China just made Silicon Valleys AI pricing look like a scam.Yesterday, Chinese startup DeepSeek released V4 (preview): a powerful open-source MoE model (V4-Pro with 1.6T total params) with 1M token context. It matches or closely competes with top US closed models (like GPT-5.5 / Claude) on key benchmarks.Crucially, it was trained and optimized to run efficiently on Huawei Ascend chips - first major shift away from Nvidia reliance, after US export bans since 2022.Pricing is extremely brutal: $3.48 per million output tokens vs GPT-5.5 at $30-$180 (7-50x cheaper). One example: Ubers 2026 AI budget (burned in 4 months on Anthropic) would last +7 years on DeepSeek. xDDeepSeek even published full benchmarks showing where it trails frontier models by 3-6 months. They dont cherry-pick, this massive cost/performance gap makes it irrelevant for most use cases. US chip bans didnt slow China, they significantly accelerated technological progress there. They forced radical efficiency, turning constraint into advantage. Chinese chip stocks surged now while US competitors dropped. Jensen Huang called this outcome "horrible" for the US and it just happened.Ameeimutts lost again in the only field that they consider as last-chance wunderwaffe: the AI. They literally mass-murder their own unproductive/degenerate/high-resource-consuming citizens with modRNA/LNP technology to replace them with data centers and gain a superiority over China this way. xD
>>533889003Still dependant on TSMC for fab, no?
>>533889313Not for long either xD
>>533889003One problem retard, only the most expensive available models cost 20-100 per million tokens. Every version of Claude has Opus and Sonnet versions, Google has pro and flash versions, GPT has pro and fast, Grok has fast and heavy, and all of the cheaper models have costs comparable/smaller then Deepseek. Gemini 3.1 flash for example costs like 1.5 dollars per million tokens, it’s not a game changer to anyone who isn’t completely uninformed, every company can do distillations, chinks didn’t even invent distillation.
>>533890077You are a fkn retard. DeepSeek Flash variant is $0.28/M output, undercutting many "fast" tiers like Gemini Flash while matching stronger performance. The gap on capable models is real and massive for scale. Distillation isnt new, but Huawei-optimized efficiency + open MoE at this price is. xD
fuck it.. not a fan of China (or contemporary US behaviour, for that matter), but competition is a good thing.. USA needs pressure on it to become less socialist and stop going down Jewish toilet
>>533890400The West should focus on things it excels at: developing new genders, breeding women with niggers, turning children into tranny freaks, raping/torturing/eating toddlers, parade with rainbow flags and naked asses etc. Technological race with China is a pipe dream, considering intellectual, cultural and ethnical composition of the West xD
>>533890182Give it few weeks and new state of the art model gets released undermining everything. It’s always the same story, random US lab becomes the undisputed winner for a month, then another company released new gen, then towards the end of the gen Chinese release their open source cheaper model, and then it becomes irrelevant with new gen from US.
>>533890468I wish all the worst to USrael. It is a cancer sucking vital fluids from the planet Earth xD
>>533890182Thanks ChatGPT. That was not only informative — it was entertaining. I hate slop bots so much you wouldn't believe.
>open-sourceI kneel. Give me those home ias.
BTW, i think that Mutts just arranged fake assassination attempt on the orange retard only to turn away attention from DeepSeek crushing US tech stocks xD
>>533890464Chinese are strong at rote mathematics.. West is strong at individual thought and the creativity that it breeds.. West should restore itself so that competition with the East becomes a net plus.. none of this needs to be interpreted as zero sum game
>>533890400You mean pressure to become more socialist like china? Socialism is the key to progress. It literally lifted your country from monkey to tier to semi modern tier aswell lol. Y
>>533890769 >West is strong at individual thought and the creativity that it breedsLike inventing new genders and blaiming Putin for its all self-made problems and shortages? xD
chink shill ai bot thread xD
>>533890967Yes, West is Jewed-up and retarded lately.That's why it needs to restore itself (behave less Jewed-up).
>>533889003>once again, chinks are bragging about how fast they can rip off US techThat's all they've got anon, a cheaper version of what we already invented.
>>533891321Good luck in fast reversal of last stages of idiocracy and degeneracy being a result of last few decades of social engineering xD
>>533891404>rip off US techThats already pathetic at this point. xD
>>533890900No retard absolutely not.Free enterprise, human-rights --those are the things that make us strong.
>>533889003>AIno such thingnever was and never will be
>>533891634>human rightsYeah like releasing pedophiles back into the society.Meanwhile China hands out death penalties to corrupt politicians.It's all optics of course, but the West still pales in comparison.
the most valuable thing a chink can ever get is white attention, which is why they make these horrendous threads on /pol/ begging for white validation/attention
>>533889313They solved the Zeiss lens equations ages ago. It's so over for the capitalist goon class in Zoglandia. Fuck America, Asia wins. Americans are fucking retarded, classless, and heartless barbarians
>>533889003I love China so much, bros.
In short, TAD
>>533889003>It matches or closely competes with top US closed models (like GPT-5.5 / Claude) on key benchmarks. No, it doesn't. You're a tech illiterate dunning-kruger faggot and should stop spreading your worthless opinions about things that you have no clue about. Fucking tiresome xD signing posting idiot.
>>533890660China democratizes AI, it already democratized drone-warfare : mass and scaled up assembly of drones for both: Russia and Ukraine would be impossible without Chinese components, 3D printers and crucial materials. Now, the Chinese try to democratize access to hypersonic gliders that could potentially give access to tech owned only by China/Russia to everybody. This way the world could easily get rid of these 300 US boats that try to control crucial trade choke points. The US can no longer replenish its warships as its shipyard output is microscopic. It is one-use Navy xDhttps://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/531608461/
>>533891885Free speech, private property, right to bear arms.. all the stuff that makes West superior to East (when it's not totally Jewed up and backwards like it is now)
>>533889003Ahh the>pls invest china, china noombahh wunnnthread.
