is it possible to have a good virtuous society with this level of technological development
>>533819944Yes, as long as you keep the jews out of it.
>>533819944The last time Nintendo was innovative was the DS.
>>533819944technology isn't the issue, psychopathy is the issue.
>>533820418why is that
>>533820733technology is just a tool, like a knife.a knife can be used to cut cord to build a structure, it can be used to cut that annoying tape on a box lid, it can be used to spread butter on your pancakes...but it can ALSO be used to shank a motherfucker. for self defense, say, against an animal, or a raving psychopath, this is a good thing...but psychopaths can turn basically any tool into a weapon of oppression.Ergo; tools aren't the problem, psychopathy is the problem.
>>533819944Progress is. Fire created problems. The wheel created problems. Agriculture created problems. Befriending dogs and cats created problems. Medicine created problems. Everything we humans have ever done has created problems and we try and rectify those problems by creating more problems.
>>533820916do you not think that certain uses of a tool are inevitable though, like there's always a degree of psychopathy which will exert itself by whichever means are technologically available
>>533819944The technology of today is backwards.Technology has devolved completely.
>>533821371>do you not think that certain uses of a tool are inevitable thoughyou are right.... we should find all animals and surgically remove any defense mechanism they posses.you big dummy.
No, even in the villages here everyones become a slave to the glowing rectangle. The youtube shorts i see these kids watching is genuinely grotesque stuff, grown men engaging in incomprehensible nonsense, retarded sfm videos, mishmashed audio of the latest songs, sped up into something like those old alvin and the chipmunk edits of 2009. Its a level brainrot that not even someone like david foster wallace could have forseen. >>533820916Knifes dont have millions of dollars of research poured into them to be as hyperpalatable as possible. Smartphones are an objectively good technology but we are using them in the most destructive way possible. What we should have done is make them more like those old winodws pdas, purely for communication and productivity not entertainment consumption.
>>533821371you are putting the orwellian state before the cart, so to speak.We should seek to curb psychopathy, not reduce humans to toolless animals.
>>533821941what>>533821979i think that total power is basically inevitable if the oligarchy has the technological means to achieve it
>>533819944Yes. Like most things just keep women out of it. The internet was fine until women swarmed it and made it ultra fuckin' gay.
>>533822153>i think that total power is basically inevitable if the oligarchy has the technological means to achieve itif you don't have the wherewithall to prevent such a thing from occuring, sure....but having an understanding of some of the specific cul-de-sac's of evolutionary psychology, one should surmise that psychopathy should be prevented from taking extended root, lest it end our civilization.so, as you can see... skill issue.
>>533819944Yes.No.
>>533822251tl;drIf you don't realize that the emergance of psychopathy is inevitable because of evolutionary psychology, then you will never even think to defend against it, and thus your civilization will perish to the greed and powerlust of the mentally deranged yet ruthless and cunning.
>>533822359i.e when the body controls the mind.when the reptile brain enslaves the mammalian brain.
>>533822393the average age of empires is 250 years...that's approximately how long it takes the psychopaths to metastasize and devour/koll the host.
>>533819944>technologyeven before technology people lazed around in bars, taverns, barns, etc.even before technology people turned to a life of crime or leading people on>possible to have a good virtuous societyYes and the best is yet to come, but first things will get worse in many ways. Many recognize certain behaviors aren't the best but go along with it because there's SOME fun to be had in the moment and their friends are fine with it. However, they often tone it down around others they care about who haven't picked up those habits, not wanting to pull them into the same lesser ways. This is what many who get to know me do around me. That's just me being me and people respecting that and recognizing there are better values to be had. So imagine if someone was purposefully trying to lead the way in cultivating better values, as well as having a platform where people could observe this intentional attempt to "lead through example".I even know girls who, despite so much of social media saying you can get away with using people, actually keep trying to improve because they want to find someone level-headed to have children with. I had never heard "shit test" used IRL until, completely unprompted or teased, this one girl I know had a moment of reflection, believing she needed to cull that habit if she ever wanted the good marriage she yearns for.Younger generations are seeing the consequences older ones are facing. The ugly that is left over after acting as though you are invincible. So pain and misery are factors here, yes. It's not that people are just inherently virtuous enough.
>>533822610unless you are aware of the process... AND FUCKING STOP THE FUCKING PROCESS.
>>533819944No, it's materialism.
>>533822682you don't need to believe in an afterlife to give a shit about your fellow sentient beings.that's in fact the entire point of god depending entirely upon faith.frank herbert was right with the gom jabbar.Humans are born animals, we must EARN our humanity by mastering our instincts.but that process doesn't require an all powerful god, because that would defeat the purpose of self mastery.
>>533822682that doesn't mean that there ISN'T a god... just that we can't rely on god to master ourselves.because then we would be nothing but a burden, wouldn't we?
>>533819944That would need overaching regulations on production, industry, money flow and wealth.But we don't do that under american-style free market capitalism. We don't want to accidentally "oppress" the holy employer.We prefer to bathe in their piss.
>>533822874>Humans are born animals.It's almost correct, humans are reasonable animals.
>>533819944>good virtuous society
>>533823137>It's almost correct, humans are reasonable animals.how many of them are reasonable?And for how long, and under what circumstances are they reasonable?Humanity is where the rising ape meets the falling angel.We aren't quite there yet.take a look at the average human, and then realize that half of humanity is dumber than that.(shoutout: G. Carlin)WEARENOTTHEREYETand our elites are farther away than most of us.because psychopaths only hire other psychopaths.
>>533823895Reasonable mean you can induce reason in them. You won't stop two retarded dogs to fuck each others, with humans you can.
>>533823990thank you for expressing my point so.... succinctly, english speaker.
>>533819944yesand it's possible to have a society just as messed up and degenerate as ours is without it.the issue, as always, is the people in power. and they always want to shift the blame. they might blame technology, problem/reaction/solution and then they take the tech from us, keep it for themselves, consolidate power.
>>533823990how many humans can still be swayed by empty emotional manipulation?is it your wife?is it your mom?
>>533819944the kitten seems jewish
>>533823990have you failed to be a man?so only the jews and muslims control your women, by sacrificing them to the lowest IQ males the jews can find on PLANET EARTH?!?!?!?!?!
>>533824790What are you talking about? What tech is being taken away? The opposite is true, we're all heading towards a technocratic hellhole. By 2040 it wont be possible to live without a smartphone and digital id/credit
>>533819944Nippon is doing alright, so yes?
>>533824886>the kitten seems jewishthe evil ALWAYS pretends to be the cutest thing ever, doesn't it?>SHE: Then how do we get close to you?!?!?!?!?!?>ME: "Go away">Woman: "We will make the republicans kill you if you don't reproduce!">Me: "Then you are culpable for the jews zersetzung-ing me my literal whole life"
>>533825083I have been tourtured since I was at LEAST 6 years old.they have used these tactics against me for almost 40 years.you are literally nothing.I can defeat you.With *MERE* memes.expressed to NOONE while alone.your move.
>>533824922digital id is taking tech away from us. consolidating it in their hands. you won't be able to read and post without it all being under your digital it. no longer free to use your tech on your terms because it won't be your tech, but theirs. they'll put restrictions on 3d printers. they'll let you have ai but with guardrails and surveillance. it would have been more accurate for me to say they're taking the control of tech away from us and onto themselves. they will have people begging for it, they will blame tech for problems and present the solution as seizing control of that tech from us.also they might have already taken tech from us that they themselves have and we don't even know about. also have you seen the price of ram lately, they're making tech unaffordable by buying it all up for themselves.computers get more powerful every year, at some point you have to expect they will feel challenged by that and seek to remove that from our hands. ban and regulate certain hardware and software etc.humanoid robots, are they going to let us have full control over that? doubtful. they will create problems and have the people beg them to take the robots away from the people.they have backdoored the absolute fuck out of every cpu already. thats your cpu, you bought it, they took over control of it in a way you would object to.cars are a technology. do you think we will still drive and own our own vehicles in the future? no, cars will drive themselves, they will own the cars. and with it they will control who is allowed to go where.
>>533825422I agree with you on that part, they want us all on locked down thin-clients that can basically only do everything via internet, like modern smartphones. Imo ram prices really shouldnt be an issue for everyone who doesnt game or do 3d rendering/simulations. You could write word docs, stream hd content, browse the web just fine on 4gb of ram in 2010. The problem is software bloat. Also didnt california and colorado already pass the operating system age verification bills? What you are warning about is already here. Ultimately, its in the hands of normalfags, none of this will be prevented unless they fight it, and in my experience none of them will cause of laziness or they dont even know whats going on.
>>533825142hino one will post after this to prevent my post from being in the catalogue....
>>533820090Thats bait
Bumping this thread
>>533822634The smartest psychopaths learn to hide their psychopathy though
>>533823990>he can't control two dogs
Bvmp
>>533830967>Bvmpit LOUDER>bvmp itLOUDER
>>533831015Black eyed peas?
>>533831463yep
>>533828498You can but once you turn you back they will continue to fuck each others. They are slaves of their instincts, they can't comprehend at what level this is wrong and bad unlike us.
>>533832117Basically you faggots are worst than dogs
