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Invited: Europeans

Not invited: Non-Europeans

How would you change Europe, lads?
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Also, do you agree with Macron, who recently said that the US, China, and Russia are all "against" Europe? Pic related.

https://archive.is/hM96O
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mined borders policed by AI contolled hunter/killer dones
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>>533898817
Step one: destroy the EU and burn all the freeloaders in their tower of babel.
Step two: mass remigration and a moratorium on any new asylum seekers
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>How would you change Europe
Remove everyone who isn't European for a start.
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>>533898817
TOTAL EU DEATH!
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>>533898864
it's true, Europe is surrounded by enemies, and none of them are human
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hi
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>>533898817
Just kill the EU and Europe will get in order.
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>European politics
>OP is a bong
Brits left Europe, remember?
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>>533899086
This and maybe nuke London so its not so expensive to deport all those subhuman low IQ shitskins.
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>>533898932
It's so simple and easy.
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>>533898886
>>533898948
>>533899086
>destroy the eu
But the EU enables European cooperation. Europe should unite more. Europe's enemies want to divide and conquer Europe. If Europe works together, it will better protect itself. Pic related.
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>>533898817
>How would you change Europe, lads?
politicians should face consequences. Ideology is a scam to trick idiots. All that matters is creating the largest middle class as possible.

this can be apply to non-european countries.
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>>533899298
Fuck your cooperation. Germany destroyed the European continent for the third time.
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>>533899140
We're sorry.
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>>533898817
Invited : jews and shitskins
Not invited : Europeans
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Jewish_Parliament
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>>533898864
I played some counter strike with some frogs yesterday and they kept chanting MACRON DEMISSION
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>>533899298
>. If Europe works together, it will better protect itself.
Protect itself from who exactly?
Besides the enemy inside the gates, let in by the EU bureaucrats and their ilk, who is a threat to Europe?
Russia? They can't make it 10kms past their border.
China? They're going to kill their cash cow?
Iran? Don't make me laugh.
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>>533899140
This is how EU niggers actually think.
>>533899298
>But the EU enables European cooperation
No.
>If Europe works together, it will better protect itself
The Kalergi dystopian superstate aka EU is by no means the standard for cooperation. It has been and will continue to be focused on destroying Europe until nothing remains.
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>>533899140
Don't play by their rules and vocab.
EU ≠ Europa
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>>533898817
UK isn't European
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The European Union is the Way, the Truth and the Life. We need more of it not less. The EU has been largely left unfinished
>there are still trade barriers between EU countries
Especially food products, chemicals, construction materials and consumer goods STILL can have different rules in different EU countries. there are different reporting systems for each nation, there are language requirements for labels (JUST MAKE IT A FUCKING QR CODE), etc. these barriers are equivalent to internal tariffs of 10-30% depending on the sector
>we need to finish the single market for services
every country has its own licensing rules and recognition procedures are slow, uncertain and costly. ie lawyers, architect and engineers often have to re-qualify in a different EU member state - its retarded
>we need to finish the EU banking union
bank deposits in the euro area should be insured at the EU level instead of the national level. currently national schemes differ widely in size, credibility and fiscal backstop
>the capital markets union is unfinished
There is no central IPO listing in the EU. when you go and list your company you have to do this on the national level, and national markets do not have the liquidity required to make our companies grow. Also wtf is an american going to do? Hes at best looking at the german market, not at lithuania or romania or whatever. those company listings will never get the attention they deserve
>defense
this is of course an emerging issue, but if/when NATO stops to exist in we need to have EU strategic command capabilities similar to the pentagon

we need to btfo human trafficking to the EU forever
>frontex power to charter flights and coordinate national return operations
>eu-wide database to link asylum and return records
>return hubs outside of the EU
>use visa leverage; countries refusing to take back citizens should face restrictred visa issuance
Thankfully all this was recently agreed upon and is in the works for technical implementation
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arrest the corruptos
including the Belgians covering up for EU crimes
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>>533898817
I just don't want Europe to be the values of the talmud anymore
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>>533898817
you can't change a judeomasonic anti-white entity that has Kalergi has a founder a foundational myth.
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>>533899706
the biggest threat to unified europe is the US. russia dont care, the only security risk for them is revanchism and without that all they cared about was selling energy. hence, every vassal of the us inside the EU such as poland is a threat to europe and why europe will never really take off the way it should.
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>>533899404
EU:
>Political freedom
>High GDP
>High standard of living
The alternative, which is Moscow taking over much of Europe again:
>Imprisonment for criticising the government
>Low GDP
>Low standard of living

>>533899706
>who is a threat to Europe
See: >>533898864

>>533899755
>The Kalergi dystopian superstate aka EU is by no means the standard for cooperation. It has been and will continue to be focused on destroying Europe until nothing remains.
The EU exists to represent European interests. The European Parliament is elected by Europeans. The Parliament then approves the composition of the European Commission (e.g. Von Der Leyen as President of the Commission).
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>>533899913
>>Imprisonment for criticising the government
Vincent Reynouard is going back to jail soon and have to pay 80 000€ to jewish organisms.
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>>533899913
EU:
>importing shitskins from 3rd world countries
>EU laws are above national laws
>DEI, ESG, LGBT, CO2 taxes, electric car mandates and additional cancer
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>>533899971
Soral was smarter fleeing to Moscow.
He would be behind bars rn if he didn't do that.
I get that Vincent would have been probably thrown into a dungeon by monke as well because of revisionism.
The only real safe heavens today are Japan, NK and Iran.
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>>533900035
Immigration policy always has been on member state level. Various member states have had various immigration policies with various results. Countries were importing shitskins long before the European Union was first established in 1992. There have been some attempts to streamline things on EU level. For example the Dublin accords of 2013 saying migrants must be processed by the first EU member state they enter. Something that immediately broke with the huge migrant wave of 2015/16 (wir schaffen das, let in by germany). This caused things like the Turkey Deal (EU basically pays off Turkey to block migrants).
It has always been the nation states that have let in the shitskins and always been the EU that has attempted to stem the flow. Hopefully with the very strict new EU laws it can stop the member states from letting in as many shitskins.
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>>533898817
>How would you change Europe
Americans out, Russians in, Jews down
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>>533898932
/thread
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Went for a long walk in my city this morning. Clear blue sky, crispy clean air, everywhere healthy looking white people. Life's good and Europe is good. Anyone who claims our countries and our civilisation is evil and satanic is a blackpilled faggot or an enemy.
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>>533898817
Stop propping up western european welfare states. Germany and France got into their heads that the good times will last forever and they can be goody two-shoes now, so they gave up on high-tech industry and invited millions of browns. Now they're consuming the rest of the EU so their dream can last a little while longer.
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>>533900795
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>>533898817
Europe is a lost continent. Pathological empathy and mass child mentality ruin white societies.
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>>533898817
>How would you change Europe, lads?
DEATH TO EU DEATH TO NATO
FREXIT
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>>533900795
you are evil and satanic. all the world's cancer comes from your continent and you have infected the usa for far too long
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>>533901504
There is no usa without Europe you spicoid mutt
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>>533898817
>How would you change Europe, lads?
We should remove 90% of the taxes and regulations.
Redistribution and most of regulations are there to keep the evil, the weak and the parasite alive from the work of the good and competent people.
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>>533899823
LARPing mouthbreather kek
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>>533898817
>How would you change Europe, lads?
White fortress Europe where browns, jews, gypsies and muslims are rounded up and dumped in some no-man's land in war-torn country or simply executed for the sake of convenience since their home countries don't want them anyway.
No taxation on food, firearms and occupied housing because it's immoral to force people to pay extra to live and defend themselves. You can own (2 + number of your children) of housing units, anything above that will be intentionally taxed to hell and back to bankrupt you if you aren't going to sell it within a year. If you'll have to drop price to nearly free then so be it. No such thing as excessive force when defending against thieves, killers and actual rapists and pedophiles.
Penalties for crime are multiplied by 2 for foreigners and false accusations because whole purpose of system can't treat others better than those who maintain it, and trying to use it for your own, selfish goal defeats whole purpose of public system and erodes its foundation.
People who have no record of theft, murder and being locked up in mental institution can buy and own firearms with no additional requirements.
Stock market fucks off from military, housing, food, medicine and education sectors. If you want to gamble and speculate then do so on non-essentials.
Focus on nuclear energy with keeping like 10-30% coal because in case of war or failure you need them to jumpstart nuclear plants. Assign grants to whoever comes up with more efficinet ways of energy storage to actually be able to exploit unstable renewable energy without damaging power grid used for stable energy.
Drilling mountains to build couple essential factories and emergency power plants. If we're dropping coal production then there would be lot of miners seeking work anyway.

1/X
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>>533902760
Everyone gets some technical education. But you want to be doctor? Well, then you'll be doctor who also learnt how to fix car engines, or cut hair, or perform simple vet stuff on animals. Limit recruitment only for non-essential stuff in universities. Paths like engineering, medicine etc shall have unlimited slots and unfit people should be simply filtered out by exams. Everyone learns to shoot. Preferably to moving targets like drones. Everyone learns to kill by regularly taking students to shoot cow or something when it's ripe for harvesting meat, so they would learn at least a little value of life, responsibility of taking it and doing it in humane way, with bullet to the brain or something.
Deply computers running medical diagnostic models with testing equipment in healthcare buildings that would lessen burden on doctors when it comes to diagnosis of most common shit like cold, throat inflammation etc, to shorten waiting lines in healthcare. Med technicians with high school degree would be there just to help with operating it and replacing/disinfecting proping equipment.
Nuclear proliferation. Each city is tasked to build shelters in multiple spots. For home owners and countryside just task universities to design some affordable lower cost family shelters you can turn basement into while building home, or build in garden next to house.
Mandatory service. Men get military training while women get care trainig. You deliberately plan it so they would get to meet each other to increase chances of people finding future spouse. Like in case of injury you send young man to be treated by young women under supervision of senior nurse. Or each weekend some female food corps are tasked to cook on near industrial scale and feed men in military training. Or whenever something breaks in female camps you send engineering corps to fix it. Men and women both serving and meeting there seems to work for jews.

2/X
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>>533898817
ACCELERATE !
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>>533898864
>"dead against' (((us)))
he isnt talking about europe, but eu
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>>533902831
In case of war you either go yourself or send your first-born. People who can't go due to playing key roles in maintenance of system send two first-borns. If not all then at least politicians. For them it's mandatory no matter what.
Lowered entry bars into politics and actual age cap on performing roles in high positions. At certain age like 55 or so you are forced to change into advicory position and spend next 5-10 years passing your experience to next next batch out of which best ones will replace you. Then you retire at like 60-65.
Crackdown on child support evaders, including forced labor if there is no money, but at the same time mandatory paternity tests at birth so no man would pay for someone's else child. Every family-oriented handicap like maybe housing help or whatever is valid only as long as family stays together to not promote failures like single parenthood. It is immoral to force society to pay for your irresponsibility in picking decent partner and actually maintaining relationship with your effort instead of just hopping in hopes of finding perfection off the shelf. If you can't be bothered to put effort in that, no one is going to put effort to maintain your delusions and weaknesses.
Also corruption in politics is punished with public execution.
If nothing works, take away women's voting rights and make them property of their fathers and later husbands.

But that's just a dream. You could maybe do it on national level. And you'd probably need actual civil war for it to remove old bloat and corrupt shitters to even have opportunity to get enough power to do it.
In any case, that would be the only Europe worth fighting and abandoning national sentiment for. If Europe can't provide that then it's not worth sacrifice. No one is going to fight for faggots and bottle caps. Offer people payment, rifle and support for shooting migrants on the borders and it'd be start of earning back people's trust.

3/3
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>>533898864
Yes, but he forgot the UK
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>>533903066
>when you import more somalians you win
Classic sven
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>>533899298
EU is just another layer for corruption. It's doomed to fail. Europe has too long history with actual nations and you aren't getting rid of it in such easy way. Each country tries to pull its own way. Just look at France which would love european army but only if they get to lead while others bleed on the front, or Germany which sure loves european grants on modernization but only when you buy their machines and products, not polish, french or chinese. Corrupt government and corporate elites are filled with old fucks who would rather sell their children's future by importing niggers in false hopes of propping up dead system instead of actually changing it and lessening their grip on everything so young people could actually afford to get homes and breed. And then they delegate some of their corrupt people to make another layer of corruption on european level. This shit is not salvagable due to human nature. Opportunism is part of nature seen among all life. Few people can withstand temptation and while we're all european whites, there are still enough genetic differences to turn it into competition of tribes in the end. The only condition under which different tribes unite is having common extarnal threat. Maybe it could be US seeing how orange clown basically thinks world is Jew York where you can win as rich poser so he burns bridges due to incompetence while trying to squeeze everything out of "allies" to prop up his dying system, just like boomers squeeze youth. Maybe it could be Russia, Europe could get easily extractable resources. But then old interests would crawl back and for example germans would try to hog it all.
As long as someone will want to lead, EU will always be failed project. It could work if you found someone of caliber of Tito, who held everyone by the face equally, but such people are rare. And centralized system is volatile high-risk-high-reward because if decent leader gets replaces by shitty one, you get Balkan wars.
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>>533898817
Hey, i used to make these threads.
The nippon is one of two russians hiding in japan. You can ignore them.
The dutch wants to burn down EU first and is complete anti reform. Otherwise proper guy.
The french is on your side, just don't bring up the issue of brussels and strasbourg. Also otherwise a proper guy.
>How would you change Europe, lads?
One population vote in every not election year. People need to be involved instead of feeling Brussels is far away. Also 8years cap on presidency. Also allow Frontex to just shoot boats.
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>>533898817
>Give Poland and Baltics to Russia as a sign of good will and reset of relations while avoiding WW3
>Remove all embargo and re-establish trade between Russia and the actual real Europe, not the shit heels trying to leech and hide behind NATO
>Europe booms again, and becomes prosperous

ez
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>>533898817
>How would you change Europe
nuke brussels
death to eurocrats and every useful idiot europoor coping so hard they borderline stroke out about how great the eussr is compared to evil america
fuck off socialist scum
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>>533899823
Remove Turkey from that fucking map you insane psychopath.
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>>533899971
>He was found guilty of denying war crimes, denying crimes against humanity, and incitement to racial hatred.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd65exzqyn3o

I don't think that's the same thing as criticising the government. In Russia if you hold up a sign in public saying:
>I think the government was wrong to invade Ukraine
You'd probably be arrested. But in France if you hold up a sign in public saying:
>I think the government was wrong to outlaw Holocaust denial
Would you be arrested? All you'd be doing is criticising the government rather than denying the Holocaust.

>>533900035
>importing shitskins from 3rd world countries
As the Dutch anon said, immigration from outside the EU is something determined by each EU country, rather than the EU itself, right? Also I don't think ethnicity or national origin matters. If an immigrant contributes and abides by the law then I don't care what their ethnicity or national origin is.
>EU laws are above national laws
Yes. Just like when the United States was formed, the colonies agreed to form a centralised government with laws that would apply to them all. You could say it's a compromise, but those colonies joined the United States because they recognised they were stronger together than apart.
>DEI, ESG, LGBT, CO2 taxes, electric car mandates and additional cancer
DEI means fairness. Would you like it if a company discriminated against you based on your ethnicity? Probably not. That's why we have DEI. LGBT is not something you have to take part in, obviously. Giving people rights doesn't mean you have to do what they do. CO2 taxes I think make sense in big cities where the air is polluted due to so many cars.
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>>533903847
>immigration from outside the EU is something determined by each EU country, rather than the EU itself, right?
is that why brussels penalises countries such as poland and hungary for not taking their share of shitskins?
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>>533900386
>Immigration policy always has been on member state level.
But now it's not true. The EU pushes quotas and punishments on member states. They also just call every trespasser a refugee so you are mandated to allow them in.
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ingerlund should just declare war on the euroviet union since denmarkistan is selling F-16's to Argentina who now will take back the Falklands no doubt, not that the ingerlund military is worth pajeet shit-stains but I just want all the nigger cattle and their humanoid critter pests to kill and eat each other already.
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>>533903847
>DEI means fairness.
>LGBT is not something you have to take part in
One shekel has been deposited into your account.
You pushed your role a bit too far. It’s clear that you’re not being sincere.
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>>533898817
By genociding the germans and french, then nuking london
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>>533903847
>I think the government was wrong to outlaw Holocaust denial
>Would you be arrested? All you'd be doing is criticising the government rather than denying the Holocaust.
You'd be fined for antisemitism, moron.
I thought this would turn out a better thread..
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>>533898817
>open up Groningen gas fields again
>can now afford to stop importing amerimutt gas
>reduce oil imports from middle east
>invest those leftover trillions in capital in energy transition, nuclear reactors and own defense
>continue to strengthen our trade union
>deport all niggers
>fuck everyone else, especially jews and their mutt golems
It's the most logical plan.
>>533898864
There are no allies, just mutually beneficial agreements.
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>>533903847
Go to plebbit shill.
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>>533898817
WE NEED MORE MIGRANTS
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>>533898932
Who even is European? Yuros have people that are the most genetically predisposed to manletry in the world.
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>>533899140
Yep, it lifted itself up on two comically skinny legs, pickup a briefcase and a cane and trotted off in the direction of the Atlantic.
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DEATH TO ALL AMERICANS
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>>533905476
rent free tranny. Can’t wait to watch you get hit by a drone in poland on liveleak once we leave nato
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>>533899140
They never were part of Europe.
Anglos, jews, bad news.
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>>533905539
he's a mudshit shitskin, he'll be in pakistan long before the drafts begin
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>>533905539
Just do it, nigger.
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>>533905539
fuck off jew/amerigoy
you're not invited
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>>533898817
>change Europe
you're not in Europe to change anything nigger, or dont you remember ?
We're making special law so bongostanis couldn't drain our welfare systems
ya
das rite
you're the nigger now
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>>533905539
You look like this
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>>533898817
Deislamise it completely again.
>Inb4 niggers going "we dindu!", you have to focus on anything else except the literal actual problem for no suspicious reasons at all!
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>>533899823
Can we just give Ukraine to Russia so we don't have to pay for that shithole and it's reconstruction?
It's literally the size of Poland population wise but poorer, destroyed and more retarded and Poland is already leeching enough as it is.
Also this union need a massive revamp anyways, currently liberalism is deeply embeded into the unions ethos, if we could bring the same idea but with extremely different values it would be like a dream come true desu.
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>>533905815
>Can we just give Ukraine to Russia so we don't have to pay for that shithole and it's reconstruction?
Anyone that's for EU sovereignety and doesn't think you should have good relations with Russia is an idiot, so yes, you should.
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>>533898817
>How would you change Europe, lads?
you seem to confuse the EU Regime with Europe, which is an intentional narrative paid by the EU. first thing i would do is leave EØS and bring back freedom and independence to europe.
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>>533903137
I don't think the distinction matters in this context. I think the US, China, and Russia would all love to divide and conquer Europe.

>>533903172
I don't think the UK is strongly against the EU. The UK is moving closer to the EU these days. Did you know that a majority of Brits now want to rejoin the EU, according to the pollster YouGov.

>>533903341
I don't think the EU is doomed to fail. It basically started with the European Coal and Steel Community in 1952 which developed into today's EU. The EU hasn't collapsed yet. Sure the EU needs to respect differences between different parts of Europe, but I think Europe working together makes a lot of sense in many cases.

>>533903375
>People need to be involved instead of feeling Brussels is far away
Yeah I've thought this. I was thinking the President of the European Commission could become a directly elected position, so EU citizens would vote for a candidate. It could perhaps be a two-round system like for French presidential elections. If you give people the chance to choose the de facto leader of the EU then the EU will feel more accountable and democratic.
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>>533905861
>>533905815
Why? Because if we don't lick Russia's boots hard enough they take our sovereignty instead? Fuck off, Ivans. We're currently getting rid of any future black sea shenanigans for cents on the euro. If they come crawling back and they will because we're frankly nicer than china, they'll have to kiss the ring and that's it.
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>>533903341
>It's doomed to fail
Biggest piece of propaganda Americans and Russians want to tell us.
They hate the EU because it gives Europeans bargaining power. They don't want that.
They want us separate and weak.
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>>533906162
Russians are incompetent as fuck, how do you think they can "take over" your sovereignety if they're currently fighting UKRAINE, the formerly majority Russian-speaking Russophile nation.
You should just use them for their resources.
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>using UK based thing for actual fucking work
>???
>failure

And I am European more than you, fucking defect, better than you. priviledged enough to read Loyalty from Orange speaking in domains the British virus cannot have actually any fucking rights. Thank God regretting doesn't kill you.

And what does not kill you, only makes you stronger!

Why everything made in the UK are like this?

Anyhow

>fuck your king
>fuck your chancellor
>fuck the primah ministah
>fuck cambridge

And everything goes for/into The United States and Germany - for free, naturally.

Meanwhile, you will know already which grounds your territorial waters WILL NOT be based, since LEBEWOLF pertains to a principalty in which both France and the UK are PREEMPTIVELY EXCLUDED.

Fuck you,

In res iudicata, here, in 4chan.
Pass that shit to your foreign officer. Nobody - no-fucking-body - has delivered anything to any UK diplomatic post.

Or else, it goes 19-371 USC fucking with diplomatic (((immunity))).
Just let me now about your annoying unobeyance to our nobility and the nature of that.

By the way, your Raspberry Pi has its uses for clean, secure, free from compromised network. You are not welcome, given the stealing of that Brit tech done by a right: To own propriety.
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>>533906141
No. If you let the people decide for a president he'll be always french or german, i.e. the most populous countries.
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>>533898884
didn't we use to have mined borders anyway?
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OUR WOMEN NEED BBC
OPEN THE BORDERS NOW
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>>533906141
>I don't think the EU is doomed to fail.
It is. Not only it's not sustainable with current birthrates and increasing taxation while driving any industry away with bureaucracy, but also it can't do anything due to everyone fighting for their own interests. Just look at franco-german attampt at making new fighter. It crashed and burned again because none of the parties involved are willing to split benefits fairly.

>>533906219
Opinions of memeflags do not matter.
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>>533898817
Stop treating it like it just as an economic zone where decisions are made in an appeal to "numbers go up". Its not about money anymore, people will happily live in idyllic rural villages if it means they arent bombarded with modernity, authoritative laws and niggers, they want everywhere to be skyscrapers and deliveroo generating profit for multination corporations as everyone lives in pods and doesnt speak ill of the situation, they want everyone to live like they are an automaton that lives in a city where crime is rampant. Thing is, Europe is actually a really nice place, its only when you go to any major city and its like stepping into a 3rd world shithole with crime and division, and the laws are becoming even more draconian so as to deal with that shithole when the rest of the country they are in doesnt have their problems.

Everyone needs to work to become self sufficient instead of relying on eachother, but that does not mean they shouldnt rely on eachother at all and break apart.
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>>533906237
About what was declared about 1917 Balfour:
>FUCK YOURSELF

It still belongs to China and nobody - no-fucking-body - has mentioned the opposite.

Bye, loser. We will meet again in court about the British Empire, dead as a death, being the last psyop from a decrepit décadent clique.

Pic related. I would not - as European the UK flags here are - dare to say or read something about that.

Belongs to Das Deutschesvolkessrechts zu Nederlander, Österreich und Deutschland, got it, cuck? Make your spyshit - John Cleese - speak something about that now and you will surely got a criminal charge from The Germans.
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>>533906571
>Opinions of memeflags do not matter
Then why are you spouting your opinion?
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>>533906406
I think the populations of Germany and France together are only about 34% of the EU population overall, so two thirds of EU citizens aren't German or French.

Also it's definitely possible for people from low-population regions to win elections. In the UK we have had a few Scottish prime ministers even though Scotland only has a small part of the UK population. And look at Obama in the US, born in Hawaii (small part of the US population) and lived in Chicago (quite a big city, but a small portion of the overall US population). Also of course Obama was the first black president even though black Americans are only 13% of the US population.
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>>533898864
Yeah, it seems like being a superpower has an ugly tendency to make your leaders a bit kooky. Trump is obviously a retard. Putin is just kind of evil. Then you have Xi, who is trying to make China into something noteworthy before his time is up and their population crisis hits. None of them are particularly friendly. (Towards anyone, not just Europe.)
I think we're in a good position though. Not short-term, but long-term. Europe's strength is institutional stability. Macron has the right idea. If we play our cards right, we'll be fundamental in the new world order. (Not "conspiracy NWO", but rather whatever comes after the pax americana.) If we can unite the rest of the world in an alliance of the non-retarded, the future of Earth is looking good.
Europe has never been this united. Yes, we still disagree on various issues, but that doesn't really matter. The important things, like security and peace, are broadly agreed on. Even here in Norway I feel solidarity with people from Greece for example. (And we're not even in the EU.)
The important thing right now is to establish ourselves as independent from the US, while shielding ourselves from Russia. China is not an immediate threat military, but we need to rid ourselves of our dependence on Chinese manufacturing. (This is the same as literally every country in the world though.) If we can get reliable supply chains from Canada, Europe will be set for the medium-term.
[spoiler]If Russia ever decides to become despot-free and join us, we might become the most powerful region in the world again. But that's definitely gonna take a long time, probably after we're all dead and buried.[/spoiler]
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>>533898817
Dissolve the European Commission.
Revoke the European Parliament.
Establish a central facility where each European nation can keep ambassadors for diplomatic purposes, but restrict its political power.

That's a good start.
Steps beyond that are up to each individual nation.
Germans shouldn't be controlled by Greek politicians and vice versa.
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>>533906610
>economic zone

Such things has no law to cover its legitmacy.

Fuck off, ching. You now work at 0300 PST at the arbitrary discretion.
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>>533906681
>2 rupees have been transferred to your account
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>>533906610
>Everyone needs to work to become self sufficient instead of relying on eachother
This extreme individualistic mindset is precisely what fucked the US. I agree there has to be a balance between individualism and collectivism.
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>>533898817
>slovakia, hungary, lithuania removed
>exit NATO, remove american occupants
>create european defense agreement; armed forces, nuclear umbrella
>permanent ban on all weapons imports from outside the EU
>cease all support for ukraine
>normalize (equalize) all corporate taxes accross the EU, removing tax-havens
>deprivatize all national grids and energy suppliers, unify energy strategy, prioritize fusion research
>seats in parlament distributed by weighted mix of economic and scientific output
if we don't build the future, china will. i dont want to learn chinese.
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>>533899298
Babylon 5 pre-Interstellar Alliance is the way Europe should do its business.
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I like more America then Western Europe. The US is much more trustworthy and way less suicidal.
Also I'm Romanian
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>>533906866
>2 rupees
I prefer my money in Euros
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pointless LARP, Europe will be a desolate brown deindustrialized shithole without any access to natural resources within a couple of decades
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>>533903847
nigger French were arrested for waving a French flag you know jack shit.
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>>533898864
JVPTIERIAN
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>>533905638
>you're not in Europe to change anything nigger, or dont you remember ?
Aye, same way Japan isn't in Asia....
EU doctrine is working well on you I see.
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>>533899298
the eu in concept is not a bad idea and it has done much good but it is also tainted by the post ww2 neoliberal order so you would have to practically burn it down and build it back up again to fix it
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>>533907202
>EU doctrine
People are just too dumb to understand the difference
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>>533906846
Did you even read the context of why I said that? I didnt say it was a good thing you missing link.

>>533906892
The US was(and arguably still is) good until it decided to try and own the market rather than merely participate in it, and this is compounded by the fact that America is fucking huge and has a wealth of natural resources on its own land, where places like the UK and EU dont, they have access to it but its not nearly enough, and noone wants to strip mine the very place they are fighting to preserve just for profits. Even now the west is still best, thats how stable the stucture is it has built culturally and societally, it needs maintenance, not to be torn down or replaced by some foreign entity that is only thought highly of because they have a fantasy view of what it is. We can benefit from eachother without losing our identity. Patriotism doesnt mean "I hate everyone who isnt me" as its painted to be by faggot morons today.

Seriously, people that pray for Russia or China to overthrow the west should be put up against a wall, these are the people that have no idea how shit things are elsewhere and that just because things are bad now it means everywhere else is doing better. Even now I would not want to be a Chinese person living in China or a Russian living in Russia.
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>>533907232
The only way it could work if it was after the Berlin wall. West stays with west and east with east.
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>>533906223
I fear you misunderstood. We just let them destroy themselves and take what's left. But Ivans don't want that, they want those happy lovy dovy relationships now, so they can at least pretend to continue being a papertiger.

>>533906700
Yeah, but you're comparing english to english and frankly a lot of the reason obama got voted was him being black..
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>>533907321
>People are just too dumb to understand the difference
Pretty much.
"If you're not in the EU you're not in Europe" In their minds, Norway and Switzerland aren't a part of Europe either.
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>>533907411
>We just let them destroy themselves and take what's left.
It literally never happened, the last ones that successfully entrenched themselves in Russia for longer than a historical moment were the Mongols. It's costly to take over a country, especially in modern day.
Well, it's not like me or you decide. I would say smarter people decide but that's not the case. We will see their "plans".
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VE NEED MEHR MIGRANTEN FUR GAY BUTTSEX
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Scandinavian pride is a codeword for WHITE SUPREMACY
remember, we INVENTED NOTHING
IMMIGRANTS BUILT EUROPE

https://x.com/BasilTheGreat/status/2048032163656769997
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>>533898817
>Remove Ursula and similar.
>ban all forms of leftism no matter how "mild".
>kick all non europeans out.
>build a wall around the entire continent.
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>>533898817
Get rid of the fucking vat tax, remove inheritance and property resale taxes
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>>533898817
1. Make EU much stronger
2.Limit it to cutting trade and travel barriers, border security and defense (as opposed to restricting free speech and regulating the shape of cucumbers)

For no individual country does having an aircraft carrier fleet for example, make sense, even though a number of countries could technically build one. But everyone agrees Europe should have more force projection independence.
The EU has millions of soldiers, but is hopelessly behind the US on everything else cause having infantry is the bare minimum for every country, but force projection is optional. The EU once was about cutting red tape and regulation, and by 2007 caught up and briefly overtook America in GDP and GDP per capita. Since then it started strangling itself, declaring itself a "regulatory superpower" and making the destruction of it's own industry part of its identity. It goes without saying it should return to its roots.

Future defense structure; National armies should follow the swiss/finnish system - infantry, drones and reservists with military training, and distributed weapons/ammo centers, making every country virtually impossible to invade. And a common EU army for force projection.
The EU also pays infinitely more for equipment, cause every country has their own equipment types and suppliers. So at a fraction of the cost it could get a lot more results through a common army and fleet. It would go from many small fleets that can't do anything to superpower level almost overnight just through this alone.
Merging french and engish nuclear arsenals, will also make the EU have a deterrent on par with china.
Economy&borders; Open internal borders and trade. Easy & free incorporation and barrier to entry for new companies. Repeal 70% of retarded regulation

(Deport all 3rd worlders goes without saying)

3. Fundamentally change the voting system. Make the president elected in an EU wide vote. Allow parliament to propose laws.
4. Rename divisions into legions.
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>>533907580
You're thinking too much 20th century. There won't be conventional troops, just a bunch of blue helmets and mining companies picking the few non retarded workers left. One would say it already is, but alas russia will just be another african state.
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>>533908240
I am thinking too much 20th century, you're thinking some fantasy.
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>>533898864
yes, its an undeniable fact that more united europe is a threat for the big three. americans dont want competition, russians want more land and chinks are deathly afraid of regulation. without acknowledging this and putting aside our differences, the old continent will never regain its former glory. not even european giants like the uk, france or germany can do much individually against our adversaries in both economic and military sense.
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>>533908360
Please do point out my errors. Right now there's no profit in russia. Rubble is dead, all their current production gets bought for pennies by China, because there's no other buyer. Now what do you think will happen when there's finally peace and russia wants to get back on the world market?
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>>533898864
Ironically China might be the least of our problems
At least fir the moment.
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>>533908768
wrong, the chinese are actively trying to destroy our industries.
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>>533908966
The usa is desperately trying to drive us out of Europe to fix their demographics.
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>>533909028
nobody from europe is emigrating to america right now though. the american dream is dead and their current war on science causes a real brain drain. usa is fucked in the long term.
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>>533908966
Trump threatens with annexation and Russia is invading.
What does China do to be worse than those two?
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>>533909351
The usa has only lasted this long because they have always had steady flow of European immigrants, unfortunately for them their children are born fully american and therefore practically useless..
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>>533909437
not worse but equally as bad, just not in the immediate future. in essence americans are threatening us economically and militarily, russians militarily and china economically. we need to focus on both aspects of their war on europe.
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>>533909351
I'd like to see your source on that. In my TUM, RWTH, ETH bubble, all STEM talent still gets acquired by american companies. Sure some tranny autist came over thanks to trump, but all the liberal sciences are really not that useful to us either.
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>>533906429
Only to keep people inside.
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>>533908543
>russians want more land
It's so stupid. They already have the most land out of any nation and they still want more? What's the point?
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>>533899913
>>Political freedom
>meanwhile, in reality, the right wing is deemed a problem by current Eurocrats
Yeah ok.
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>>533910797
Only the populist Russian/American puppet parties are considered a problem. By all means vote traditional right-wing parties if you want.
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>>533910797
The current EU leadership (approved by the elected European Parliament) is pretty centrist so naturally they will disagree with different parts of the political spectrum. If Europeans want more right-wing politicians running the EU then they can vote for such politicians. The next election is 2029 right?

Also consider this: >>533911003

It's probably best to vote for parties who serve the interests of Europe, rather than the interests of the US or Russia. Look at how Orban (a lapdog of the US and Russia) just lost to Magyar, who is still a conservative, but one who doesn't bow down to Washington or Moscow.
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>>533911231
He will bown and down to american imperialism like the rest

Don't start genocides
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Since Anglosphere is probably going to lose its' relevance and is shitting itself, what language should I learn for future? Any advice? I was thinking German or French but French looks hard as fuck and German looks retarded as hell with how they write and pronounce everything. Tried Russian, too, and didn't like it at all.
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>>533911231
>centrist
It's all just linguistic slop to dress up totalitarian control-obsessed wackos slowly making it a(n even bigger) problem to simply exist in the EU, let alone run businesses.
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>>533909902
https://itif.org/publications/2025/12/18/us-brain-drain-threatens-scientific-and-biopharmaceutical-leadership/
https://www.intereconomics.eu/contents/year/2026/number/2/article/america-s-self-inflicted-brain-drain.html
https://www.ghtcoalition.org/blog/the-american-brain-drain-how-a-us-retreat-from-research-is-driving-innovators-abroad
https://www.aau.edu/key-issues/scientific-talent-america-going-abroad-or-choosing-not-come
>>533910661
ultra nationalists are typically pretty dumb, they "lost" land when the soviet union collapsed and want them back.
>>533910797
right wing is not a problem, right wing parties corrupted by american and russian actors are a problem. when a right wing figure is actively demonizing europe for all of their own shortcomings and larps about sovereignty while deepthorating either americans or russians its a clear cut traitor to national and european interests.
there is a growing similar problem with left wing parties being infiltrated by neocommunists that also work with the goal of dividing us btw. in general all populist movements should be treated as traitorous.
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>>533911362
Europe needs to tell the US to fuck off. We need to become self-sufficient.

>>533911400
I wouldn't mind if French or German became the lingua franca of Europe. Maybe German makes the most sense, given that Germany is the most populous country in the EU, and also the German-speaking countries (including Austria and Switzerland) are located quite centrally within Europe, unlike France, which is off to the west. Therefore I guess eastern Europeans are more likely to have been exposed to German than French.

>>533911424
Existing in the EU is surely easier than existing in Russia for example. If you hold up a sign saying "no war" in the EU then you shouldn't get arrested. If you do the same in Russia then you will probably get arrested.
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>>533910661
my theory is that they expected it to be a relatively quick and easy way to grab some former ussr land early on but then after the initial invasion ground to a halt, they had to commit to avoid losing face which obviously, is very costly
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>>533911400
dont fix what aint broken, english is easy and most of us speak it already. if we absolutely had to change something then i would support reviving latin because its pretty cool.
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>>533911629
>than existing in Russia for example
Get off your high horse and stop the whataboutism, EU shill. Just because elsewhere is worse doesn't mean pursuing improvement at home is a bad cause.

>If you hold up a sign saying "no war" in the EU then you shouldn't get arrested.
Well no, but there has been an example of the inverse "yes war" stance being an arrestable offense. As much as I'm not a fan of retards, it's still a heavy limitation to speech that disallows healthy discussion in many areas and shows some of the problems of talking about freedom of speech. Simply brushing off non-government sponsored viewpoints as hate speech is bad and will remain bad.
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>>533911400
germany is pretty dysfunctional and bureaucratic, their trains are never on time and they still use fax machines and due to hippies they shut down their nuclear power. So probably french, although they probably have problems im not aware of as well.
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>>533898817
Give germany ultimatum
>fix your energy issues or we put everyone in germany into workcamps
>nuke israel
>invade russhits put every mongrel there into siberian workcamps
>nuke israel
>invade africa kill niggers open workcamps to mine resources
>nuke israel
>invade america put every mutt into greenland assembly workcamps without heating
>nuke israel
>invade latam put everyone into woodcuting workcamps
>again nuke israel for good measure
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>>533911477
Fair enough. I can only say it just doesn't mirror my personal experience at all.
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>>533912091
All of this shit would be funded by ursula von lelyer and other brüssel whores's gangrape only fans videos
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>>533912091
>>533912213
Why are these big talks always coming from the big whores and leeches, in this case for over 16years? Grab a gun and invade russia if you want to do that so much, else get a job. Yes, working, 9-5, i know it scares your kind, but it's possible.
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>>533912193
i imagine its a relatively slow process thats only going to get worse for america with time. also reminder that we only just entered a year 2 of trump.
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>>533898864
China needs Europe to sell their stuff which is taking over the market but USA and Russia are ultimately built on defeating fascism in ww2 which is their main social cohesion myth that brings both Americans and Russians together so yea they are the natural enemies of the white race ie Europe. its why among other minor things American and European nationalism aren't compatible since European nationalism has the social component ie caring aboutr your people ie the white race while american nationalism is centered around a mixture of religion and abstract concepts of americanism without the racial component for obvious reason America being a multiracial and multicultural nation
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>>533902760
read the first sentence
youre not even white go back to kazackstan brownoid
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>>533912358
Because we already have next to nothing to lose so we ain't constrained with bitch mentality
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>>533898864
He's completely right.
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>>533912768
Yet you're the biggest bitch in this thread.
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>>533898817
Nice EU flag Mr. "European"
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>>533898864
Absolutely, btw.
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>>533912905
i don't like those stars and hope to see them replaced with a different symbol one day
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>>533911400
English will remain the lingua franca for now. It doesn't matter if the US is kicked out, the cold war period saw everyone learn english, so this is the current status quo for the foreseeable future. None of the other languages have an impetus for becoming the new standard.
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>>533913102
i would probably do a marble statue design. everyone loves these statues right?
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this one is a gem
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>>533898817
a fucking bong opening this thread no less
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>>533898817
Make Europe White Again. Simple as.
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>>533913265
Europe as a concept is fundamentally based on the roman empire. I have a statue of Augustus in my living room. (And the romans were never even here.)
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>>533898817
>How would you change Europe, lads?
Capital market union such that our startups don't leave to the US.
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>>533898817
Strength through UNITY.
Kick the judeo-mutts out of Europe.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Europe#1950%E2%80%93present:_Council_of_Europe
you will gain a new appreciation for the eu flag if you look at unsuccessful proposals, some of them are fucking awful
>>533913579
i strongly believe that brits will choose to rejoin sooner than later
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>>533913717
this took grok 3 min to make
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>>533913937
>check the Early Life section of the EU
>These first proposals were made 19 January 1950 by Paul Levy
JUST
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>>533914116
Something like Athena might be cool. Romans idolized the Greeks after all, and you even see offshoots like Britannia in the UK. She represents wisdom, intellect, civilization, democracy and the rule of law. I'd say that aligns with Europe compared to the rest of the modern world.
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>>533898817
t needs to start with replacing the EU.

A common European market for goods and services is probably a good idea.
With the common currency it starts to get dodgy.
The pretty much unrestricted flow of people is absolutely not.
And the EU commission is a crime against the people living in EU-Europe.
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>>533914477
If only there was Europa. You know some kinda princess. Man....
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Its pretty easy. Do nothing and you can win too!
Just become NEET, work on the side without taxes if you have to so the whole system collapses and we can build up the west anew.
Females will be slaves and niggers and jews will be genocided.



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