>>533818316Oil is abiotic
>>533818316running out of oil would be a good thing. technological presence would be reduced 90% which is the ideal amount, we would revert to a wholesome agrarian society, there would still be some technology but it would be sparse. they would never be able to enact a worldwide technological enslavement matrix like they're trying to do right now.
>>533818316>peak oil>new technology smug faggot couldn't have anticipated blows out old peak>ignores new data and sticks to old modelmost of the green tech is not helpful at best, and a grift at worse, if people were serious about true alternatives to petrochemicals they'd look into biodiesel.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8jH1LIDHqk
>>533818316then why don't we just make more?
>>533818316We are net exporters of oil. Stop your FUD
>>533818632Like Scythe?
>>533818316oil is reformed continuously by the earth's crust, it will never go away
>>533818471i just took a shit and there was some oil in it??
Then why is the US rapidly becoming a petro state
Even if oil is regenerated by earth's forces we cant forsee how long that process takes since we are slurping the results of xyz years worth
>>533818316Technically this oil crisis is going to fall on japan's hands. The U.S has already prepared it as a scape goat. So technically the u.s is preparing to exterminate the Japanese & "Sea Chinks"; in a full scale genocide in order to get out of this situation unscathed. Why? Well they cant win at the Gulf of Oman nor the Persian Gulf. Don't join the navy... Kek
There's no such thing as peak oil. Just peak oil prices. Oil producers will always supply the demand in some way because people will buy it as long as it's not too expensive. Then people change their behaviors or consumption patterns and big oil doesn't want that. So they'll release strategic reserves, invade countries or exploit previously discovered and previously unprofitable sources like offshore and shale oil. Once the extraction becomes cheaper for unconventional methods, they'll flood the market to keep people buying. Technically feasible to convert coal or methane to oil but it's wasteful and expensive. For now
>>533819323oil exists in only a few specific locations, or countries rather. two of them refuse to pump or sell theirs (iran + venezuela) and iran is fucking with the gulf's too. whatever is left is in north america, and they might have dibs on venezuela's too. this still doesn't mean there is enough to go around for the entire planet.
>>533819655Biodiesel is also a thing
>>533819655>two of them refuse to pump or sell theirs (iran + venezuela)missed Russia, they cannot sell theirs so that's 3. if the oil stays in the ground it's as good as gone.
>>533818316I'm looking forward to making housewares the old fashioned way
>>533818316remember when u unironically believed oil was dinosaur juicewait you don't still believe it do uoh
>>533819694in a perfect world there are lots of alternatives, but that's probably not going to happen. there is oil, but we can't use it so it's useless. there could be gazillion barrels of oil under antartica but if you can't reach it it's useless. when industry was new and oil needs were less, oil sources were also spread out all over the world in many countries even if they had small amounts. at one time this country was an oil exporting state, now the countries left are less and less so it's concentrated in certain spots that are becoming increasingly hard to reach without war.
>>533819951>>533819655>>533819323If your country wasn't literally retarded you'd be using your oil too.
>>533818632I think Trump is trying to speedrun this
>>533820101America can frack North Dakota for oil because nobody lives there. if they had to frack New York or Los Angeles they would think twice about it. with that population density that's what fracking is like anywhere else. the conventional oil is pretty much sucked dry in Europe.
>>533818471what's the natural production rate in barrel/day
>>533819067Shitting vaseline doesn’t count faggot
>>533818316this time for sure
It's time to start drilling in Antarctica
>>533818632oil-maxxing is the new accelerationism
This is really dumb. Tight oil is shale oil. Alaska is fading to zero because we don't need it, shale is much more profitable and not in bum fuck Alaska.
>>533820197oil being abiotic implies there is almost infinitely much of it
>>533820182>if they had to frack New York or Los Angeles they would think twice about it.We already turned half of new york and most of pennsylvania upside down for coal. Pennsylvania was once one of our most populous states and at this point its just two dying 'cities' that are the population of midsized towns, and a bunch of octogenarians out in the mountains whose property will be consumed by the forest when they die
>>533818471>>533820490It's not magic so how much can Earth produce in barrels/day? It's not infinite, there's a number. I think the number is 0. What's your number?
>>533818471ThisIf you calculate the dinosaur and plant matter required to sustained million of barrels of crude oil per day for 80 odd years IT DOESNT MAKE SENSE quantity wise
>>533820101The smart thing to do, which you won't understand but I will say it for other people, is for a country to hoard as much of its finite / limited resources as possible, and force other countries to give up their resources first.What Trump is doing is raping his own country for short term profit for a microscopic number of billionaires at everyone else's expense for all future generations.
>>533820490>retards spreading retarded psy opgood job retard for showing the rest of the world your retardation
>>533818471>>533820883and so many of you ....note to non retards: this is another glownigger psy op
>>533819951nuclear and solar powered sabatier reaction using existing natural gas pipelines for distribution and hybrid vehicles with natural gas/methane tanks.Inputs: Electricity/heat + water, CO2Outputs: Heat + water, CO2checkmate.
>>533821178natural gas with modern ford/toyota hybrid tech would be very interesting if the home fill could be price competitive (i'm skeptical).
>>533821178sorry, Initial cycle inputs are: heat/electricity, water, carbon dioxide; reaction releases oxygen and methane.Secondary cycle inputs are methane and oxygen, reaction releases methane and water,it is a sustainable cycle, all you need are energy inputs to make the methane.
>>533820197Close to infinite in practical terms
>>533821314it would only make sense producing it with nuclear or solar....but for everyday commuting, combined with the natural gas distribution system that is already set up and in place, it would be a VERY practical next step for our global logistics infrastructure.Naturally, Military applications would still need fuels with more energy per mass (Jet1a) to remain competative in a "Thrust to weight ratio" style comparison....but for most civilian and maybe even commercial applications (Think cryogenic methane for long haul transports, combined with superconducting motor windings) it is entirely feasible.and since there is an intermediary storage product for the energy inputs, daily volatility of some renewable energy sources doesn't really matter. (I.E. what happens when the sun isn't shining; A: Build double the panels, and store the extra during the day as cryo methane)
>>533820490No the fuck it doesn't if oil is abiotic that means it took ~4 billion years to get the oil we do have. We wipe out billions of years of oil in a century.
>>533820101Oil is everywhere. Even my country has oil, but except for one pilot project the commies set up under the umbrella of national defense, they won't pump it, because the deposit is way too deep to be economical to pump, neither under commienomics nor capitalism. We have this solace that if Slovakia doesn't become a german-speaking nigger country in the next 100 years, our children might become judaic oil barons like Norway.Point is, oil is everywhere
>>533821314>>533821514also, there are certain high temperature fuel cells that run off of methane and oxygen and produce straight electricity.and they are typically 60% efficient or higher....a lot better than internal combustion's ~30%combined with some of the really powerful electric motors coming out in recent years... it's basically a win win.and since in order to MAKE the methane, you need a CO2 input, it's..... (bleagh...) CaRbOn NeUtRaL......
>>533820796The term 'fossil fuel' is a psyop.
>>533818316Oil is produced when carbon-rich material is exposed to high heat and pressure in subduction zones of the continental plates.Idk how the concept of 5 quintillion tons of plankton dropping to the bottom of the sea without being eaten or decaying and lying there undisturbed until it got covered by sedimentary layers every took off.
>1pbtiIt's yet another bot spam thread.Remember, we will run out of smartphones before oil.
>>533819020This, if crude oil is expired dinosaurs why do (((scientists))) claim there are hydrocarbons in other planets? Either those places were capable of sustaining life or oil isn’t made out of dead plants and animals. Either way someone’s bullshitting us
>>533821618the precursor reaction to the sabatier reaction is water electrolysis, which at a high enough temperature, doesn't require input electricity and can be run exclusively off of thermal energy... expelling oxygen and hydrogen.oxygen can be expelled into the atmosphere for later recovery by methane fuel cells of combustion engines, and the hydrogen funneled into the thermal process of the sabatier reaction.
>>533821782oil is from the carbon cycle, where carbon deposits remain in the ground, and eventually are subducted by tectonic processes to deep within the crust where high temperatures and high pressures turn it into a hydrocarbon soup.eventually some of it bubbles up through cracks into underground "oil wells"
>>533820215Kek that means he uses Vaseline as lubricant when he takes dick up his ass
>>533821871also water and other hydrogen bearing molecules.
>>533821706can't you pull the rare earths back out of the old phones?
>>533821685Clearly It made sense before we pumped trillions of liters of crude oil out of the ground, in specific places because fuck logic
>>533821908yes, but it cost more so line don't go up.
>>533818316Forget oil, mineable phosphate is the concern; once it runs out mass death through starvation will occur. Wheat is grown on marginal land, but without phosphate fertiliser it cannot.
>>533820750>Carbon is abundant throughout Earth’s mantle>Methane and simple hydrocarbons can form abiotically at high pressure and temperatureWhen you talk planets, the volumes get immense. Humans could never use it all.The planet Titan has ~1018 kg of methane.Earth could have 50 trillion barrels under the surface .. of which we have used 3% so far. The limiting factor is flow rate, not total molecules.
>>533822256Titan contains ~2,000,000,000,000,000 cubic metres of LNG‑equivalent methane.
Oil supply falls as the cheap wells dry upOil demand falls as renewables and EVs get cheaperSupply and demand both falling means prices stay the same
>>533818471No. According to my speculation on the coming micronova either you are hit by an impactor and instantly turn into nanodiamonds OR you get sallowed by the gigatsunami and you end up as Alaska muck. In other words yesterday's consumers turn into oil for tomorrow's consumers (or diamonds if your are lucky).https://malagabay.wordpress.com/2019/06/26/alaskan-muck-body-of-evidence/> abundant minute carbonized organic fragments> The rapid burial and fast freezing of specimens.> The abundance of shattered plants.> The disarticulated and broken skeletons.> Much of the skeletal remains from Alaska and Yukon were disarticulated and broken prior to freezing, and the rare preserved carcasses were often mangled and torn apart.> Impact-related microspherules in Late Pleistocene Alaskan and Yukon “muck” deposits signify RECURRENT episodes of catastrophic emplacement> the Stinking Hills> In the longer term these embarrassments will conveniently melt away and any memory of them will be labelled a “misconception”.> Even the most complete mummies show signs of significant internal damage> The almost instantaneous death of some specimens.> 36,000 year old Steppe Bison neck tissue is “tough” but “edible”.36000 = 12000 * 3YOU are the oil. Face it!
>>533822159don't we poop that out?
>>533822377I was thinking about that too BUT it's still not enough even if you account for all the plant matter Like pre-reset matter becomes the oil for the next iteration My opinion is that the Earth is a closed system btw
>>533822159as far as I know, there are no nuclear reactions in the biosphere that transmute elements as a part of it's biological operations... so where is all of that phosphorus going?
>>533818471>Oil is abioticthis is so retarded that it's debunked by ORGANIC chemistry 101
>>533822475of course my theory is absurd. But it is beautiful. And probably not that far from the truth once you remove the oil from the equation.AESTHETICS BITCHES. AN EPIC WIND BLOWING ON OUR NECKS.ALASCK-
>>533818471phew
oil IS abiotic...but it requires biological processes to affix it into the soil long enough for geological processes to turn it INTO oil....
>>533819655>oil exists in only a few specific locations,Oil is under the earth literally everywhere, dumbass. It's more easily accessible in certain locations.
>>533822559>Greek educationAbiotic processes can produce hydrocarbons, especially methane.
low IQ thread but here's a bump
>>533823750the thread is only low IQ if its contributors are only low IQ.step up your game.I have ENDED shill threads with a single red pill the shill who made the thread was trying to cover up.SKILL ISSUE.
>>533823750the reason that /pol/ is only "Ranked" as a low IQ board, is because of all of the dumb ass shills.This is a battlezone.WELCOME TO THE ASTRAL PLANE, BARBARIAN!
>>533819814What makes you think you'll be the one doing this rather than it happening to you?
>>533823610>let me tell you about your languagethat's not the same as saying oil is abiotic, retard
>>533818632based ,i will never be a wagie , i will farm turnips and have sex with a fat women
>>533824165>>533824456>>533824811do you want my help to win?Or do you want to argue?and let the jews win?
>>533818632>agrarian societiesbased
>>533823163This is true. Cambodia has offshore oil, but it's not economically viable being small pockets spread out over a large area. Britain has loads of oil, but you aren't allowed to do fracking.
>>533818632>meeting the boys at the local town square to greentext IRL
just read the book 'Titan' about Rockefeller getting into the oil business after discovery of Pennsylvania oil way back, he couldnt get any investors to fund his oil wells because they all thought it would soon dry up
>>533818316Oil is a renewable resource, produced in the earth.
>>533821547Source: Jewish media
