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I would push the Red Button. I live either way and in the best case nearly half of humanity (the dumb half) is eliminated so I get twice the money. What's wrong here
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>>533860891
Blue can't loose. Human nature. Rigged from the start.
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>>533860891
The only reason to choose blue is to keeo other dumb blue people alive, if everyone chose red no one dies
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>>533861229
If everyone presses the blue button no one dies.
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Thanos
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>>533861342
That's why you press the red button.
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>>533860891
What a bunch of retards, everyone should press red so everyone survives guaranteed, people who pressed blue are suicidal.
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Also there should be a third option: green
If more than 20% of people press green everyone fucking dies with no exception.
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>>533861734
Least suicidal Romanian
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>>533860891
The majority of blue niggers are women, if this was referendum about women's right you could abolish them with major women support.
Think about it.
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>>533861372
It's not at random though. It tests your ability to make a first order logical decision
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>>533860891
>noooo you cant care about your existence before the group
i press red and you can seethe about it
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>>533861962
Most literate memeflag
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>>533860891
The blue button is the only button that can actually cause harm.
In any real scenario where this is explained properly 99.9% will push red.
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>>533862093
are you retarded retard
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>tell everyone to push red
>vote blue
Cya retards.
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>>533862230
>In any real scenario where this is explained properly 99.9% will push red.
I like the IQ test we have baked into it
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>>533862332
kek
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>>533862230
Do you think Jesus would press the red button?
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>>533860891
once 50.1% was attained on BLUE then what's the point of clicking blue anymore when red doesn't box you into a label
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>>533860891
red
>you survive no matter what
blue
>you may survive if there are enough people as retarded as you are.
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>>533863415
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Look at how many stupid people there are. Almost 100k people voted and the majority are illiterate.
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>>533860891
I push the red button with my rigid penis.
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>>533860891
This is a retarded scenario
You always survive if you pick red.
You might die if you pick blue

The answer is obvious
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>>533861417
Exactly
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>>533860891
I pressed blue to unalive myself and now I feel cheated.
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>>533860891
I simply do not think it is worth living in the world full of exclusively red button mashers. An exclusively red society is a third-world and low-trust one.
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>>533860891
There's really no logical reason to press the blue button, and if everyone pressed the red button then everyone would live anyway. Once you stop and think about it for literally 5 seconds you realize pressing the blue button is just performative altruism.
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>>533860891
blue button pushers are fundamentally retarded and are unable to draw up a table in their head.
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>>533863852
Not so, the real question is what kind of people would hit the red button, and would you even want to live alongside them?
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>>533860891
if everyone presses the red button then everyone survives.
>>533861342
same with red.
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>>533863976
Your mom presses the blue button. Your argument is now invalid.
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>>533860891
Most of the world population is nonwhites who operate entirely on shortsighted greed and inflated egos. You can therefore safely assume that every single Indian, Arab, African, and Chinese will push the red button because they think they’re special and clever and better than everyone else (just like (You)), and that is already the overwhelming majority of humanity. So it doesn’t matter what you do.
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>>533864092
I press red. she voted for it.
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>>533863998
I want to live in general so Red.
Those who also wish to live may also press Red with me.
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>>533860891
this is a useful test to weed out the spiritual jews from humans. all red glowniggers need to be purged. they're selling us out to jews long term for short term gain
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Push both and see if only those who pushed both survive or if everyone, red and blue dies.
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>>533863998
>what kind of people would hit the red button,
anyone with an IQ above 70
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>>533863998
The blue button is the only thing that causes death. By pressing the blue button you turn on a killing game that could wipe out all life.
The red button does nothing.
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>>533861125
Blue is the only option that can lose you retard. Its not red dies or blue dies. Its blue dies, or doesnt.
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>>533864101
The true thinking about this question is whether you want to live in a world where all the trusting people yeeted themselves out of existence
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Red: Nothing to lose. Small chance to gain.
Blue: Some chance to lose. Nothing to gain.
But when the stakes are global nothing ever happens.
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>>533861342
>press blue button
>roughly 50% chance that you die
>roughly 50% chance that nobody dies

>press red button
>0% chance you die
>roughly 50% chance a bunch of retards die

Further more, the more people who push the blue button, the larger the potential mass casualty event is. If only one person pressed blue, they would be the only one to die. You are actively creating the problem that you are trying to virtue signal about saving people from by pressing the blue button
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>>533864092
I have confidence she'd be able to draw up a truth table and realize that red is the only logical option.
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>>533864092
my family and friends would press red because they arent retarded
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>>533860891
This is retarded, if everyone has to press then why wouldn't everyone just press the red button? Then everyone survives anyway, it breaks the whole thing. But the vote would be good for one thing - it would filter out all the performative morality morons.
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>>533863415
Bro literally everyone should just press blue. Its that easy. Everyone survives.
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>>533860891
I refuse to press the blue button while I'm being denied a girlfriend and racially replaced.
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>>533860891
Red
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>>533861342
Did you ever stop to think that I want everyone to die?
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If we changed the hypothetical to make the vote public, nobody would press red. Funny how that works, now isn't it?
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>>533864369
I'd press the blue button because a world with only sociopathic selfish red button pressers wouldn't be worth living in anyway and would probably end up bombing itself into oblivion within a decade.
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>>533864581
I'd vote red
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>>533864369
There is no reason to press red, it's a silly test to dictate willingness to kill someone else for personal gain while framing it in a way that negates responsibility for the killing, a very jewish thing morality framed as logic.
>but if everyone pressed red then nobody would die
You pressed red with the full expectation of "retards" pressing blue, and you want to be the smart logical survivor when in this hypothetical it's never a stated context for how everyone is going to survive, die, or what is serving as executioner.
There's no reason to press red when the threat of death was likely a bluff to begin with
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>>533864692
The same retarded blue pressers willingly vote to be ethnically replaced and squeezed by oligarchs
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>>533864581
>If we changed the hypothetical to make the vote public, nobody would press red
not everybody is a performative faggot like you.
I'd vote red
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>>533864627
Its not sociopathic, its not even slightly amoral. Its the 100% logical choice, and that logic isnt even complicated. As this anon put it
>>533864163
The red button does nothing. Blue pressers are the only ones putting anyones life at risk
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>>533860891
Blue is the test of civilization. Animals, such as the Homo Erectus from Africa (common name Nigger), are evolved to think in terms of immediate, selfish benefit. Humans, on the other hand, are evolved to live in civilization, where repeatedly taking risks in mutual cooperation together has proven to be the winning evolutionary strategy.
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>>533863921
Just like real life America
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>>533864804
All inaction is compliance
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>>533864692
>dictate willingness to kill someone else for personal gain while framing it in a
nice try. kike. I'm not attached to my life so I could care less if entire civilization ceases to exists. goy like you want to live even with jew dicks up your holes. so then be a good goy and press the blue button.
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>>533864247
As I said in the other thread, this is wrong. They have much stronger family ties than westerners, and lower to no fear of consequences for their actions; similarly to how they would engage in dangerous criminal behaviours regardless of potentially getting caught (blue not reaching quorum)
So they would all collectively push blue, not red.
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>>533864847
>everyone push red
>no ones dies
This shit makes no sense
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>>533864847
Its not risk taking for any gain though. If there was some reward for pressing blue the story would change, but blue has only downside. Anyone who presses it is either retarded or suicidal or both
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>>533860891
if you only care about yourself, you push red
if you actively hate others, you push red
if you fear those who push red wish to do you harm are a large enough voting force, you hedge and push red
if you are an illiterate nigger and have no foresight, you push blue
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>>533863998
You should press the blue button then, please do
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Valuing your life over others is apparently immoral now.
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>>533864878
>I'm not attached to my life
Then flip a coin on suck starting a shotgun. You have the same valuable input as a nihilist and antinatalist through indifference.
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>>533864847
The blue button tests whether your emotional thinking dominates your rational thinking
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>press blue
>create the scenario now where someone has to die when they never would have until you pressed the blue button
>sneed and shit your pants for being retarded and screech at everyone else that they have to save you from your own stupidity by also picking the stupid option
Blue pressers are niggers. They create the scenario where someone might die.
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>>533865052
>knowing full well niggers would press red without a second thought
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>>533864627
>sociopathic
literally only people who press the blue button create the risk of anyone dying.
its a simple logic test.
If everyone presses red, everyone lives.
If some people press blue, you run the risk of some people dying.

The test demonstrates a startingly high number of people are too "irrational" or stupid to make the correct decision and their stupidity has now introduced a massive risk to themselves and others.
It is a logic test to see if people are logical enough to act in the interest of everyone's safety.
To no ones surprise, some people are so dumb they create high risk environments, to my personal surprise, a disquietingly high number of people are stupid enough to impose a high risk environment.

Press Red or else you should unironically be removed from civil society.
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The blue button is the high trust society button
The red button is the low trust society button
Americans who are used to their grocery shop products behind glass and locked, especially those raised on "greed is good" all press red
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>>533863998
>Not so, the real question is what kind of people would hit the red button, and would you even want to live alongside them?
this. run the experiment long enough and jews and golems are the only ones left alive in the end. better to die a human than a sociopathic cryptojew
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>>533865143
No, only people pressing red create the risk of anyone dying.
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>>533865114
Sorry meant to say blue pressers are dumber than niggers
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>>533864873
The only way to take action against the oligarchs is through free speech. Every other way leads to you being arrested. And being arrested helps no one.
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New scenario
>You have a shotgun and are locked in a room with Tyrone
>You can either kill nobody and both leave the room, or kill yourself and only Tyrone leaves the room
Very difficult decision.
No you can't shoot Tyrone he chose red obviously.
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>>533865145
/thread
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>>533865179
Like this anon, dumber than a nigger. The blue button press is the only choice that creates the scenario of potential deaths!
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The point of this question is to test whether or not you're a performative altuist who tries to shame others into not doing good for yourself and others when you're the one who got yourself into trouble in the first place.
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JUST LIKE MUH HECKIN MARVALROONIE MOVIES!
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>>533860891
I would push the blue button. Women are more likely to push blue than men, and if red wins there will be a horrible gender imbalance which will only make hypergamy worse.
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>>533865145
You need to work on your critical thinking, your female brain has betrayed you
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>>533865145
Best post. It gets even worse when you remember that random africans and indians will also press the button and they don't think like you.
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>>533865291
Nah women would say they're voting blue and vote red in secret
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>>533865044
>Then flip a coin on suck starting a shotgun
why should I force or tempt anything, jew? I'm just gonna exist without any effort at all and let you do everything for me like the good goy that you are.
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>>533865183
Blue pressers are White liberals. They're too stupid and emotional to realize they're causing all the problems, but even if they realized it they'd still support it because their brains are twisted to think the more they suffer, the more moral they are, even if they're suffering for absolutely no good reason.
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>>533865417
>you're a jew and a goy, jewgoy!
Lol, lmao
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>>533865228
The statement is extremely clear. Only if you press red is anyone at risk of dying.
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>>533860891
Stupid question. Press the red button and you survive either way.
(obviously most people will push the red button and only retards who pushed the blue button will die)
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>>533864880
Plus, they are more likely to misunderstand the prompt. Low IQ individuals look at "save everyone" and immediately choose blue.
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>>533860891
The only people who would not push red are retarded. Therefore I see this as an absolute win.
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>>533864943
There are mentally challenged people who will press blue no matter what. Then there are the people that want to save them (may include your loved ones). Are you going to help or not?
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>>533864200
You're retarded. Pressing red is not pressing the button to survive, it's gratuitous murder. Red pressers are therefore murderers and enemies of everyone who pressed or considered pressing blue, with no moral grounds for their actions that the majority could share. You're therefore at risk of being exposed as a murdered from then hereafter.

Also what makes you trust the rules? It could well be that it's a trick to sus out muderous assholes, and pressing red ends up killing you in the end. You also have no absolute guarantee you won't later be exposed as a red presser murderer. So pressing blue is the only correct and safe choice for:
-the wellbeing of others
-your own wellbeing
-morality in every conceivable sense
-reason, as you realistically don't have the comparative and statistical analysis to know without any shadow of doubt that blues are undeserving of life
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>>533865360
If that were the case I would push red. Really I would push whatever button maximizes the EV of (#women/#men)
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>>533865143
Great take. This happens in real life. People voting to replace themselves
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An alien descends on Earth and offers every human an ultimatum. If over 50% of you choose to fight back, everyone survives and I fuck off forever. If less than 50% of you choose to fight back, only those who chose not to fight will survive, and everyone who chose to fight back will die. Then I'll fuck off forever after that. Which do you choose?
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>>533861342
If everyone presses the red button everyone survives.
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>>533860891
So everyone should press the red button and everyone will survive.
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>>533860891
>blue button
>either i live
>or i die and the ones that killed me get to live

>red button
>i live
>or everyone dies
This is a no-brainer
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>>533865634
You almost go it.
Red you live no matter what.
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>>533865531
I refuse to save a drowning person because I do not wish to down myself
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>>533865531
I saw a dude jump off a bridge and didn't stop him. I subsequently got arrested for murder.
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>>533865531
This is why Eurocucks are being raped to death.
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>>533864581
Press A if you want to live.
Press B if you don't care if you live or die.
If this vote is public, everyone presses B!
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>>533860891
if red was universal human extinction instead i would press it
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if you press the red button, nothing happens
if you press the blue button, you might die

that's all there is to it
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>>533865692
I thought of that after the comment, if everyone presses red we all live, bluetards are both suicidal and stupid for no reason
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>>533865634
The slaves gambit is to become a good enough cog in the machine to be a critical and irreplaceable cog, and threaten its own removal and destruction. In a roundabout way if successful the slave becomes the master. This banks on how blind the master in this scenario is as to his abilities, the abilities of the slave in question, and the abilities of what he intends to replace the slave with.
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>Bluetrannies are using the exact same spurious arguments and violent threats as vaxxxtards during the plandemic.
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>>533865732
not everyone is an edgelord. There's a reason blue won in the poll
>muh virtue signaling
the poll doesn't tell you who voted what.
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>>533865840
Blue won because people are sheep with no preservation instinct.
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ITT: a bunch of 40-year-old /pol/neets are exposed to the prisoner's dilemma
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>>533860891
>press the blue button to bet your life on a social experiment
why
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>>533865143
>literally only people who press the blue button create the risk of anyone dying.
the same can be said for red pressers, retard
The risk of death comes from the buttons themselves, not the choice.
Buttons: create risk
Red: put others at risk
Blue: put yourself at risk
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>>533865891
It’s not even the prisoner dilemma you idiot
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The funny thing about this simple question is that arguments get so heated up and people get so incredibly mad about everything.
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>>533860891
All the stupid people press blue so I would press red no hesitation
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>>533865910
Red button: BVLL
Blue button: cuck
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>>533865531
>I'm gonna make up a bunch on nonsensical premises and threaten red pushers
>Why is nobody taking my side?
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>>533864311
The downside to pressing red and winning is you have to live in a society full of reds. Also population collapse. I hope you like middle ages technology.
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>>533865897
Because women
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>>533860891
This is so retarded that a jeet probably came up with it.
Blue button everyone survives, red button does nothing basically unless everyone chooses the red button which has no effect
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>>533865478
jew is how you act, but goy is what you are. retard. the fact that you didn't understand that tells me all that I need about you, jew goy
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>>533860891
>red button chads stay winning. This is an intelligence test. If you want to gamble your life and push the blue button by all means go for it. No one would die if everyone chose red but you would have idiotic liberals virtue signaling themselves to death by choosing blue.
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>>533864369
Let's be honest, if it's truly private then all of the virtue signalers would press the red button and then tell everyone that they pressed the blue button. Same way they all support immigration as long as it's in someone else's neighbourhood.
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>>533865918
>The prisoner's dilemma is a foundational game theory thought experiment showing why two rational individuals might not cooperate, even if it serves their best interest. Separate suspects face a choice: cooperate (stay silent) or defect (betray). The Nash equilibrium occurs when both defect, leading to a collectively worse outcome than mutual cooperation.
that mexican education wew lad
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>>533865910
Red doesn't create any risk, because everyone is free to push red, thereby eliminating the possibility of risk. The only risk is inherent in pushing blue, which you're not required to push (if you push blue, you're voluntarily assuming the risk, which you didn't have to do).
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>>533865973
thats not a downside. white people would take over the world again if suicidal white blues all disappeared and we would live in literal paradise
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>>533865910
Press the blue button to bet your life on a game!
-I don’t want to kill anyone
Oh no, they only die if they chose to bet their life. If they don’t want to die, they just press the red one like you
-you aren’t forcing them to press the blue one?
Oh, no, they can press whichever they want
-why would anyone press the blue one
Because they’re stupid fucking animals!
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>>533862230
If everyone presses blue no harm is caused as well retard.
This is a binary choice statistically
Everyone presses red: no harm
Everyone presses blue: no harm
All splits cause harm.
This test shows that some people (like you) have no ability to think of a situation from outside and think out of the box. You just obsess with your point of view and thus are always doomed to be wrong about everything. You use blame (blue presses are stupid) to rationalize your personal safety in what is actually a statistical equivalence
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>>533866099
There is no option in this where both sides get equally fucked.
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>>533860891
There is no personal downside to pressing red.
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>>533864369
I can't live with the chance that I was responsible for deaths so I'd still pick blue and risk my demise by the hands of mentally ill minmaxxing faggots such as yourself.
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>>533866180
>selfishly picking red and letting potentially billions perish isn't a collectively worse outcome
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>>533860891
this question reveals the real humans (blue) and the nihilists/philosophical zombies (red).
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>>533866126
>the sociopath can't fathom why losing all the contributing volunteers and anywhere from 1-49% of the population would be a bad thing.
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>>533860891
All this tells me is that 57.9% of twitter users are actually retarded. There is absolutely no reason to ever press blue.
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>>533866099
You imbecile, in. The PD you guarantee success by betraying the other person. There’s no betrayal here. The other person can win also by not being a stupid fuck like you. In PD I win by making him lose. Here we can both win simply by pressing red.
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>>533863998
People who press blue are also more likely to help invaders, the fate of sheep is not a lions concern
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>>533866184
There’s no collective downside either, provided no one was suicidal or stupid enough to press blue.
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>>533865145
Universal society is not a high-trust society. Therefore it appears you advocate for pressing red. I'm proud of you, son. You finally realized that high-trust society can only function when it's homogeneous and hence people are by and large pulling in the same direction. Once you destroy the social fabric through foolishness brought on by high-trust society habits applied to outsiders, you end up with a low-trust society where different groups of people are pursuing contradictory interests. In no large-scale / universal situation is it wise to apply high-trust society principles but to default to logic that at least enables you to avoid the worst evils.
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>>533866262
>you guarantee success by betraying the other person
top kek
seriously though, that mexican education! W E W
>here we can both simply win
>implying a prisoner's dilemma can never include more than 2 participants
THAT MEXICAN EDUCATION
W E W
E
W
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>>533866176
The splits only cause harm to blue pushers. You are a legitimate moron if you can't get it.
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>>533866336
jfc. Carry on, mutt. Carry on.
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>>533863852
>my immediate safety is worth more than thousands and potentially millions of people whose first thought is to keep me safe
You just admitted you're a piece of shit sociopath unworthy of being kept safe by society, in case you didn't notice
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>>533860891
>I live either way
>I get twice the money
> What's wrong here
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>>533860891
Red is the game-theory rational option, nevertheless, blue under most ethical systems is the "moral" option, because around half of the population is (by definition) dumber than average and so the likelihood of them misunderstanding the question is extremely high, thus a "moral" population would be forced to vote blue to save retards from themselves (just like in real life).
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>>533866045
You're right ,it is an intelligence test because of the framing. Formulate the question slightly different and nobody would choose blue. The whole argument about innocent children and imbeciles would go out of the window if you just frame the poll differently so that everybody understands the actual risk.
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>>533865968
Nah I think reds are the cucks
Refer to >>533865572
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>>533866099
This isn't even a dilemma.
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>>533866367
buenos suertos mi amigo negrito
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>>533864627
By pressing blue you are choosing death and suicide is immoral
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>>533866384
>because around half of the population is (by definition) dumber than average and so the likelihood of them misunderstanding the question is extremely high, thus a "moral" population would be forced to vote blue to save retards from themselves (just like in real life).
This only makes me want to press red harder
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>>533866320
you're the unwanted invader in that scenario.
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>>533866249
Nice flag kike. We will retake our cities after the nukes go off.
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>>533866384
Red is only the nash equilibrium if you're sub 90 IQ and only think of the world in terms of yourself like a toddler.
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>>533866437
>it's not a dilemma to kill billions of people by picking the less risky but far more selfish choice
i can just tell you posted fedora+katana selfies on /soc/ 15 years ago
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>>533866501
I use the flag to bait retards like you. And it works every single time.
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>>533864101
>collectivists will press the red button
You're clueless about a huge portion of the world. Commies are the least likely to press red because of how they're educated. In fact any group will press blue more depending on their social trust levels
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>>533866501
you never did shit and you will never do shit, pussy.
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>>533863998
The whole point of the question is to allow an opportunity for virtue signaling by evil, manipulative, communist, treacherous, dissimulating cunts. They are scum. They are not virtuous people at all. They are machiavellian cravens and psychopaths. Blue button choosers are the people that destroyed my homeland forever. The are rancid, subhuman puke.
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People are really out here gambling with their own life for no reason other than to not seem like a bad person in the eyes of someone who can’t even read. I’m with bill gates, you niggers are cooked.
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>>533860891
Except if blue wins, you don't survive, they send you to re education camps for ever daring to pick red.

But hey, at least you're still "alive"
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>>533866504
Again, it's not a dilemma. Red is the only correct choice. A dilemma requires a situation where blue is the correct choice; there is no such situation.

Learn what words mean before you use them, then remove yourself from the white mans internet forever.
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>>533860891
>push red
>population reduced by 43%
>watch the news
>most of the people alive are jews, niggers and politicians
>forcefully taken to an amazon concentration camp
>spend the rest of my life stacking boxes in a warehouse
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>>533865145
You can't have a high trust society when niggers exist in it, you can't put the cat back in the bag
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>>533866639
>saving all of humanity is not the correct choice
you might be "white" but you've got the heart of a nigger
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>>533866576
>the people trusting other humans and wanting them to live are evil!
>I am the good guy for wanting potentially billions to die!
let me guess: you're christian?
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>>533866504
If being unwilling sacrifice myself for people too stupid to not it the "survive regardless" button, then whatever. There is no way you're going to make me feel guilty for not saving people who chose to drown themselves.
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>>533864146
Having an IQ above 70 makes morals irrelevant, so that putting altruistically minded people at risk is acceptable? If you're so smart you would press blue because you'd understand the majority will press blue. Think women, kids, elderly etc, they will all press blue. So by pressing red you're simply risking their lives for your safety and lack of insight.
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>>533866548
When you're a pile of fucking ash we don't even have to do anything you white genociding nigger pig.
>>533866536
You're going to die in nuclear fire faggot. It makes niggers like you foam and it's fucking beautiful. Even if I die in nuclear fire I have the happy reality that your nigger ass is going too. Fuck you faggots I literally only wanted to play video games.
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>>533866576
Dichotomy brained red/blue nigger has his own intuition of association working against him in context with the question
>red/blue, right/left, I'm "red" so I'm gonna follow the party line that every other red would follow, the red choice is obviously right because I'm red
And you think you're not niggers
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>>533866503
Nonsense, game theory in this case only involves the benefits and costs to the individual, so unless you were to include theoretical social costs in case blue wins (which I imagine would be quite heavy) or the psychological costs of technically being complicit in the murder/suicide of slightly more than half of the population, the rational choice under the constraints given would be red.
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>>533866639
One situation in which blue might be considered correct is if someone you love has chosen blue, whether by mistake or dumbassery, and you have good reason to believe that a substantial portion of humanity might choose blue (evidenced by this thread), and so would like to contribute your button press toward that
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>>533866677
All of humanity is saved if they aren't retarded enough to play russian roulette on blue for literally no reason
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>>533866747
Were you raped? You type like you were.
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>>533866747
>durrrrrr
post hand, pussy :)
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>>533865531
Your making up an awful lot of hypotheticals, the mental gymnastics of a blue presser
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>>533866677
You are rabidly anti-White scum. Your opinion is worthless dog shit.
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>>533866384
It's only the moral option to press blue if you know for certain that over half the world will not be able to understand the question.
Otherwise, if, say, you know for certain that only 10 percent of the world is unable to understand the question and will vote blue, then voting blue is just killing yourself needlessly.

It's likely only moral to vote blue if both
1: You are some kind of sociologist with an understanding of global IQ averages and their corresponding language difficulties
2: It is also true (and you are aware that it's true because of 1) that the majority of people will not understand the question.


To compound the question,
Honestly,
You'd need to know that they are both unable to understand the question, not selfish enough to vote red even if they don't understand it, and also the percentage of other educated sociologists that may make the same red choice based on their educated guesses of global IQ averages.

It's a mess.
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>>533865531
No, you are retarded.
Press Blue if you want to die.
Press Red if you want to live.

This system is simply better because everybody can decide for themselves if they want to die or not. They do not need you to decide for them.
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>>533866701
>>533866792
true but there are very likely hundreds of millions if not billions of well-meaning retards out there. some may even say that sacrificing 1 life is too much
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>>533860891
all these redditors explaining their optimal choice to push red makes it self evident blue is the correct choice. you're not an alpha, you're a jew.
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>>533866854
I am not but
>a fucking leaf
lol if only I gave a shit about your opinion Shridesh
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>>533866877
why should we be expected to risk death to save a suicidal moron
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>>533866897
ur a goddam commie
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>seething """whites""" think pressing red will kill everyone but whites
no wonder the kikes control them so easily. they're truly fucking retarded and just as self-serving.
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>>533866249
society would literally be better LMAO
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>>533860891
only cucks, the docile, and fags press the blue button
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>>533865910
Yeah pressing blue sounds like a retard move
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>>533866691
I am looking at why the hypothetical situation exists in the first place, why it is crafted to be the way it is and why people answer certain ways. You are the evil demented scum that lets a schizophrenic violent junkie out without bail after their 20th violent crime, just because they are black, and then they burn someone alive on the subway. You are not virtuous in any way. You are evil demented communist scum.
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>>533866920
you're not expected to. this is basic game theory. my very first post in this thread was a joke that /pol/ finally discovered elementary game theory and some mexican dwarf chimped out
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>>533866897
>>533866947
Yeah, this is a pretty huge indicator of /pol/'s collective IQ.
I remember someone did a test a few years ago and found this board had the lowest IQ overall of applicants, but come on man.
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>>533866496
The invaders are the abduls and mohammeds that bluefags think is worth keeping alive
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>>533866776
Even a 1% drop of the global population overnight would be disastrous. One must assume it would be higher in such a poll. As such you vote blue for your own benefit.

Of course if you like the idea of spending the rest of your life in serfdom harvesting wheat for 8 hours a day red is the choice for you.
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>>533860891
Fake! I am certain that Red won, it's the usual Internet (sickening religion) Bullshit.
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>>533866576
you’re so retarded you couldn't even read the hypothetical properly, it’s a private vote. the exact people you’re talking about are the ones who’d hit red without hesitation. why wouldn’t they? they’re selfish. and if blue somehow wins, they’ll just lie and say they picked it.
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>>533866947
The reality is that most people in the world would press red, even the virtue signaling lying scum that just want to make themselves look good because that is their craven strategy for trying to climb status hierarchy in their twisted social milieu. The people who would die are the useful idiot types that get manipulated by psychopaths.
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>>533866728
>so that putting altruistically minded people at risk is acceptable?
The only one putting themselves at risk is themselves
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Ok, this thread is really dumb.
>vote red
>most women die if red wins
>society collapses

>vote blue
>win
>nothing happens

If you can't understand this, you're low IQ. I don't care about your theoretical optimal and whatever other insane prisoner's dilemma cope you come up with. I'm right, you're wrong and you'll just kill a fuckload of people because you're fucking stupid.
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bliggers stay dying for niggers and muslims lol
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>>533861342
If you just simply don't pick blue, death is not a threat for no one. It just doesn't happen, because Red is the correct answer.
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>>533867090
Only, if you were to argue that the risk of death in the vote is less costly than the effects of societal collapse on the voting individual (which, to be fair, would indeed carry some risk of death though significantly smaller).
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>>533865493
Yes it is clear. The trolley is going towards and empty track (everyone presses red) and it keeps going towards the empty track.

All of a sudden a retarded dumb nigger presses blue and dives onto the track and now they have to force over half the population to stop the trolley.

You are the dumbest nigger. Cause and effect? Too hard!
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>>533860891
what if I don't press either button
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>>533867311
People will pick blue, period. You are actively choosing to murder people. Period.
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>>533867311
but I want to be a special snowflake, anon
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>>533866789
This is untrue not only because it requires your individual vote to matter and your life to not matter, but because a dilemma *like the one the nigger referenced explicitly, the "prisoners dilemma"* your choice is evaluated independently.

There isn't a way to formulate this where blue is ever correct, therefore it is not a dilemma.

Everyone posting "well if you give a mouse a cookie then maybe I am actually smart for picking wrong" is trying to invent a way to make the thread interesting or is literally just a nigger
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At first I thought this was a boring thought experiment because, unlike other exercises like prisoner's dilemma, trolley problem, roko's basilisk, etc there is no real tradeoff here. there's an objectively correct answer.

But after seeing the responses and all the midwits picking blue because they think they're helping, and by doing so only making things riskier for everyone, I now find it very fascinating. Crazy how many people are willing to join a massive suicide pact and then think you're a bad person from choosing not to participate in their insanity.
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>>533867322
I'd rather die before being sent back to 1312 with all these retards. It's absolutely a worse outcome.
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>>533865867
Blue won because humans are a social animal who didn't get where they did by being selfish sociopaths lmao
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>>533867195
I am not just looking at the hypothetical situation, but also why the hypothetical exists in the first place and why it was written that way. Like the woman/bear hypothetical. Don't bother with the details of the hypothetical. The actual real situation is that you handed a woman a lever of power for them to use to try and increase their status in their covert hierarchy games. Their answer has to understand in the context of that, and why the hypothetical was written that way in the first place.
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>>533866947
The blue whites are the people standing between me and total nigger death
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>>533867290
>I don't care I don't want to think
>I'm right I'm right I'm right
Convincing people to vote blue button would kill more people than convincing them to vote red button, because red would win.
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if you press blue, you are KILLING YOURSELF. if you tell other people to press blue, YOU ARE COERCING THEM TO KILL THEMSELVES.

think of it like this: instead of buttons, its two jail cells. the red jail cell has nothing in it, the other has a spiky ceiling that will descend and crush the people in the blue cell, unless there are >50% of people in the blue cell. bluefags will tell you its immoral to not get in the blue cell and potentially be crushed to death, when the red cell is perfectly safe. YOU made the decision to get in the death cell, YOU can get fucked.
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>>533867090
yep, people fail to understand that unless you're rich or jew voting red will lead to live under slavery.
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>>533867195
You're a retard. He said "the point of the question", not "the point of the scenario".
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>>533867459
Most women are voting blue. You can cope about theory all you want, but I'm right. You either cacus with the 10+ percentage that guarantee vote blue, or you're a murderer. It's that simple.
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>>533863852
That's the thing. Is clear that the trick of the thought experiment is that it is an illusory conflict where they state directly that you never "save" no one because one of the options end up with no one dying while the other introduce the possibility for no reason at all. Is a test of common sense.
>>533867369
You don't murder anyone getting this correct, except if you pick blue and then try to coerse everyone else to play russian roulette with you, because as i said above, death only happens if you willfully kill yourself.
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>>533867290
The woman who vote blue aren't having children so it is no loss
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>>533860891
Dysgenic result either way.
The only winning move is not to play.
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>>533867460
blue button pressers are giving me covid era flashbacks of the vaccine push. these people are the people who took the vaccine and tried pushing it on everyone.
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>>533867407
Kek, fair enough.
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>>533867399
>I drew you as the zoomer midwit and myself as the high IQ guy in a hoodie, making me the winner
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Red here. I knew only retarded lefties would push blue, it boils down to suicidal empathy and flooding your own country with brown people or helping Africa. "We can save everyone" without thinking of the potential consequence of your fellow people is a toxic mindset and should be culled. Anyone who presses blue when everyone could be safe by pressing red without risking themselves doesn't deserve life, they'd open up borders not caring about the risks it has to white people.
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>>533867526
most women would claim to vote blue and actually vote red.
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>>533866947
actual braindead brownoids will pick red out of pure self-preservation instict.
smart whites will pick red because they understand that there's zero downsides to choosing red, that everyone can choose red so there's no actual risk of anyone dying, and that anyone who chooses blue is suicidal.

the only ones who would actually pick blue in this scenario are dumb midwit bleeding heart good goys who think they're being altruistic but are actually demanding that everyone join their suicide pact.
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>>533860891
are blue button pushers susceptible to subversion cause they'll do anything for the greater good?
I don't get it.
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>>533867399
The people who trust the warlords of Somalia, the Chicoms, jeet scammers, human sacrificing voodoo Haitians, dickless communist shitweasels, Congo cannibals, gas huffing abos, corrupt Latinos, etc to press blue and put their head on the chopping block are just fucking retards and they destroyed Canada forever.
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Finally after not playing myself I feel like
push push push push push push push push push push push push push push push push.
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>>533867399
Is there a vaxx analogy in this game?
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>>533867585
>doesn't understand the entire third world would pick red alongside him
Better off picking blue and forming right wing death squads after if TKD and TND is what you're looking for
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I choose red and I choose to play unfair. My robots have a 100% chance of survival and they just keep pushing.
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>>533867618
Delusional retard. OP's gay Twitter poll already shows a majority picked blue anyway.

Again, your choice is:
mass murder
Or
Nothing

One requires global coordination and total consensus, while the other only needs a simple majority. You will never get the former, so the only logical choice is the latter, no matter how game theory optimal the former is.
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>>533867664
It's the difference between acting based on how you want things to be vs how things are.
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>>533867398
Clearly if your choice is evaluated independently and you have no care for what others might vote, you pick red to save yourself, but the scenario as presented involves consequences for other people, and that is something that should be considered. If everyone who pressed blue was a fag, I'd press red without hesitation.
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wait is this meant to be an allegory for the covid shot?
>dont take the vax - no side effects, you live
>take the vax - immune system fucked, you start coercing others to take the vax
>unvaxxed chads win in both scenarios
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>>533867720
No. Everyone who picks blue is dead.
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Never stop pushing red.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APjUUNAhzyk

>>533867744
The choice was not a moral one, it was a logical one and the logical choice is self preservation. Now we push.
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>>533867636
They're the type of people who don't critically think about the actual logical outcomes of different scenarios and operate purely on gut reaction and emotion.
They're the people who are in favor of all internet sites and even your PC and phone operating systems verifying your government identity at all times because "think of the children"

They are pure goycattle who are trying to drag the rest of us down to hell with them.
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>>533867744
it's not mass murder when they are the ones choosing to die.
One requires common sense and the other requires a lack of reading comprehension and understanding.
I don't care if retards kill themselves, I'm not risking myself to save dipshits who could just save themselves the exact same way I'm saving myself.
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>>533867828
It's both logic and moral. Society would collapse if red wins. You're delusional if you think a majority cohort of women aren't dumb enough to press blue.
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>>533867819
Only under minority vote, ask yourself the percentage of whites everywhere picking red vs blue under the context of this question, and the kind of person they are to pick it. Which do you think is going to have more?
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>>533867774
There is nothing based about what you propose at all. You are basically the deluded scum the eradicated Canada.
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>>533860891
this is the exact scenario the west is in now. self righteous blue pressers bringing unnecessary risk of extinction to whites so they can larp and moral fag while every other group presses red
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>>533867576
>ignoring the text and focusing on the wojaks

bluefags deserve what they get. they CANNOT refute the suicide cult accusations because they are one
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Only the red button has a 100% chance of survival. We push then we push then we push.
If in doubt we push.
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>>533867744
It's not mass murder. They're simply choosing of their own volition to jump into a woodchipper, and I'm not going to risk getting pulped trying to save them from their own stupidity.
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>>533867907
If you know most whites will press blue, are you going to have fun dying out being the last white?
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>>533867744
you are a commie, you probably took the vaccine too.
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>>533867717
100% there is bluefags are vaxxed cucks. see how they fantasize about killing reds if they win. they obviously dont actually care about human life
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>>533864311
Real life with highly pro-socially conditioned societies would ensure blue victory. Any society that doesn't vote majority blue wouldn't be stable enough to run such a vote in an orderly fashion.
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>>533867889
I already know what your evil demented "values" have done to my homeland, you vile virtueless manipulative cunt. There is no real hypothetical here. Nothing but decades of decline and paradise lost forever. morally subhuman filth. Eat shit and die.
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>>533867875
>Society would collapse if red wins.
The amount of societal collapse would be directly correlated to the amount of people who picked blue, if a collapse even happened at all.
>>533867903
>There is nothing based about what you propose at all.
Way to out yourself retard
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>>533866249
> losing all the contributing volunteers
the fuck are you talking about? this is a test of if you can make a logical decision. nobody of value is pressing blue.
>nd anywhere from 1-49% of the population would be a bad thing
losing the retarded 49% of society would be a massive boon, especially in a democracy where each of those people is given an equal voice to destroy our society.
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So what's the appropriate punishment for those who demand Whites enter this suicide pact?
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Unfortunately, the vast majority of white people would press blue, but every non white would press red.

This is why things are the way they are
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>>533868044
You're guaranteed at least 10% in any retarded poll to go one way or another. Literally the Elvis factor. Blue is getting picked one way or another. Picking red means living with that.
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Someone post the video of the white guy jumping into the water to save a drowning black guy only to get drowned along with him. That’s the absolute state of blue button pushers.
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>>533867744
You still don't understand that you don't save or murder anyone on this.
>>533868017
I love how you just have to stretch the text to give space to the virtue signaling speech in contrast to the simple logic of the explanation in the original. As pasts threads has pointed out, Blue Pressers rely entirely on threats of shame and physical violence as well as creating imagined scenarios to justify picking a clearly wrong answer.
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>>533868017
>Has to make up imaginary scenarios where red pushers are retaliated against even in the best case scenario for no reason
So you're not even choosing blue to be altruistic, you're just choosing it so people don't hate you later possibly LOL
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>>533868017
this is retarded. the death of bluefags would usher in a new age of white rule and guarantee our continued existence. suicidal empathy is what is killing white nations.
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>>533865493
You don't control what others understand or press, so that is entirely a pointless argument. There is no "if".
Your obsession with abstraction is making you entirely unable to gauge a realistic situation.
Everyone presses red: no one dies
Everyone presses blue: no one dies

Is a situation where 100% presses a button in such a choice remotely realistic? No. Thus in the scenario presented choosing red is literal murderous madness and abject cowardice bordering on psychopathy and/or solipsism
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>>533860891
There is no reason to ever press blue. Red survives no matter what the result is, so pushing blue only puts you at risk.
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>>533868021
>you pick blue because you're some retarded leftist because they're also blue
Dumb color association nigger can't understand that whites are 8% of the global population, and 50+% of that population will pick blue and most of that will likely be 70+% of women, picking red means killing all of your white women and we're already in a downward population spiral with men fighting over the scraps as is.
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>>533865493
>Only if you press red is anyone at risk of dying.
In what universe?
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>>533868177
Why would a nig not choose the red button to save himself
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>>533868110
>Picking red means living with that.
Picking blue means not living at all.
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>>533867621
>pure self-preservation instict.

I think they'd pick red because there's another group they hate and they think will vote red to fuck them over. Take India and Pakistan for example, they'd have guys going around saying stuff like
>China will vote red because it's logical
>Also it's red
>If the other fuckers vote red we're already at 30%, we're fucked, vote red now.

On both sides so Red starts at something like 40%. If the buttons magically appear and you have ten minutes to pick there are quite a few who'd pick blue, if only because magic buttons prove there's a god and you might want to be performatively selfless for a bit, but the longer you let them think shit like this the more suicidal blue gets.
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>>533868213
Yeah, the suicidal altruism of whites is our biggest weakness. Browns may be dumb and violent, but they're not so stupid in that way as to willingly commit suicide over nothing.

Honestly, we'd be better off without them. If it were just rational whites and brownoids, we could still live like that and make it work.
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>>533868110
>>533868017
The argument against red is nothing more than social pressure

So gay and womanly
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>>533860891
were you born based or did you have to develop it?
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>>533867986
this experiment was already run. around 93% of whites got vaxed meaning around 93% of whites ruined or damaged their fertility and the fertility of their offspring. if you didn't get vaxed you are dancing in the rain already
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>>533866857
Press blue and no one dies, but you might risk to die
Press red and others will surely die, because you chose to kill them

They didn't choose to die. They chose for you to live. But you killed them
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>>533867460
it's like if the red room was completely safe and the blue room has a ceiling that will crush you unless there's enough people pushing back against it and the retards that jumped into the blue room are accusing you of killing them if you don't get in with them.
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>>533868017
blue is both the moral and rational option. reds are D&C glowniggers and self serving kikes
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To blue niggers, suppose after everyone picks their button everyone can see the results and you are given the opportunity to change which button you pressed, would you change it if more than 50% of people pressed the red button?
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>>533868228
Maybe just Whites should join the bluicide pact
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>>533860891
>the dumb half
While there are high IQ leftists out there, they are all fucking tools. The main thing required to be a leftists is being an unthinking sheeple who has never questioned any of their own beliefs. That covers 95% of them. The other 5% are complete sociopaths who thought Communism was a good not because it works but because they hope they'd be the ones in power.
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>>533863998
>"red button pushers are largely jeets and egotist psychos"
>ERM??? NO??? BLUE PUSHERS ARE THE RETARDS, RETARD. I HOPE YOU DIE
Like calling a nigger a nigger. TRD
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>>533868403
they did choose to die dumb faggot. i am not going to potentially kill myself to stop suicidal retards from doing so
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>>533868399
Thank you
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>>533860891
Even the tiniest amount of red muddies the water. A small amount of red will always exist. This is called original sin. To eliminate it would mean & require enlightenment.
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>>533868457
>RETARD ALERT
RETARD ALERT
>RETARD ALERT
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>>533868457
>Common sense is jewish
Is this really the angle you guys want to take from here?
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>>533868403
They didn't choose for me to live, I live regardless dumbass.
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>>533868399
>>533868177
This is actually something that gets taught when you lifeguard. When people are drowning they go full retard and their frontal lobes basically turn off. It's all lizard brain shit, and so they'll end up grabbing and drowning someone trying to save them just due to the pure instinct of trying to climb on top of the solid object coming up to them.

It's why when training you're basically taught you need to beat these people into submission in order to rescue them.
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>>533868377
>this experiment was already run.
No it wasn't. Covid was asking people to comply with a mystery vax or lose their job.
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>>533868504
if the vote was public non whites would all push blue to save face
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>>533868376
I have no idea if my morality and knowledge are pure or just built from experience, am i really smart or did i merely learn and practice long enough that im using my fake knowledge for new situations?

I wish my memory was completely wiped so i could answer this question
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>>533866108
If no one was pressing buttons, no one would be dying. The button scenario is what creates risk, or whoever imposed the choice on people. Pressing red means saying you're okay with everyone who pressed blue on accident, impulse, or simply by refusing to cause others' death including YOURS, dying
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>Blue fag need mass of stupid to survive
>Red fag survive no matter what
Nice
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>>533868546
>You need to beat the shit out of niggers in the water to save them and get paid for it
Shit I'm a pretty good swimmer sign me up
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>>533866341
They cause harm to blue pushers, and the harm is caused by red pushers, yes.
You're a moron if you don't get that you're killing blues who are voting for you to live. Normal people don't wish to live as murderers.
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>>533868624
if someone accidentally trips while running with scissors and stabs themselves in the heart and dies, is that also my fault?
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>>533868624
How do you feel about white people who go to africa to save the niggers, only to end up being eaten or raped?

I view blue pushers the exact same way.
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>>533868701
The harm is caused by their own actions.
Why are you people allergic to personal accountability?
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>>533865531
Odd jungle of mental gymnastics. Do you have a savior complex? I vote for personal responsibility. The task is very simple and fair. Pressing red means certain self-preservation. Everyone is free to choose this sane option. For a person to be in a position to do any good they have to be alive and hence their first job is to make sure they don't risk their life unnecessarily because of some emotional impulse. It follows that logically anyone who does not want to die presses red when the choice is REAL. Pressing blue means handing over control of your own life in the hope enough people make the same irrational decision with a self-appointed savior's mental gymnastics. If your estimate is right and enough people are irrational gamblers, then the outcome is good and you can breathe easy. If your estimate is wrong, you die. Red pressers who simply chose life like any healthy organism would by default live regardless of the outcome of the vote.

You would also tell your family members they are evil sociopaths if they choose the basic rational option to preserve their life. You would angrily wag your finger and tell them to gamble their life on the whims of irrational masses. This is your confused idea of good. Whereas the "sociopathic" and "evil" red presser would tell their family members to be sane and rational and preserve their life by pressing the red button and not to try to carry the burden of other people's potentially utterly irrational and suicidal choices.

Do you want to live or are you not sure? If you say yes, you choose red. If you say no but yes but not really but yes but it depends but no but maybe but no idk idc, then you press blue to take the difficult decision about self-preservation out of your hands and wait to see if others are similarly indecisive about the most basic thing in life.
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>>533868454
> the blue room has a ceiling that will crush you unless there's enough people pushing back against it and the retards that jumped into the blue room are accusing you of killing them if you don't get in with them
i've heard this one before!
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>>533868701
>who are voting for you to live
yet again you say this when it's not the case. Do you not actually understand the thought experiment or something?
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>>533866328
> A sensitive child, a Christian priest, a young emotional woman, an elder with not much left to live are suicidal and stupid
Then you're an animal. What are you going to do in a famine, eat your own children? After all not doing it would be suicidal and stupid!
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>>533868701
blue pushers are willingly and knowingly putting themselves in danger for no reason at all. i am not going to die for these retards. theyre the same type of people who dont want to lynch niggers because thats ebil :(((( and then the nigger kills 5 more people anyway
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>>533868792
So true. Everyone can push red and survive. Why is a humble red pusher's problem that some dumbass leftist wants to roll the dice to see if the masses of India care for "common human brotherhood"
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This isn't even the trolley question. Blue is putting yourself on the track while red is putting yourself next to the level.

Anyone who picks blue is getting all the risk with no reward compared to picking red which carries no risk and guarantees survival. Only an irrational person would pick blue when if everyone picks red it's the same result as a majority picking blue.
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>>533860891
Christianity dictates that you must press blue even if you are the only one.
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>>533868880
The jew doesn't understand that society needs people willing to stand in front of danger to protect others, if you send all of those people to their deaths you will die yourself shortly after
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>>533868454
it's like if every person in the red room made the ceiling of the blue room heavier
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>>533868912
That's what makes it interesting. The fact that there is an objectively correct answer where nobody has to die and nobody has to risk or give up anything, and yet there are legions of suicidal altruistic vaxxed retards who will still sign up for the suicide pact and then try to shame others into joining their suicide pact.

It's basically an allegory for the downfall of western civilization.
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There is a button in front of you. If 50% or more of respondents press the button, everyone who did not press the button dies. Clearly, the correct choice is to press the button.
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>>533869106
It always comes down to weak shaming attempts and emotional manipulation.
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>>533868993
They're not protecting anyone. They're actually just putting others in harms way because the very act of joining the suicide pact is a form of perverse coercion to try to get others to join.

If they actually wanted to protect others, they'd tell everyone else to press the red button too
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>>533869017
its not, but if that WERE the case, youd have to be even more retarded to willingly enter the blue cell
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>>533869211
If more than 50% pick blue, nothing happens. Most people will look at that question at a glance and say "nobody has to die over these" and pick blue. It's really that simple for most people
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>>533869253
it is. every red button press makes it more likely people die.
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>>533868050
>losing the retarded 49% of society would be a massive boon
>Actually loses the majority of women and especially children
>priests, volunteers and actually genuine caretakers all die
>grifters, scammers and liars, narcs, sociopaths and BPDs all survive
>shieeeeeeeeeeeeet
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>>533862332
Why do I find this so funny.
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>>533869393
best case scenario: nobody dies

worst case scenario:
every blue button press is another guaranteed death. every red button press is a life saved.

bluefags are death cultists.
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>>533869384
Most people, nowadays, ignore the facts and blindly walk into self perpetrated conflicts that won't happen if they don't go there in the first place, which is why we have the current state of the world at this time. People would just die for nothing just like that.
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>>533869408
Women run society today and the result is white genocide, so yeah boo hoo. It's called a survival event where defectives are removed from the gene pool
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>>533869393
>100% red button presses
>0% chance of death as a result
comeon man atleast try
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>>533869408
Therefore we would need to convince our friends and family to choose red.
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>>533869642
Having a White family that understands basic game theory makes this step unnecessary.
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>>533869593
You play with hypotheticals ignoring that 43% in OP's pic picked red. You know full well people are picking blue
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>>533869393
With only your direct experience to keep in mind, and no imagining hypothetical scenarios in your head, what's the correct choice here?
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>>533868368
The argument for red is nothing more than pure cowardice.
Would Hitler press red?
Would a roman soldier in a testudo press red, or any warrior or soldier, knowing his comrades could die?

Pressing red is being a rat, not even human.
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>>533869393
Every blue pusher is someone jumping overboard and drowning in the ocean, begging and pleading that others also jump into the water and risk their own lives to save them.

How about you stop being a niggerish leech and just don't do the suicidal thing in the first place?
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>>533869691
I know people are going to say that they'd pick blue.
I feel very confident that the majority would end up choosing red no matter what we argue about here, so I'm just not gonna choose the "death" option.
Cling to your poll though I'm sure lots of chinese, africans, and indians took it.
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>>533869712
I would pick blue because I know full well a world where red wins would just be India everywhere and everything good and beautiful dies, I don't want to live in that world
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>>533869726
>youre a coward if you dont want to kill yourself for no reason

how about you go ahead and kill yourself right now? dont be a hypocrite
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>>533868203
No one is shaming you. There are a thousand arguments for blue because it's right in every way. Since red pressers like to pretend to be rational, a rational argument is used. But the true nature of reds is being simply scum with no ability to think of the future.

Red has been proven multiple times to be disastrous for society in every conceivable way, equaling to a cataclysm, where all the innocent die, and every survivor knows himself to be a murdered.
Are you gonna watch the piles of bodies of kindergarten-age kids dead and go "hey they were stupid"?
This is not a threat, it's the logical consequence of your decision

In other words, will a child raised by niggers press red more or less than a child raised by pro-social whites?
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>>533869850
> I know full well a world where red wins would just be India everywhere and everything good and beautiful dies
No imagining hypothetical scenarios in your head. Or what? You couldn't read that one too?
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>>533869726
>If you pick red u meanie head!!1!
It's not cowardice to refuse to commit suicide pointlessly
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>>533860891
The question is, does everyone know this about the red/blue buttons? If yes, then why would anyone press blue at all?
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>>533869987
>You couldn't read that one too?
I ignored it because the premise was retarded, and I decided to impose my answer regardless
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jews are in this thread, pressing red and telling others to press blue btw
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>>533864452
this is what I also don't get about this exercise
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>>533869726
I imagine they'd all pick red because they're not retarded
Cowardice implies there's an actual reason to put your life at risk. There's not. Everyone can pick red, anyone who chooses blue is choosing to kill themselves and that's nobody's fault but their own. Choosing red isn't cowardice, it's rejecting stupidity. It's no more cowardly than choosing drive off in your car rather than stand your ground against a grizzly bear for absolutely no reason than some suicidal form of pride.
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>>533869985
>If you choose red the sky will fall, volcanoes will erupt, and santa will put coal in your stockings

lol shut the fuck up dumbass
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>>533869985
If your concern is that other people are retarded and don't understand the prompt, why don't you just explain to everyone that they can all press red and everyone gets to live. Instead you evangelize that everyone should join your potential death cult, which is obviously immoral.
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>>533869726
These arent comparable situations.

Literally everyone could survive by pressing red. With blue, it's realistically a 50/50 whether half of humanity dies or not, we dont actually have any reason to think it will go one way or another. In fact, if this was a real scenario, Id suspect most people would press red when their life is on the line

>it's cowardly to not want to die
This is the dumbest reasoning Ive heard. It's hardwired into us to not want to die especially for literally nothing. So you can virtue signal and say youre one of the good people who pressed blue
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>>533870103
>jews are in this thread, pressing red and telling others to press blue btw
kek
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>>533860891
>just push red ad infinitum goy it's the rational choice so everyone pushing blue had it coming hehe
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>>533868213
there is no such thing as suicidal empathy. You're again proving that you're entirely retarded like all red pressers.
You get immigration because it's good for business, not for any "empathy". The virtue signaling is simply an excuse people use for their benefit. Yes everyone who speaks in favor of immigration doesn't give a shit for immigrants. They actually directly benefit. Think of that. Only you who doesn't benefit are actually affected by the peer pressure and believe it to be real.
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>>533860891
Nigger
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>>533869985
>There are a thousand arguments for blue because it's right in every way.
Except there are not? If anything, people picking blue would be worse in a global scale because it shows that the person is willing to just get themselves into problems for no reason and ignore that is stated that pressing red is the only option with no arm for no one at all, because blue is the one, again, that switch on the possibility of anyone dying, while red is simply "nobody dies, nothing happens". That kind of person is not reliable, at all; they would "sacrifice" themselves and put people in danger for a false sense of self righteousness, and then kill people acknowledging the truth because the facts disagree with your choice to die.
>>533870090
Yes, i think people who pick blue just don't pay attention or play dumb. In that case, sure, go ahead.
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>>533870347
>there is no such thing as suicidal empathy
ahahahahhaahaahha RETARD!!!
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>>533869930
the blue button doesn't say "I'm killing myself", it says "I'm saving the lives of altruistic and innocent people (like children). All of them at once"
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>>533867542
>he thinks the intelligent women are the ones having children

Either way, red is the correct choice.
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>>533870347
>Somalian fraudsters are good for business
>What, you don't care about non-assimilating Muslims, chud?
>Suicidal empathy? No I just want to kill myself for brown people what are you talking about?
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>>533870010
It's cowardice to choose to murder millions to prevent a CHANCE of your death
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game theory crunched the prisoner dilemma into tiny particles, if you picked blue you're a literal fucking tard
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>>533870347
>there is no such thing as suicidal empathy
this is demonstrably false when every single one of your posts is trying to convince and shame others into joining a suicide pact for absolutely zero reason.
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>>533870103
/thread
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>>533870314
> Literally everyone could survive by pressing red
That's an autistic missing the forest for the trees. In the scenario you know for a fact a large percentage will pick blue, so a situation where everyone picks red doesn't exist
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>>533870444
Except it does if you think for 2 seconds about WHO IS GOING TO BE PRESSING THE BUTTON
You'd just be killing yourself to not save anybody.
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>>533870444
>90% of people vote red
>because, no shit, when an individual's life is on the line they save themselves at all cost
>vote blue and chose to die with infants, cat ladies, ideological enemies and other irrational people

Do you think you can take your good feelings about being virtuous to the afterlife?
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>>533870444
No, it's saying "I'm going to kill myself unless you unnecessarily risk yourself by joining me"
Every person who pushes that blue button is someone who is inherently trying to drag others down to hell with them. You are immoral, and you don't even realize it.
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>>533870444
If this is a common ballot, why are children allowed to vote? Does this includes newborn babies or they measure who is conciouss enough to make this choice? Again, you are really make a lot of shit up to justify getting yourself killed and try to convince other to do the same (which you would not be able to do anyway. Is stated on the experiment).
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>>533870658
Can your brain even process the people that might press the blue button? Hint: it's recursive.

Otherwise there's no point arguing.
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>>533870444
blue button pressers are choosing to kill themselves. red has 0% chance of death. blue has >0% chance of death. if you press blue you are choosing to potentially die unless enough other people choose to partake in your suicide cult. blue is evil and convincing others to press blue is murderous
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>>533870603
Your logic is fundamentally flawed because you keep claiming choosing red is killing, when in reality choosing blue is suiciding.
Sorry I'm not cursed with suicidal empathy.
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>>533870785
If someone chooses to swallow 200 xanax tablets and overdose themselves into a coma is that also my fault? Is everyone deliberating doing something suicidal my responsibility?

How about you just don't do the obviously dangerous suicidal thing, did you think of that one?
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>>533870176
> there's an actual reason to put your life at risk
millions of people being exposed to the risk of death if they choose to be altruistic for your sake isn't a reason to return the favor? Sure, keep telling yourself that
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>>533870773
Either betray your fellow man to serve the aliens or die with everyone else fighting the aliens except maybe you'll actually live, is what this whole question is a testing ground for
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>>533870946
people are suicidal and might kill themselves. im not going to kill myself just because they want to. retard. how about you kill yourself right here, right now, in solidarity with all blue pressers??
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>>533870925
They are choosing to jump in the drowning pool and then getting upset when you don't jump in after them. Stay out of the water, and don't die. It's that simple.
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>>533870785
>Can your brain even process the people that might press the blue button?
If is about hypotheticals and making shit up on the spot firsthand, can you fathom also the possibility that everyone can press red as well? Is the only choice where nobody dies, but the moment you press blue, you are the one putting lifes at risks, including yours at hand of your own stupidity.
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>>533869985
This is all emotional pleading on top of your usual insults (sociopaths, cowards, scum, etc.). No such thing has been proven, there are no thousand arguments proving pressing blue is right in every way, none of that is true.
>Are you gonna watch the piles of bodies of kindergarten-age kids dead and go "hey they were stupid"?
So we again returned to this, the last emotional plea for the children. No one is allowed to tell the children that we all press the red button here because we are rational animals instead of irrational animals. You need the toddlers to rush to death so you can be the savior and bask in your glory. Let's face it. If you include little children, you make the thought experiment an experiment in manipulating people's emotions, nothing else. That is how weak your argument is. You have to use every emotional extortion, insult, and trick to guilt rational people into voting blue. Sad. It will be red button all the way, Luigi. It's over for the azzurri.
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>>533870925
>for your sake
but I chose red
I would prefer it if they chose red too, because then they'd have a higher chance of living.
But if they want to kill themselves I can't stop them, and I'm not playing Russian roulette because of their poor reasoning abilities.
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>>533870925
>they choose to be altruistic
It's not altrustic it's just suicidal. None of them have to die, they could just make a logical and safe choice. Theyre chosing to expose themselves to risk that Im not willing to expose myself to.

>That's an autistic missing the forest for the trees
I know there are a large portion of people who think ideologically or emotionally, rather than logically. Why would I get myself killed just to prove Im not selfish? Nobody has an obligation to die for someone else's irrational choices



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