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The only thing Russia demanded after the orange revolution in Ukraine is that people in Donbass would be allowed to speak Russian and vote. This was a civilized compromise documented and agreed by all sides. It turned out after 8 years nobody really planned to follow the agreement and the west was using the time to stuff Ukraine with weapons so it can fight once Russia realizes she was scammed. For some reason the west though Ukraine would win. Now we have 50 years war that will end up with total destruction of Europe, permanent this time. What causes this?
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I seriously doubt that there were ever language police patrolling to make sure that people weren't speaking Russian
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>>533866163
literally the same guys now catch dudes on the streets to die for Ursula, welcome to Ukraine
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>>533866057
Russia could also just offered any Russian in Ukraine to move to Russia and provide everyone with a house and a job.
So all the Russians move from Donbass to Russia, Ukraine has no reason to attack anyone or to arm themselves more and everyone wins.
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>>533866557
And how would you tell who is Russian who is Ukrainian in this case? What if some hohols wanted to move to get a free house?
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>>533866057
you forgot about the Ukrainian shelling of Donbass as a daily occurrence for 7 years
>>533866557
why? if they offered you a house and land back in ethiopia would you move?
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>>533866690
>What if some hohols wanted to move to get a free house?
russia took millions of Ukrainian refugees too.
these could have also been provided with a house and a job.
also remember there would be no sanctions on Russia and everyone would still freely trade with them.
>>533866716
>if they offered you a house and land back in ethiopia would you move?
but I'm not from ethiopia so I have no business there meanwhile Russia/Ukraine is basically the same place.
if you disagree with the new post maidan Ukrainian government you could just move to Russia instead.
same language, same culture, same background.
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>>533866557
also what would they do with their houses? To gift, like pretty much every infrastructure in East Europe. Every butthurbelter spreads there russophobia online sitting in a commieblcok they still haven't payed for. And flats there are not cheap. All the soviet property there should be evaluated and invoiced.
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>>533866860
Why would Russia provide anything to Ukrainians?
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>>533866874
with the money they wasted on the Ukraine war and lost through sanction they could have build a mansion for everyone lmao.

>>533866949
why go to war over ukrainian land?
instead they could have ukrainian workers.
that way they dont have to import pajeets or chinks or africans and can stay white.
Russians and Ukrainians are basically the same people.
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>>533867061
but the decision to annex it was made after 10 years of waiting for compromise, simply because there was no other option to help the people living there
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>>533866557
Yeah lets ignore the genocide Ukraine pulled for years. The more recent one btw, i get how that might be confusing for you.
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>>533867175
overall russia lost more than 1 trillion dollars since 2014, closer to 2 trillion actually.
if they didnt get involved in this bullshit they would be like 20-30% richer in total.
>>533867188
Ukraine wanted to stop the russian financed protests in the eastern region and the russians escalated it and then claimed crimea and donbass for themselves.
the PMC Wagner guy basically confirmed it when he said he was there from day 1.
so its not like Russia and Putin are the victims here.
they knew what they were doing, so instead of sending PMCs and criminals to Ukraine they could have just said: "look any Russian or Ukrainian in Ukraine is welcome to move to russia and gets assistance".
this would have prevented the conflict, made everyone richer and millions of people would still be alive doing productive stuff.
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>>533866163
Especially since the two language is identical



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