If you don't want to be controlled by an evil pedo cabal, you cannot allow yourself to be fully dependent on systems they control. This is especially true for food.If you live in the Northern hemisphere, NOW is the time to plant things. If you fill your property with perennial fruit/nut trees/shrubs/vines, you will reap huge harvests with very little effort after a few years of growth. The benefit is HUGE considering the small initial cost. You'd be fucking RETARDED not to do it.
Are those strawberries
>>533935774Life's a beach and then you drown
>>533935774Can you live off mulberries? I've got a lot of trees on my property
>>533935810No, those are mulberries. They grow on trees. You'd be SHOCKED by how productive they are.
>>533935774Those are poison
>>533935774>your propertyYeah I'll just call my mom and dad and tell them to give me their house that they're planning on selling for their retirement
>>533935849They contain a ton of vitamin C and iron and are absolutely delicious. They are fairly perishable, so you should make preserves out of them (or alcohol).>>533935876No, they aren't.
>>533935774>hemisphere?You are brain washed by jewshttps://youtu.be/0FLJVJk8KPc
>>533935877>Bank wants 50% down for undeveloped rural land. >Most plots over 10 acre $250 000+ >want parents to enjoy their retirement comfortable (they earned it)>expect no inheritance
>>533935851is it just like eating a big raspberry?
>>533935774>nature's sour candy
>>533935851the birdies eat all my mullberries and diahrea all over my car >:/
>>533936095It's very comparable. If you like raspberries, you'll like mulberries.
>>533936128Gooseberries make for amazing preserves. They are rich in pectin, so they set very well. Don't sleep on their cousins, though. Currants are delicious, too. I've got a couple varieties, since they're very cold hardy.
>>533935774>dependent on systemsFucker, I AM the system!! :3
>>533935940what? greenland is that brown landmass connected to the north pole lol
>>533935810those are what i eat out of your sister's pussy when she is on the rag.
>>533935774Please advise, I dont know what to do. I have the energy and will, but not the skill. What do I plant? How do I do it cheap?My BIGGEST problem is the FYCKING GRASS invades and takes over evry single plot no matter what I do what the fuck do farmers do to magically make nothing but the plants they want grow?
While we're on the subject of preserves, consider growing some rhubarb. It's a perennial vegetable, but we treat it like a sour fruit when cooking.
>>533936346What hardiness zone are you in? That's going to dictate what you can grow.
>>533936346>what I do what the fuck do farmers do to magically make nothing but the plants they want grow?they spray agent orange everywhere AKA glyphosate
I used to sit on a tree and eat mulberry fruit. It was so much fun.
>>533936376Swiss chard is better. If Italians use it then it is fine for eating
Mulberry. Tarp on ground shake the tree delicious and make your teeth white
>>533936466One of my fondest memories of my childhood was eating fresh produce from our yard. 10/10.>>533936486Chard is okay, but it's not a replacement for rhubarb by any stretch.
I still eat them, there are trees in the parks I frequent. Every season they are ripe I go for a walk, and snack.
>>533936403We just went from 5b to 6a, exciting times.
>>533936417How does it not kill the good plants? Do I spray that now, wait a couple days then plant?
>>533936571You're in prime berry country, then.Try to aim for stuff that can survive 4-7, just to make sure especially hot summers/cold winters don't ruin your hard work and you should be fine.
>>533935774I have a grow tent for this exact purpose. You can set up a rack for mushroom tubs and grow edible mushrooms forever if you keep repeating the process. I'm going to be starting a fuckload of mulberry trees too next year. They're native here in KS but its like ((they)) cut them all down. We have walnuts, acorns and juniper berries, crab apples, and cherries but they're scarce. Johnny Appleseed is the nomadic messiah.>>533935849You couldn't live on it alone but you could survive for a while with mulberries. You can make jam, fruit leather or juice.. Shit like that. It'll get you by but not forever.
>>533936598they use genetically modified plants that can survive the chemicals
>>533936649Fuuuck so what do I get? Is this a model I should copy?
>>533936598You don't need herbicides/pesticides.Look up "companion planting". Things like alliums (onions, shallots, leeks, garlic, chives), nasturtiums and mints act as pest repellents. If you replace the grass with clovers, you won't have to mow it anymore and the clovers will actually improve the soil quality by fixing nitrogen.
>>533936133They're not very similar to be honest
>>533936627Apples are funny. Because the seeds don't grow true to the characteristics of the parent. By planting thousands of seeds, eventually good varieties were discovered and propagated through grafting.He 100% deserves to be such a mythological figure.
>>533936729no i'm just saying how farmers do it to be commercially viable. follow what anon says here >>533936731
>>533935774I had a mulberry tree at my old house. My dog used to eat the berries that fell on the ground, and her fur would be stained purple from laying in them.
>>533936834Monocultures are retarded. It's how the Irish ended up with the potato famine. Learn from history!
>>533935774But I have been doing just that, and not only that I have also been planting seeds in BLM land too. I will create a world with infinite free food and satan cannot stop me.
>>533936346It's called chemicals. Either you:hand weed shitloads of weeds and grasses (extremely time consuming)OrPut plastic covers over OrThick barkchip (good if you have a free source and a large truck)OrChemicalsFor large farms, only chemicals are viable.
>>533936883This is uber based as long as you use local plant varieties.
>>533935774That’s a lie. I’ve tried growing food for years and most of the time the best I get out of any harvest of vegetables is enough to last two weeks.
>>533936883BLM land?Are you trying to feed the niggers?Don’t feed the niggers.
>>533937017Bureau of Land Management.It's land owned by the federal government.
>>533936894yep covering the ground with saw dust or wood chips during the off-season is good. you uncover it when you are ready to start sowing seeds
>>533936808He basically opened up the gene pool for an apple orgy.I wish we actually got a record of who this guy really was. There isn't much about him. I believe people are spiritually obligated to follow in the footsteps of Johnny Appleseed. Which is what I will be doing for sure.Our nomadic ancestors used to scatter seeds like wheat on their travels too. So that way when they return in their later migration, they'd have patches of food waiting for them.
>>533936284Edgy
>>533935774I ate a tree of mulberries in one day
>>533937098It just turns out that our ancestors were far smarter than we are today.
>>533935774I remember eating a lot of them when I was little. My mom used to scold me because I often got my clothes stained with mulberry juice, and it’s a pain to wash out.
>>533937128A single mulberry tree can produce between tens and HUNDREDS of pounds of fruit in a year.
>>533936191I bet you got a lot of maple syrup too. LMAO How about a poutine tree? You plant one of them yet? LMAO
>>533936284Bloody cumballs? Gross
>>533937609I don't have enough room for maple trees.It's also worth noting that you can tap most nut trees for their sap. Birch, too.
>>533936095It's nothing like a raspberry, it's its own berry and tastes nothing else like you've ever had.I don't really like them that much but they're better than something like a poor tasting apple, not comparable to a premium berry. B-list berry.Almost always very sweet though, extremely productive, grow fast.
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>>533935774>propertysomeone tell him
>>533935774Op, do you like rap music? If you like rap music and songs about plants, check out this guy? Idk for sure but he seems like a Canadian too.https://youtu.be/Zs_0mLLWg1s?si=UX_-Kblszd5xx9ky
For my Birthday I will order Curcuma caesia and Curcuma amada from eBay!
>>533938887Those grow in the UK?
>>533935774Yup, as it happens, I just finished up planting 30 Chestnut trees.
>>533939698Not outdoors, will keep them indoors.
>>533940457Fucking NICE!>>533940629Ah, that's what I figured.
>>533940673Maybe if I crossbreed Curcuma caesia and Curcuma amada it might be hardier for our local climate. The weather in my area is more like France than the rest of England.
>>533936132I notice if I hang around my mulberry tree in a bird suit they think I am a chad alpha bird and they will stay away and not eat them while I'm near the tree
>>533936346Sounds like you have gooch grass. You have to be persistent. Carefully dig and remove all rhizomes in the spring and autumn . Dont use grass strips between beds. They just become sources of more gooch immigration. Dig those up and remove rizomes there too. Dig good topsoil out of paths onto beds and place tree chippings on paths. Finally dig a 3ft border around the vegetable patch and similarly move its topsoil to the beds and backfill with treechippings/mulch. This border is a kill zone. You have to pull out inward migration of gooch grass. Putting in a physical barrier like roofing tin to a depth of 12” help on outer most perimeter. Its a lot of work to setup, but the year to year maintenance is minimal.
>>533936759Mulberry is a bit insipid, no? You can grow silk worm on the leaves though.
>>533936982Have you tried not being brown?
>>533935774I suck at gardening but thankfully nature provides bountiful edibles on my property>apple>rhubarb>asparagus>mulberry>gooseberry>choke cherry>black raspberry>jerusalem artichokeEdible weeds too>dandelion>lamb's quarter>clover>wood sorrel>stinging nettle>plantain>purslane>prickly lettuce>pineapple weed>curly dock
>>533935774A leaf posting something good for once
Willow tree (can be used to make fences)English willow tree (for cricket bats, which sell for 1-2k).Beech & oak trees (beech and oak forests can give food for boars)Linden forests can give 500 kg honey per hectare per year Quercus suber (cork oak)Salix alba (White willow for willow bark)Pistacia lentiscus (mastic tree)Stone Pines (Pinus pinea)Pine tree (pine pollen)Lemon treeCactuses (they're like water tanks in function)HazelnutHorse chestnutSapindus/Sapindus Mukorossi (soapnut/soapberry)Aloe veraGrapeseed (for the oil)Sorghum (the flour can replace wheat flour 1:1. Just needs a binding agent because it has no gluten, which eggs can achieve in place of gluten)
>>533941718BasilMintOreganoRosemarySageGerman chamomile White horehound (marrubium vulgare) Sweet wormwood (Artemisia annua)Cotton LinenHemp (for paper instead of wood pulp)SilkwormsHevea brasiliensis (for rubber)Sugar Palm (for ethanol fuel)ThymeDandelionsCloverParacressWildflowersSunflowers
>>533941707Nice fig tree.
>>533941750TrufflesKakadu PlumCloveKrachaidum (Kaempferia parviflora) aka Black GingerCoconutPomegranateMandarinOrangeKiwiFigPineappleAvocadoCucumberCaperPeaChilli/CapsaicinCabbageWatermelonBeetTurnipCarrotGingerGarlicOnion (red and Vidalia)PotatoRed and white grapes (for wine and vinegar)Mushrooms
>>533935774I have 2 coconut trees, 6 banana palms, passionfruit vine, chocolate pudding tree, guava tree, 3 pawpaw trees, and growing others like lemon, orange, avocado, rambutan. Shit just grows with no effort here.
>>533941779Oysters:North Haven Island, MaineFree range bottom cultured oyster bed with a gravel floor. No cages, no racks.Located between a freshwater outlet, with a freshwater pond nearby, and a saltwater inlet.Within the estuary, the meeting of freshwater and seawater, along with tidal movement, creates an algae bloom.Can pair with small scale sardine and salmon fishing.Rabbits: Diet of dandelions, cornflowers whole, chamomile flowers, rose buds, dog roses, silverweed, cilantro, parsley, kale, fennel, purple carrots, raspberry leaves, blackcurrant leaves, plantago broadleaf, small leaf, strawberry leaves, nettle leaves, echinacea leaves, Jerusalem artichoke leaves, kohirabi leaves, raddish leaves, crab apple leaves, willow leaves/twigs.In the winter their diet is mainly bark, berries, roots and moss.Their water needs to be slightly acidic to support their probiotic biome, since their guts ferment their food. Add some apple cider vinegar to their water.Medicinally use bee pollen, nigella seeds, and (sometimes) oregano oil.Alpacas or Vicuña:Keep males and females separated.Females don't go in and out of heat, they cycle-on-demand. When the male is introduced to the female, he prompts her to lay down to breed and that's when she cycles. If she's already pregnant, which she will know, then she'll not want to lay down and breed. They can pause their pregnancy at will until they feel that their conditions are right. Gestation period of 12 month, babies need no less than 6 months with mothers.Eat 2.5-3lbs per day (which can be 1.5 hay bales per month, timothy hay offers the right protein content because alpacas are susceptible to fatty liver disease.Shearing takes 10 minutes, and their teeth need to be trimmed with their feet.They don't like the wind.
>>533941884>CoconutMan, I'm jelly. I'd love to try sprouted coconut. I hear it's lovely.
>>533941898Simpliest income streams:HoneyEggs (can use chickens and/or ducks, such as runner ducks)CowsGrass/hayPotatoes25 acres = 10,000lbs of animal. 10 cows at 1000lbs each.75 ewes at 130lbs each.10 cows would ideally produce 10 calves per year, making another 5000lbs of offspring per year.75 ewes would produce another 75 lambs per year, making another 10,000lbs of offspring per year.Cows take 9 months in the womb + 24 months to finish a steer on grass = 33 months ROI.Sheep take 5 months in the womb + 4 months of weaning = 9 months ROI.Graze 1/3rd of paddock. Within each 1/3rd they eat 1/3rd, stomp 1/3rd and leave 1/3rd. Then move to the next paddock. This allows them to come back through the same paddock 3 times per season.Can be done via high density grazing or low-density grazing. With high density grazing, you'll make more rotations per day. Rotate every 3 days or less. Return to paddock no less than 60 days later. If done right, soil organic matter can be rebuilt from .5% to 1% annually.Increasing the carbon content of soil at 1% per acre will allow that acre to hold an additional 80,000 to 100,000 litres of moisture.The difference between soil and desert is 5% worth of carbon. At 1% it is desertified, and at 3% or below the microbes and fungi are dying off.This can be scaled down to the most local of levels. E.g., rather than having one 10,000-hectare farm run by a single farmer, you instead have ten 1000-hectare farms, or one-hundred 100-hectare farms, each run by multiple farmers (or families) and/or teams who rotate throughout the year.
>>533935774I've planted five fruits trees in my backyard. My cane-apple bush is splendid.
>>533941966Ticks thrive in grass, but wildflower fields have little to no ticks.https://www.hawthornhillfarm.com/2018/08/18/why-we-graze-our-sheep-and-goats-on-wildflower-meadow-its-sustainable-they-taste-great/Garlic (and possibly ginger) can be fed to animals as parasite treatment. Garlic is also resistant to hoof activity.Parasites live on the tips of grass when it rains, and they climb. Their resistance lasts for 2 weeks, by 3 weeks the parasite load is virtually nil.The days of rest needed to stop the parasite life cycle is 21 in the dry season and 32 in the wet, or no less than 32 days regardless of season.If there are any eggs or grown worms, chickens can get rid of them.Parasites loathe the Sun (vitamin D), fresh air (oxygen), and herbs (sulfuric compounds and enzyme inhibitors).Opossums, chickens, guineafowl, western capercaillie, and geese (Toulouse geese are not aggressive) are good for ticks, mosquitoes, larvae, etc. control.
>>533941718Lavender grows fast, is hardy, no pests eat it, and bees make tonnes of honey from it
>>533941884You grow pawpaws way down there?Here hardly no one knows about them even though they are from here.
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>>533941884i have to keep my plants inside until middle of may.
>>533935774>have potatoes (4 ridges of 12)>also have broad beans>green beans>cabbage>beetroot>carrots>raspberries>strawberries (30 plants, earlies, mids and lates)>red currents>a load of herbs growing in the greenhouse>patch of comfrey and nettles for fertiliser and composting>gonna make an orchard some day (cherries, apples, hardy varities of apricots, damsons or plums)>know a lot about foraging>have a lot of briars (black berries) in my region>also rowan trees>silver weed>wild roses>blackthorn (sloes)>willow herb (or fireweed for americans)>shit load of dandelions growing>so much wild food>live a couple of miles away from a lough and can fish>also gonna invest in a root cellar some dayI'll never starve. There is always something to eat even without my garden
>>533942052It also turns you gay.
>>533941884I cannot FUCKING KEEP PAWPAWS ALIVE I am in their native habitat and the fucking sun burns them every time
>>533941523Very nice. That's a great list of food you got. I've got lamb's quarter and chickweed growing around the place. It's great stuff. Also there's an old collapsed cottage a field away from me and there's goosberries in the hedges were the garden would had been. I was supposed to take some cuttings this year but i forgot. Thanks for the unintentional reminder
>>533942318Have you tried giving them partial shade?
>>533941884How do you protect your crops from literal dinosaurs over there? That shit's fucked
>>533942859Cassowaries are vital to the Cape York Rainforest for spreading seeds.
>>533943090Not having dangerous animals feels weirder to me, to be honest.Moose are fucking horrifying, btw.
>>533943090Thanks for the factoid, dork. Much appreciated
>>533943522>britian and Ireland have no dangerous anima-
>>533943755Nothing on the isles is as scary as a grizzly or moose.
>>533935851Mulberries taste of nearly nothing (they taste like sugar water with a tiny bit of citric acid)They are a pain in the ass to harvest because unlike other berries, they fall off the bush/tree when they are ripe. Oh and yeah, they grow tall. You are picking berries at ground or hip height, you are climbing a tree to grab them. Or going through the process of using a drop cloth and then picking out the leaves/stems/twigs when you shake the tree to get them off. An apple tree is a way better investment. You can also make vinegar, alcohol, and preserve the apple WAYYY better than berries. Plus apples are ready toward the fall, when the rest of your garden is slowing down and their shelf life is really long without needing preservation in the first place.
>>533943806And no wild animal is as scary or as dangerous as a pavement ape.
>>533944103>Place tarp around tree>Shake it a bit>Huge harvestNot that hard, bro.
Duckweed and azolla ponds are optimal green manure.
>>533944414If you have a pond, you might as well have some fish in it.
>>533944173Just going to ignore the fact that you now have to pick the twigs, leaves, bugs, etc. Out of all the crap that just fell are you? I already brought it up. And for all that work you get the same ammount of berries you would get spending 5 minutes picking, say, blueberries from a bush you can wrap with netting to keep pests out. If you are planting a tree for le prepper survival self sufficiency reasons, apples are the way to go. Persimmons are next, since you will have fruit in the winter. Then grapes, for wine, yeast, raisins (another of very few fruit that preserve well without resorting to jams), and also vinegar. Leave the meme fruit like berries for foraging off of your property.
>>533945813You can make wine from mulberries, bud
>>533935774I prefer just forgaging for wineberries at the park since no one knows what the hell the tare here in addition to foraging in general, but I still garden and do Aquaponics every year. They make a great jam wineberries btw
