Some people have the idea that logic and spirituality are opposed to each other. They are brainwashed. Nothing is further from the truth.https://youtu.be/tLVA07_ISUk&t=36In this video Bashar says that you don't take to heart other people's negative opinion of you or negative attitude toward you if you know that it has nothing to do with you, and the only reason you would have a negative emotional response to the perceived attack at you is if some part of you is buying into it as being about you. The thing is when you hear this talk it leaves you with a sense of vagueness. That's because he's not giving the actual method to get to this insight. You don't just hear these few minutes of his talk and then it just clicks, there's a path and a method that has been discovered and then written down. I'm sure there are multiple facets of that path or that method, but one of those facets is logic.>If you really know what these fallacies are then you can be alert for them both in the statements of yourself and of others and if other people commit them you don't then have to rely just on an uneasy feeling that there's something wrong with what he said but you don't know specifically what. You can smile in the face of someone committing one of these fallacies. You can see clearly what it is and you can just look at him and say oh that's argumentum ad ignorantiam, that's petitio principii etchttps://youtu.be/U3Jm8zF7bJ8&t=113When you don't know whether there's something faulty about someone's argument or what exactly is faulty about it you are prone to take it personally, take it as an attack on you as a person. This is an ego response, which is the opposite of being spiritual. The more you study logic, the better you get at detaching ideas from yourself, holding ideas in a space that is outside of your ego, rather than constantly mingling ideas with the ego, which is what an unspiritual and unrefined mind does.
>>533833773sounds like a round about way of never having to listen to what anyone says to you about your behavior. i can imagine thats something you'd like very much,
>>533833997Who are you to tell me how to live?
>>533834076I am your father
>>533833997Like now for example, because I have studied logic I can read this post and know that it's ad hominem, subcategory psychologization, and hence utterly irrelevant and not an argument, and so just giggle to myself at the utter foolishness uttered by this ignorant uncultured pleb, who hasn't studied one page of logic in their life, and move on with my day.https://youtu.be/U3Jm8zF7bJ8?&t=2857
>>533834813criticism about your behavior can't be legitimately avoided by hiding behind logic, because ad hominem doesn't even factor in since theres no argument under discussion.thats my whole point - you like to try hiding behind all this logic you've been hate-posting about for many years as a way to avoid looking at yourself, and how nasty your character is.i can draw attention to your obsessive expressions of contempt and your irrational aggression all i want without violating any of your autistic ideas about logical argument.
Both Freemasons and Jews study grammar, logic and rhetoric.>The Masonic Winding Staircase is a central allegory in the Fellowcraft (second) degree, symbolizing a candidate's journey from ignorance to enlightenment. Consisting of 3, 5, and 7 steps, it represents the, ascent of a Mason’s mind, skills, and character, leading to the "Middle Chamber" of King Solomon's Temple to receive wages. >The steps are divided into three, five, and seven, often interpreted as:3 Steps: Alluding to the three principal officers (Master and Wardens).5 Steps: Representing the five orders of architecture and the five human senses.7 Steps: Representing the seven liberal arts and sciences (Grammar, Rhetoric, Logic, Arithmetic, Geometry, Music, Astronomy).The Winding Path: The stairs wind to represent that life is unpredictable; a mason cannot see what is around the corner, thus requiring faith and courage to continue upward.The Middle Chamber: Symbolizes the attainment of knowledge and moral wisdom, where the Mason receives his "wages"—intellectual and spiritual rewards.Biblical Reference: The story originates from I Kings 6:8, which mentions a winding stair leading to the middle chamber, though the elaborate ritualistic interpretation is largely allegorical. >The Winding Stairs focus heavily on the importance of education, self-improvement, and the development of the mind, with a particular emphasis on the science of geometry.
>>533835432Your picrel is right but even tho good discussion doesn't always happen you get to see the most extreme views of sides here. It's helpful just to gauge sentiment.Personally I'm a shitbag who is constantly criticizing my own behavior to the point it's likely unhealthy. But sometimes I am just being a shithead and need to change.
Some Freemasonic lodges have a staircase like this. Grammar, logic and rhetoric are printed on three of the steps. These subjects are considered necessary to learn to climb the stairway to enlightenment.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/vjdI7bs7k5Y
>>533836539i dont think its right, and the spirit with which swede anon always expresses it is definitely not right. thats the main thing. its always relentless condemnatory arrogance with this guy, and he's been doing the exact same routine for many years.you can go quickly look this up in 4plebs btw. it seems to have started for him in about 2018 or so where you see some posts about him getting into logic and grammar, which is fine, but then as the years go by you just see this descent into him being such a nasty and bitter hater of everyone, constantly, that it seems unhinged. its quite clear that he's unwell and has some deep need to keep trying to assert himself as being the biggest and best lover of learning while everyone else is a cancerous cockroach.look at those bizarre threads where he just posts up endless images from kids books in beginning languages screaming about how he hates anglos. its crazy shit.i find it a very sad example of how even being one who likes learning and logic can still be so irrational and emotionally distributed. ever learning but never able to come to a knowledge of the truth.
>>533833773The existence of logic is a suggested proof of the existence of god, since there would be no reason for a universe created by random chance to follow any specific laws, and laws of logic govern everything. The argument is that logic is the nature of god himself and as a result is the nature of the universe.
another lodge
Picrel, this Canadian homosexual/woman has an extremely weak mind. Can mods ban these off-topic spammers?
>>533837810you mean like posting your shitty whining threads all the time? maybe they should
If you google "winding staircase masonic" there are tons of pictures, videos and articles about it. You always see grammar, logic and rhetoric written on three on the steps.
There are also books about "the legend of the winding stairs".https://www.gutenberg.org/files/11937/11937-h/11937-h.htm#ch26https://youtu.be/IvYaOtciyfk&t=18430
>>533837997You're shitting up the thread. Either talk about the topic or fuck off and shoot yourself in the face, homosexual/woman. Don't post in my threads ever again, you're not welcome.
>>533838540you're thread is shit and doesn't belong on /pol/ at all. no matter how many beginners logic and grammar books you read, and no matter how much you want to boast that you learn languages not for practical reasons but for the 'higher' purpose of cultivating your mind, you will always be a nasty little pseud until you quit running away from looking at that, instead of trying to figure out pseudo intellectual methods of dismissing such criticism.
close-up of the winding staircase inside some masonic lodge
