https://ktla.com/news/local-news/annenberg-wildlife-crossing-opening-date
>>533817256don't broadcast things like this or someone's gonna destroy it.
>>533817256>wildlife crossing areaAka>dedicated prey kill zone The people who live right there are gonna be pissed when mountain lions decide to set up camp right at the end of the prey funnel. Also imagine the state spending $110 million dollars just to build a wildlife crossing that makes it easier for animals to fuck with your trash cans lol. They really couldn't find a better place for this thing? Why the hell does it open up right in between two neighborhoods?
these were all over germany on the autobahns in 2000
>>533817647Are they not now? What happened to them?
>>533817716they built more apparently since they dont make the autobahns into lane slop like california
>>533817716I put them all in my ass.
This thing cost $114M
>>533817516Are you fucking stupid? Those are made mostly for smaller animals
>>533817788germany built 80 of them since 2005 and no way they spent that kind of money on each one
>>533817716they're all up and well
>>533817256frankly i dont see a reason to oppose this
>>533817807>Are you fucking stupid? Those are made mostly for smaller animalsI refuse to believe you have these in Poland, and these will be used by predators to eat dogs and cats.Small animals aren't going to know or attempt to cross there.
>>533817820When you have 80 of something, it probably can be a lot simpler smaller design than when you have to do everything with just 1 of something.
>>533817807To be fair this is the world's largest, I don't know much about such crossings but in my mind a larger crossing would attract larger animals and their predators. I expect pitbulls roaming the perimeter catching cats and small dogs
>>533817256I'd set up a homeless encampment and tap into the overpasses electric.The State of California would never kick me out.Could just be my own 100 million dollar property.
>>533818108those cars need more space bro just run everything over pave down every valley in the country make sure there are no ways for animals to live because they should cower in fear of machines
>>533817820You don't understand how good Newsome is at burning tax money. It was probably more than that.
>>533817516Studies from Banff showed predators do not use the wildlife crossings as kill zone because they are deterred by the noise of the highway moreso than prey species that use the crossing.And it's built there because that's where the animals have been crossing for centuries and continue to use this small corridor between the mcmansions. You're not going spend 5 million building a bridge if it's not going to be used.
>>533818108Thats several millions of dollars. But yeah, I'm just cherry picking.
>>533818431>You're not going spend 5 million building a bridge if it's not going to be usedArticle says $114M spent between an undisclosed mix of private and tax funded spending
Cougar attacks are going to be lulzy from this.
>>533817256>we desperately need a patch of desert no matter what
The only thing green about these green initiatives is the money these grifters steal from the tax payers.I'm sure the homeless in California are thrilled about this idiocy, I hope they turn it into a homeless camp.
>>533818569Well that's just fucking red tape and capitalistic greed at its finest. The environmental monitoring and wildlife studies would've been dirt cheap because there's probably a long history of animal movement in the area on top of open source data. The construction may be a bit more because it's California and has earthquakes but wouldn't have the same structural load requirements as a regular overpass. The I-25 one which was the previous biggest at crossing 6 lanes was 15 million according to google so this plain Cali corruption. For a state that prides itself on its hippy, peace and love culture, they are still the same greedy fucks like back in the gold rush and oil rush days.
>>533817256Whole northern europe is full of these, every single one cost around 50k-150k to build. I really cant understand how anyone could spend 114 million for one of these.
>>533818569>$114mlol. lmao even. at this point you are way less efficient than the germans even. the whole construction couldn't have cost more than 10 million (including planning and permits), the rest is just fraud.unfortunate that wildlife preservation in the US is mostly just fraud because these things are mostly a good thing.
>>533818250In Finland you have dozens of these, pretty much same size. Usually they are two giant short tunnel arcs together with flat top. It cost fraction to build those if compared to that californian one. Not even half million. They are good, accidents on highway are pretty much zero these days, when there used to be atleast one Inna month someone cruising 120 km/h to grown up moose.
>>533819007California is an unbelievable joke. You should check out the high speed rail that they were supposed to have built by 2020. $126B if they ever even finish it.
>>533817807Do the large predators know that? Are you going to tell the large predators that they can't camp the prey chokepoint because it is only for the small animals?
>>533819033let's try to break the cost down>planning and permits$0.5-1 million>excavation and foundations$2-3 million>concrete work including rebar and formwork$4-5 million>waterproofing and drainage$0.5 million>landscaping$1-1.5 millionso at most around $11 million.lets assume some unforeseen ground/weather conditions and raise it to $15 million and lets assume retarded planners and additional costs and double that, so $30 million (already egregious), where did the other $84 million go?
>>533819293It's probably because of the eminent domain required to acquire the property.
How are they even sure animals will use it ?
>>533819344the trick is that you build these every 10-20 miles. of course at this price tag completely unfeasible. at 114 million you could build 10 of these at increasing efficiency due to experience, but fraudsters are not interested in that.
>>533819507>where did the other $84 million go?Cool it with the antisemitism
>>533817256Is this actually going to be useful? How far are animals going to travel in order to travel it, assuming they even realize it's there in the first place. This seems like a feel good project more than anything.
>>533819507You're forgetting that some jews will have to be paid off, it's america after all. Look at their military spending too, $1 TRILLION a year to maintain a relatively puny military and they lost the battle of the Epstein Strait to Iran anyway
>>533819762>you can't just use arches to use less concrete and steelthat's too efficient and smart goy
>>533817256lmao this is retarded. they're animals. they're fucking stupid they'll walk down the hill and cross the highway anyway
>>533817516>wildlife cross>right next to a villageOkay?
>>533819862Saar>>533819768Even landcrabs use dug crossings instead of walking across roads. Most animals except insects, Id say
>>533818250Also the contractors doing the work. In corrupt countries like the US it's an easy way to own money. Happens in the Netherlands too, to an extent, Germany most likely too. But the US is known for having crazy expensive projects done where some friend of the governor turns out to own the construction company.
>>533818108niggas just wanna be miserable about every good thing
>>533819528It's the legal battles. They have to fight tooth and nail for every inch of dirt.
Wouldnt it have just been cheaper to make the overpass the road? You get the exact same result.
>>533819528everyone wants to complain about eminent domain but our road infrastructure would be absolute dogshit without it
>>533820147Lots of animals can’t comprehend tunnels because they just see a dark hole and think it’s a cave with no exit at the end. The crossing has to be out in the open or they won’t use it.
>>533819768They build the crossings in areas where animals already cross naturally. I'm guessing a big chuck of the time and budget goes into the research. There was some mountain lion who crossed over into LA and it became poster boy of the whole operation.
>in the USA literal animals deserve better infrastructure than the human pedestrians
>>533820220In what fucking country or planet do you live in? Most small creatures actively dig and look for holes for shelter? In fact im struggling to think of an animal that doesn't make use of tunneling or burrowing and using holes/caves.
>>533820236Damn you are right maybe we should build overpasses for cars and pedestrians too.
>>533820147They make overpasses and underpasses. It probably depends on the terrain. I'm guessing it costs a lot more money if you have to drill through a bunch of stone.
>>533818431>You're not going spend 5 million building a bridge if it's not going to be usedIt's in California, Sukdikh.
>>533820220This anon knows what he's talking about. Also, as someone who worked on these types of ambiental projects, depending on the fauna, if you build a tunnel its a matter of time before a territorial animal sits its fat ass inside the tunnel and decides to make it his home, letting no one else pass through.
>>533820297Again, if an animal can’t see the end of the tunnel then it’s just a cave. If it’s trying to find a way to cross the road, it won’t take the cave as the first option. Stop being retarded.
>>533819293i don get it my man who the heck is going to SF if they are already in LA
>>533817256Nice wide open chokepoint for all the mountain lions, coyotes and hawks to get easy lunches
>>533817774Good quality post well done macaque connoisseur
>>533818282Absolutely, that will be a tent city inside a week. Yurofags have no idea how out of control LA is.
>>533818108There isn't, but there's a certain type of satanic retard that hates anything potentially positive
>>533817807eagles and hawks won't even have to touch it to scoop up bunnies and rats crossing it, and they'll widen out and start scooping up cats and small dogs once competition stiffens
>>533820756>>533818282>the socialist party is going to win the local LA council elections because normal democrats aren't retarded enough for themGenuinely hate californians
>>533820473Nobody, hence why it would be cheaper to fly them there for the next 200 years.
>>533818524So? I bet a regular bridge also costs several million dollars.
>>533818108wildlife like coyotes and mountain lions are a legitimate threat to children, pets, and livestock
>>533821031That's cougars for you.
Interesting to see the coordinated replies coming from all the "american" flags.
