK
>>533786276ya, it's unreal how good chinkshit is.
>>533787756i just ordered the blue hose from amazon for $14>>533787795no they come purged and sealed, you hear it hiss when the cap comes off. i just vac'd it down to -30 or whatever the instructions said
>>533787979Go read the bible.
>>533788096I'm wondering why I can't purge my system with clean dry compressed air.
>>533787945regardless, if American companies are selling cheap chink shit I'm just gonna go direct to the source for cheaper
>>533787497But the customer should be able to decide whether the product fits their needs. Obviously, if you're not retarded, you'd suspect that a €50 tool from Temu/Lidl private label/whatever would be worse than a fancy, name brand tool (which is likely also being enshittified anyways regardless of staying at the same price point or even raising prices). Unless we ban all misleading marketing, I don't really see the point of that argument.>and a quality tool likely costs 2x more to make but they'll have insane margins to make it 5x more when the real gap is no where near that.And quality brand tools are also being enshittified. Regardless if you're actually working with the tools you'll spend on getting something good, but let's not expect John Doe who'll use his screwdriver exactly twice a year to disassemble some furniture to invest into a €2000 set.What I would suggest is entry level product lines that are cheap but still of more robust quality than Temu slop, but that'd have lower margins so won't ever happen broadly enough.
>>533788398I get it, I do the same thing, it just seems sad to me that we’ve let offshore manufacturing gut more local manufacturing to save a few bucks.
>>533788239idk, a minisplit comes precharged with freon so all i was vacuuming was the lines and the blower head. the instructions said nothing about purging but did say to not uncap the lines until you were ready to connect them.
>>533788239you mean ethane?because thats what is in the cans and if you mean off of an air compressor you will introduce moisture into the system by virtue of how an air compressor works. Nitrogen also picks up moisture incredibly well
>>533788504they do it to themselves. New CEO comes in cuts cots via outsourcing parts to china, price is the same. stock goes up due to massive earnings report, CEO sells his stock options for hundreds of millions on this. takes a few years for brand name value to degrade and sales to go down, new CEO has already cashed in and is ready to leave
>>533786276>boomers asking so muchyeah it's the same here. and not only tools. cars, photo gear, motorbikes, boats - you name it. there's always retard boomers listing their shit overpriced. when you ask them for a lower price they insult & block you. and their listing stays online for months lolold people should get mandatory MAID
>>533786392depends. it's not the 90s anymore and chink manufacturing has come a long way.most likely that thing OP bought comes from the same factory/assembly line as some "brand" tool.
>>533787020>i can buy the cheap version of some tools i dont use much at all while spending seveal times more on tools that will get used lots moreI do this. All my shit I use every day like battery grinders, impact gun etc. are all top of the line, but I buy the shittiest cheap sets of sockets/spanners etc. That way I can lose em, weld em to shit, whatever. Still, fuck china.
>>533788548A lot of HVAC guys on youtube purge their systems with nitrogen before vacuuming down whenever they open the sealed system to replace a part.
>>533786276facebook marketplace and ebay are largely worthless because of this. however, i did get a "broken" lincoln welder for $150 that i fixed for $10.
>>533786276It will break in a year tops.
>>533789116True. If you buy shit new it doesn't matter if you buy chink or brand. Brands are also manufactured in China. I buy most of my shit 2nd hand from the time the west still produced shit. Not because i need it, but because modern stuff just can't beat it.
>>533788121see>>533787656
>>533788083>ya, it's unreal how bad chinkshit is.there fix'd.
>>533786572>No refunds Lmao did you test it?
>>533789308go look up where your name brand vacuum pump is made.
>>533786330>They know what they got
>>533789312>>533789308Let me guess, one of you own a tool truck.
>>533789425I have dealt with boomers that need directions like this. Even after I give them my exact address they still want to know road directions.
>>533786392Doesn't matter. Cheap chinkshit is good though and if and when it breaks I can just buy another and it's still cheaper than buying western made stuff
At this point they are just hoping for someone that doesn't know how to shop online to show up and overpay.
>>533789931for me, it's beat to shit milwaukee power tools where the retard wants 80% of the MSRP of a brand new tool with a warranty (also probably 1-2 generations newer.)