previous: >>533798471thread theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9B3nkImD0Q4Day: 17 of the 14-day Ceasefire™ with IranDay: 56 of the 1-day "Special Military Operation™ to decapitate Iran"Day: 8 of the 10-day Ceasefire™ with Lebanon▶RECENT:>POTUS announced he ordered the U.S. Navy to "shoot and kill any boat... that is putting mines in the" Strait of Hormuz.>Senior Israeli official says preparations are underway for approval from the US administration to resume hostilities — Channel 13>The UK Maritime Trade Operations Center reported a security incident 83 miles southeast off Somalia.>Israeli artillery shelling in Khiam, Lebanon.>Drone attacks against Erbil, Iraqi Kurdistan.>Somalia announces a ban on all Israeli ships passing Bab Al-Mandab.>Iran insists it will not agree to talks until the USA removes its naval blockade and recognizes the rights of the Iranian nation.▶WARNING:>Do not trust any "happenings" or posts without link/proof>Uкraine / Яussia discussions belong in uнg or cнug▶Oil:https://oilprice.com/oil-price-charts/▶Kino:https://files.catbox.moe/dqr3fl.mp4https://files.catbox.moe/jg9rat.mp4https://files.catbox.moe/fx86zj.mp4https://files.catbox.moe/cbd7ug.mp4https://files.catbox.moe/2hwzcx.mp4https://files.catbox.moe/smmsfw.mp4https://files.catbox.moe/x0fbgv.mp4https://files.catbox.moe/86yxn2.mp4▶Live-streams:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4E-iFtUM2kk [Embobby]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdcrT5OcS9c [Embooby xd]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53G-Oy4r6M4 [Embd]▶Telegram Channels:https://rentry.org/tgnews▶Israel Rocket Alerts:https://www.tzevaadom.co.il/en/▶Air Traffic:https://www.flightradar24.com/https://flightaware.com/livehttps://globe.adsbexchange.com/▶Maritime Traffic:https://www.marinetraffic.com/https://www.vesselfinder.com/https://hormuztracking.com/
It’s that time again. What’s your realistic prediction of how this shit ends?
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>>533806328fucking L:OSER
>>533806241https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=a0jOZ-IMDNU
>>533806328Dumb migger lmao
>/pig/ thread # 1016What exactly has happened since /pig/ thread # 1000?Oh, fuck all? Ok cool
whats for dinner pigs ?
>>533806328> Americans for limited government> Supports the invasion of Iran
shitty war no real plan no real goal
>>533806323irannys getting nuked and their screams broadcast to live television
>>533806382my mind is all a blur but the only recent news i remember is persia revenge capturing 2 or 3 cargo ships in response to america capturing a cargo ship from china with explosive precursors and electronics or whatever
>>533806351>Cucktin is a legal-fag,Cucktin is nothing but another ZOG vassal whose purpose is to send russians die for Israel
>>533806385homemade sourdough focaccia and skirt steak sammiches
>>533806451>he said, delusionallly
>>5338063232nd round, iran retaliates against the GCC right away before powerplant day, escalation goes down and trump wakes up to being locked in as a worse mass murder than mao, hitler and stalin combined in the decade of famine that will hit the world and kill billionsI doubt the US got the patience to see their failure of blockade go on
>>533806435be bomb them all and march inneed more bombs first tho not safe to march in yet
>>533806485i pet goat 2 disclosed ittehran does seem like the perfect place for a nuke imho
>>533806328>MUHzlumsNobody gives a fuck you boomer retard.A Muslim never inflated my currency or charged me interest.
TIME IS RUNNING OUT !! SIGN THE DEAL BEFORE. OUT OF TIME !!
>>533806323What I think will happen: Iran wins the most embarrassing conflict in modern history. This emboldens some unknown nation (even stupider than the USA) to attack the (USA or an ally) and then they learn the difference between attack and defense involves more than a plane ride.
>>533806494Trump has the patience because he’s too scared to do anything else but wait. The American public does not, and the moment shipments of anything to the inner cities stops because diesel is unaffordable we get the summer of love all over again
>>533806532yes I understand thatwhy did they pull the trigger early and misfire last month?
>>533806323Trump sends in the army in an op nobody thought of so far but it's really really stupid and based completely on luckCarpet bombing with fucking everything the US has of one area, trump declares victory instantly and drop 20 truth posts about how he check mated Iran before the counter attack arrives and it's a bloodbath, On sunday it's called off and everyone pretends it was all a way of pushing Iran to negotiate and markets get repumped
>>533806762What patience? The US is doing and trying something new and retarded every 2-3 days since this started.
>>533806323Regime change in the US.
>>533806582Would've been two months ago, right now you're just committing a war crime everyone will use as an excuse to try and group up against you for not even half the city's normal population since most are going to the countryside
The US has come to the conclusion that diplomacy can no longer produce a 'result' with Iran. functionally there is nothing the US can do about the strait closure or Iranian nuclear/missile programs. israel and the israeli lobby in the US's sole, primary obejective of this war was to leave Iran as a smoldering "failed state' mired in humanitarian catastrophe, unable to function as a coherent nation state. THUS all messaging about the war of israeli aggression in Iran will whole-sale switch to recovering the enriched uranium which is the symbolic cover for creating these conditions.to this end, israels intent is to have the US launch a total-war campaign of israeli-style collective punishment against Iran, attacking civilian infrastructure that will create conditions of widespread national catastrophe that will consume the Iranian governments attention and resources, creating a window where the US can enter Iran and occupy Isfahan nuclear complex, to establish an occupation zone, where it will set up an extraction operation for the enriched uranium or as trump puts it "nuclear dust" (to make it seem insignificant in the media).this is will 100% of the new messaging going forwardit will be a total saturation of the 'removal of enriched uranium' talking point, agnosium. israel and the israeli lobby in the US have wagered the future of israel itself on its recovery/civilian attack campaign. the "ceasefire" in domestic israeli politics has nearly collapsed the country, the lebanon ethnic cleansing has failed completely and most israelies see it as the final evidence of inarguable 'defeat'. israel an the israeli lobby have given trump zero choice in the matter. his hands are tied, and the US MUST launch its ground invasion of Iran to create the conditions of the failed state promised to these two groups.
>>533806765It's all Donald Trump's fault. You see, they had plans for days on taking out Maduro and walking into Venezuela is literally like a day at the beach, since South America is our cozy private backyard, globally speaking. Just look at how isolated they are down there.I think Iran watched Venezuela play out on live TV and thought he had the fist of God in his fake front suit pocket. He got cocky and thought Iran would be like Venezuela. The military had 8 months to plan Venezuela but probably a week or less to attack Iran. US Military literally pushed allies out of their bases (invading our allies lol) to commandeer their airfields and stuff. Trump pushed our armies and they stumbled forward into Iran.Trump can grasp things in an economic manner but he thinks Iran "losing $500 million dollars every day" matters at all when their alternative to being poor is getting vaporized and humiliated and being turned into globalist opium farms inc.
>>533806960basically:>If Iran does not agree to Trump's demands, then the US will bomb Iran's bridges and power plants If Iran agrees to unilaterally disarm, then the US will still bomb Iran's bridges and power plants, but Iran will no longer be able to retaliate.its that simple.in either scenario, the jews have ordered the ground invasion and the assets are en route
>>533806323TWO BIG MACS, TWO LARGE FRIES AND TWO LARGE DIET COKES.
>>533807031AND TWO MORE WEEKS
the new thing im shilling is airdropping in bunkers right outside teh entrance/exit of the tunnels the sand rat leadership is in. trump if youre reading this pls do this new meta>>533806960>>533807004aint no one reading this garbage
>>533807102k negro
>>533807102>the new thing im shilling is airdropping in bunkers right outside teh entrance/exit of the tunnels the sand rat leadership is in. trump if youre reading this pls do this new metayou faggot nigger kikes are fucking patheticso how many more entrance and exists to go?how many more JDAMS untill all the entrances are "forever closed"?how many?
>>533807004No, maduro was obviously an inside job. They got the go ahead from number two, flew in; picked him up and called it a win. They thought could play the ukraine game hiding assets in the gcc while Iran defended on all sides.
>>533807004right he got cocky. So the ceasefire for TWO WEEKS was to make up for jumping the gun right after the State of the Union address where he was high on his own farts? Not having Afghanistan bases anymore makes this way way way way way way harder.
So, will we see human-chains again around civilian facilities and infrastructure? Yes, I didn't forget about that. The newsflow from the orangetard being what it is, would the US army still fire? Arguably Trump doesn't give a shit and will consider them valid targets (which they may be, that's not the real issue here), but that dozen of generals sure didn't resign for nothing. yes, that too was forgotten with the clown newsflow.
>>533807026> then the US will bomb Iran's bridges and power plantsDidn’t work with Ukraine it will be even more inefficient against Iran. They are ready for that. Previously they fixed power plants and power stations in few hours, few days for the bridges. This strategy is a losing strategy.
>>533807178well the number of marines is at least 150,000 so if each bunker has 100 marines thats 1500 bunkers
>>533807181You might be right.Getting spies and saboteurs in a "communist country" when said country is just a kleptocracy is so stupid easy. Iran is a highly isolated, much larger, and has a much harder culture to infiltrate.>>533807210Yes, it's almost like the USA is losing. Even though Trump and friends said we won.
>>533806943america can do whatever the fuck it wants
friendly reminder you will all be here in exactly one month from now and nothing will still have happened and nobody cares about Iran anymore
>>533807226the US fears the retaliation against the GCC not killing the civies>>533807252why not drop desk of school, then duck and cover hahaha amerikans you are so foolish
>>533806241>>533806323Taco Bell and a six pack
>>533807272Yes, we are losing. Iran is like terrorist numero uno and we warred against terrorism for my entire adolescence.
>>533807272what the fuck? where is his prefrontal cortext?
>>533807312
>>533807354What did Iran even do again before this war? Get off the petrodollar? Trade with Russia? China? Just let them have a missile. Those nuclear weapons are so expensive and nobody ever even fires them. They draw political heat too, once you get a nuke you can't just get rid of it unless you're like the USSR and have 1200 of them>>533807359>shrugs
>>533806323Nothing will happen
>>533807226They never cared about civilians before. Why would they now?
>>533807312True. Life is shit.
>>533806762>we get the summer of love all over againNo one is going to riot. They'll complain, but the only time we ever riot is when a nigger dies
I want Iran to lose, Israel to lose, but America to win.How do we accomplish that?
>>533807305Well apparently it can go through a straitMaybe lose some fucking weight next time
>>533807102>he thinks it's a tl;dr tier postrepent, phoneposting scum
>>533807508If """America"""" loses this battle, then you will win the war
At this point the only way the USA's reputation gets worse is if we actually use an atomic. Why? The secrets of radiation hold a clue.
I just want Americans to suffer at this point.
>>533807508Leave the middle east and let them fight
>>533807465there's actually a good Ben Affleck movie about what Iran even did again before this war
>>533807465>Those nuclear weapons are so expensive and nobody ever even fires them. They draw political heat too, once you get a nuke you can't just get rid of it unless you're like the USSR and have 1200 of themWhen you have them, no one bothers you anymore. See North Korea. Ali Khamenei's fatwa against nukes proved to be a mistake.
>>533807508Long term, if the US loses this war, it will reform/soft collapse like the USSR did in the 90s. That's your best bet at winning since you can start over from a tabula rasa
>>533807611North Korea is just China's belarus
>>533807312Well, I can't speak for the rest of you, but I'm having fun even if nothing is happening
>>533807272> Getting spies and saboteurs in a "communist country" when said country is just a kleptocracy is so stupid easy This is true for all latinx btw. Hilariously the one latinx country that might be different and put a real resistance is the one the us wants the most. Cuba.
>>533806382How long has it been since things have happened? 2 weeks? 3?
>>533807597oh I saw this one, "Argo fuck yourselves" that's a great one. I love the fake ass Star Wars too that was great. These nifty new modern shredders really pulp everything, it would have saved their asses back then.>>533807611I don't even know anymore. Israel has nukes but they've been bombed and attacked for years. Iran bombed them plenty and Israel COULD retaliate with a nuke. I hope they don't, although they might, and try to blame the USA hahaha those treacherous Jews
>>533807597thats a leftoid framing, afflect got into a fight over the movie on TV with fake irish and jewish ethno nationalist uboat bill maher
>>533807322are you aware that germany mayve won ww2 if you retards bunkered down and kept cozy inside a warm bunker instead of sperg rushing stalingrad and moscow and freezing to death. in fact, youre the perfect example of what not to be in war because not only did you forsake bunkers but you also were impatient
>>533807312Normally that would.be true, but this is an escalating problem, what with the whole lack of energy and eventually food issue.
>>533807252>well the number of marines is at least 150,000 so if each bunker has 100 marines thats 1500 bunkerslmao, so if Iran has hundreds.. or even thousands of these kind of sites......then what?>heres anotherwhich entranc+air vent do the marines start going down?and how many do they have to >"bomb and close and trap the Iranians who would never fight back anyway"will they have to occupy?just judging by those satellite photos...sure looks like alot of entrances..and a lot of ground to cover...wide open with not one fucking weed of grass as cover
>>533807844In their defense, it worked in the entire rest of the continent
>he thinks something might happen
>>533807846For you yes, for mutts it'll be higher prices.
>>533807844Germany never stood a chance against the Soviet Union
>>533807942Man if I was Iran I would just dig fake ass tunnel systems that are just empty fake doors like they have all over area 51
>>533807844are you aware that germany was fight the US + the british empire + the soviet union?
>>533807312So when does the strait open? May 15th?
>>533807794Israel needs the good optics because it's funded by its victimhood industry. It's a grifter state.
>>533808017when the war started the soviet union didn't have field radios, just to give you a perspective of how indispensable US and British support was for themthey had no field radio when barbarossa started
>>533808026I bet they've done plenty of that. Decoys are such an obvious and cheap thing to do.
>>533807668my buddies have a trump death pool (some of them already lost kek) but yeah basically January 21st 2027 we could see a president Vance when the democrats have enough seats to impeach
>>533808017the soviets already moved factories to the ural mountains which wouldve given them enough time to be saved by america but the germans at least couldve at least not embarassed themselves as much as they did
>>533808100
>>533807668>USSR in the 90s>soft collapseSo breaking apart into 15 countries and not being able to fully overpower one of them 30+ years later is a soft collapse?
I will admit that something happened once it will start to affect my life. Right now, it's just slightly higher prices (which were already rising anyway)There is no starvation, no fuel shortages yet etc.As of now, nothing happened and if i had no internet connection i would not be able to tell that this war is even going on
>(1 month and 4 weeks)
>>533808052More than 80% of Hitlers army was dedicated to fight the Soviet Union, the rest were just scraps>>533808153>saved by americaGoyslop propaganda
>>533808226kek russia has no internet connection and they absolutely can tell the war is going on because of it
>>533807514i know it can
>>533807942>wide open with not one fucking weed of grass as coverThat's what they sent Kush & Weedkov there for
>>533808015While Americans will gleefully die for Isreal, I don't think the rest of the world will quietly starve to death because "we can't allow Iran to gave a nuclear weapon" or whatever
>>533808380what the fuck are you going to do beside vandalize 4chan like that australian, egyptian and turk
>>533808291you can literally drive into russia by car and join their internet (which is faster than what we have lul) even as a western european. i know because a guy here in the netherlands is doing youtube trip all the way to siberia through russia. he entered via the polish border. you can find his journey here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8l3MRIBG1Y
>>533808380Maybe your country can execute all the imprisoned western pedoforks to send a message.
>>533808264I read the "official story" from the Auschwitz Commandant and the one thing from that thing I do believe for sure is when he described seeing the Russian solders marching in, starving, barely conscious, like zombies.pic is wrong war
>>533808460So how long until he's in Black Dolphin?
>>533808460>overland VW Up!kek, never imagined it in my wildest dreams>the 1.0L that could
>>533807312Oh we'll all indeed be here instead of traveling for the holidays. Can't do much other than stay at home when oil is no more or only for those able to fly business class.
>>533808380who is going to stop the US? nobody and the consequences are too delayed for anybody to see where this is going which is scorched earth
>>533808226retarded memeflag
>>533808549Nah, it's stuff like Jet 2 that'll get grounded grounded grounded. Bigger airlines will raise prices, cut short hauls/unprofitable routes, and consolidate. Except for Lufthansa but they're reeling from a strike.
>>533807102bomb... le bunkers???shit anon I think they need your skills at CENTCOM
>>5338063826 hezbollah guys died in Bint Jbeil today I think.
>>533808496>smells mustard gas >doesn’t dieHmm
elon musk is currently letting laura loomer doxx cen uhygurs wiferemember that loomer called for the reconstitution of the jewish terror group on the same site prior without reprisal
>>533808010Israeli media is shitting themselves because war was a complete failure and they want US to restart it.I hezbollah-israel war slowly getting traction again but I think orange pussy is not going to do another bombing campaign
>>533808604What made you seething so much? Is it because you live in a shithole warzone while i am comfy?Join the army and fight for your country cuck
>>533808812>dumb nigger doesn't understand why he's a dumb niggernot surprising at all
>>533808597>who is going to stop the US?so far the US struggle to maintain a conflict for more than a few weeks against a country that have been under sanctions and destabilized for decadeswe're merely a coalition away from a global war against the US, like >>533808380 pointed out
>>533808790I can see it happening>dog smells mustard gas from a mile away>just fucking barks autistically and runs away from it>people put on their gas masksThe way that shit worked was REALLY FUCKING WELL, you just aim that shit downwind. You don't have to hit anyone with it directly.
It would be too bad if an IRGC local commander (under cover mossad agent) would fire a few missiles at rhe UAE...Surely it totally wouldn't force the US into the second round...
>>533806328>Iran nukesWho cares, doesn't affect anyone beside Israel's stupid Lebensraum project>voter fraudTrump has done fuckall about it>Somali fraudTrump fucked up that case (which Biden had been handling) by getting ICE involved who then lost to soccer moms>Islamic invasionIf Israel and Trump had their way, we'd be sending millions of Muslim refugees globally, many of whom would end up in the US since Trump has done nothing about the NGOs who host them>globalismTrump is a globalist puppet who hangs out at Davos and is owned by globalist corporations, plus he wants to annex Canada, Mexico, Cuba, etc. and make the North American Union>men in women's sportsFair, but will be overturned in the coming blue wave>child gender mutilationTrump supports this as long as it's done by parental consent>>533806323
>>533808809He has to. Just keeping a porous joke of a blockade up doesn't stop the degradation of the Dollar or re-influence states under the US umbrella.In order to secure the (at least short-term) prosperity of the American empire, he is forced to go in and try to defeat the Iranians decisively.Every other option is a complete and utter loss for the US. That choice has a chance of working out in the favor of the US (lmao like 0.00000000000000000000000001%).
>>533808869stepping into a shooting war between the US and Iran is a nonstarter for anybody else
>>533808869Nobody will go against the US, lmao. Especially as they're now the world's energy supplier. But nobody will help either, which is good enough.
>>533808994are you namefagging because of that event from years ago when everyone got assigned a name?
>>533809134I was referencing the canadian who always pops in threads and goes "how long has it been since (x) happened? 2 weeks? 3?"accidentally forgot i kept it on
>>533809035the question is really if the US goes scorched earth and iran retaliatesor if we see a "whoopsie" cycle of escalation where oil and so forth get degraded as uninited but easy to predict consequence of the USraeli escalation cycles
>>533809134I think I remember Gary he would always show up and remind everyone of something like something hadn't happened yet. He was very unremarkable
>>533808994If Trump lets Iran toll the Strait but gets them to pay in USD, that would actually be a win for the US. There's no easy way out, but restoring the Obama nuclear agreement (Trump can lie to his braindead cult and say it's better than Obama's) and giving Iran 10 years of Hormuz tolls (split with Oman) paid in USD as reparations would let the US walk away. Ultimately, our empire will decay unless we can solve the problems at home, so getting out of this retarded war is an absolute must. Going in any deeper won't save the US but will flood the world with tens of millions of Muslim refugees, kill tens of thousands of Americans, and eat up tens of trillions of dollars that we cannot afford, all with no guarantee of victory, while making what is about to be the worst oil shock ever far, far worse.
>>533809210Shows how retarded I am, I just assumed Gary had moved or was on vacation
>>533809210US empire also uses this war to blockade shipments of oil to China and they even started sanctioning chinese tankers AND refineries.I suspect they will start seizing these tankers soon.you also stick out like a sore thumb because of leddit spacing.
>>533809304Toll will be paid in iranian currency only
>>533809134No, he's from the diverse city of Gary, Indiana.
>>533809304>If Trump lets Iran toll the Strait but gets them to pay in USDno as it would mean to unsanction iran and treat them all the other guilfoids
>>533809348 not our fault, india keeps outbidding china on oil tankers. china should go to war with india to settle this dispute
>>533809348china will just bypass those things, the really issue is as I see it that it implicit acknowledges that the physical blockade is incomplete and or entirely ineffective
Iran already said they won't be negotiating with Trump's team this weekend. So what now?
>>533806241Nigger
>>533809559Trump resumes attacks or TACO
>>533809304>IRAN will want to toll in USDnot happening period. they see the US and Israel as enemies, and soundly denounce the entire idea of buying into that scheme of profiteering.the US sees Iran as an enemy as well, as shown by the insane demands they gave at the (((negotiation))) table.attacking Iran was an awful mistake, and now the US is in, as I've seen several posters say, "zugzwang". a very apt description of the situation.>>533809348reddit spacing is pure meme.adding spaces keeps things easier to read.i mean sure, but then it's just a straight up overt war with china, and the US is not winning either if it spreads out its fronts like that, let alone what other countries would get upto if something that insane actually happened.also, afaik the blockade is only real in Trump's head, lol. so many ships just going through anyway completely ignoring it, and I believe china is still getting their oil straight from Iran to this day.
>>533809559the US sees it as negotiation if iran and kushner are in islamaba and have messages send back and forth by pakistania intermediariesfox news had the US press secretary brag about it todayto me this does seem like it is negotiations even if iran pretends it is something else
>>533809349That's Iran's terms, but you know damn well Iran wouldn't mind if they were paid in USD. I'm just trying to think what a sane US negotiating team (which would take a decapitation strike on the Trump administration plus AIPAC's fave Dems like Hakeem Jeffries and Chuck Schumer) would try to achieve here. Iran has a lot of level-headed people who don't want a mutual suicide with the global economy and know to take a good deal when they see it. And I am sure they know the deal has to be good enough so the next Donald Trump can't just come in and bomb them some more and do salami slicing bullshit against Iran. Getting the right to toll the Strait (and thus more or less getting reparations from the bombing campaign) from the US would be a HUGE win.
>>533809559>Iran already said they won't be negotiating with Trump's team this weekend. So what now?set a new countdown clock, bombastically post on twitter, then schizophrenically negotiate with no one when you hit the deadline>>533809608no amount of attacks will ever produce any strategic "victory" condition israel set for the USmore attacks do nothing but fuck the US position worse
>>533807272man i feel bad for russians.. even if they end up winning ukraine (someday), the fact that it took them so long and cost them so dearly... brootal>>533809559war is starting up again, I imagine
>>533809661>the US sees it as negotiation if iran and kushner are in islamaba and have messages send back and forth by pakistania intermediariesKek.Why do you even send anyone in person for that.Just fax the damn document.
>>533809414>not our faulteverything is your fault.
trump's been quiet and hasn't talked or tweeted about iran in over a day, did he already move on or is something going to happen soon?
>>533809720Chabad Russia is on the Brink of collapse.>Zuganov is actually controlled opposition that was forced to retract and say he meant february, not october
>>533809736the past rounds were similiar non negotion negotiations, iran is autistic about demanding that the negotions are held in this format and not called negotiations
>>533809779>trump's been quiet and hasn't talked or tweetedI see a pattern here...
>>533809658If US can not actually break Iran and take over Hormuz they can still hurt China, this is why blockade continues and intensifies and this is why they're sanctioning chinese tankers.Trump will travel to China in 2-3 weeks and he will try to extort something from chinese for "unlockading" their oil.
>>533809720>the fact that it took them so long and cost them so dearly... brootalwhat the fuck are you talking about?the war completely, totally and permenantly killed europe offeurope is now a demilitarized geo-political joke no one on earth takes seriously, let alone sees as a threat or 'authority'this war was cataclysmic for europe. apocalyptic even
>>533809779trump came out today against candace owens inter racial marriage and mixed race childre "taking white mans money"and against hyper zionist jewish producer harvey "speaking jew to jew to solve it" weinstein who raped non jewish talent for ages with the coverup of the jewish hollywood institution
>>533809877>If US can not actually break Iran and take over Hormuz they can still hurt China, this is why blockade continues and intensifies and this is why they're sanctioning chinese tankers.literally no they cantthis will have no lasting effect on China. periodwhich is why they have been essentially silent the entire time
>>533809828Afaik, the in-person talk that the top people meet is supposed to take place AFTER the negotiation has progress enough through back channels to a point where there are only minor disagreements left.
>>533809877China could start sending destroyers to escort their tankers.
>>533809877Of course he will, that is literally the idea behind doing that.But it doesn't actually change the position the US is in. Time is not on the side of the US here, they are the ones who need to be aggressive to be the victor. Each day they don't do something is one more day that worsens the day when they inevitably attack.
>>533806960high IQ post. People need to stop thinking of the US as an independent state and realize it is the jewish golem. Trump does what he’s told. The “intelligence community” works for israel/jews. jews want iran (and then turkey) destroyed, because jews are genocidal maniacs who can’t co-exist with humanity (because they’re not human).
>>533809877if the US stages the blockade for 2 month to cause shut ins ("expert" said it would take that long for iranian storage to run out) then disengages from the conflict then that would some sensethe blockade is ineffective, the US is amassing an armada so no disengagementthe physical blockade is being buttressed by financial sanctions against chinameaning the US expects for it to not work or has failed already
>>533809940China still needs a lot of crude not just for fuel but also for production.They're also attacking Russian ports for that exact reason - to hurt China.You're delusional to think this has no effect on chinese.
>>533809720The fact that this ridiculous war was both instigated by the USA and destroys the EU who is our biggest economic rival made me radically rethink my political stance. Some of those higher-ups in the government really seem competent especially right about now.
>>533807272It really appears that Israel screwed us when they killed the ayatollah early and Trump is just unwilling to admit that's what happened. They were probably going to attempt to repeat the Venezuela plan, build up forces in the region and wait for people to crack and sell out their boss.
>>533809985China would like as much as America to fuck iran over for not allowing their gulf oil pass
>>533809718>no amount of attacks will ever produce any strategic "victory" conditionThat doesn't matter. To the last American.
>>533809913you're delusional, do you even realize europe bankroll your economy via treasury bondsor the fact that we maintain critical industrial sectors that you don't?
>>533810132>the EU>who is our biggest economic rivalYou're supposed to be 18 to post here, kid.Stay in school.
>>533809985highly unlikely but still possible. It would mean a direct confrontation with the US which China is trying to avoid.
>no steve todayit's over, nothing is happening
>>533810132The EU is not our economic rival at all. They are economically dependent on us. China is our economic rival which was the whole point of this nonsense. And the more Trump panics and tries to push China the closer it's going to push us to full war with China and we would not win that war.
>>533810154Venezuela HAD a plan.>>533810213What, China? 50% of China's GDP is fake. It's all a lie, propaganda. People buy European cars, wine, expensive shit. China will get even less relevant as the consumer economy focuses more on the wealthy few.
>>533809682There's no mutual suicide of the global economy:China has largest strategic reserves topped off, and Iranian oil and cargo is moving around the blockade largely uninterrupted as has been shown, the fact is that people will simply swallow the 50% or even more price increase that all goods and services will take and Russia, and Iran, will benefit, Iran has been sanctioned for 5 decades and that kind of resilience wasn't freely given, it was earned, do we get a thank you for kt, much like the russhits?Sorty, no salami little cakes.
>>533810157Why would they want Iran fucked for their contribution dismantling US hegemony.>>533810230It took a long time for Russia to start escorting their tankers, but when even China's SPR starts to show its bottom, they'll have little choice.
>>533810131the UK/US have ukraine take down russian exports because it benefits the US energy industry and makes up for the budget surplus russia gets in this crisisin the short term true, mid term russia will push everything to asia leaving europe dry and high with only reliance on the USthis hurts specific west europe and more the center than france/UK/spain benelux and germany should be affected the worst, anyway this is so the war can continue not that ukraine got manpower left the issue is on russia not establlishing deterrence against energy sabotage by the primary instigators and aggressors in this war (US who still provide the targeting dateand have to greenlight every strike into russia and the UK who are the most aggressive party in all of this nobody else even coming close)
>>533810316Our GDP is faker than China's. Our entire stock market is comprised of 7 tech companies that trade with each other in a bubble set to burst because Open AI is drowning in trillion dollar debt.
>>533810347if powerplant day happens chinas reserve will not last long enoughas the shutdown would take 2-3 years to repair in some capacity
>>533810176>you're delusional, do you even realize europe bankroll your economy via treasury bonds>or the fact that we maintain critical industrial sectors that you don't?LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOsure good luck with your bond fuckeryhope you like power and lights and preserved food and shit like that
>>533810316>>533810316China is fake got it, why is western digital even scraping old hdds for rare earths, imagine if we can't even into chinkanium magnots.
>>533810230It would also basically hand the US navy victory as China would be destroying their two biggest advantages fighting that far from home with their oil supply restricted.
>>533810249>They are economically dependent on usit's more the other way around actuallynow we're dependent on services, mainly banking, and we're already proceeding to fix that
>>533810359China is an amoral nation that only cares about making profits, and sell cheap products. They asked Iran to stop attacking the gulf too, because they get their oil from there.
>>533810249https://thehill.com/opinion/international/5300578-china-economy-fraud-population/>China reported remarkable economic growth of 5.4 percent in the first quarter of 2025. Its growth is fascinating, since it far outstripped all large economies.>It is also noteworthy because it comes amid China’s collapsing real estate bubble, stagnant growth in its second-largest export market (Europe), negative growth in its top export market (the U.S.), falling domestic population and deflation.>How did China achieve this miracle? The answer is simple — it didn’t.It's so easy to find this stuff. Stop listening to Trump if you've been getting any geopolitical analysis from him it clearly shows.>>533810396GDP is kind of hard to torture by design but yes the data center bubble is a whopping ~30% according to some reports. Even if AI is proven to be useful (doubt) then it gutshots the unskilled section of the economy. LOL>>533810484Eventually garbage pits will be some of the best mines for odd metals.All the fake China building stuff is where that nominal GDP increase grows. Mostly ghost cities which kind of fuel their investment economy since China's only semi-safe investment plan is condominiums that aren't mean to be moved into, funnily enough.
>>533810480lol you're clueless
>>533810509the american is full of shit, stop talking with him or you will turn stupidthe US didn't set their money print on fire to counter china, they were enlisted to sabotage themselves to protect israeli aggressive hegemonic military aims
>>533809718>won't be negotiating with Trump's team this weekendwhich faction there said that?
>>533810509>it's more the other way around actuallyWe own the entire tech division you're dependent on and then we forced you to come to us for gas because of the war with Russia. Yes, you are starting to move away now because that move will take a decade at best. The number one consumer of Euro goods you do make is still the US. You would need to switch that for China or spread it out among it other countries at least to have a fair shot of cutting the US off.
>>533810316Iran likely had a plan too. I doubt that literally the same people who planned and executed the Venezuela op were so impressed by its success that they decided to skip all that shit and Leroy Jenkins Iran.
>no no my nation is the super richest wealthiestAt the end of the day what really matters is your quality of life. Are you happy with what you're doing? With how you feel?
>>533806241>banned for a day>just let it go because captcha fascism>zero changes to updateslmfao busybodies, tattletales, bitches, niggers, jannies, trannies, jews, and most of all miggers get the woven hemp
>>533810642these fucking niggers were talking about how we desperately need potash from canada when america made its first firm step to stand heroically against this corrupted world. words are just a means to an end to them
>>533810416Chinese can ration and are next to Russia, they will be the strongest ones and this has been documented thus far, western msm was malding and is still malding that China did a 180 of their initial prediction of who's going to be affected most by the war. Many such humiliations to follow.
>>533810704america is more corrupt than ukraine at this point
>>533810539>They asked Iran to stop attacking the gulf too, because they get their oil from there.China gets less than 15% of its total oil from Iran.China gets no more than 18% of its oil from one source, exactly precisely for situations like thisthus, any one supplier can take up the slack if one or the other was being denied
>>533810667Iran is a stove. You don't put your hand on it. The military may have had drafts for an invasion but nobody in the military was likely insane enough to seriously consider it except for this guy's successor maybe.Venezuela had 8 months for invasion preparation and Iran looks like it had just a week, maybe two. It's like Batman, Batman has all the tools he needs to win but has to dig them out first.I know about Superman now, why he has to spend all that time in the sun, and why the glowing green rock fucking murders him turbo hard.
>>533810735if the GCC go offline for 2-3 years then china is more fucked than the US
>>533810682Why were you banan?
>>533810744>Saudi Arabia >UAE>Oman>KuwaitThat's what i said, that china gets their oil from gulf countries
>>533810634>which faction there said that?lmao, well the Ayatollah isnt there...and no one else seems to have spoken up....and Irans official "twitter" which Trump uses as the gospel said there "are no negotiations" made that statement...and there is no Vance (again) and the same 2 irrelevant cucks were dispatched to talk to the "no-one" Iran sent.....so you tell me? what faction was saying they would "negotiate"and since your a kike, and youre arguing there are 'competing factions' in Iran, despite all evidence suggesting a unified front...who did you believe they were going to talk to?
>>533810642>We own the entire tech division you're dependent ontechlet take
>>533810132i would attribute it more to unbelievably retarded level of stupidity from the side of the EU political class and unbelievable levels of suicidality from the ukranians.truly the perfect match made in heaven
>>533810018>time is not on their sideHormuz is under Iranian control basically indefinitely, agreeing with that would be a total defeat for US in middle east and basically a capitulation.Blockade of all oil in Hormuz makes sense only because other options are worse.
>>533810744powerplant day and retaliation puts nearly 40% of chinas oil import out of business for 2-3 years (malaysia ist mostly laundered iranian oil, iraq too)
>>533810870Tech oligarchy is in charge of the US right now. It's hard to not have a tech take.
>>533810586stop with the shoddy craftsmanship, the very fact in censored China that is documented and uploaded for literal retards like yourself to "proof" how terrible China is overall only further reinforces my opinion of what a complete imbecilic nonthought you must be to persist in this retarded "China builds ghost cities, here's Chinese tik tok to explain" while we scrape trash for to "replace" the Chinese minerals and processing.
>>533810843>hat's what i said, that china gets their oil from gulf countriesnominallyits connected to Russia by the largest land-border in the world, who could take up their slack in an instant....now what?not to mention the massive reserves China has to weather diplomatic storms like this.at any given point, China can outlast an entire "mid-term" and probably a whole administration of a US government. Trumps halfway there already...all China has to do is shuffle some cards, and it can make it all the way to 2028 no problemthere is nothing the US can do about that reality, other than attack China outright itself..which it wouldnt dare
>>533810943jews specific likud is in charge now of the US, if you deny it at this point you are in on it, end of the storyanti american canards like "israel doesn't control the US" have to end
>>533810801>Iran looks like it had just a week, maybe two.Exactly my point. Forces had just gotten to the region when Israel decided there were enough for their purposes and attacked. Too many things were left undone for me to believe centcom wasn't surprised by the start of the war.
>>533810359NATO/CIA were trying to force Russia to escort their tankers for a long time. I'm yet to understand why, maybe they were just trying to normalize the seizure of tankers on high seas and didn't care about Russian retaliatory steps that much.
>>533810921>powerplant day and retaliation puts nearly 40% of chinas oil import out of business for 2-3 years (malaysia ist mostly laundered iranian oil, iraq too)China could fall back on Russia and its reserves untill the entire Trump administration was finishedso unless Trump invokes a 3rd term>"Hurrrrrrrrr you can have 3 terms, but not consecutively" (which is the actual pitch believing teasing obama 3 would get dems to cave to the rule change)China just has to do the usual *nothing* and win
>>533810488confrontation doesn't always mean actual fire exchange you mouthbreather
>>533810901The Ukraine conflict is super super weird for a lot of reasons. Every leader in the very democratic EU got up and talked big about how they need to stop the terrible Russian threat, but then nobody ever walked into Ukraine to help them. I think JD Vance was right when he talked about Lil Lensky's walking tour potemkin base. The only support Ukraine got was money which apparently can prolong a conflict but not end it.>>533810944If China is so epic just move there. The land is filled with poison, those Chinese farmers dump pesticides everywhere like nobody fucking cares. The Chinese elite might buy and eat only foreign food but they still breathe toxic Chinese air. Watch ADV China, some white boys really did live and explore there and got kicked out for it.
>>533810985in every single meaningful way, down to every last word, syllable and vocabulary of our government, the likud party is 100% the ruling body, totally usurped trump in every way
>>533811032can you drop the nonsense? china got enougher oil for I think 9-12 month or somethingmore than everybody else but not enough to survive a total supply shut down further russia can not make up for the shortfall, it is not enough siple as
>>533810805I don't think so. Chinks are very diversified in their energy. They are also very capable, as has been demonstrated, and obviously aren't built of fake fintec and junk weapons the mic shits out.
>>533810918Right, but there isn't actually a blockade at all.The US isn't taking action against the ships still transiting the strait, despite the so-called "blockade".Even if they did have a real blockade, all it does is piss off everyone even more. Iran doesn't have to worry about anything if they're not under attack.5 decades of resilience isn't gonna vaporize just because one or two tankers get pirated from them, especially when they're reciprocating with the armada just floating around in the Persian Gulf at the moment.It'll probably just become 6 or 7 decades of resilience.Which is why they have to do something aggressive, and the sooner the better.Obviously that wont work out for numerous reasons, but every other option is so poor it's completely untenable, as you say. But even the current strategy is awful.There's only bad or worse, and so thus, "zugzwang".
>>533811057Not always, but that wouldn't necessarily be up to them.
>>533811099>The only support ukraine got was money which apparently can prolong a conflict but not end it.ukraine got the 50 year totality of natos state of the art equipment and the pooled totality of 40+nations GDP to fight Russia and still got annihilatedwhat the absolute NIGGER FUCK are you talking about?
>>533810948China must be begging iran behind doors to open the strait, but tehran position will remains strong, and there is nothing they can do to Open it, unless their demands are met
>>533811156the US blockade is not in the strait but in the gulf of oman
>>533811110>can you drop the nonsense? china got enougher oil for I think 9-12 month or somethingit has twice that, and with Russian/(other) oil sources it can completely outlast the entire Trump administration. the end
>>533811100Indeed.
>>533811156aint no way this nigga thinks this omega spacing looks good
>>533806323TKD, nothing less
>>533811199and doesn't actually block either btw
>>533811195Doubt
>>533808380RARE FLAG
>>533811212yes china can outlast the remaining 9-12 month of the trump administration (should trump stage powerplant day)
>>533811193All this top-tier NATO equipment is supposed to be handled by people trained for their roles. It's also all supposed to be deployed in tandem, for overlapping areas of cover. Pic related.You never field tanks without infantry screening them... unless you're Ukraine and retarded because you got those tanks for free.If I gave you a patriot missile defense system it wouldn't defend you against feral niggers. Same shit. Of course Russia stomped them, it's just a big money bonfire.
>>533811195China isnt begging anything and its watching the US play Russian roulette with itself, having already shot off some number of fingers and toes as some kind of >"wow hes really crazy and might do it this time!"demonstrationall China has to do is "nothing" eat Russian oil (who no longer is burdened with selling it to europe too) and wait out the trump adminits simple chess, when trump is playing nigger checkers where you flip the game board over everytime is black piece gets jumped (then you pick it all up and start where you left of 2 weeks later)
>>533811193thisukraine is pretty much NATO at its peak power.real NATO soilders will never be as motivated (well at least pre shortage and bussification) and nationalistic as them.and when they use NATO arms, NATO funding, NATO training and NATO intelligence there is virtually no difference between them and the NATO army.
>>533811232I admit my mistake with that post, I didn't read it with the reply-box expanded. My bad.
>>533811261I've seen rarer
>>533811284its not the training retarded, the entire NATO structure just crumbled when faced with the new paradigm of ground war in ukraine
>>533808991>men in women's sportsThe one thing you give him credit for is a problem that negatively affects maybe a few hundred Americans, tops. Meanwhile he says out of his fat greasy mouth, on the record, that 'affordability is a hoax', and, 'nobody gives a shit about housing'. The success and failure of Donald Trump will be studied for generations.
>>533811099Theres western media seething at China cleaning its air too quickly, you will never redeem yourself, retard, keep trying.
>>533811300>ukraine is pretty much NATO at its peak power.nah, doesn't have the air component due to russias nuclear umbrella while russia can lob glide bombs to extend far beyond artillery range massively
>>533811156they're turning ships away after they pass Hormuz and they're seizing at least some of them in indian ocean.They obviously can not 100% implement the blockade, even in venezuela there were ships who went through and out.Now with third carrier arriving they have more resources to seize more ships. Next actual escalation is going to be the attack on boats like Trump promised, blowing them up. Again the goal is not just defeat Iran but to hurt China and disrupt the oil supply for them, I already posted about this.
>>533811284So not only is NATO equipment extremely niche and designed for last decade's war but the thousand of high ranking trainers they've sent can't teach someone how to utilise it effectively in the modern. Day?
>>533811180there is not going to be a fire exchange between the two ever, if Chinese will use ships to defend US will back down.There is an option that US is trying to stretch the chinese navy away from Taiwan strait too.
>>533811278>yes china can outlast the remaining 9-12 month of the trump administration (should trump stage powerplant day)humanitarian catastrophe in Iran or not, China can make it all the way to the next administration, with no problem.Russia no longer has to bother selling europe its energy...it can go full China-first and its a done deal>>533811284yah, ukraine was a retard rabid pitbull nation who were uniquely conditioned to be willing suicide slaves for nato. its almost surreal how willing ukrainians were to die horrendously for female european know-nothing politicians..history will write on it for decades after the last ukrainian male dies to an FPV drone somewhere in donetsk
>>533811372its NATO crews operating the stuff on the down low too, not just "trainers"
>>533811339Russia also managed a great surprise attack. If they had fielded more troops with lead bullets instead of rubber bullets they would have likely captured Kiev on that famous third day but it would have been a bloody occupation. I think a whole legion of Russian troops were ready for riot control in Kiev but that was just playing slightly too greedy.>>533811367Media is in government's pocket and you're just playing into their eternal panic they want you in.>>533811372Probably brain rot.
>>533811257No, when china is asking for peace(let me make profits in peace and get my oil from the gulf)
>>533809286>He was unremarkable >Remarks upon him Curious...
>>533811416you are a chinese nationalist to talk this sunny about the GCC cut from chinese inventory for yearssurvival which china can do and staying off catastrophic and emergency measures (which china can't do)
>>533811370ukraine got every single possible nato asset except for the 'redline' that would force Russia to have to decapitate europes ability to wage warin any case, ukraine was essentially nato-unbridled and they lost so bad its almost unreal
>>533811421What about the tens of thousands of native NATO "mercenaries" that have been getting whacked crewing it all? For the hohols? Just packs of niggers?
>>533811441got me nigga
>>533811372>can't teach someoneWell, they are trying to teach hohols, so... you can imagine.
>>533811494Can't teach, can't crew, can't fight. So what's the point of NATO?
>>533811477the US is strongest in the air then followed on the oceans, both totally out of the picture
>>533809779he's sleepy today >>533811310
>>533811532Couldn't tell ya
>>533811412>There is an option that US is trying to stretch the chinese navy away from Taiwan strait toowhich is retarded because china is never going to try to size taiwan military, reunification was always inevitable and especially now when the US is throwing all of its international credibility away for israel.
>>533811477>ukraine got every single possible nato asset And yet cucktin never launched attacks against NATO in europe
>>533811339>the entire NATO structureWasn't deployed to Ukraine. Not that's it's necessarily wonderful, but it's not fair to judge a force structured around air power and maneuver by how well their tanks do in trench warfare supported by old soviet jets and some F-16s.
>>533811371Once they actually start doing that, it's just a straight hot war again, which will actually stop oil flow. I believe that Iran would retaliate by striking US assets in the region, whether that be the boats, the remaining presences in the gulf, oil refineries and desalination plants, or Israel.And China may indeed give some under the pressure the US is putting on them, but in the long term this pressure is unsustainable, and that's just how long China needs to withstand it.
>>533811479I've seen these statistics, I don't know about NATO mercenaries. The whole Ukraine war from my perspective just looks like Zelensky and his fellow Jew barons lining their pockets with American money. Russia always wants defensible borders. If they don't have a buffer state then they'll want something geographical like a mountain range, or in Ukraine's case the Dneiper.Big nations need big borders. The USA would know this except they have only oceans and allies around it.
So when this kicks off again, will it be True Promise 5 or a continuation of True Promise 4?
>>533806323The ultimate law of the world is that nothing ever happens.In November, Trump becomes a lame duck and in 2029 he's gone entirely and replaced with another Obama and things simply return to status quo ante bellum. Talk of Europe and NATO allies abandoning the US is dumb when all they have to do is wait a couple years at most for things to return as they were.
>>533811543>the US is strongest in the air then followed on the oceans, both totally out of the pictureon paper maybebut the reality is, neither of those capabilities are able to achieve stated objectives anymore...its not 1990its been nearly 40 years the last time bum-rushing a country with muh stealth jets was capable of producing anything approaching 'victory'
>>533811624the US and UK picked that fight now we are saddled with it and yes it was retarded
>>533811370Our f35 was shot down by temu rockets and we we're so brafely certain of its capabilities we weren't in low altitude orbit registering but a ping pong on radar, we were so low the temu rocket with 15 mile range locked on, caught up, and hit the stealth. Our jdams were gps blocked and rendered less then useless, a complete liability. The high tech race was won by chinks, chink drones, temu rockets, and Russians, who's ew is very real, and thanks for the experience, also they actually have AD and not meme wunderwaffe like patriot and nasam.
strait status?
>>533810860>evidence suggesting a unified front.sure there is.i mean you have proofs of that right?
>>533811638they just repeated they're going to do this.Dunno about China
>>533811686True Promise 4: Part 2, electric boogaloo
>>533811617>And yet cucktin never launched attacks against NATO in europeGood thing Putin was israel, or else there would be humanitarian catastrophe all across europe.dead babies and women everywhereevery civilian atrocity imaginable against every soft-target of opportunity it could locate
>>533811686More TACOing and cannot claim victory either as long as the strait is closed
>>533811700>nothing ever happensthats because the internet is a failed experiment and all internet addicts are destined to die as tehy stare at their screen waiting for happenings. all men taste death but very few taste life... im just here to enjoy watching you all die
>>533808460I ended up watching the whole saga, excited for EP4.Very comfy.
>>533811732US airpower is pretty effective, the UK with asymetric warfare ruined the russian blacksea fleet for whatever that is good for
>>533811736The Ayatollbooth is in full effect.>>533811749Iran isn't even laying mines, it doesn't make sense for them to do so unless unfriendly ships are actively trying to cross it. This is just a "guise we're winnin!!!!!" order.
>>533811761Iran didn't cause a catastrophe all across the middle east when they retaliated against american bases
>>533811721You picked it, dipshit. If the US controlled EU trade policy we wouldn't have had a trade war.
>>533811747>Nioh BergCome on now
>>533811814did you miss this?>shoot and kill boats amid ceasefire
>>533811749>shoot enemy ships>ceasefire
>>533811284of course we sent all of our weapons to be humiliated on world stage, of course we admitted to running the entire thing, yes of course we even clarified it's a proxy war, yes the entire benefit was to watch them burn, that and to show just how sophisticated a thermobaric hipershovel and all in one problem fixer it is, literally russhits come born with them.
>>533811829>You picked ityeah no, remember "fuck the EU", project ukraine is UK and USwe got our own dipshits (like they are all over the loser prince, syria, erbil and were over the boxxer in ukraine)
ill bake again if no one does around 305
>>533811878What am I looking at here?
>>533811867>ordered to gun down any speedboats suspected of laying minesYep. I read it. I also said it doesn't make sense for the Iranians to mine the strait, nor do I recall anything from Iran saying they've mined the strait, that they're mining the strait, or that they plan to imminently mine the strait, which are all things they'd publicly announce because they want to control flow there instead of stopping it.So in effect this order is just for media outlets to go "we have such overwhelming dominance that we're gunning down their mining boats!!!!!" when there aren't any.
>>533811841fair call.
>>533811995Yes it is a total bogus but I mean, both president and defense minister said they will do this, they want videos of boats blowing up etc.
>>533811878From what I know, all hearsay you see, the USA intel community expected Ukraine to fall in the first few hours of Russia's attack. The fact that they held on at all astounded them. The USA was on the back foot and was willing to throw heaps of money at Ukraine because money you see is infinite and land is very finite. The USA geopolitical strategy is to clearly isolate and break up any Eurasian powers that emerge. Ukraine has been a client state of the USA since 2014 which apparently threatened Russia enough to commit to the big war.Besides, the USA is happy to just make weapons and incinerate them since the military industrial complex is in big business.These old graphics will have to be shamefully updated
>>533811732>locked onThere was no lock on. The missile was command guided from the ground by a guy with a thermal camera. It's less effective than automatic guidance and the f35 made it back to base because that missile mostly missed.
>>533812066yeah I don't dispute that at all. they really want something they can use to spin into a win for the USA.
>>533812070the US never thought russia would attack and build up ukrainian fortification for nearly a decade enabled by destroying german and french diplomatic credibillity for a century by raping the minsk accord then making hollande and merkel fall on their own sword and claim it was all a ruse from the start
>>533811784Stare at your screen and wait, loser
>>533811811No, if air power was effective we wouldn't be shot down by temu rocket, retard. If airpower wasn't a meme, they're be dropping dumb bombsvon Iran as we speak, retarded kraut. You are so retarded you go into "they destroyed the black sea fleet" well, not destroyed, "ruinet" because that will change the temu rocket owning worlds most advanced spaceforcerism ever.
>>533812164lindsay graham told ukraine on the ground that next year would be the year of offense and that they would seize crimea soon
>>533812173im just as dead as the rest of you but i admit it. notice how i at least support northern european genes by support israel though
>>533812181the airpower is effective in destroying conventional military assets which russia does need
>>533811989the International Collegiate Programming Contest, oldest of its kind.
Theres a rule about chug/uhg discussion itt...
>>533811916No, you started it. Yanukovych didn't back out of a trade deal with us.
>>533812191Everything is coming at a big cost
>>533812150that's why I said its going to be escalation but I'm not sure if it will restart all out war. Most likely US ship will be targeted or they will try to hit the drones that are doing attacks, i don't know.
>>533811819>Iran didn't cause a catastrophe all across the middle east when they retaliated against american basesi know that...meant >"Putin wasnt israel"Putin didnt do any collective punishment campaigns against euro's despite the fact euro governments were behaving in ways that absolutely warranted them
>38 posts by this IDNot a single reply except for self replies.
>>533812129the plane was on fire retard, it was ON INFRARED/THERMAL BRIGHT WHITE LIKE THE EXHAUST BUT EVEN LONGER AND BIGGER, RETARD. The pilot, who's name is nkt released still, "suffered shrapnel wounds". That means the cockpit was compromised. This plane cannot fly in ANY incremental weather, even dust, it cannot do rain especially, grounding issues, it cant even regularly fly without crashing in a fireball, as this happened DOZENS OF TIMES, the plane functions entirely by electronic controls, but the cockpit being compromised was a stroke of luck. No you can't see pictures of either.
>>533811598US can always stir shit up inside taiwan like they did in ukraine. Finance some protests, start shooting in a crowd, that kind of thing.
>>5338119952 mine laying ships have already hit their own mines. At least one, possibly 2 other civilian ships have been hit by mines as well. The Iranians didn't anchor them so they are just randomly floating around now.
>>533812517source? first time I've ever heard of a ship getting hit by mines this entire war
>>533810028It is astonishing that whatever "antisemitic conspiracies" that was allegedly cooked by chuds on 4chan 5 years ago is now a topic of discussion among the normie media.
>>533812218Russia is using its airpower exactly how we would, as artillery support, not as nato envisioned, trained and promised, because that is a meme, look at Iran, we can't even trust our own stealth tech, so we fly 'under the radar' unironically in primo range of temu rockets. Temu rockets which trumps our air farce and the entire retard ideation lf airforce dominance. Air force is a meme, da fuck we in indefinite cisfire if we could just be bombing Iran nonstop with cheap, effective, dumb bombs?
>>533812552there was a jap oil tanker which got hit by an iranian mime that magneted its way to it... somehow before this war. the ship was fine because it was double hulled
