Why do Americans care more about individualism than the collective good?
Whenever anyone talks about the collective good it's always just an excuse for they need to oppress or brutalize someone somehow.Every single time.
>>533809369>take the heckin vax its for the greater good!!!
>>533809369Because "collective good" is usually an excuse for either taxpayer theft, or trampling more of our rights.I genuinely think public school is responsible for 90% of young leftist's naivety.
>>533809369Jews >>533809509Nigger
>>533809369Why would I care about the collective good of>Single mothers>Niggers>Illegal immigrants>Low IQ third worlders>Rabid Feminist harpies>Fucking JewsWhy? Collectivism only works in high IQ, ethnically homogeneous, high trust societies, precisely like Japan.
>>533809369Because the collective includes niggers, spics, chinks, indians, jeets, and the welsh.Going it alone is the better option.
>>533809725Unbelievably based goblin-chan
>>533809369It all depends on whether they were raised to be disciplined or raised to be low maintenance.Kids that were conditioned to only show happiness end up being one of the most corrupt adults ever.
>>533809369Collectivism is a low IQ trait. Intelligent people have the ability to question conformity and think outside the box, dumbasses just follow the leader like sheep and do whatever the guy in the special hat tells them to do.This is why the most prosperous high IQ places in the world are more individualistic while the most collectivist are low IQ shitholes that everyone tries to escape from.
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>>533809756>and the welshAngloid detected
Two people giving zero thought fuck for five minutes. Sperm hits egg. Here comes baby they didn't plan for and did nothing to make sure they or child are secure. Just nasty fucking and cumming, brainless. And you want me to huddle with those masses. Human mammals wrought from those with zero emotional quotient and very low intelligence quotient making replicas for generations. That sounds like a plan to you to hang out with hordes of these humans. If that's so great why is garbage everywhere and people living on the sidewalk. Go scoop a few up pick up garbage together and take them to your place. Repeat. Shove them in every corner of your house and rent a passenger bus and take them out on daily field trips to improve society for others. Report back. A poor man can't do nothing for you- come dealer. True words.
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>>533809369No one knows what the collective good is. Those who think they do turn out to be wrong as often as not.
I too care about having iced coffee, homemade and proper kind more than collective good!I am not particularly invested in caring for pakijeets good per say.
>>533809369You seem to think that America isn’t a soulless economic zone
>>533809725Who let this joshi in my /pol/ thread?
>>533809369Because the collective good is corrupt and its only good for jews and elites
Meme malware. that's all it is. Just go nosedive into the libertarian community to see what's up. These are generally intelligent people and they are still stuck, in a 20 year boot loop, of "collectivism is WhAt tHe LeFt DoEs?!?!" Goddamn retards. Then they have to square with that New Hampshire project they have going on.
>>533809725(Don't get me wrong, it's based af)
>>533809725why are Japanese and Korean women whiter with larger breasts though?is it from colonialism? Did Europeans breed them hotter? I like to think so. Is that individualist? s-sorry, I mean all light skinned, large breasted Asians are hotter
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>>533809725Isn't this circular reasoning?If the US was more collectivist 40 years ago you wouldn't be in this shit now
Right now I had fancy smool snacks, best fluffy cream puffs and stuffs.Coffee, sparkling water, chilling in the dark in the most compfy place ever. Thinking about my own comfort, enjoying myself, and trolling here while doing stuff.Collective is only interesting to me as far as it can entertain me, the circus must flow. And it better be good.
>>533809509>>533810235how dare you insult Hitler like this
>>533809369Same girl
>>533809369You know you can care about individualism while also having a cohesive culture (America up to about 2014 when progressive bullshit stopped getting pushed back against). If the base ideals of your country are good and strong then individualism can help easily uphold them. It's laziness (a lack of vigilance) that causes things to fall.
>>533809369Individualism is ideally workable in a high trust homogenous society.Collectivism is better if you're trying to correct for said low trust diverse society when you're trying to fix it. The former is best for when a society is made up of people that can more or less govern themselves autonomously.
>>533809369if the collective is evil and retarded you don't care for it's good
>>533809369Doesn't really matter. We have no real control over anything. It's all a farce.
>>533809756Going alone get's you and your offspring kicked out at the house at the age of 18 into a merciless jungle. Collectivism gets you multi-generational households to weather the storm.
>>533810275Sure, but that's not what did the US in specifically. US citizenry got lazy and stopped being culturally vigilant because of how good things were, which let progressive jewishness seep into every nook and cranny. Then it took a damn decade of the fallout from such laziness to wake people back up. Individualism can hold up a unified country just fine. You just can't get lazy since individualism means snakes can more easily sneak in.
>>533809725Those spaghetti bangs are the ugliest shit I've ever seen in my life, even worse than a nigger's nappy hair. If you find that attractive, you seriously need to be euthanized.
>>533810275No, that's circular reasoning
>>533809725>Why would I careYou SHOULD because it's a stabilizing effect, which directly benefits YOU and your pursuits.retard>inb4 "we tried that dummy..it failed"No. There's never been a serious, comprehensive and well-designed framework fleshed out, to rehabilitate the downtrodden in AmericaOf course not, since the JEWS created the very condition.
>>533809369A strong, capable and cohesive collective. Comes about when the individual is strong and capablewhen society engineers this backwards you breed entitlement and criminality, because accountability is removed everything becomes society's faultnot your fault
>>533809369hmm is almost like I don't give a shit about making other people's life better unless I get payed for.it's not just the americans
>>533810598She's a pro-wrestler, we take what we can get
>>533809369They torture me
>>533809369What’s their problem?
>>533809369Cuz NIGGERS Another Friday night with no comfy threads? Sigh, guess I'm gonna get drunk and play with my dog
>>533809509>>533809648This.Collective good usually means 996'ing for a ((billionaire)) for low salary and no freedoms until you can't take it anymore and seppuku out the window only to be caught by a net and be forced to 996 again the next day or your family in the village loses all their social credits.
>>533809900>while the most collectivist are low IQ Japan is extremely collectivist. Is Japan low IQ?
>>533809369Because neoliberalism turned them into atomized retards with zero sense of civic ambition. They'd rather try to eek out some pathetic consumer drone existence on their "own" (actually enabled by the generations of hard, collective effort of their ancestors, which they undeservedly inherited and are now squandering mindlessly), than work together to create an actually cohesive and coherent society. People will say shit like "collectivism is oppreshun!" or "because the collective includes niggers", but that's just because they're very retarded and don't realize individualism is what enabled the flood of niggers/foreigners into the country, the complete jewification of economics, the "suffrage" of women, etc. Any collectivist society would have opposed every single major problem at the foundation because it's obvious flooding your country with niggers is bad for the collective, letting women choose OF or careerism over fertility is bad for the collective, etc. But, it's not bad for jews and "individualists", so guess what happened? Our society was eroded because "why do you care if it doesn't affect you? My life is fine" became the prevailing mindset across every major demographic in this shithole continent and much of the rest of the western world.
it predates socialism so it doesn't need socialism
>>533812210I take it you're not a fan of Ayn Rand.
There's nothing good about humanity. Freak monsters that need to be destroyed in the worst way imaginable. Only then will God return to earth.
>>533812147Yeah, the "collectivism = low IQ" is the biggest midwit projection nonsense imaginable. It actually takes a higher IQ to realize, "Hey maybe my personal individual hedonistic whims aren't more important than the preservation of our entire culture and race". There's nothing high IQ about neoliberals and lolbertarians ransacking the coffers of our civilizations and partying while the ship sinks. It's just late imperial decadent retardation masquerading as enlightenment.
>>533812210What you really mean is a highly social culture, a culture where neighbors still talk to each other, families and extended families have unbreakable bonds, marriages are sacrosanct, and friendships are true and meaningful.A lot of societies that describe themselves as collectivist (like Japan, SK, and increasingly, China) are nothing like this. What seems like collectivism in those societies is actually widespread subscription to some ethno-nationalist myth (usually a myth of exceptionalism). This is not the same thing as collectivism.>but that's just because they're very retarded and don't realize individualism is what enabled the flood of niggers/foreigners into the country, the complete jewification of economics100% correct. A highly social culture would never allow their birth rate to drop requiring the mass importation of outsiders. Intact social structures would facilitate courtship, marriage, and child-rearing. Yet we see birth rate declines in Japan, SK, China etc indicating that they're not actually collectivist.
>>533811842This
>>533809934Gay
Just chiming in to say that there's a reason Juden Peterson was so anti-collectivist. It's easier to undermine the host population when they're atomized.
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>>533809369America was never built for collectivism. America is huge, each state is like its own country, different religions, way too many different races living there... Even the government the way it was built with 3 different branches, each with equal power.Collectivism require everyone to be the same, think the same, believe the same, only 1 government not 3... America cannot and will never be socialist or communist. You'd have to destroy the whole thing first and start from the beginning.
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>>533810395Qute
>zainichi Korean posters with Japan flagThey create threads that tarnish Japan's image, and declare that Koreans won based on far-fetched reasons.>Chinese posters with non-China flagThey say China is amazing and declare that it has defeated America.
>>533809369They are divided. Completely and fully. Cattle being told that each individual matters while their are being farmed for fleece. And it was done so easily that even those who get the wind of it, will just spam "it's the jews" and "it's the niggers", not realising this kind of realisation is fully integrated into the entire process.
>>533809369It's called pride. What kind of fag wants to be collectivized
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>>533809369Bugs are individualists too, but only at the level of the ruling elite.There is not one single conscientious, pro-social minded politician or richfag (in any country).>>533812321It's extremely low IQ, literal peasant slave shit. You are misattributing a fundamental nature of slavish obsequiousness to authority and power with some sort of notion of cooperation. That is not what is happening.
>>533809369Individualism is the collective good, the horde or NPCs just can't perceive how; and even if it wasn't, individual liberty is transcendently paramount and non-negotiable save only for unto God. Go back to preddit.
>>533809725Too bad no nipponese will want to fuck your gaijin ass
>>533818293>Bugs
>>533809369define collective good
>>533809369Who knows, who cares. I'm just here for the cutie pie Japan girls.
>>533809369>Why do Americans care more about individualism than the collective good?Because Americans are Lazy, Stupid, and Apathetic BUMBS.Cannot have any social welfare programs without them getting abused to hell.Case in point is pic related.
>>533818567>Who knows, who cares. I'm just here for the cutie pie Japan girls.
>>533809369See >>533809509 we as a nation centralized our identity on fighting communism with a history built on not trusting government itself. We don't and won't trust anything, we know we are goyim but at least that knowledge prepares us for a world where it is lucky if our own parents care for us. Absolute power corrupts, absolutely. Or something like that
>>533809369It's not even an American issueIt's the world.Besides, lead by example. Leaders never do shit for the collective good of the citizens anyway. It trickles down to the commoners.
>>533818657>Boomer detected
