Marx predicted that capitalism would tend towards concentration, with fewer capitalists controlling larger amounts of capital, and that "dead labor" (machinery/technology) would increasingly replace "living labor". The dominance of "Big Tech" and the rush to invest in AI infrastructure, often celebrated as a path to efficiency, echoes Marx’s description of capital chasing cost savings through automation. Critics argue that capitalism has proven more adaptable than Marx assumed, turning technological revolutions into new profit opportunities rather than collapsing under its own weight.Marx believed that automation under capitalism would inevitably create a "reserve army of labor"—a segment of the population that is unemployed or underemployed. AI is currently displacing or threatening white-collar and knowledge-based work, rather than just manufacturing roles. This aligns with the idea of machines (or algorithms) replacing "living labor" and treating workers as a variable cost to be reduced, rather than resources to be developed. Historically, automation has destroyed jobs but eventually created new ones. The debate now is whether AI works faster than the job-creation process can keep up.Marx termed the lowest layers of society, who are cast out of the workforce, the lumpenproletariat. There is a fear that AI will create a "permanent underclass" (or an "I-shaped" society) of individuals whose labor is deemed irrelevant by capital, trapped in low-wage gig work or chronic unemployment.While many, including those in Silicon Valley, use Marxist-like terminology to describe the fear of being left behind by AI, the outcome—revolutionary collapse vs. managed societal change—is still debated.
>>533920339>Was Karl Marx right all along?always was
It doesn't matter whether or not the theories square, the world needs to have a living breathing alternative to global Capital regardless; the USSR was the last great alternative to capitalism, for all its follies. We must try something else. Try.
>>533920339> Leftist> Wall of Text spamEven if you're correct you need to learn to dumb down, or rather, distill your shitposts. I agree with you and can't bring myself to read through that
>>533920693i'm not a leftist, just noticing patterns
>>533920339No, production is more decetralized than ever, what you psoted is what happens when communists create a central bank to print themselves money
>>533920339yes. offtopic how the hell is serbin skara just ao good, man? is it the spices or what? whats is the damn secret? (im bulgarian)
>>533920339yes. amerimutts are delusional lumpens who think they're future billionaires though>>533920902why not post under your own flag instead of the globohomo eurotroon one
>>533920997the eu is the most civilized place on this planet
>>533920902we have a good meat and we don't salt it with anything other than crushed paprika and basic salt. i notice bulgarian bbq taste bad because you put some weird dry sauces or something
>>533920339Adolf Hitler was right all along.
>>533920339I don't care for capitalism, but we don't even have that right now. Having actual capitalism would be a step up over what we currently have.
>>533922030how it is not a late-stage capitalism?
>>533920339Yes but butthurt /pol/trannies will never ever admit this truth.
>>533921917he was a socialist btw
There's no evidence so far that AI can fully replace humans' jobs. Only that AI-assisted jobs might benefit a bit in speeding up some work. It's like a super-duper search engine, except that instead of returning links, it returns a whole textual context.But then, the cost of this will be that inevitably those workers lose skills. There's evidence that AI doing medical scans makes doctors worse at reading and finding the right patterns in the scans. If you don't use it, you lose it...And people who relied on Googlemaps have become worse at space orientation. In general, reliance on AI has been proven to worsen cognitive performance.And AI doesn't come up with anything new, it's a pattern finder/context simulator. So, it can be useful in some tasks but if you replace humans with it, there are some risks down the road. Both for the company when it fails badly but also for the workforce in general because it can become dumber in time. So gain some, lose some.
>>533922673No bro, it's over. It's over. There aren't mass layoffs due to obvious fears of unrest and revolts. But AI can do everything non-physical
>>533922673>There's no evidence so far that AI can fully replace humans' jobs.that's already happening thoughand there are always pros and cons which some new technology brings, always were
>>533920339if only you idiots had voted for this, instead of the tech elite putting you in an AI prison
>>533920339No, but Ted Kaczynski was
>>533922920while was on point, he missed the bigger picture though. there's no going back like he advocated for
>>533920339He was right about the diagnosis, wrong about the cure>Yeah it's cancer, drink this lead and it will clear up by morning
>>533922147The current world operates under financialism (Judaism). In financialim the main economic activity is money and the financial instruments rather than anything actually real. Everything centers around fictional numbers in computers.
>>533920390>>533920339Good goy. Shill for communism harder. Antifaschistische Aktion!
>>533923191jewsih economic are just the consequence of capitalism, not cause. it would have happened with or without them
>>533920802>i'm not a leftist, just noticing patternsNo you're not, you're a glowie and a leftist. Carl Marx was a fucking Kike, and you would notice this pattern if you had any brain matter left
>>533923247>>533923373you will deal with UBI style economy in due time. just look at china, that's the future which awaits us for
>>533922030Wiktionary:Capitalism: A socio-economic system based on private ownership of resources, and capital and their exploitation for profitEncyclopedia BrittanicaCapitalism: economic system, dominant in the Western world since the breakup of feudalism, in which most means of production are privately owned and production is guided and income distributed largely through the operation of marketsWe don't have those? Or you mean some very specific definition for capitalism only you and your pub buddies use?
>>533923340Yes, correct. Communism was not created by jews. Antifa was not founded by jews. Don't look into it. History is antisemitic.>>533923454>UBIWhat makes you think mommy government would deem you deserving of UBI gibs? You will get nothing, and your UBI fund will get pocketed by fat pigs wearing suits.
>>533920339Isn't it more that imperialism is only justifiable if it's economically beneficial so this manifests as some psychotic anti human adherence to profit to people being colonized?
>>533923528i'm not claiming UBI is good though, it's just a post-capitalism state with some sprinkle of communism on top of it, which is actually the worst possible combination. we see this happening in china and soon we'll experience it on our skins
I take more of a Malthusian approach: if there were less people life would be better.>we could live in symbiosis without extincting species>driving would be better with less people on the streets>there would be more homes available to live in>more jobs available>labor would be worth more>pollution would decrease and there'd be less trash everywhereOverall, competition would be way down so nobody has to suck jew cock in order to get ahead. I believe we're currently living in hell and heaven will be a place with way less people such that everyone has an abundance of resources and free time.
>>533923672that's what capitalists think though, e.g. what bill gates is doing. but only to their own benefit and with a goal to enslave 95% of remaining population
>>533923898capitalists want more people to consume their product, that's why they import consumers and give them our hard-earned money
>>533923454>UBIYou wish, the elites have no reason to feed anyone, and as soon as they install a communist government, there will be no opposition.
>>533924038>communist governmentNot that I think this will happen, we are walking towards a technocracy.
>>533923982their goal is to accomodate us enough to consumerism to be totally dependent on it, and then introduce UBI mandated scoring system based on good goy points
>>533924127>implying we're not already dependent on consumerismthey already have good-goy points it's called a background check
>>533923662I don't look forward to it, not one bit. I feel bad for this new generation. So bad...
>>533920339https://web.cs.ucdavis.edu/~rogaway/classes/188/materials/Industrial%20Society%20and%20Its%20Future.pdf
>>533924208not all people are experiencing that, we still have 2nd and 3rd world countries like mine where such things are not yet fully enforced, but i expect that soon to happen as time goes and we import more cultural stuff from the west, which is getting worse by day
>>533920339Yes Marx was right about capitalism eating itself as a logical conclusion, but the jews wanted to keep the grift going as long as possible.But>the lumpenproletariat. There is a fear that AI will create a "permanent underclass" (or an "I-shaped" society) of individuals whose labor is deemed irrelevant by capital, trapped in low-wage gig work or chronic unemployment.They made it obviously that the plan is just straight up kill these people, not keeping them around
>>533923662We've been living in post capitalism with communism sprinkled in it for 200 years. Capitalism never existed. The only people free trade in the US were southerners because of tariffs and smugglers.
>>533923340The debt based currencies we are forced to use came from Judaism.
>>533920802 >>533920339 You just used ChatGPT to compile a text, you probably didn't read a single book written by Marx.
Yes, because he was involved in the planning of this jewish conspiracy, with communist Jews and capitalist Jews each pla.ing their own partrin tht game to destroy our economy and class cohesion with this dirty game. Just look at communist finances from WWI to today and it is obvious.
>>533924387All I'm saying is if there were less people we could actually bring back things like social ostracization and punish people who lie or cheat. Right now we can't even punish people who cheat in elections. I'm imagining a world where you can trade a car with someone and not fear that it's been in multiple crashes or about to break down.A high-trust society relies on good-goy points but not enforced by AI or the jews - but white citizens who want to make a better world.
>>533924403They want to kill the majority of people on earth. Whenever they open their mouth and blab about it, numbers are in the ballbark of 5 to 7 billion.
>>533924618>They want to kill the majority of people on earthI wish lol the elite want more people = more slaves
If you can get the same amout of eggs from fewer chickens, obviously you just get rid of the extra chickens.If someone files a w2 with the irs on your behalf, you are a chicken and it is not up to you if you are needed or not.
Just break into the data centers that aren't well guarded and are full of precious metals.
>>533923528What, Marx was consulting his town's rabby so that he could write communist manifesto in such a way to incur most damage to white race? What about Rosa Luxemburg? She found out these plans from Marx's rabby or did Marx's rabby contact polish rabbinical concil so they knew that communism is about destroying white race and not elevation of working class?Or did Marx hid some messages only jews through secret jewish techniques shared through generations can pick up?
>>533924455debt based currency is again a inevitable product of capitalism. jews just have speeded it up exponentially with their schemes and made it a lot worse with everything else they did culturally to us like >>533924595 said>>533924511we need to bring back raiffeisen credit unions though
I just want to tend to my turnips in peace. Why do jews hate me?
>>533920339The powers that be have a new system that has been in the development for decades now, ready to be rolled out in the coming years. It will operate in parallel starting sometime this year and by the next decade it will be fully operational as the Agenda 2030 goals are slowly being implemented.There will be no collapse, no violence, no uprising, no world war, no draft, no revolution, no killing of jews or politicians or other such fantasies. Instead there will be law & order, compliance and total surveillance until the very end. AI will be at the center of it all. The Great Reset is inevitable.
>>533924511Poor, misguided white rich. If only they knew they are misguided by evil jews, they would see, and miraculously stop exploiting poorer classes for their own gain. They would immediedly start paying fair wages and lobby for fairer labor laws
>>533924684More slaves = more logistics = more costlyAt some point it isn't worthy more purely by mathematical limit
>>533920339I believe Marx was right on a lot of things. But I'm not a gommy
