Red or blue?
>>533927933Post the real poll with 100k votes and 60% blue
How much do you get paid per (you) or post in this thread?
>>533927933has about as much influence on policy as real democracy
Only digits in this philosophical thread.
A teacher in a classroom hands out a test. There is only one question.Choose option A to receive a 100% score.Choose option B to receive a 0% score.However, if 51% of students choose option B, everyone gets a 100% score.Which do you choose?A)B)
>>533927999>WastedReal poll? Did you get lost or something, faggot?
Elgin thread priming for anons to choose being slaves for the fake alien invasion
>>533927999>twatter is realwew
>>533928098I write C) the pill that makes the holocaust happen but for real this time. Then I white Niggerton McNigger in the name blank because I'm not actually in the class.
Why would anyone press blue?If everyone presses red nobody dies.
>>533928073Reframing it this way I'd take the red pill. But the way it's presented in the button way makes me doubt how everyone else would interpret it so I would hit the blue button.
>>533927999This poll proved that a majority of people couldn't be trusted to make the logical and rational choice even if their very own lives were explicitly at stake. I think this says a lot about democracy as a political system
>>533928098B, because it ensures everyone gets 100%. A only ensures that only the people who chose A get 100%. What if someone is dyslexic, blind, retarded etc?
>>533928397Well, it proves what they'd virtue signal on twatter at least. In real life most of them would press the red button of course.
>>533928475
>>533928397The red vs blue button debate is just COVID jabs part 2. The blue pressers are all jannies, ie willing to take personal risk in order to pretend to benefit others while not actually doing so.
>>533928453Yes, but in real life political decisions aren't immediately life threatening, even if they may have devastating long term effects
>>533928405>What if someone is dyslexic, blind, retarded etc?Natural selection
>>533928532Don't worry, whenever people voot wrong the people who count the voots just correct the outcome.
>>533928507>spamming twatter psyops is funagain just kys
>>533928475thisI have no idea what this stupid button question is about but it has appeared in the last day and is obviously reddit tier off topic spam.>>533928507>le funNarwhal bacon amirite
bluetards don't understand basic game theory
>>533928073bluefags have no refutation to this other than saying "its different because it just is okay??!!"
>>533928405How to you say you are retarded in Mexican?
>>533928605>i look at the catalog>10 threads about trannies>50 migger threads>30 threads about zognalds ballroom>14 I hate womens threads
>>533928405The assumption is that everyone has the physical and mental capacity to take the test. B doesn't ensure anything, it's an unknown risk to anyone who chooses it. Very few would choose it.
>>533928538>kills his colorblind child>natural selectionBrazil, everyone.
This experiment proved how evil and stupid modern "morality " is : we got a lot of people committing a suicidal act and wanting other people to risk their life on the assumption that everyone has the same "morality" as them so they pretend to have taken the "correct" choice . The fact that a lot of people think like this is so blackpilling
>>533928706Eres subnormal.
>>533928850*Can pretend
>>533928718>There's lots of other shit threads so I should make it worsered = like le redpill xd based n redpilledblue = like le bluepill xd cringe n bluepilledI've not even read what the question actually is but it's obvious this is what it's about and these are just circlejerk spam threads.
What button makes vending machine waifus real?
>>533928850>risk their lifeDon't worry we will be risking yours too when the red purge begins.
>>533928949>implying /pol/ can get worse
YOU HAVE TO JOIN MY SUICIDE PACT TO SAVE ME FROM THE SUICIDE PACT I MADE OR ELSE YOURE A MURDERER
>>533928982You wont do shit
>>533928073Exactly.
>>533929037The downside of red is being forced to live in a world filled with evil at the direct expense of good. That is a catastrophic downside, literally being put into eternal prison as you wont have death to save you.
>>533927933Blue pushers would vote in favor of executing anyone who pushed red if they had the power
>>533929147But pressing the red button doesn't make you evil, and pressing the blue button doesn't make you good.
>>533929147Counter point: red is the good choice, blue is the evil choice
>>533929147>The downside of red is being forced to live in a world filled with evil at the direct expense of goodExcept it's not, you're just a retard.
>>533927933Red pushers are of the cult of Saturn and the black cube.
>>533928847>>kills his colorblind child>>natural selection>Brazil, everyone.I have no colorblind child, and in nature, colorblindness would be fatal
>>533929269>Commits suicide>"You're a cultist!"
>>533929147bluefags have to assume everyone who presses red is an evil subhuman because there is no logical reason to not press red otherwise. in reality redworld would be a high iq utopia filled with honest rational actors, and without the suicidal empathy that kills white nations.
>>533928350then you deserve to die with the rest of them
>>533927933>negro swans are flying over my house
>>533928256well to be fair, the red button chud is going to let the blue people die, like the NPC, and just because most of the intelligent people would choose Red, doesn't mean that Good people won't choose Blue.
bluefags are actual communists who think that rational self interest is immoral
>>533929506>>533929187see>>533928982bluefags pretend to have good morals but are bloothirsty commies obsessed with controlling and killing themselves and others
>>533929575>Good people will choose blue since it's what God wants them to do.Blue is a death cult
>>533929575Pretty sure God wants you to live, not to die over nothing.
>>533928982>Don't worry we will be risking yours too when the red purge begins.Damn, blues are really satanic
>>533929575>just risk your life ,goyim I can see your nose from here schlomo
>>533929477>Let blue people dieNo, he isn't. They're jumping off a bridge and he's choosing to stay where he is.
>>533927933>kikes spamming their own fake polls now
>>533928847>>533929566
>>533929187Yes. Stalin did nothing wrong.
>>533927933>Only whites press blue>red is low IQ niggers, and psychopaths.
>>533929800>Yes. Stalin did nothing wrong.So he never did anything wrong? Blue is really a satanic pedo death cult run by kikes, lol
>>533929844Whites are like 5% of the planet's population, David.
The convincing argument for pressing blue is that small children pressing the blue button after hearing "everyone survives" would be saved from their own stupidity, potentially
>>533929844>Only whites press blue>red is low IQ niggers, and psychopaths.Considering that whites are only 5% of the population, only retarded white trash would press it then.
>>533929713It's not a great analogy. It's more like a Eugencist's dillemma, really. Because the people that choose blue are just stupid, but the people who choose red, many of them, implicitly do not care, or just want, the stupider people to die.
>>533929934>Parents didn't tell them to press redImagine hating your child so much you'd let them press blue
>>533929889I think you just rephrased what I said.
>>533929934Why don't you just tell your kid to press red ?
The blue vs red button is very simple. Kikes think collectively, so they would press blue, but since they're such a small percentage of the population, they would try to convince everyone to press blue. I guess this is the ultimate slave test. Only goyim press blue.
>>533930006That sounds like my analogy works out pretty well. You'd have to be stupid to jump, but there would be a variety of motivations for not jumping. Sure, some of the reds would be malicious, but not nearly all of them.
>>533930006The choice is between being naive and being evil. Red fags don't want to admit to being evil, so they cope endlessly.
>>533927933Red.Some people will apparently jump in front of a train because it MIGHT save other people who are dumb enough to do so.If we knew the choice were coming and wanted to protect society, we would encourage people (especially the most valuable people) to press RED, not BLUE, because choosing blue puts a large segment of the population at risk, while those people can be certain to continue contributing to society if they press red.Fundamentally, though, it comes down to PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY (RED) vs OVERSOCIALIZATION (BLUE). We can only function as a society if we take personal responsibility.
>>533930137kikes press red knowing that kikes would keep themselves alive first and foremost (any jew that mistakenly picks blue can be replaced )jews try to convince everyone to pick blue knowing that red will win, to cleanse the earth goyim so they can enslave what few gentiles remain that picked red.
>>533930137Committed Jews would press red then tell everyone they pressed blue. Would feel no remorse or guilt also.
>>533930175>The choice is between being naive and being evil. Red fags don't want to admit to being evil, so they cope endlessly.Nah, redfags know that both those that press blue and those that press red are evil, the difference is, those that press blue are virtue signaling and want you dead.
>Press the blue button go- i mean guy!>Don't you want to save everyone>Results come out>15% of people pressed blue>All of them white>*hand rubbing intensifies*
>>533930030What if they have to vote while they're at school? Their liberal teacher would force them to vote blue.
>>533930235this exactly kekjews are in this very thread telling you its evil to not kill yourself, meanwhile theyre presing red and laughing at you
>>533930178>woman and child fall in front of a train>the only way to stop the train is if half of the people in the station jump with her
>>533930030>>533930120Because the kid is 1 year old and doesn't understand anything. It will just pick something at random, privately, without me being able to interfere.
>>533930239>>533930235True, you guys are right
>>533930137The jews would choose red since it garantees their survival and would give them the possibility to kill some goyim
>>533930276Good argument against public schooling I guess
>>533930235>any jew that mistakenly picks blue can be replacedThis is how Zionist and American Jews saw Holocaust victims also. They blamed them for getting Holocausted.
>>533930276then that teacher should be charged with murder and promptly executed
>>533930178Don't worry, in real life almost everyone would press the red button, even virtue signalling pledditors.Imagine if you could press a red button and then you don't have to pay any taxes. Or you can press a blue button and then you have to pay your taxes... unless more than half of people press the blue button.You'd get endless pledditors and women saying they'd press the blue button in solidarity with retarded people who for some incomprehensible reason chose the blue button. But in reality they'd all press the red button.
>red -> life, simple as>blue -> bring death into equation -> wailing and the gnashing of teeth follows
>>533930330>The jews would choose redSo you are siding with jews?
>>533927933operation blue the jew
>>533929844>Fellow white people, we should all press blue for the sake of humanity
>>533930477jews also breathe air and have children. should white people quit doing that so that we arent like kikes?
>>533929349So you agree with me, people who push red are selfish and look for themselves only and are evil. They value (((iq))) and have no ability to love other people at their own direct expense.
>>533929477>Intelligent people>Good peopleAnon, if you are good and smart, you will make the smart decision. If you are a retarded conformist, you will make the virtue signaling choice. And if you are a "good" person who makes retarded decisions out of emotions, perhaps you aren't "good" for society. The road to Hell is paved with good intentions. Those "good" blue button pushers will be blessed in Heaven. I thank them for their sacrifice and I don't exactlywant them to die, but I am also happy not to have to deal with their retarded decisions causing misery.
>>533930447That's gaslighting. Death is baked into the equation by the entity that imposes the game on people. Red pushers look for themselves first, Blue pushers care about others, including friends and family.
>>533930477>>533930291
>>533930497it's funny seeing idiots post the originals of your image as if it doesn't directly undermine whatever position they are trying to support.If majority of midwits are red -> blues dieIf majority of midwits are blue -> no one diesOf course that doesn't account for if the bell curve represents white westerners or the entire worlds population.
>>533930542How do red button pressers justify child sacrifice?>>533930297
>>533929844the people who press blue are also the ones who support immigration and free niggers on the streets because they think they can be rehabilitated
>>533930497Kek but are the wojacks on top supposed to be ascended or mediocre?
>>533930623I'm not killing anyone, some malicious entity is responsible for all this shit by forcing people to push kill buttons.
>>533930295In this scenario, they cannot have fallen or been pushed. They chose to push the button. The only people we would be "saving" are those who chose their own fate.
>>533930594>Blue pushers care about others, including friends and familyIf you cared for your friends and family you'd encourage them to press red
>>533930667Moral philosophers are the true evil in this world.
>>533927999That is the /pol/ poll and it proved that /pol/ should be in charge of the planet
>>533927933Is anyone really surpised /pol/ chose red? This board is full of insane social rejects, unironic dalit-tier low-trust subhumans. Actual high-trust humans chose blue.
>>533930667And you have the chance to defeat it by valiantly pressing blue, or to give it its child sacrifice by cowardly pressing red
>>533930581bluefags cant read. people who press red are rational, not evil. bluefags are the ones putting others in danger by entering into a suicide pact. also lol at (((iq))) yeah bluefags cant even pretend to be intelligent
>>533930708>encourage family to vote red >some die anyway >convince most to vote blue>no one dies
>>533930730>>533930736These polls are super easy to manipulate lmao.
>>53393073690% of humans on this planet is unironic dalit-tier low-trust subhumans, so you pressing blue is just you pressing a suicide button.
>>533930736>dalitsaar press pantone button saar
>>533930708>If you cared for your friends and family you'd encourage them to press redCan't convince 0-2 year olds to press red. You're letting 50% of them die without thinking twice?
>>533930750No, because pressing the blue button is just a suicide, since most people would press red if the stakes were real.
>>533930736How naive you are to think most of the world is high trust.
>>533927933neither
>>533927933blue-button-pushers>"Let's work together">Establishes partnerships to achieve more than he could alone >Emotional core: Hope>Tolerates risk when there is benefit to himself or others>"I don't want them to suffer like I did.">Is defeated when deceived into trusting a Red and inevitably betrayed >Responds poorly to coercion, uses trust and cooperation to overthrow slavers>Tries to cultivate fellow Blues to create a community>Willing to risk his own life for the right causered-button-pushers:>"Fuck you, I got mine">Pretends to be a Blue while not actually contributing anything>Emotional core: Contempt>Pathologically risk-averse>"I suffered so why shouldn't they?">Is defeated when Blues identify him and exclude him from the fruits of their labors>Can be coerced to contribute - an ideal slave because his paranoia and selfishness prevent him from organizing a rebellion>Tries to poison others into becoming Reds purely out of spite; knows this will eradicate the structures he depends on to survive; can't help himself >Thinks anything with a non-zero chance of death is a "suicide cult"
>>533930810holy COPE
>>533930859>since most people would press red if the stakes were real.What about 0-2 yo kids pressing the blue button randomly?
>>533930891>>Is defeated when Blues identify him and exclude him from the fruits of their laborsNotice how this is a recurring fantasy with oversocialized bluepushers.
>>533930937I can't do anything about that.
>>533929889Stalin hated Jews lmao
>>533927933100% of people need to pick Red in order for no one to die. This is impossible. Some people will not logically work through the question and pick what sounds better, don't understand game theory, are children/babies and literally just picking their favorite color, are protecting any of the above, etc. If Red wins, a significant portion of the population will die, including children and and the most empathetic. This cascades into suicides from people that lost family and friends, loss of productivity and economic failure, and potentially societal collapse. Only 50% of people need to pick blue for everyone to survive.Blue is the better choice.
>>533928251the leftist mind, just like the female mind, is inscrutablebut since they got to this level of "left can't meme" mental acrobatics, they must be in a pretty serious pickle
>>533931030You could vote blue. Then it doesn't matter what the kids do.
>>533931030Yes, you can. Press blue to potentially save them.
>>533927933red pushers world is the jewish world. I wouldn't want to live there.
>>533927933>Blue: chance of status quo or you disappear>Red: you live in Mad Max worldIf red wins most /pol/ anons would be preyed upon lol. Just imagine the usual hot pockets basement chud going against actual trained killers and wealthy warlords.
>>533931094>>533931118No, because if the scenario was actually real, then most people on this planet would push the red button. That's not even debatable.So pushing the blue button isn't a "chance to save the bluetards," it's simply a suicide.
>>533930891loling @ this subjective emotional drivel being posted again
>>533930937that's akin to some bird flying in an accidentially hitting a button. This is about conscious decisions not accidents. That's a complete nonsensical crutch because you know your choice is logically indefensible.
>>533928850we can only hope that they hit the "sweet spot" of 49.94%
y'all sound like a bunch of schizos arguing over fucking buttonssomeone post the actual questionalso I press both buttons at the same time, fyn
>>533931213you get to live in world of red pushers - good for you, you deserve each other.
>>533931171I don't feel shame when I drink water just because I know somewhere out there a jew is doing the same.
>>533931192What if the death involved you being tortured for days by some cartel spics? Would you still press the blue button?
>>533931267here you go, anon
>>533930752By pressing blue you don't "endanger" anyone but yourself though. So you are the one unable to use your (((intellect))), and (((intellect))) itself is not good inherently and is often only evil.
>>533931171there are a lot of low IQs who think that red and blue button aligns along strict ethical lineswhen it's really more like>white ubermensch choose red>white oversocialized liberals choose blue>third worlders choose red in generalthe post red world is just white chad nationalists curb stomping the rest of the planet without retarded bleeding hearts holding them back
>>533931259but.. oh no! the mail-in-button-presses are in!
>>533930998Why would I give you a job when I can choose a bluefag instead? Seems like bluefags are more trustworthy than redfags. I really cant trust you.
>>533931328>old man yells at cloudsThat's what the world is like. You live in a world of red button pushers, deal with it.
>>533931372you endanger gullible retards who will try to vote blue to save you
I was thinking about this, will kids be able to take an informed decision? Can we choose for our kids?
>>533931267What question? This is the buttom general, we discuss pressing buttons. Take your meds, schizo.
This shit is such an IQ filter lmao.Just push the red button, idiot. There is zero risk.This isn't even a "Many vs few" or collective vs individual question. It's literally just one button risks you dying and the other doesn't. Just push the one that doesn't kill you, moron.
>>533931171In case you didn't know about it yet, this is the world you live in right now.Vote blue = Kill yourselfVote red = LiveBlue pusher are all liars, with a true risk of death, 99% of them would vote red, not blue.Anyone with a brain know the fate of humanity is extremely dark, and yet none of these blue pusher button is willing to do shit to change that fate and prevent the death of billions, yet they proclaim to care about the life of other, even if it mean to take a chance to die trying to save them. Ridiculous.
>>533931422If I am pressing blue it means that I don't need to be saved though, it is a rational choice made from free will. I would rather not live in a world where only those who pushed red are still around, as that would be a world filled with evil, so death in that scenario is not something to be avoided and in fact is to be embraced.
>>533931408Of course you'd want bluefags working for you. Bluefags are oversocialized faggots who self-harm to benefit other people. I'd hire a bluefaggot for menial tasks too.
>>533930752selfish, you mean. Don't try to rationalize it.Selfishness is also the only true evil.
>>533931328blue button pressers would sit next to a nigger on a bus to prove how racist they arent
>>533931541>I would rather not live in a world where only those who pushed red are still aroundThat's like 99% of people, though. The remaining people wouldn't even notice you were gone.
The billions of Indians, Muslims and Chinese would press the Red Button so the Blue Button is suicide. Lots of whites would just die.
>>533931371thanksso no account for an even 50/50 split edge case?kek>>533931458the question around which all this schizo-posting as was shared by >>533931458you disingenuous beaner faggot
I don't understand, why can't everyone just pick red?It seems that if I pick red, and trust everyone else to do the same, we'll have no issues?Does everyone get told the rules? How is this even a question?>Pick red to be fine>Pick blue to risk it, and maybe be fineWhat?
>>533931534Humanity is also way more, but you have been jaded by the jew. Too bad you lost your SOVL somewhere - or you are a darkie/jew and never had one to begin with.
Seriously, what a midwit detector.Low IQ people just push the red one because duh, it doesn't kill you.Midwits disintegrate into self-defeating suicidal altruism.Intelligent people push the red button because, duh, it doesn't kill you.Always fun to get to laugh at midwits.
>>533931541>If I am pressing blue it means that I don't need to be saved thoughYou're thinking of red. You are in no risk if you press red. You only need saving if you put yourself in danger by pressing blue.
>>533931541Exactly. I rather die than living in a world full of subhuman machiavellian freaks. I guess redfags dont see anything wrong with that since they are machiavellian freaks themselves.
>>533931681>>Pick red to be fine>>Pick blue to risk it, and maybe be fine>What?Yep, that's it. Everyone scratches their heads at the bluetards and their mysterious ways.
>>533931761But who is it hurting if I pick red? How does that negatively impact anyone else?
>>533931681>I don't understand, why can't everyone just pick red?No, you understand perfectly.It's just that you're missing what you don't understand. The part that you don't understand is that there are a lot of midwits who push blue because they leap at any and every chance to virtue signal, even if it kills them.
Here is the short answer.If you pick blue, your intention is to save all of society including yourself.If you pick red, you are afraid of the potential risk of picking blue and therefore selfishly vote to preserve yourself and take no risks.This is a test of complicity in an authoritarian society; you don't want to be harmed but you're willing to sacrifice the other 50% and live in fear for the rest of your life while you subserviently obey your masters.
>>533931497the blue argument is that some invalids like children, old folks, and retards will accidentally press blue so you're morally obligated to press blue to save them
>>533931682I already proven you are a liar that is pressing the red button. Your life prove it by your inaction of stoping the incoming massacre of billions of humans. It's quite easy to pretend to be a saint, far more difficult to be one. Keep lying to yourself buddy
>>533931761>I guess redfags dont see anything wrong with that since they are machiavellian freaks themselves.Well then world is majority indian and chinese, so I guess you can kill yourself right now.
>>533931808>erm actually its the reds that are the communists and the blues are the heckin liberal democrats!lol
>>533931808If everyone picked red, everyone survives. The people who picked blue are putting their own lives at risk for no reason at all, on some weird heroic fantasy to save the other idiots who picked blue.
>>533931808>If you pick red, you are afraid of the potential risk of picking blue and therefore selfishly vote to preserve yourself and take no risks.What about picking red is selfish? Literally what fucking aspect of picking the "I don't kill myself like an idiot" button falls into that category?Everyone who picks red survives. There's no aspect of picking red that puts other people at risk. The only thing that puts you at risk is if YOU pick blue. Intentionally deciding to pick the "Let's all kill ourselves" button is a you problem, retard.
>>533931542>Of course you'd want bluefags working for you. Bluefags are oversocialized faggots who self-harm to benefit other people. I'd hire a bluefaggot for menial tasks too.Thanks for proving my point. There is just no scenario where you wouldnt hire a bluefag over a redfag, unless you are looking forward to getting backstabbed. Bluefags are more trustworthy.
>>533931808>all the jeets and chinks push red>timmy now outnumbered 100 to 1lmao, I have redfags have fun living in that world
>>533930891top left of the left one is the sole reason I'd always press blue. Nothing else matters.I do hate the existing jew-driven low-trust garbage already, but it would be utterly devastating after that.
>my poll is now being used to start threads Feelsgoodman I promise I won't let the fame get to my head
>>533931808Is there some kind of external danger here? It really seems like everybody is just asked to push a button.Everyone has the same rules explained.Everybody has the same opportunity to make a choice.One carries a lot of risk, one carries none.Everyone COULD pick red.The only ones who'd pick blue are either those who don't understand the assignment, or those who are determined to band together to save anyone who didn't understand the assignment.
>>533928982Red doesn't want anyone to die. Meanwhile, blue jumps into a suicide pact (for no reason) and then gets furious at completely innocent bystanders. Completely unhinged
Quite literally, the best thread topic on /pol/ in years. I haven't laughed this hard in a while.
>>533931681you're jewnigger brained and have no foresight or abstract thought to reason blue is both the moral and logical choice.
>>533931920Can't you admit it's selfish? It is.It seems that the red-rationalizers are the midwits here... whee
>>533930582best post
>>533930842>You're letting 50% of them die without thinking twice?No
>>533931920>most pick red, some blues die>most pick blue, no one dies
>>533931541>>533931761>IF YOU DON'T KILL YOURSELF WITH ME YOU'RE EVILNot my problem
>>533931818>the blue argument is that some invalids like children, old folks, and retards will accidentally press blue so you're morally obligated to press blue to save themThought experiments are for consenting adults only, friendo. In moral quandaries, only agents of capable of making moral decisions are assumed to be considered.If you want to bring infants and the demented into the puzzle, sure. That's an entirely different discussion though. The current discussion is one of moral agents and suicidal altruism, not one of "but what about the children!?"
>>533931992>Just pick blue goyim, otherwise you're a kikelol, nice try
>>533930891this reads like the briefing for the "russia bad ukraine good mkay let's make it work people chop chop" press kit, i shit you not
>>533931808Here is the short answer.If you pick red, your intention is to survive and benefit society, including yourself.If you pick blue, you are afraid of the personal responsibility inherent in picking red and therefore vote to put yourself at risk if not saved at risk of others.This is a test of complicity in an authoritariam society; you don't want to take personal responsibility but you're willing to risk others and cower in fear for the rest of your life while you subserviently obey the mob.
>>533931992Please explain why, you can still use insults if you want, I just want to understand.If there was an external threat mentioned, and the question was "do you save only yourself, or band together with others to try and save everybody" it would be easier to choose blue.But it really sounds like everybody just gets asked, there's no danger you just have to pick "be fine" or "gamble, and maybe save other gamblers"
>>533930297So here we go again. Blue button pressers have to use manipulative tactics about how little children and others with no capacity to make an informed decision are literally forced to choose regardless. This is where it is no longer a meaningful thought experiment but sinister manipulation to try to force everyone to fall in line with irrationality and press the blue button. There is no intellectual honesty about this whole debate from the blue side at all. It's all emotional extortion, manipulation, tricks, threats, non sequiturs, false equivalences, insults, accusations, all the way in every single thread.
>>533931952>>533931925>>533931920>>533931895>>533931885Here is the other short answer.Switch the colors.Watch everyone vote blue.This is a parable, not a puzzle. You know everyone will logically pick Red, but we are giving the colors IMPLICITYI'd vote red myself, of course, but in reality I would vote democratic instead of authoritarian even though I still know that the authoritarians essentially intend to kill me.That's the actual test.
>>533932035>Can't you admit it's selfish? It is.How? Picking red puts zero people at risk, because every other person is perfectly capable of picking the "I don't kill myself" button themselves.The only people who die are people who chose to die. It is only my responsibility to save them from themselves if they ask for me to help them.>>533932080So don't pick blue.Picking blue means you might die. Don't pick the kill yourself button. It's that simple.
>>533932107the original said "everyone in the world" so many people included the literal interpretation of that consideration in the thought experiment.You'll be astounded at how quickly bluefags that call reds sociopaths flip to red once you explain that children aren't included. Despite even if children aren't included the core argument for choosing blue ( idiots who don't know any better ) still stands.Blues are dumb virtue signallers.
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>>533932329me not putting myself at risk to save others =/= I am a murdererif that was true we are all murderers right now in realitywhy are bluetards like this?
>>533930891you're a goddam commie
>>533930891Woman coded seethe post.
The meta is to tell everyone else to pick blue, while you cheekily pick red when nobody's looking.
>>533932250Your choice is driven only by your needs. It's the definition. Everything top of that is the attempt of rationalization.Does it hurt to admit it's selfish? Apparently so.
this is who you are trying to keep alive with when you choose blue by the way
>>533932406The reason they are like that is in the name.. blueTARDS
>>533932295>the original said "everyone in the world"Yeah, yeah, semantic garbage.It is a thought experiment about moral agency. Everyone enters such a thought experiment under the assumption that only those capable of moral agency are part of the puzzle.>so many people included the literal interpretation of that consideration in the thought experiment.Sure. If you want to taint the simple premise of the thought experiment by assuming additional superfluous moral baggage, then sure, the "Let's not kill 1 billion babies" button is probably correct.I choose not to assume that. Red is the only correct button to press in a "simple thought experiment" vacuum.
Vote for Blue govt: Everyone deserves a fair chance so we use your taxes to fund free education and health care.Vote for Red govt: You have to compete with everybody else to get ahead, if you have money you can skip the line otherwise you are left to fend for yourself, it's the survival of the fittest.You fucking know exactly why republicans vote that way. They believe they are superior, but in reality they are actually just really dumb.
But I do like this new Prisoners dilemma / Trolley.
all blues are spiritually trannies btw>I'm an insane narcissist and i am demanding that society play this game with me. If the majority of you don't go along with everything I say, I die a self inflicted death. Anyone that refuses is EVIL because it's important that I feel good.It's almost 1:1
>>533932500>Your choice is driven only by your needs. It's the definition.Logos is not pathos. You are wrong in this assertion. A choice driven by logos is not a choice driven by pathos.
>>533930730>/pol/ should be in charge of the planetwe should leave the onions sauce and tofu creation to the yellows, i don't want anything to do with that.
>>533932596>Vote for Blue govt: Everyone deserves a fair chance so we use your taxes to fund free education and health care.in reality you get 10 million jeets into your country
>>533932500kill yourself right now then retard. you wont because of your 'selfish' desire to continue living.
>>533932660kek this is true. they use the same arguments and have the same emotional responses when you dint play along with their mental illness
>>533932597see >>533931502My OC Please Steal
>>533932500>Does it hurt to admit it's selfish? Apparently so.Its blows my mind how redfags gaslight themselves into thinking that picking red isnt selfish. They truly are the NPCs of the button pickers.
>>533931502That about sums it up.
>>533932844I have no problem to admit that lots of stuff I do is selfish. Apparently evil(?) people have that problem.new dogwhistle, mebbe.
>>533932844see>>533932726your continued existence is 'selfish'. the food you eat today could instead feed some starving nigger. but youre selfish and letting them die
The trick is, to convince everyone you don't like to pick blue
>>533932844self preservation is not selfishgive away all your money to the needy or you're selfishdo you see how dumb you sound right now?
>>533929037This meme is so self defeating it's hilarious. Tries to sound smart with a completely mitwit meme. lol. Tell me, if 95% of the population have already picked blue, why would you even pick red? To prove to the rest of the world that you're a selfish asshole? HAHAHA. Loser ass meme. Get out of here, nigger.
>>533931502
>>533933036this is what jews are doing to white people in this very thread
>>533931502>>533933067
>>533927933Naming them after political party colors was retarded. It should have been something like purple and yellow.
>>533932844>Its blows my mind how redfags gaslight themselves into thinking that picking red isnt selfish.Merely deciding to not end yourself isn't an act of selfishness.
>>533933064give me one reason i wouldnt pick red even if it was 99.9% blue.
>>533933036at least you have lots of extra knowledge about the rest of the people you are left with.Societal collapse would be guaranteed. Sure, people will tell that they "did rational thing", but they know that they are saying the same thing.oopsie.
>>533933036>>533933073
>>533932844Yes it is selfish. I save my life for the cost of an absurdely low probability that my vote will actually tip the balance and do harm
>>533933093Not everyone is under the USA fake 2 party system bro
>>533933141>rational self interest means stabbing each other in the back for zero or minor benefit hurr durr durr rational and self interested agents cannot be cooperative!bluefags are actually this retarded
>>533933136We'll know that you're a selfish prick if it ever were to get out. That's why.Also, you're damning your soul. Don't worry, I believe in your right to exist as a spiritual nigger.
>>533933181At least you are honest about it. But If you are confident that bluefags would win. Then why not join them in pushing the blue button?
>>533927933Red and blue is Masonic code
>>533933301>I picked blue and put my life at risk for no reason>you HAVE to save me or you're a BAD PERSON!!!!It's like a bunch of of people who voluntarily chose to dangle from a rope, who demand everyone else dangle on the rope with them.
>>533932520This.I'm a chud, but I don't want to live populated ONLY by chuds>and jeets
>>533933275Weird, do check rest of your "red" friends here. Would you actually trust any of them? Nice company.I'd love to call this dilemma: Collapse of Demiurge's Prison.
>>533930891Everyone who presses red survives.Everyone who presses blue has a significant risk of death.Just press red.
>>533933363>But If you are confident that bluefags would win. Then why not join them in pushing the blue button?If he is confident the bluefags will win, there should be no motivation to pick blue, but there would still be enough seed of doubt to press red. Plus that's the default in people with common sense. It's not like, "be on the winning side, get free ice cream."
>>533933301lol the game explicitly states it is a private vote, but even if it werent, im not a low t group consensus FAGGOT like you i do not change or act against my beliefs because im afraid of retaliation
>>533932520>The world of red button pushers is low trustI trust you to not be stupid.That is the highest amount of trust there is.
>>533933363>But If you are confident that bluefags would winI am not. I'm saying it's absurdely improbable that my 1 vote changes the outcome either way. My vote is disproportionately more consequential for my own life than it is for the collective
why are retarded twitter memes being shilled herego back and take your stupid thread with you
>>533933363if youre confident that bluefags will win then there is no reason to care one way or the other. you might as well flip a coin at that point, the end result will be the same
>>533933363>But If you are confident that bluefags would win. Then why not join them in pushing the blue button?No amount of confidence would justify how stupid it is to press the blue button.
>>533933141>Societal collapse would be guaranteed.a crystalline hierarchy would be guaranteed*polar opposite of collapse>Sure, people will tell that they "did rational thing"Because they did and they know they did. There is no scenario in which the reds die because that decision is favored by the logos. Rational thought is inseparable from a stable environment that features a collection of conscious individuals.
>>533933543I trust you not to be a faggot, but here we are...
Funny seeing Blue Buttoners talk about selfishness, when the only reason they're pressing the blue button is to virtue signal so they can look good to others.
>>533933519Are you responding to the wrong person? Lol. What are you talking about? I agree, the game should explicitly say that it's not only private vote, but there's no time to discuss ahead of time. I also don't care about retaliation - and it's very clear who the contemptuous crowd is. I will proudly press the blue button, and I fear not retaliation or death from the "wrong choice".
>>533933688>I trust you not to be a faggotWhy would you put your trust in that?Are you an idiot?
>>533930581If EVERYONE pressed red EVERYONE would survive.The only people who are pressing blue are people who stop thinking when they see emotive language like Death or Die or Kill. Or the suicidally egotistical who have a desperate need to show how good they are.Pressing blue is like tripping over a public bench and getting stabbed by the kind of person you spent your life defending from people who say he shouldn't be allowed to stab you.
>>533933518But that kind of outcome only makes sense if others took the risk by trusting others bluefags. You want the benefits of a bluefag society while being a redfag yourself. You are the kind of person who wants to reap the benefits of a high-trust society without contributing to it.
>>533927933I push the ORANGE button that saves everyone I like and kills everyone I don't like.
>>533927933guys this is the real poll https://strawpoll.com/wAg3QdpvOy8
>>533933744are you responding to the wrong person? you explicitly say that i shouldnt press red because people will find out about my choice. you are free to kill yourself. i wont try and control you
>>533933724Its statistically impossible that everyone is going to chose red. Someone is going to die because of your choice of picking red. Thats blood on your hands no matter what way you want to rationalize it.
>>533933852>But that kind of outcome only makes sense if others took the risk by trusting others bluefagsWhat, free ice cream?>Rest of postI only want to take personal responsibility for my own safety, thereby not endangering others nor relying upon the irrational or malicious whims of the mob.
Would bluefags tell their small children to hit the blue button? Honestly, no bullshit virtue signaling, would you do that?
>>533933833>if everyone was a was a good person communism would work!!!this is what you sound like
>>533934034>Thats blood on your hands no matter what way you want to rationalize it.There's this thing called "personal responsibility"
>Blue Button "High trust"Everyone else be browbeaten and emotionally blackmailed into doing what we declare by fiat to the right thing.>Red Button High TrustThe innate understanding your peers are smart enough to not leap off a cliff while shouting that you're an evil person for refusing to join them.
>>533934061>Would bluefags tell their small children to hit the blue button? Honestly, no bullshit virtue signaling, would you do that?I think they wouldn't even press the blue button themselves. They are complete assholes, and spiritually kikes.
>>533931631Then why are you so concerned about convincing me to be evil and push the red button?
>>533933954How would I kill myself if 95%+ people pressed blue, which is what I originally said, according to meme that was posted?.... red button pushers have not only proven themselves immoral in these arguments, but somewhat illiterate as well. Good job.
>>533933724you are so super-defensive about this. Are you sure you are not just evil in denial?Blue wins:> nothing actually changes> get extra information that 50%+ people are somewhat decent or just try to do "good" for whatever reasonRed wins:> Those "pesky blues" get eradicated> You know that 100% existing people will absolutely betray you if it benefits themI've seen enough of the humanity already, so I would press Blue regardless if people are shouting that'll they press Red. And yes, it's very selfish of me.
>>533934061Well yeah, who is supposed to raise them if im gone? But, its also teaching my children the right values by not choosing to be a selfish redfag.
>>533934096Jews would press the blue button because they're not stupid enough to run their cattle herd off a cliff and starve for it. They take good care of their lesser goyim. Red is just antisemitic goy
A true high trust society does not require emotional blackmail to sustain its systems.Just saying.
>>533928172>Elgin thread priming for anons to choose being slaves for the fake alien invasionKek.Everyone is a tough-guy fedboi until the zip-ties and road flares come out.
>>533934096this.i trust my fellow intelligent and rational whites to do what is best for them, and by extension, best for all of us. ive asked my friends and family this question and they all came to the same conclusion that red is logical, and blue is needlessly suicidal.bluefags dont trust their fellow men to make rational choices.
>>533934034>someone is going to die because of your choice of picking redextremely unlikely in a population of millions or billions. you mean to say because of the majority's choice, but that's not me
>>533930842>Can't convince 0-2 year olds to press red. You're letting 50% of them die without thinking twice?is this the same logic behind circumcising babies?>>533932242>leftist/woman has to re-define every heckin component of the problem and then shit in the middle of the street...>>533932178best post in this thread... now get in the robot, shinji!!
>>533927933>voting bluehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKZJdaiJF84
>>533934088Boomer-tier mindset
>>533934253Jews definitely want less of us. Are you kidding me.Red-presser is the Paragon of Jewish Virtue.
>>533934034Every day there are people who press the blue button. Every day people shoot themselves. People overdose on drugs. People die from complications of obesity. People crash while not wearing seat belts. People drink and drive.
>>533933950Well so far the data shows 80% chance of Op being a faggot . Keep voting so we can find the answer to this profound question.https://strawpoll.com/wAg3QdpvOy8
>>533934228you said you didnt fear death from the "wrong choice". clearly you arent talking about the 95% scenario there. your retarded "gotchas" are pathetic lol you cant refute anything im saying and didnt even respond to the point made
>>533934226Have you considered that maybe he cares about your wellbeing and is simultaneously rational?
>>533931052>Only 50% of people need to pick blue for everyone to survive.>Only 4 billion people need to put their life on the line for some rando toddlers and retarded people to surviveFtfy
>>533932520They fear terms, ideas and logic so much they would consciously end themselves before opening up. I'm speechless
This is a test of personal responsibility. Anyone who presses blue believes that others are unable to take responsibility for their actions and feel a sense of moral superiority to them.Anyone who pushes red believes that people should be held repsonsible for their actions, recognizes that there is no risk associated with this choice on an individual level, and recognizes that anyone who is stupid enough to press blue (all risk for no additional reward) deserves to deal with the consequences of their choice.
>>533934431Swapping ID's now 1pbtid?
>>533934237> get extra information that 50%+ people are somewhat decent or just try to do "good" for whatever reasonYou don't know what decency is.It is only right to sacrifice yourself if the cause of your sacrifices is good and just.The claim that pressing blue is "right" because you "save" others is ridiculous, because the only person you are saving are idiots who also pushed the sudoku button.Though it is my responsibility to save fools wherever is reasonable, it is not my responsibility to save them from themselves, and especially not to save them against their will. It is their decision to die. It is right to allow them to make that choice.Decency is not mere acquiescence to perceived goodness. It is the unflinching commitment to what is right, in accordance to the highest divine that is pure unjudgemental logos. It is not always right to sacrifice yourself, no matter the cause. It is right to sacrifice yourself only sometimes.You aren't deep enough a thinker yet to understand the difference between performative goodness, and true moral character. You'll get there, though.
>>533934525my ip changes frequently. im not pretending to be anyone but myself in this conversation
>>533932329There is no chance of being a mass murderer since you're choosing the only rational option, which is self-preservation. You didn't choose to kill anyone. It's not as if others are prevented from choosing the exact same thing. It's completely fair without the added layer of manipulation from team blue. Every rational person ought to choose red if this were a real choice rather than a virtue signaling contest. I would certainly tell everyone I know to be rational because that's what separates us from other animals. If they die, they literally did it to themselves because they failed at the most fundamental level of the organism, which is to preserve life. You cannot help anyone or preserve anyone else's life if you're dead yourself. Pressing blue is to irrationally hand over control of your own life to the horde's caprices based on an emotional argument. If blue pressers can persuade enough people to go against the basic law of life and gamble their own life by pressing blue, good for them, but the red pressers will survive regardless of how the blue pressers' irrational side show goes.>>533933496Why would you trust your irrational blue horde? They are the people who go on witchhunts. They are the people who fuck up everything in society with their irrationality and emotional manipulation. They are the ones spewing nonstop hatred, vitriol, threats, and insults in these threads, while pretending to be very good and caring people. If this is the kind of people you prefer to hang out with in real life, good luck, but don't blame me when they turn on a dime and abandon your ass in time of need and tell you they're "with you in spirit" lul.>>533934086An irrational person cannot be a reliably good person. They can be a good person only inconsistently. The emotions that cause them to do good also cause them to do evil.
>>533934237more like>Blue wins:>Obama gets another term as president>Steve Jobs gets resurrected to save the economy>Red wins:>Those "pesky blues" finally committed suicide>The world starts healing and returning to the pre-napoleonic era
>>533934346>personal responsibility is "boomer"We are cooked, chat, frfr no cap. It's all Ohio.Boomers talk about personal responsibility but don't practice it. That doesn't mean personal responsibility isn't vital on every level.
>>533934593Ok glownigger newfag
>>533932329This, except Blue is more like a 99.999% chance of dying though
>>533934514Yes
>>533928073Why would anyone take the blue pill in first place?
>>533934634lol
>>533934571lots of blaa-blaa and projection for things that I even didn't say or claim? You definitely are the king of midwits.The only truly selfless choice is to pick "Red" and try to bring some trust back to the resulting hell-hole. Nope, I'd personally not go there. Blue it is.
>>533934253Jews would vote red and then claim they voted blue and try to shame you into doing so
>>533934431Just because I don't fear making the "wrong choice" doesn't mean I'm not hopeful or even confident that blue button pushers could "win".... lol. Seriously, you guys are mitwids, and soulless.
>>533932329Herd animals get culled or slaughtered. Only humans can be murdered.
>>533934705You have to jump in front of the train in case other people jump in front of the train, because if enough people jump, the mass will stop the train and they'll be okay. Or something like that, idk im not a blithering idiot.
>>533927933is this the new dress psyop for nu/pol/
>>533934749>lots of blaa-blaa and projection for things that I even didn't say or claim? You definitely are the king of midwits.I can't help but notice the distinct lack of actually engaging with what I've said.Perhaps because you are incapable of doing so. Oh well, sucks for you. Stay blue.
Can I press both buttons?
>>533934623oof, don't you fucking combine the colors with actual parties. I'm nigger and jew hating bastard, but I do love humanity.Dems say "blue" but press red. That's how it would be.
>>533934705OMG anon you're so fucking selfish for picking the red pill you evil fuck babies will literally die!!1
>>533927933This has got be supper hard for the colorblind.
>>533934705because theyre irrational narcissists obsessed with virtue signalling
>>533934828Sure, but whichever one triggers first, even by a femtosecond, is the one that counts.
>>533932329someone else that doesn't understand what murder is
>>533934825bluefags are incapable of logic and debate. their only defense is trying to shame you
>>533928256What would actually happen
>>533934976Murder is when you get yourself to safety in a dangerous situation instead of throwing yourself into danger and expecting to be rescued. Very basic.
>>533934844I was not combining it with parties, but you are a dumb landwhale that can't into abstract thinkingobama had absolutely nothing to do with the dems that came before him (maybe except that global warming guy that lost to bush)
>>533934226Choosing the rational button doesn't mean he wants you dead. He would want you dead if he told you to pick the blue one, which is the only one that has this possibility
>>533935004>their only defense is trying to shame youAnd guess what?I think we're finally getting past the point of that mattering. Shaming tactics are over. Too much has been burned into the dirt, smashed and brought to ruin attempting to look the part. Recoiling from shaming tactics, we've allowed all that is beautiful that we've created to be destroyed.In the face of such failure, the only emotional reply I have left to such tactics is to shrug, shoo them away, and then get back to work fixing this shit.Our greatness never left. It just needed a moment to rest.
>>533930891>A high trust society just happensEurope had a high trust society because it had shit like this.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanged,_drawn_and_quartered>Convicted traitors were fastened by the feet to a hurdle, or wooden panel, and drawn behind a horse to the place of execution, where they were then hanged (almost to the point of death), emasculated, disembowelled, beheaded, and quartered. Their remains would then often be displayed in prominent places across the country, such as London Bridge, to serve as a warning of the fate of traitors.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flaying>In 1303, the treasury of Westminster Abbey was robbed while holding a large sum of money belonging to King Edward I. After the arrest and interrogation of 48 monks, three of them, including the subprior and sacrist, were found guilty of the robbery and flayed. Their skin was attached to three doors as a warning against robbers of church and state.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_by_boiling>"He roared mighty loud, and divers women who were big with child did feel sick at the sight of what they saw, and were carried away half dead; and other men and women did not seem frightened by the boiling alive, but would prefer to see the headsman at his work."https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impalement#Transversal_impalement_2>Within the Holy Roman Empire, in article 131 of the 1532 Constitutio Criminalis Carolina, the following punishment was stated for women found guilty of infanticide. Generally, they should be drowned, but the law code allowed for, in particularly severe cases, that the old punishment could be implemented. That is, the woman would be buried alive, and then a stake would be driven through her heart.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mazzatello>The Mazzatello, is an Italian term that refers to a method of capital punishment involving the use of a mace, mallet, or club-like weapon to inflict head trauma.
>>533929844>Being rational and making a rational decision to protect your interests is psychopathyThe only one you should blame is the person who designed the system.
>>533934847>babies will literally dieThis is an assumption
>>533927933This is the true way
>>533935173https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blowing_from_a_gun>"The prisoner is generally tied to a gun with the upper part of the small of his back resting against the muzzle. When the gun is fired, his head is seen to go straight up into the air some forty or fifty feet; the arms fly off right and left, high up in the air, and fall at, perhaps, a hundred yards distance; the legs drop to the ground beneath the muzzle of the gun; and the body is literally blown away altogether, not a vestige being seen."https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schwedentrunk>The Schwedentrunk (German: [ˈʃveːdn̩ˌtʁʊŋk], Swedish drink) is a method of torture and execution in which the victim is forced to swallow large amounts of a foul liquid, such as excrement. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breaking_wheel>The breaking wheel, also known as the execution wheel, the Wheel of Catherine or the (Saint) Catherine('s) Wheel, was a torture method used for public execution primarily in Europe from antiquity through the Middle Ages up to the 19th century by breaking the bones of a criminal or bludgeoning them to death.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keelhauling>Keelhauling (Dutch kielhalen;[1] "to drag along the keel") is a form of punishment and potential execution once meted out to sailors at sea. The sailor was tied to a line looped beneath the vessel, thrown overboard on one side of the ship, and dragged under the ship's keel, either from one side of the ship to the other, or the length of the ship (from bow to stern).https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_by_sawing#Americas>In 1757, a French officer was executed by his men in a mutiny on Cat Island in current-day Mississippi. Three of the mutineers were eventually captured and brought to New Orleans for trial. After conviction, two of the mutineers died on the breaking wheel. The last, a Swiss from the Karrer regiment, was nailed into a coffin-shaped wooden box which was sawn in two with a cross-cut saw.
>>533934096Blue "high trust" are communists who think that people need to be forced into cooperation on pain of deathRed high trust is national socialism acknowledging that not every group of people can be trusted, and that the basis of shared prosperity is rational self interest among peers.
>>533932406>>533934621>>533934781>>533934976I don't care what it's called, I just picked the most extreme formulation but the argument still stands. It is very improbable that your red vote will be in a definite causal relationship to a mass dying event. Bluefags will tell you something about "contribution" but I don't care. If the result is functionally the same no matter what I vote, than I'll rather optimize for the other metric which is my life
>>533935181
>>533935173chill out Taiwan Chang, you think you are attacking that commie dipshit but in fact you are attacking your friends
>>533935263https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_by_burning>Death by burning, also called immolation, is an execution, murder, or suicide method involving combustion or exposure to extreme heat. It has a long history as a form of public capital punishment, and many societies have employed it as a punishment for and warning against crimes such as treason, heresy, and witchcraft. The best-known execution of this type is burning at the stake, where the condemned is bound to a large wooden stake and a fire lit beneath. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disembowelment#Europe> On 14 July, after suffering various tortures during each of the five days since the assassination, Gérard was disemboweled and dismembered while still alive, after which his heart was torn out and then he was beheaded by his Dutch executioners.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gibbeting>Gibbeting is the use of a gallows-type structure from which the dead or dying bodies of criminals were hanged on public display to deter other existing or potential criminals. Occasionally, the gibbet was also used as a method of public execution, with the criminal being left to die of exposure, thirst and/or starvation.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immurement>Immurement (from Latin im- 'in' and murus 'wall'; lit.'walling in'), also called immuration or live entombment, is a form of imprisonment, usually until death, in which someone is placed within an enclosed space without exits.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upright_jerker>As in a hanging, a cord would be wrapped around the neck of the condemned. However, rather than dropping down through a trapdoor, the condemned would be violently jerked into the air by means of a system of weights and pulleys. The objective of this execution method was to provide a swift death by breaking the condemned's neck. The warden of the Connecticut State Prison at Wethersfield, Jabez L. Woodbridge, obtained US patent 541409, issued on June 18, 1895, for one such "automatic gallows".
Taiwan Chang is on meth again...
idk this problem is kinda stupid? There are no consequences of clicking red neither moral not otherwise. it's not even "selfish" it's just non-retarded
>>533935357>NOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST POINT OUT THAT EUROPE HAD NO TOLERANCE FOR CRIMINALS IN THE PAST NOOOOOOOOOOOOOIf we brought back capital punishment, the migrants would flee.
>>533935347to ruminate what exactly is so bad about it and how it should be different
>>533927933You can appeal to my rationale with your inverted logic. I will still press red.You can tell me there are imbeciles that have already pressed blue and that we need to save them. I will still press red.You can look me in the eyes and beg and plead for your life and say that you personally have pressed blue and I need to save you. I will still press red.You can call me a monster, a sociopath and an edgelord. I will still press red.I will keep pressing red until there are no blue button pushers left. Until logic and reason has prevailed and we live in a society where rationale and individual responsibility reigns supreme.You live in a "No button presser left behind" society. In a "Button diversity is our strength" society.I reject your society.Me, my children and my fellow citizens will fight for our lives, our culture, our freedom and our blood and soil. In my society, everyone presses red.In my society we are not slaves to the tyranny of the button.Not slaves to the nanny state nor the communist empaths.We will not join your suicide cult. We are free men.And we press red.
Bluefags are stupid, and worse yet, they are immoral.Bluefags deliberately choose to put a gun to their own heads, and threaten the world they'll pull the trigger, unless enough people kowtow to their demands, after which they will gloat about their supposed "altruism" and selflessness like the over-socialized bugmen they are.Sentiments like>I press blue because I am "high trust" >I press blue because I have faith in mankind>I press blue because I am not selfish>I press blue because I'd rather die than live in a redfag worldall demonstrate the same, feminine desire to signal virtue over demonstrating real virtue. Bluefags are fundamentally moral universalists, and like most universalists they are motivated by feelings and social incentives, rather than integral moral principles, reason, and an understanding of responsibility. This is seen best by the fact that not one bluefag will ever admit that their universalist moralfagging is ultimately self-contradicting: if you love a stranger just as much as you love your own child, YOUR LOVE IS MEANINGLESS. EMPTY. WORTHLESS.In fact, it is less than worthless, such "love" is rather a pure selfish desire for status, attention and the dopamine hit gained from moral grandstanding and finger-wagging.Truly, you are the scum of the earth. Take some responsibility for yourselves, stop holding mankind hostage to your feminine whims, and press the red button you self aggradizing hypocrites.Pic very much related.
>>533935482based next time post this at the start of red blue thread #400 kek
Only smooth brains would pick one color instead of transcending.
>>533935441>idk this problem is kinda stupid?yes, that's part of why it's so fascinating. There are a ton of people who pick blue and the simplicity of the question forces their most fundamental ideas to the surface to justify it. I'm always trying to squeeze core beliefs out of people that disagree with me but with this it's like a cheat code.
>>533935600Cool wall of text. Not pressing red though. Cope.
>>533931502Made another one
blue-pillers willfully commit suicide while the red-pillers simply exist. blue-pill is self-destruction. the red-pill is just existence.
>>533935872Kek'd.This is the answer./thread
>>533930891You are, without a shadow of doubt, clinically insane.
>>533935872both are good
the worst part about this whole discussion is that I am agreeing with everything Diane Yap is saying regarding it even though in other situations her arguments are like she's a retarded foid with no bearing on reality which makes me have to question if I'm the crazy one or she just happens to be super rational on this one subject.
>>533927933It’s interesting how back in the day red was associated with communism . Maybe these color coding psyops change over time?
blues:>we HAVE to work togetheronly way to force a "have" is through violence. the blue is an illusion. there is no blue. they are both red.
>>533935004Give them a break, if they can’t convince you to join them they’re going to die. Probably feeling pretty desperate at this point
Bluefags are awfully quiet about the fact that a high trust society has to be built on the bones of the untrustworthy.Simply expecting people to be nice is how you have 14,000 girls raped in Rotherham.This is how Europe USED to stop muslims raping European girls.>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puckle_gunPuckle demonstrated two configurations of the basic design: the first, intended for use against Christian enemies, fired conventional round bullets, while the second, intended for use against the Muslim Turks, fired unconventional square bullets. The square bullets were considered to be more painful and would cause greater severe wounding. They would, according to the patent, "convince the Turks of the benefits of Christian civilization".But hey, if we don't press the blue button you might not have tacos to snack on after your daughter is raped and murdered in a cornfield!
>>533936010>>533936076>or she just happens to be super rational on this one subject.Enjoying the banter regarding the 'Final Solution to the Button Question" Then I realized this is the Vax/Pureblood debate. hummmmmm
>>533930891truke nuke
>>533936295trueit took about 2000 years to get from Greece to the Renaissance and then Marx and the Bluefags (great band name btw) come along and say that we must demolish everything because in one generation we can build something bettersets my blood boiling
>>533936154I'm totally fine with working together towards a goal. The problem is that there's nothing in this scenario to do, just a serious risk with zero reward>the blue is an illusion. there is no blue. they are both red.I don't know what you mean by this
>>533934506Then he should press blue to ensure that I don't have a choice but to be around him for a longer duration of time. I wont change my mind. Otherwise he cares only for himself and just wants to feign concern to make himself feel better over his evil actions.
>>533936412>truke nukeHead-Canon rambling
>>533936358It's also the fable of Adam and Eve>everyone picks red, nothing bad every happens>the moment someone picks blue, a brand new problem is introduced
>>533936562The redfag seethes at the possibility of bluefags actually existing. Thats why they make up copes in their heads that everyone is actually a redfag in order to avoid the cognitive dissonance that redfags (and by extension themselves) are legitimately awful people.
>>533936146Yeah the color changes over time and of course context.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_states_and_blue_states
>>533936445Bluefags would piss their fucking pants if they learned that not only were the guilty of horrible crimes horrifically executed as an example, but then the criminal's FAMILY would also carry punishments such as heavy fines or even exile, and so YOUR FAMILY would, if you were a low-trust criminal, kill you themselves to spare themselves having to suffer from your crimes.>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kin_punishmentTraditional Irish law required the payment of a tribute (Éraic) in reparation for murder or other major crimes. In the case of homicide, if the attacker fled, the fine had to be paid by the tribe to which he belonged.In medieval Welsh law, the kin of an offender was liable to make compensation for his wrongful act. This penalty (called Galanas) was generally limited to murder.The medieval Polish Główszczyzna fine functioned similarly to the Anglo-Saxon and Scandinavian weregild. >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WeregildWeregild (also spelled wergild, wergeld (in archaic/historical usage of English), weregeld, etc.), also known as man price (blood money), was a tradition in Germanic law whereby a monetary value was established for a person's life, to be paid as a fine or as compensatory damages to the person's family if that person was killed or injured by another. >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SippenhaftSippenhaft or Sippenhaftung (German: [ˈzJpənˌhaft(ʊŋ)], kin liability) is a German term for the idea that a family or clan shares the responsibility for a crime or act committed by one of its members, justifying collective punishment.[1][2] As a legal principle, it was derived from Germanic law in the Middle Ages, usually in the form of fines and compensations. It was adopted by Nazi Germany to justify the punishment of kin (relatives, spouse) for the offence of a family member. Punishment often involved imprisonment and execution, and was applied to relatives of the conspirators of the failed 1944 bomb plot to assassinate Hitler.
>>533935013kek'd and saved
