>Gogol>Pushkin>Lermontov>Dostoevsky >Checkov>Tolstoy>BulgakovHow do Russians do it? How can they be the supreme masters of the literary arts?
>>533849765In the field of literature we really dwarf every other country for some reason
>>533849765Great literature is often borne out of suffering and the humility that comes from it, and Russia has long been a realm of misery.
>>533850158I guess it's because they applied serfdom late? While the West got rid of it the Russians were just starting.
>>533849765I never read that shit. Qrd?
>>533849765pushkins ancestor was a nigger lol
>Gogol>literally Hohol in the name>russianziggers aren’t sending their best….
>>533850702He also had some Swedish ancestors IIRC.>>533850808Come on now they are the same people. You think he didn't consider himself Russian?
>>533849765>Mini Russia loves Big RussiaThis is so cute
>>533850808Xoxols didn’t exist back then
Brits are better, french are better, awful slide thread
>>533851394even Americans are better>1. Herman Melville2. Walt Whitman3. William Faulkner4. Edgar Allan Poe5. Ralph Waldo Emerson6. Philip K. Dick7. Thomas Pynchon8. William Gaddis9. Cormac McCarthy10. DFW11. Kurt Vonnegut12. Nathaniel Hawthorne13. Henry David Thoreau14. John Steinbeck15. Ursula Le Guin16. Ezra Pound17. Frank Herbert18. Ernest Hemingway19. F. Scott Fitzgerald20. Truman Capote21. Mark Twain22. Don DeLillo23. Philip Roth24. Allen Ginsberg25. William Burroughs26. Jack Kerouac27. H.P. Lovecraft28. Charles Bukowski29. Hunter Thompson30. William Gibson
>>533850968Belter bros are just mad they have no literature
>>533851747Americans are top tier as well but only Melville is elder god tier. Bogurt Polak>Corncob at #9 Lmao
>>533850702>>533850808>>533851242>>533851747butthurt belt
>>533850158
>>533851394>>533851747>A lost of whosRussia beat you cucks, sorry.
>>533849765>>533849866all they had to do is to journal russian everyday misery! and they did!
>>533852015Where are your authors then?
>>533851893hi, mohammad
>>533849765They suffered, yet survived. Without suffering, Pathétique won’t exist.>>533850494Of course you didn’t, the English speaking people don’t even read Dickens these days.
>>533852076in Istambul!
>>533851747>>533851884Oh shit oh shit I didnt see>DFW at 10Ahahahaha
>>533852294Not like Turkey has mcuh decent literature either.
>>533852303Bruh, he is actually listing Lovecraft as a decent author. Come on...
>>533852341how many turkish author you read?
>>533850702and a swedish mother
>>533849765https://annas-archive.gl/md5/7a912ebc799177f0c56660617ef1971ehttps://annas-archive.gl/md5/053ac45be095d8fcb5a3028d034b57ac
>>533852448I haven't read any Mali authors either
>>533851994Why should I listen to some prissy fag?
>>533852251Of what relevance are demographic percentages to your butthurtness? You're 100% eastern european and 100% butthurt. Hence, you're a butthurt belter.
>>533850494Incredibly mediocre authors who are primarily remembered solely because they were the first ones in their society to start a literary movement.
>Dostoevskyhe'd be considered anti-Russian by migger standards today
>>533852629>nigger fuck and make pregnant swedish girlyou can't make this up
>>533852794denounce Quran!right now!
>>533850808This confirms the fact that all smart hohols speak russian. I don't even think Gogol ever used the word "Ukraine".
>>533852802every single one in OP list would.all wrote about "russian soul" misery of everyday life in godforsaken hellhole russia is.
>>533852967Ukraine is a largely artificial state that came to be only around the start of the 20th century
>>533852917I don't really follow orders, especially from the likes of you. But I obviously reject any Jew and Jew-derived religions.Of what relevance is the Quran to you being a butthurt belter?
>>533853208salam aleykum! shitskin!
>>533849765The gods of Literature are Hispanics.Just because whites don't have Literature, and Russians have written great works, doesn't mean you guys are on top.
>To fully grasp the deeper metapolitical significance of Ukraine's current struggle against Russia, we must look back to a pivotal confrontation that occurred in the 15th and 16th centuries between the Republic of Novgorod and Muscovy in northeastern Europe. Russia's obsession with Ukraine and its invasion cannot merely be attributed to territorial ambitions or the clash between democracy and dictatorship. This conflict runs deeper, symbolizing a clash of fundamentally different and mutually exclusive civilizational paths. It represents a struggle for the future of Eastern Europe, pitting Western Civilization, embodied by Ukraine, against the Asiatic brutality and primitivism represented by Russia. A historical parallel of this civilizational clash can be seen in the confrontation that transpired in the Middle Ages between the Republic of Novgorod and the Grand Duchy of Moscow. Russia's current aggression against Ukraine echoes the 15th-century conquest and destruction of Novgorod by Muscovy. By understanding this historical context and progression, therefore, we can gain valuable insights into today's events.
>>533852802Explain your reasoning.
>>533851893kys azuca
>>533849765No one gives a fuck about them outside of Russia.
>>533853299>The forerunner of the future Russian state was the Grand Duchy of Moscow (Muscovy), which was a tributary and the vassal of the Mongol Golden Horde. Initially it was a small principality on the north-east periphery of the realm that once constituted the ancient Kyivan Rus’. However, starting from the 14th century through sly manipulation and prudent politics of its successive rulers who managed to earn the favour of the khans, it succeeded to mobilize the resources of the Golden Horde to its own advantage and thereby consolidate its power in the north-east by gradually absorbing neighboring Russian principalities.
>>533853280>Hispanics.Those guys are great. Both old and new world.
>>533849765>Gogol>PushkinWHITAKER
>>533853368>Having built the autocracy and a strong army, the rulers of Muscovy envisioned themselves as the rightful rulers of all the lands that once constituted the Kyivan Rus’ and aspired to gather all those territories under their banner. Next, they set their eyes to the north-west, to the Republic of Novgorod.
>>533849765>>533849866>>>/lit/
>>533853270It's interesting that a balkan is going with this angle since the only muslim countries in Europe are in the balkans. I'm pretty sure your country has a sizeable muslim community.Doesn't really take away from you being a butthurt belter though.>>533853322You're assuming so much of my ideology with that picture.
>>533853414>Novgorod was the only north-eastern Slavic state that was not affected by the Mongol invasions in the Middle Ages, and in the 14-15th centuries it was the most prosperous polity in the north-east of Europe, with a highly sophisticated and skilled population that cherished their freedoms. Most importantly, its customs, its culture, and the mentality of the people drastically differed from those of Muscovy. The most glaring difference was in the system of government: whereas autocracy and despotism reigned in Muscovy, Novgorod was governed by a popular assembly – the “veche,” which was similar to the Norse “thing” or Swiss cantonal assembly. It took place on the central market square and was called upon by the ring of a large bell, the "veche bell", which carried a symbolic significance to Novgorodians and was a reminder to them of their rights and freedoms as citizens. Furthermore, separation of powers was also woven into the political structure of the Novgorod Republic. The Grand Prince, the Archbishop and the mayor (posadnik) shared the executive branch of the government. The latter two were elected by the veche.
>>533853456qurandenouncenow!
>>533853389The Order of Lenin to Comrade Bond.
>>533853481>Muscovy, in contrast was a despotic autocracy. Slavish servility towards rulers was the defining feature of Muscovites. Arbitrariness and wanton cruelty of the rulers or government officials was rampant and did not know any limits. Muscovy, although militarily strong, was poor and backwards. Its form of government and society in general were similar to, and were essentially the continuation of the Golden Horde.
>>533853522>>533853208
>>533849765>>PushkinHe is literally black African
>>533853553>Novgorod Republic had close relations with the Teutonic Order, the Grand Duchy of Lithuania and the Kingdom of Poland. It traded extensively with the German cities of the Hanseatic League on the Baltic Sea. It was a sophisticated European polity in every sense and was oriented towards the West, ethnically, culturally and politically. It was the jewel of north-east Europe. Moreover, Novgorodians were acutely aware of their differences with Muscovites, of their spiritual, cultural and ethnic closeness to European Civilization, and that they were more civilized and prosperous than their rapacious neighbors to the east. They had a widespread saying to succinctly illustrate the point and remind themselves of this fact: Muscovites wear woven sandals (lapti), whereas we, Novgorodians, wear boots. In the same way that present-day Ukrainians have long been aware of their irreconcilable distinctness from present-day Russians, and that as opposed to the latter they belong to the Western Civilization, which they naturally lean towards.
>>533850702In Russia racism didn't exist they are women were fucking blacks in 1800s
>>533853568denounce quran sandnigger!NOW!
>>533852809Nothing much has changed in Sweden.. Zara Larsson is another example of that
>>533853592>In the 15th century Muscovy had continuously tried to bend Novgorod to its will. However Novgorod, for a long time, was successful in fending off Muscovy’s encroachments and managed to retain its sovereignty. The wealth of Novgorod and its freedoms aroused the rage and envy of Muscovites. Its independent foreign policy, close relations with western Europe was a thorn in the eye for Muscovy. Muscovites simply could not accept it that there could be another Slavic people nearby who are wealthier and more sophisticated than them. Centuries later the descendants of those Muscovites – i.e., present-day Russians, would feel the exact same about Ukrainians, which would be the true deeper reason behind their decision to invade Ukraine.
>>533853583Huh?
>>533853690>With a paranoic suspicion that also defines Russians today, Muscovites considered Novgorodians “traitors” because they pursued their own diplomatic course and conducted close relations with Poland, Lithuania and the Teutonic Order. They even came to accuse them of having converted to Catholicism, having “sold” themselves to the “Latin king” and spearheading the “Latinist expansion” towards the lands of Rus’. In the exact same way that Russians currently accuse Ukrainians of having “sold” themselves to the West, and spearheading “NATO expansion” and “Western decadence” towards Russia. The parallels are indeed striking.
>>533853649It's like talking to someone who's not even listening and just waiting to repeat the same thing when already answered.
>>533853385In Hispanic countries (especially in Spain, sadly), there are anglophiles in many Literary circles... do you have the same problem in Russia, or are you guys more aware on anglosaxons?
>>533853704So if you mix niggers and whites their offspring are white?
>>533849765Dedovchina HIVAIDSHow are rusgolians doing it?
>>533849765I started reading Brothers Karamazov. Stopped when it mentioned an orgy in the first chapter. I started reading the graded reader here >>533852634, the first story is A Hero of Our Time. I downloaded a few translations and compared them. Translations suck. You can't read translations. Either read in the original or don't read at all. Also, apparently there's romance shit in A Hero so I doubt I'll keep reading the translations. I'm working on French and German instead, my German is good enough that I can read fairly high level graded readers, and also any book if I look up a lot of words and ask chatgpt to explain all the time, but you can do that with any language anyway. I'd rather read fables in the original of any language than read translations.
>>533853583Are you a sexpat from USA?
>>533849765>Gogolgog\zog\king og
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>>533852802Dostoyevsky was a hardcore Russian nationalist thoughbeit
>>533849765>no TurgenevISHYGDDTFather's and Sons is brilliant. not Top tier like Tolstoy or Dostoevsky but deserves to be mentioned. Tolstoy's later work is what really set me off but the earlier works got my gears in motion.
>>533853785no, not white, but greatest russian poets
>>533849866>Aaaahh we Russians are all subhumans and our place on earth is eternal misery and suffering Literally every Rusgolian writer ever.You're a joke international and always were.Zimbabwe has a greater civilisation and culture than you ever had.
>>533849765Suffering leads to creativity. It's really that simple. Soviets are miserable. SO they get creative.
>>533853765denounce quranNOW!
>>533853779Idk really, but love Spanish literature and South American. Not even so much Márquez, but rather Cortázar. Even some foreigners that just lived in South America did produce some good works.
>>533853982>>533853208Read and be a bit more self-effacing
>>533852629SWEDEN YES
>>533853948Turgenev is an amazing writer, but he comes a bit short on the philosophy side. So he is usually overlooked in favour of Dostoevsky and Tolstoy.
>>533853876and in the end, he said he was wrong about poles, and russians should not hold them occupied, 'coz poles are greater then pidorsand he learned he was not russ: >Dostoevsky The family traced its roots back to Danilo Irtishch, who was granted lands in the Pinsk region (for centuries part of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania, now in modern-day Belarus) in 1509 for his services under a local prince, his progeny then taking the name "Dostoevsky" based on a village there called Dostoïevo (derived from Old Polish dostojnik – dignitary)
>>533854055denounce quranNOW!shitskin!
>>533854256>>533853208
>>533853814Orgy means a loud and obnoxious over the top drinking party in that context.You fried your brain on porn.
>Tolstoi The Tolstoys were a well-known family of old Russian nobility who traced their ancestry to a mythical nobleman named Indris described by Pyotr Tolstoy as arriving "from Nemec, from the lands of Caesar" to Chernigov in 1353 along with his two sons Litvinos (or Litvonis) and Zimonten (or Zigmont) and a druzhina of 3000 people.[11][12] While the word "Nemec" has been long used to describe Germans only, at that time it was applied to any foreigner who did not speak Russian (from the word nemoy meaning mute).[13] Indris was then converted to Eastern Orthodoxy, under the name of Leonty, and his sons as Konstantin and Feodor. Konstantin's grandson Andrei Kharitonovich was nicknamed Tolstiy (translated as fat) by Vasily II of Moscow after he moved from Chernigov to Moscow.
>>533851747most of those are shit and pynchon learned from nabokovyou must've pulled those from a random 'greatest american authors' google searchbc most are shitand also too many joos in there who wrote about joos
>Chekhov kek same guy who said he was Ukie? the same that i quote said "У мoїх жилaх тeчe yкpaїнcькa кpoв" ?? the same that said "«Укpaїнa дopoгa i близькa мoємy cepцю. Я люблю її лiтepaтypy, мyзикy i пpeкpacнy пicню, cпoвнeнy чapiвнoї мeлoдiї. Я люблю yкpaїнcький нapoд, який дaв cвiтoвi тaкoгo титaнa, як Tapac Шeвчeнкo" ??
>>533854314No, I don't watch porn unlike you.
>>533853757>Obviously, Novgorodians had no intention of leaving Orthodox Christianity or spreading Catholicism further to the east towards Muscovy. This was all the product of the sick imagination of Muscovites. What Novgorodians strived for was to keep their customs and culture, that were essentially part of European Civilization, and hence different from, in fact antithetical, to those of Muscovy, and to pursue their relations with other European states as they saw fit. In a similar vein, Ukraine had no intention to threaten Russia or spearhead a NATO attack on Russian territory. Just like Novgorodians centuries earlier, all Ukrainians want is to build relations with the West, where they naturally belong and hence instinctively gravitate towards, without interference from Muscovite-Russians. And just like their accusations against Novgorodians in the 15th century, the current accusations leveled against Ukraine by the Muscovite-Russians simply reflect their deeper envy and ressentiment at the fact that there is another Slavic, Russian-speaking nation nearby that is more free and prosperous than they are, and chooses a superior civilizational path.
>>533853876Does hardcore mean hardcore totally not gay anal penetration in a mans anus?
>>533854307denounce quranNOW!shitskin!
>>533853982Denounce your roach blood, NOW!
>>533854443>>533852794
>>533854409>In essence then, the confrontation between Muscovy and Novgorod, just like the present-day confrontation between Russia and Ukraine, was first and foremost a metaphysical, conceptual one: its root cause was that Muscovy - an Asiatic, backwards and despotic autocracy - was envious and greedy of the riches and freedoms of its north-western neighbor - Novgorod Republic, who spiritually was part of European civilization. Therefore, at a certain point it became clear that Muscovy would not let it go and would resort to violence to solve its irreconcilable differences with Novgorod, whom it regarded as its nemesis.
>>533854378this isn't something he'd sayhave you read?must be hohol lies
>>533854499>It all came to a head in 1456. The Grand Prince of Moscow Vasiliy II conducted a sizeable military expedition against the great city-republic. The Muscovite army defeated the Novgorodian force and dictated the punitive Treaty of Yazhelbitsy. Novgorod was made to pay a large indemnity, was prohibited from making independent treaties with foreign governments and was to recognize the suzerainty of the Grand Prince of Moscow.>However, Novgorodians did not want to yield to the restrictive and punitive conditions of the settlement of 1456. In the following years a popular resistance emerged within the city that centered around Marfa Boretskaya, the widow of a former mayor. Among other things, the movement advocated for closer relations with the Grand Duchy of Lithuania to restore the republic’s lost freedom of action. Also, Novgorodians were considering placing their archbishop under the jurisdiction of the metropolitan of Kyiv in place of the metropolitan of Moscow. Needless to say, Novgorod did not intend to threaten or attack Muscovy. Its striving for an alliance with Lithuania, who was culturally much closer to it than Muscovy, was purely for defensive purposes. However, vindictive and spiteful Muscovites could not accept this. As a result, Ivan III attacked Novgorod in 1471. Muscovites devastated the Novgorodian lands unleashing genocide with a wild frenzy and massacring people in the cruelest manner. Among other things, Muscovites cut the lips and noses of Novgorodian soldiers they had captured and sent them back to the city to sow terror.
I recently watched a few anti-communist films. One made by americans - The Manchurian Candidate. One made by a polish director - Man of Marble and one made by a czech director - The Confession. The american one was total slop, good guys prevail at the end, no lasting impact. The two other ones made me realize the difference between making propaganda and a work of art by people that lived though that shit. There is a reason americans can't produce anything but shallow crap made by kikes for goyim cattle.
>>533854472Well, he's been spam quoting a roach the whole thread, so I guess he's respects them enough to take them as an authority
>>533854534Bro, he is shilling here that Dostroevsky was Polish. Is there really any point in taking him seriously?
>>533852967Nigger, ukrainian was banned from publication by multiple decrees
>>533849765>Gogolwho?>Pushkinwho?>Lermontovwho?>Dostoevskywho?>Checkovwho?>Tolstoywho?>Bulgakovliterally who?
>>533853948I also left out Pasternak and Goncharov.
>>533849765>Repetitive nihilist slop I don't know maybe you have to be drunk and gay for this
>>533853034>>533851324>t. LARPing as Sweden’s unfortunate misadventure experiment
>>533854762>PasternakGreat poet, mediocre writer
>>533854762Pasternak Is jewish so That's OK.I found Doctor Zhivago highly overated.
>>533854840Hmm I actually didn't know that.
>>533851780in ten years you and all your family will be a fertilizer for my cucumbers. keep chirping and shitposting otherwise, пeтyшoк, and i'll keep sending you to hell every day. YOU did nothing in your pathetic existence. you were born to be raped and grinded. the war won't end, and i got plenty of time.
>>533855094Yeah, its fairly well-know. We even have one outstanding Jewish painter.
>no mention of Platonovdo you even read /pol/
>>533849765Russians back then possessed the holy trinity of literature - stylistic simplicity, depth of thought, and a love of truth. That's extremely rare in any culture. The French, whom many Russians did in fact imitate in the 19th century, only come close >>533853948Seconded
>>533854560>The final blow came in the years 1477–78 when Novgorod was conquered and destroyed by Muscovy. The city was devastated and most of its inhabitants were massacred. The veche bell, that most precious symbol of Novgorod’s identity, was taken down and removed from the city. Its elites were sent into exile to Moscow or dispersed to remote corners of Muscovy to perish and never to return. Finally, in 1480 to suppress yet another rebellion, Ivan III undertook his final punitive expedition. In what would become another recurrrent pattern in future Muscovite/Russian conquests, the city of Novgorod was repopulated with settlers from other parts of Muscovy in order to dilute the share of its native population.>Thousands upon thousands were executed, many others were again sent to exile. Novgorod ceased to exist as an independent state. The prosperous city state that was spared from the Mongol invasion suffered destruction and genocide at the hands of Muscovites.
>>533855273>This however did not mark the end of anguish for the long-suffering, once free and prosperous city republic. The worst was yet to come and it was to experience the full brunt of Muscovite envy and hatred a century later, at the hands of Ivan IV The Terrible and his cruel henchmen.>In spite of the destruction and cleansing of its population by Ivan III, Novgorod still remained wealthy and even retained some of its unique institutional traditions. The natives who escaped genocide and their descendants kept the spirit of Novgorod alive. Moreover, in spite of the share of the native population having been significantly diminished, apparently its culture was so strong that the new settlers were thoroughly imbued by it leaving behind their old ways, a phenomenon that can be observed also in modern times.
>>533855315>Envious and paranoically suspicious Muscovites could not tolerate this. Once Ivan IV conclusively decided to destroy the remnants of Novgorod’s European identity, he showed no mercy. Any territory of the once great republic that the tsar passed through with his brutal and greedy henchmen (oprichniks) felt the blows of their rage. Selected victims were wantonly executed and the population terrorized. Finally, early in 1570 Ivan IV set up his sham court in Novgorod and launched his reign of terror that would become typical of Russian history going forward – a precursor analogous to what Central-Eastern Europe would later experience during the Red Terror of the 1920s and executions under Stalin in the 1930-40s, for example.
>>533855347>The oprichniks arrested many prominent residents of the city, like local nobles, chancery officials and wealthy merchants, and interrogated them under torture. After the interrogations they would execute them in conspiciously cruel ways, that would centuries later define the actions of NKVD – their spiritual descendants. Among other things, their hapless victims would be dragged to the Volkhov river and stuffed through holes in the ice. In most cases entire families, including little children, were killed after going through this ordeal together. During the sack of Novgorod, the oprichniks also directed their ire towards the ecclesiastical society, by arresting monks and plundering churches and monasteries. The oprichniks also had a free hand in dealing with the rest of the population, wherein they scoured Novgorod and the surrounding regions looting, raping and killing. What they couldn’t carry away, they destroyed.
>>533855387>The crushing victory of Muscovy against Novgorod sealed the fate of the future Russian state, and by extension the whole eastern Slavic realm, for many centuries to come. Moreover, the savagery and cruelty with which Muscovy undertook the genocide of Novgorod was an ominous portent of things to come in the following centuries up to the present day and set the behavioral pattern in its future conquests. Russian atrocities in Bucha, Izyum, Mariupol and other places in Ukraine, the brutal rapes, tortures, beheadings and castrations of Ukrainians at the hands of Russians are similar to those what hapless Novgorodians had to endure at the hands of Muscovites.
>>533849765easy anon
>>533854481you should really denounce quran, brownoid. Pathetic immigrant
>>533855411>One could only imagine what future Russia would have looked like if Novgorod had prevailed in its confrontation with Muscovy or at least managed to preserve its independence. There could have emerged a Russian state on the east coast of Baltic stretching up to the north that would be something similar to Prussia or Scandinavian countries, albeit with Orthodox Christianity as its religion. But it wasn’t meant to be. The destruction of Novgorod by Muscovy was a traumatic event and a great civilizational tragedy for Eastern Europe. What Muscovites did to Novgorod was none other than ethnocide – killing a distinct nascent European ethnicity that was forming on the north-eastern expanses of Europe.
>>533849765Makes up for how bad they are at painting…
>>533855474>Today Ukraine represents for Russia what back then Novgorod represented for Muscovy. Today Ukraine is the jewel of the east Slavic realm. It represents a bright alternative, a European civilizational path for the whole post-Soviet, Russian-speaking space - a path that drastically differs from the gloom and destruction that civilizational backwater Russia tries to drag everyone into.
>>533855449>>533853208
>>533855498>Ukraine’s great human capital – talented, energetic, free in spirit and oriented towards Europe, arouses the bitter envy of Russians, like back in the day Novgorodians aroused the envy of Muscovites. Russians see that Ukrainians are richer, more sophisticated and better off than themselves in every respect. This, and only this, explains the wild frenzy with which they rape, torture and murder Ukrainians, and are hellbent on erasing Ukrainian culture and identity, just like in the 15-16th centuries Muscovites were determined to erase Novgorod’s distinct European identity.
>>533854481you should really denounce quran, brownoid. Pathetic immigrant...
>>533855534>Moreover, Muscovites leveraged the vast resources of Eurasia to achieve their goal of subduing Novgorod. During Ivan III's reign, Muscovy was still paying tribute to the Golden Horde, which enabled it access to its extensive material and human resources for the war against Novgorod. A pivotal factor in Muscovy's victory, for instance, was the use of Tatar cavalry. Today, Russia – the successor of Muscovy, similarly exploits Eurasian resources in its war against Ukraine, as it predominantly conscripts people of Asian descent (such as Yakuts, Buryats, and Kalmyks). Additionally, Russia draws significant numbers of soldiers from across the Global South to bolster its forces. Furthermore, Russia's subservience to China, and Putin's recent overtures to Iranian mullahs and North Korea's Kim Jong Un for support in the Ukrainian invasion echo the historical subservience of Muscovy's princes to the khans of the Golden Horde. Just as Muscovy once utilized the Golden Horde's resources to its advantage to consolidate its power and to destroy Novgorod, contemporary Russia mirrors this strategy, seeking external aid all over Eurasia and the Global South - including but not limited to more than 10.000 North Korean soldiers currently fighting for Russia on the battlefield - to fuel its invasion of Ukraine.
>>533855558>>533853456
>>533855564>Today’s sick and paranoid Russian propaganda narratives of “NATO expansion to the East” with Ukraine allegedly serving as its “spearhead”, the spread of “LGBT”, “Nazism”, “satanism” etc. are reminiscent of the Muscovite paranoia about Novgorod’s alleged conversion to Catholicism and spreading the “Catholic menace”. In the same way that Muscovy could not stand Novgorod having close relations with Poland, Lithuania and Teutonic Knights - its natural allies and civilizational counterparts, today Russia cannot accept Ukraine drifting towards Europe and the US, who are culturally much closer to it than Russia, and whose people are mentally closer to Ukrainians than Russians are. Like Novgorod’s striving for an alliance with the closely related Grand Duchy of Lithuania was purely for defensive purposes to protect itself from barbaric and rapacious Muscovy, today Ukraine strives for NATO membership, or at least close relations with the block, for the exact same reasons – i.e., to protect itself against Muscovy’s successor state, the barbaric and rapacious Russia, and thereby to realize its own civilizational destiny which belongs with the West.
>>533855497pro level pics tho
>>533855615>The spirit of medieval Muscovy embodied in modern Russia must not be allowed to prevail again, against the spirit of Novgorod Republic represented today by modern Ukraine. Back in the day Novgorod’s European allies sadly were not strong enough, nor really willing to help Novgorod in its confrontation with Muscovy. Luckily, the West is much stronger now and more determined to help than it was back in the 15th century. And it must remain steadfast in its support, so that unlike Novgorod, Ukraine prevails in this civilizational confrontation with Muscovy-Russia, which will determine the fate of Eastern Europe, and in fact of all Europe, for many decades and centuries to come.
>>533855615>A potential Russian victory will destroy the glimmer of hope for the eastern Slavic realm embodied in Ukraine and will send it back to the age of darkness and gloom. Victory of Ukraine over Russia, in contrast, will herald a new age of prosperity, progress and cultural creativity for Eastern Europe. Ukraine has a real chance to accomplish a historical feat that was not meant for the great city-republic of Novgorod to achieve, namely bringing the eastern Slavic realm to European Civilization, where it truly belongs.>Moreover, to fully dismantle anti-European Russia, the liberation of its current north-western territories, formerly part of the Novgorod Republic, is essential. This is all the more crucial because the genesis of imperial Russia began with Muscovy's conquest of Novgorod – a pivotal historical moment that marked the rise of Muscovy to the detriment of all Europe. This event was both symbolic and traumatic. To heal this historical trauma and deliver a decisive blow to imperial Russia, the lands of historic Novgorod must be reclaimed from Muscovy and restored to European Civilization. Only then can the deep-seated wounds from Novgorod's destruction be healed, allowing the eastern Slavic realm to rediscover itself in a new, enlightened context under Ukrainian leadership.
>>533849765>>533849866I tried to get into it, Notes from the underground is decent but why would I care that Collegiate Assessor Dmitri Alexandrovich Volkonsky-Petrov found a nose in his bread roll that outranks him in the Imperial civil service. Get a better job Dmitri
>>533855635knock it of dip shit
>>533855628hi, dennisnoch imer obdachloss?
>>533855505>>533855595Holy kek did you ever trigger the butthurt belt brigades
>>533855708>knock it of dip shit
>>533852797The art of the novel was an essentially early-modern art form whose time has come and gone. Dostoyevsky was without a doubt the greatest practitioner of that art. Everything he wrote after his stint in Siberia is pure kino and required reading for anyone who wants to understand the modern world.
why are all Russia haters incoherent retards?I never saw some Russophobe write a coherent, adult post, reasonably explaining his pointit’s always buzzwords, buzzwords, curses, gore posting, buzzwords not really selling your position
>>533852967KEK, retarded pedorussians are too lazy to read even his wiki page. It's hilarious how dumb and uneducated they are, yet speak as if the truth of the world has been revealed to them.
>>533851394>Brits are better,Topkek>>533851747Lmao if you believe any of these come even close to Dostoevsky and Chekhov, you don't know wtf you're talking about>flagI see
>>533855736I love doing this. I find butthurt belters to be fascinating creatures. They suck at making arguments, and it seems like they can't even talk in a way that makes sense.
>>533855803Much as I hate the chabad puppet in the Kremlin, I've noticed this tooAnything positive about Russians whatsoever is met with the most aggressive retardation
you'll never understand russian soul!
>>533849765I disagree. except for Bulgakov and Tchehov, the rest are mid-level (this does not include the poets; poetry cannot be translated, period, and my russian is not good enough to read Pushkin).
>>533855497Idk man, they are decent in that area as well but mostly imo where religion is put in the forefront.
>>533855834>be gogol>love ukraine>want to study ukraine>whoops my plans failed>guess Ima be russian writer insteaddo you honestly believe this nonsense they shove down your skull
I've been reading a lot of graded readers and interlinears in various languages over the last year. I haven't read a full book in English, whether original or translated, in a while. I mainly read to learn languages. I never got into reading fiction, except a few years ago when I read a handful of Michael Connelly books, that was the only time I got a good flow in reading fiction, but it's schlock.
you have no soul if you don't understand this!
>>533855844Melville is on par but the rest, idk, although I didn't read Faulkner yet
>>533849866>>533849765Russian Classic literature, Tolstoy, saved my life. After reading some of it and especially War and P. (Banned word now), I understand that author is right and we must think about ourselves, not about something else. That's how I avoided ar-y, rig-t wing groups etc
>>533851994The fuck this fag trying to say? Who gives a shit, stupid old dead poet-ass bitch.
>>533853876he was mindbroken by his polish blood
>>533856112They're also top tier in composers, only mogged by Germany and Austria
>>533856112 Heh was just shitposting. Wassily Kandinsky is one of my heroes.
>>533855983also>talented, energetic, free in spirit and oriented towards Europewho? Ukrainians? Ukrainians are literally just worse Russians going by every objective metric and subjective feeling everything Russophobes say about Russians is present in Ukrainians, only usually 5 times worse how can an adult, literate, mentally sane and intellectually (and generally) honest person believe this shit and propagate it?what, Ukrainians despite reality are better cause they are “Western oriented”?and modern “West” is some cultural and social powerhouse everyone should aspire to emulate? people write this shit on /pol/ lmao
>>533849765You forgot Turguenev
>>533849866Hardship + white genetics + literary talent = goldNobody ever wrote anything beautiful when their life was completely put together. It's only when life is hard and you dig down deep into your soul that the truest words are written.
>>533856248he says a smart mf is a sorry ass muhfugga nigga
>>533856237Tolstoy’s addendum to War and Peace is the most pseudo-intellectual wrong shit I ever read in my lifehe was a great writer, in literary sense in every other sense he was a major faggot, a typical representative of late Russian elite who got high off their own farts Bolsheviks raping them was cosmic justice of the highest order
russian spirituality
>>533856193I like Melville, he was actually Dutch, but he's only famous for one book and he isn't anywhere near the best RussiansAmericans do have some truly excellent writers, like James and Yates, but they're not even in that midwits' list
>>533849765No Solzhenitsyn? is it because of the book 200 years together ?
>>533849765I ask myself the same question and wonder if they have masterpiece writers in the 21st century as well
>>533849765fuck off with the russian slop. all terrible writers
>>533854618>sourceur ass
>>533856414Keeps all the pluming right together!
>>533855834lol faggot retardcommie kike lenin invented you
>>533856658I like Elizarov
op is a faggot
>>533854618How do you ban something that didn't even exist back then? Ukranian identity and language are a 20th century concept propagated by the bolsheviks, how would the Russian Empire have banned something that was invented after it collapsed.
>>533849765i would disagreea lot of european nations have or HAD good literatureyou can compare gogol and shakespeareboth were writing stories for entertainmentboth were mentioning jews multiple timesboth were writing about economy in the most trolling and politically incorrect wayboth laughed from normies becayse they knew people retardedsoon work of both will be banned/negrified by zog
>>533856658unfortunately no imo but that's a postmodernism issueart is stuck in limbo and llms aren't helping thingsit's all downhill from nowtrue dark age ahead
>>533857080just realized i totally screwed up the grammar, but whatever.
>>533849765>7 russians>2 are actually Ukrainianslmao yeah I guess that's the power of russia
>>533849866No one in the west rated Russian authors til the mid 20th century when it became cool and edgy to do so.
>>533857226The issue is we all live in a lie (i.e. the jewish simulation) and our sense of truth has been degraded to the point we're incapable of great art and literature because truth is the most basic prerequisite for it
>>533856634Moby Dick is absolutely on par with the best. Im so sad Dostoevsky didn't read Moby Dick, it would have blown him away.There are a few eerie similarities between MD and TBK as well. Each have a unique take on a sermon and they both have poetry included in the main narrative.
>>533856649Idk man supposedly that book is kinda pro kike in a mellowed out way.
>>533849765Russians are over the top when it comes to dialogue and character piling. Overall I prefer a mix of European writers. German>schopenhauer >Hesse >Goethe>Mann>Nietzsche French:>montaigne>Camus>DumasIberic:>Pessoa>Cervantes >…I realised how pointless this is. I read many hundreds of books, but this will just devolve into a name dropping contest. Let me just put out there that I love the joys of reading, I’m thrilled Reading Beowulf, the ideal State, the peleponnesian war and the Bello gallico. I equally love Reading hemmingway, Huntington, Stevenson, Erasmus, Rand and Borges. I sleep better pondering Pascal, Augustinus, Cicero, seneca and even fucking Sartre. I revel in the tales of Marco Polo, I weep with Viktor Hugo over the decline of high civilization, i despise American arrogance with Yockey; I just goddamn fucking love Reading and am forever greatful I get to do it until I die.
>>533849866There are probably more but the three ethnicities that really want their children to memorize poetry are the British the Iranians/Persians and the Russians. And I don't know about the brits but if you aren't doing multivariate calculus by 8th grade you're a failure in Iran or Russia.
>>533856501Sheeeeiiiii
>>533857365You make a good case I'm gonna reread MB now
>>533855474You're a retard, you are pathetic, and most importantly: You're fooling no one.
>>533857715Did you like Pessoa? Why ? What did you read?Sorry for the gay suggestion but if you like poetry and epics try Camões. If you're into medieval romance and can stand Arturian legend although tortured somewhat, try Amadis de Gaula. Eça de Queiroz is also nice, especially the "Os Maias" classic.And for the love of God do not miss on the Italians! From all ages!And can you counsel us towards some Dutch literature?
>>533853953So, this Russian is also white and potentially a great Russian poet?
>>533854376>and also too many joos in there who wrote about joosThere are two Jews in that entire list (Ginsberg and Roth)
>>533849765Russia holds the soul of humanity
>>533859150truealso mathsergey brin was born in moscow, you knew this?the search engine you use daily is russian-made.
I would also like to add that Truman Capote once complained in a 60s interview that a cabal of 20 or New York Jews basically controlled literary criticism in America and that he knew of "many wonderful Southern writers" whose works were never reviewed because they weren't part of that New York City cabal.
>>533857080Rusniggers literally LARP as medieval swedish warlords, don’t tell me about artificiality
>>533849765The fact that we only got two parts of The Brothers Karamazov instead of four pains me to this day.
>>533853481>The Grand Prince, the Archbishop and the mayor (posadnik) shared the executive branch of the government. The latter two were elected by the veche.>Archbishop>elected by a "veche"Doubt
>>533858858From Pessoa I read the book of disquiet and a bunch of poetry. His poem on the Tagus and the river in his village is Among my favorites. I like his fluent style, his capacity to imagine and his dedication to his imagined task. As a person, i think it’s sad he lost himself in heteronyms, alcoholism and melancholy. Thanks for the suggestions. When it comes to the Dutch greats, it depends on the era. Our great poets are the likes of Bredero, Vondel and Hooft (like 17th century); Erasmus is a great renaissance writer. If you want to look into Dutch literature, you might check out multatuli, Couperus (Both kinda colonial) or reeve (a fag, but with Some readable descriptions of post-war nausea). Bordewijk is also decent. I actually have no idea which authors are translated outside of the Netherlands.
Jewish writers at worst are one-note degenerates like Ginsberg who just write about their degenerate behaviors. The more serious ones write Holocaust remembrances or about the struggles of being a Jew since they have no capacity to understand anything outside their own little community.
>>533849765To be honest every major Western country has great literature. People always look down on the Russians, they are bunch of corrupt and drunk Steppe Slav Mongols. Of course they have great media too such a music, films and books.Jiang explains Russian literature and its effects on the Russian mindset and culture.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rALqcPWuH0
>>533859459>Russian>A jewWhy don't you get raped and thrown into the Baltic sea?
>>533860224cope faggothttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Russian_mathematicians
>>533849765People that don't speak good Russian don't bother reading Dostoevsky in English or other languages. It's only good in Russian because of his skills to write complex sentences. All those other writers can be read in other languages.
>>533849765But it's France and Great Britain dominating the European literature.
>>533860191>To be honest every major Western country has great literature>tfNot so much your toothpaste flag country.
>>533860510>But it's France and Great Britain dominating the European literature.What? Since when?
>>533860566Did you ever do anything except the Lusiadas, and that was in the 1500s?
>>533860566He's right tho.
>>533856193Melville was beloved of Euros of his day but Americans never really appreciated him.
>>533859628I find it hard to believe that any work of mortal man will ever eclipse The Brothers Karamazov.
>>533860547That is why I said "major". The Netherlands is small.Netherlands has Spinoza, Erasmus, Grotius, Mulisch, Hermans, Reve and Multatuli. Like that other Dutch anon mentioned.
>they read novels>they read other peoples opinions>they think of themselves as well read, educated, intellectual even
>>533860547It is a matter of taste. Old Dutch literature is often stuffy and zealous, making it less interesting. There’s also eras where it’s very sharp and deadpan. Generally speaking, I would agree that we are not Among the greatest literary nations, because we don’t have a handful of paragons that dictate and embody the legacy (it remains a great volume of disparate voices). Anyway, we are also simply not well read or known - the language area is very isolated.
>>533860012jews are hacks that are only artificially promoted until proven otherwise.
>>533860822Again, let's pretend that is true? Since when?>>533860666What are you trying to say?
>>533849765https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98llc7GvWbA
>>533851994why would i listen to someone who knew was dying from syphilis but before he did he tried to larp as a noble idealist dying for some god forsaken cause?
>>533849765>How do Russians do itUnironically because of the language. It's pretty unique. >The Russian language is distinct due to its unique Cyrillic script, complex grammatical structure featuring six noun cases and three genders, and its rich historical evolution blending Old East Slavic with Church Slavonic and Western European influences.
>>533857329i foresee a new schism coming, if they keep on this.
>>533852802nigger what are you talking about, Tolstoy was the one who hated the Tsar and was excommunicated by the Orthodox Church. he predicted the revolution and everything
>>533863393You could have said “because of their sad Russian soul”.
>>533856543It's a testament to his incredible strength as an artist that even when he when he spewed nonsense in War and Peace those same views were able to be depicted in a fictional story that was so fucking amazing
>>533849765Russia was once a great imperial white nation.>>533851747americans and russians in reality get along very well. politicians have made us enemies with decades of propaganda. .
>>533852448The entirety of turkish literature is that sone guy moved form the villages to the city and hellish psychological torture happens and guy just accepts defeat and lives a quiet fake life while dreaming of pussy
Nobody has ever heard of those mongoloids
>>533864740Crawl back in your hole
>>533852015>56 posts get a life hohol cockroach
One wonders if Emily Dickinson wouldn't be some problem glasses feminist/OF whore today. Clearly her whole pathology was that she didn't get the Chad she felt entitled to and spent the rest of her life bawling over it until she died.
