>gross income: 7000 a month>after tax income: 4000 a monthAmericans pay European level taxes but with a sub-Saharan Africa standard of living
>>533942811Good thing you can make as much money as you want do whatever you want in America. Having money is a choice most people dont have free will so they just work for the basics
>>533942986It's always the brokest losers saying this shit
>>533942986this is literally not the case, you are restricted by the finite hours in a week and your employer's willingness to not be a nigger and let you leave after 8 hours instead of making you stay an extra half hour to "fill the mandatory unpaid 15 minute breaks".
>>533942811Cry me a river you limp wristed faggot. You are experiencing inflation and taxation? I was born in the inflation and taxation, I was molded by it
>>533942811>>gross income: 7000 a month>>after tax income: 4000 a month>Americans pay European level taxes but with a sub-Saharan Africa standard of living>>>No, the majority of Euros don't make 4k monthly, they make like 700 to 1200 euros.
>>533943943(They also can't find jobs, unless they go north)
>>533942811the solution to your wagie problems:>join first-world military>claim that folding underwear on day 4 of basic training caused you to become bipolar>leave>profitasian mil scammer stephen stan clemente lives in massillon ohio usa
>>533943943>>533943971yeah but the govt gives them govt housing govt healthcare and govt funded education, they are so superior in their stockholm sydrome nanny state military industrial complex without any actual security and total delusion
>Gross income: 1300 EUR a month>After tax income: The same because it's from tax-free welfare
>>533944085In america you would pay taxes on that
>>533944059>yeah but the govt gives them govt housing govt healthcare and govt funded educationNothing is free. The government doesn't give shit to them. It's all inefficient and full of migrants.Now. America wouldn't have to pay as much taxes if they didn't have this huge military and sent money to Israel, this is a fact. Your 7k would stay almost untouched.
Earning 4k USD monthly you could just save up and buy land, really cheap land, it doesn't matter if it's in the middle of bumfuck. You can build your own homestead and never have to work for others.
>>533942811I make almost $7k after taxes and pre-tax deductions, but got 3 kids so I still feel fucking broke.
>>533944440>$7k after taxesHow much do you save monthly?
>>533943943This. Americans are crybaby faggot cucks
>>533944438i am rent burdened renting a tiny apartment here on that wage. America has fallen
>>533944486About $1000
>>533944513someone earning 1200 euros a month in romania or whatever has a way higher standard of living than someone earning 4k a month in california.
>>533942811It's because you subsidize the European standard of living through military spending.It's because you fund the coffers of thirdies living illegally here domestically and abroad.It's because your currency is going through year on year devaluation because of our service based import economy.There's nothing you can do about it but cry and seethe.Well, other than leave...
>>533944632>About $1000Considering you have 3 kids, it's not bad at all.>>533944545>i am rent burdened renting a tiny apartment here on that wage. America has fallenI understand that rent has gone up a lot in America. And that the cost of living is huge around job, but trust me, the rest of the world is not better off at all. There must have a few strategies to get by and save up money, here in Brazil I can eat a lot of meat every day because I only buy stuff when it's on discount, (and no, it's not close to expiring). I wish you luck though, there must be some ways to save at least a few bucks or make more money.>>533944513>This. Americans are crybaby faggot cucksI guess it's normal to compare ourselves with others, the neighbor's grass is always greener.
>>533942986Leave it to some jewish nigger golem to promote JewMerica because it isn’t ‘I must scream, but I have no mouth’ levels of fucked up.
>>533944928It's not bad, it's just shitty knowing my dad made half of what I make 20 years ago and my quality of life isn't at all better.
>>533942811This fuckup is of a more recent making but yes, anyone but the richest have slipped down in the USA.Wealth redistribution, government debt and reduction of services (also some infrastructure "debt" and other concealed shit you will still have to pay for one way or the other), many middle men and fees and high interest rates where it hurts the plebs.Europe also isn't entirely unaffected though. It's just the worst of both worlds in the USA for the masses.
I only make 3700 a month after taxes and that's Canadian money so like... not even 2000 in real money. I would slaughter everyone in this thread for the chance to make 4000 USD a month. I'd live like a fucking king, Luxury soup every night.
>>533942811>complaining about earning 7k a month when there are people living off cashapp transfers from their friendsLmao you don't know how bad it is for some people.
>>533944889>It's because you subsidize the European standard of living through military spending.Bullshit. There was already no one around the EU stronger than the EU, even if it wasn't 'ideally' prepared for offensive warfare.And the high US military budget was mostly not spent on Europe, but Afghanistan and had other NATO members also pay for it, having invoked NATO's defense clause the only time in its history.Also for Zumwalt class destroyers that certainly aren't designed for an European war and so on.
>>533942811Much of France doesn't even have AC
>>533945398american summers are much more brutal than european summers so they don't really need AC except maybe 1 week out of the year
>>533944055That guy sounds based. Being manic looks like fun
>>533942811Well yeah, endless jew wars aren't cheap you know.
>>533943943Things cost less in Europe because jews don't run things there like here
>>533945145> And you have to watch millions of Indians scam your technical professions> And your country is significantly more brown to the point that you are a minority in cities where your father was part of an overwhelming majority> And jewish masonic degeneracy is in full swing out in the open which you are expected to tolerate> And you live in a technocratic slave state with nonstop surveillance> And due to illegitimate wealth earned through fiat money creation, significantly more wealthy people are borderline retardedYour father had it on easy mode. America is a brown third world shithole that luckily we won’t see beyond this century.
>>533945296Skill issue. Enjoy your programs while the last gasp of a middle class continues to subsidize your living. I agree the capital class is to blame but someone making 7k/month is carrying more of a tax burdan than most. The 7-10k/month range is where taxes make you wish you worked a low skill job. Enough of a tax burden where even though the pay check still looks plentiful a significant portion of your after tax wage is still eaten up by necessities that your quality of life did not increase substantially enough to work a job with any sort of consequence. If you weren't living off neetbux you'd understand the feeling.
>>533945519Sad but true, we have fucking streetshitters running for local offices in Indiana of all places.
>>533945268the rent for a typical 1 bedroom here is more than 2k a month. 4k a month is basically poverty and should qualify you for welfare but the government never adjusted tax brackets to account for actual inflation rate
>>533943943>majority of Euros don't make like 700 to 1200 euroThe median salary in Poland is 1700 euros, and we are among the five poorest countries in the EU. In order to find people making 700-1200 you have to go to war-torn, non-EU countries such as Serbia or Ukraine. Where did this favela intellectual come up with such numbers?
>>533942811Then why is the whole world risking everything to be in America?HUH??
>>5339453962% is too much if a GDP investment for NATO members in Europe. They would rather spend it on importing more migrants.Tell me scholar, what has the EU done to protect international trade? Are we going to ignore all of 1941-1971 cold war era American military hedgemony? Are we going to forget supporting the UK in "defending" thier control of the Falkland islands? Are we going to forget Vietnam and Korea? Last I checked Vietnam was a French issue, Isreal was a UK issue and to a lesser extent France, and Korea was a US issue.Our ancestors pissed away surplus from a booming manufacturing economy to protect the interests of Europe. Metaphorically putting out the fires of Europes decolonization efforts. The EU can't see a resolution through a vote without being mired by criticism irrelevant fly over nation states who never had a dog in the fight to begin with. What strength has the EU shown outside of it's ability to show suicidal empathy. Name one conflict ended by the EU that demonstrates the strength of the organization. I'll be here waiting.
>>533945699>the government never adjusted tax brackets to account for actual inflation ratethey're already mostly broke from the municipal level up with debt, infrastructure debt etc. at every level and asking the tax payer to fix this is beyond unpopular because they also have too many costs and no reserves (except the very rich who know how to play the system)it's bad and you needed some economic calm and good leaders to start to fix this
>>533943308>>533943264>>533942986Why is every brown urkel so chopped and ugly? Is that why they are so jealous of us?
>>533946212the UK fought the Falklands War basically alone>2% is too much if a GDP investment for NATO members in EuropeTrump negotiated for more now, but yes sub-2% was actually enough for their own defense need given the threat. It was also agreed on policy before. Some countries had pledged to go towards 2% by 2024 or w/e, sure, others didn't, everyone was fine with that.Russia switching the nation to spending everything disposable on a war and Trump's demands changed this stance, that doesn't mean that before it the other sum was inadequate for defense.>Our ancestors pissed away surplus from a booming manufacturing economy to protect the interests of Europe. Metaphorically putting out the fires of Europes decolonization efforts. More like you seized the moment to make profits and gain power.
>>533945699>the rent for a typical 1 bedroom here is more than 2k a month.nigga I pay 2800 a month for a studio basement
>>533946623Why? Sleep in a car or tent instead?
>>533946578You didn't name a single conflict that the EU ended. The silence is loud with this one.The EU is a security consumer not an organization capable of projecting power.Europe got a 12 billion dollar foreign aid package to restabilize it's manufacturing base from the USA in 1948. Does that sound like someone using the opportunity as a power grab or someone attempting to build an alliance. When the Soviet Union was expanding none of these sovereign western nations had any sort of paying the security toll. Once their colonial condlicts were all swept up they shifted to be more defense minded, yes. There is still a maintenance cost. Their trade lanes, intelligence infrastructure, weapons R&D all carry a cost. As for profits? Ther are none. There's no security tax, no subsidy payed by Europe directly. They pay us for our old toys so to speak but all of that profit is realized through private companies. Private companies who primarily make their profits from government contracts funded by... The American taxpayer.Adversarial nations who care about aggression do not sleep on their laurels at 1.2%. Instead they offshored security cost to the ally that rebuilt them so they could socialize their economy. It worked! In the short term. It has had a real impact on the American tax payer. To an extent it was our father's and our father's father's fault. That doesn't it didn't happen that way.
>>533947379>Does that sound like someone using the opportunity as a power grab Yes? Duh. This policy only came after the USA wanted a strategy to more cheaply fend off the Soviet Union both militarily and from European markets which were worth a *lot* more than 12 billion anyhow.I'm not saying that some US congress/senate people didn't also like being nice at the time, but it passed because it had so many advantages and was the cheaper option.Also don't forget that before that, it was essentially "loot the fuck out of conquered Europe" for anyhow more than 12 billion in technology and stuff. Shit, the USA looted UK technology too (/ didn't keep their side of the bargain in technology sharing agreements etc).It was stopped when they correctly realized that the Soviet Union might just take all disgruntled nations... take Europe if this continues.
>>533942811So your take-home is 4000/mo and your rent is 2000/mo. Where is the other 2000 a month going?
>>533942986>Good thing you can make as much money as you want do whatever you want in America.haha, no
>>533947918>2000 a month going?Student loans
>>533945514>Things cost less in EuropeLmao
>>533948191Sobsob, yes
>>533945514>Things cost less in EuropeAmerican education on display
>>533942811You're implying that you pay 43% effective tax rate on an 80k salary? You're either blatantly lying or really confused (because you're stupid)
>>533947744No, not at all, but sure let's consider it the best option for American power and profits. Just as a fun little thought exercise. Say hypothetically America did not create a transatlantic alliance with nations in western Europe and decided to take our ball and go home so to speak. You're arguing that America looted and stole more than 12 billion in technology and "stuff." In this instance you're saying that there was a debt to be repaid. Let's say it wasn't. European manufacturing hubs are still blown to smithereens and they take they fall one by one under the influence of the Soviet Union. Former colonies violently decolonize as western powers such as west Germany, then France, then Spain, and perhaps the UK all become vassel states of the Soviet Union. A nuclear arms race still occurs as the Soviet Union continues to expand but this time America has 1/4 the territory to worry about defending. America's manufacturing economy thrives in a field with serious lack of competition as the Soviet Union employs its command economy across its new territories with the same disastrous efficiency leading to its eventual fall in the 80s because the Soviet's didn't "lose" because they had less missles they lost because their governance had serious corruption issues that led to an economic collapse.Does this sound like a better deal for Europe? Also what 12 billion was stolen I'm genuinely quite curious. If you're talking about operation paperclip that same brain drain would happen either way. What you're calling soft power I'm calling undeserved benevolence. In this scenario America would be in much better shape today in my opinion. No duty to defend a continent halfway around the globe and simultaneously, no duty to protect the same trade lanes that led to the reshoring of American jobs. Win win in my eyes.
>>533947744America didn't steal shit from Europe.Europe has always had a bad habit of taking out loans and not paying them back. Just as it does now, Europe has a massive amount of debt on the books, but is more evenly spread out. Before the onset of ww2 Europe amd more specifically Germany was in a massive debt spiral largely to the U.S.In other worlds, America didn't "loot" shit from Europe or Germany. America just seized german assets to pay off the debt Germany owed, and didn't let Germany even have a government for another 80 some years.
>>533948665Federal state local income taxes, sales taxes, property taxes etc. Government takes a loy more than 43% desu
>>533949887First of all, they dont. Secondly, you dont include sales and property tax in after-tax income calculation. Dumbass
>>533943943>No, the majority of Euros don't make 4k monthly, they make like 700 to 1200 euros.They make that weekly. Also to note people work earning this much 35hrs a week.
>>533942986spiritually indian post
>>533946196people fell for the american dream meme
>>533942811i live on soc security 1400 a month. if I can do it you can do it.
>>533942811Well, if we use those taxes on making our cities better, that money would also make the lives of nonwhite people better, and we cant have that.Better dump it all on Palantir surveillance tech and AI datacenters, and missiles for Israel.
>>533952117>Well, if we use those taxes on making our cities better>cities>muh programsAdd it to the list.
>>533952211Another billion to Israel then!
>>533952117Because non-white people are inherently oppressed by urban decay. Is that your presupposition? Cities need to be abolished. They're wasteful remnants of the dead manufacturing economy. The labor force that exists now inner city are primarily low skill service workers, adult day care jobs for suburban commuters, and welfare junkies (literal and figurative.) Even if manufacturing were reshored due to modern urban planning old manufacturing hubs like Pittsburgh likely wouldn't see a revival. Middling and small urban centers would receive the reshoring boon. Corperate HQs and market centers are the sole reason of the modern city to exist in America. The fact that you support this solely on the ground of bettering people's lives on solely immutable characteristics is a reflection of the institutional racism you claim to be fighting. Please keep your cognitive dissonance off this board.
>>533952281Oivey the goyim are complaining about Gibraltar again.
>>533942811No degree>Gross: 15k/mo>After tax: 10k/moMove somewhere without income tax and work on yourself dingus.
>>533952569I read what you wrote and I'm seeing another 2 billion to Israel AND bailouts for banks.
>>5339433081. Your 15 minute breaks are paid, by law. 2. Just don't take them and leave 30 mins early.3. Also skip lunch and leave exactly 7 hours and 30 mins from start time.
>>533942811>sub-Saharan Africa standard of livingNo.
>>533942811I'm at 5300 a month after taxes. It's comfy, but it isn't great when you consider interest rates. I'm not doing 6% interest on a rotting boomer cardboard box. Fuck the housing market in the ass and total boomer death.
>>533944723>in california.Maybe you should stop voting democrat.
What do?
>>533942811Get married and have kids, now you're making 6500 a month.
>>533952860All the things you wrote are wrong, the HR required me to stay 8 and a half hours because of the productivity software. You are a boomer, you don't have a job, stop coming to /pol/ and posting boomer shit.
1,600 a month.1,600 after taxes.It's hard making triple what I need to live, I really should stop working 4 days a week and move down to 2 or 3 but I just can't help it, people keep giving me projects.
>>533942811most people here make 10 dollars a month are you humble bragging
>>533944440what are you buying that's so expensive?I net 5k a month and save 3k of it
>>533952976Age? Keep saving.
>>533952772I personally would prefer American grid and highway infrastructure projects to renew and build a more interconnected union. Ideally dump money into a slush contracted out to stoke localized competition in energy distribution and highway maintenance that is in desperate need of competition. I wouldn't necessarily cut military R&D but look for more avenues to bring the commercializable technological leaps for public benefit. I also hate the surveillance state. I can't control where the money goes. I'm not advocating for feeding open mouths with empty hands.
Those who bless Israel will be blesses. Reminder that it's 354 days until taxes are due. Please ensure your blessings are paid.
>>53395306432 i have a 430k injury pension because i lost an eyeball and i wanna buy a house with my parents because care homes are demonic Iunno if you witnessed elderly dying infront of you but its awful
>>533942811I get something between $4K and $5K per month in NEETbux. No taxes on that, either. I want to move to a thirdie country so some servants can take care of me (I have depression).
>>533953025Get a real job. I spend two hours at the bar every day on the payroll thinking about my next steps at work.
>>533953214>430k injury pension because i lost an eyeballDamn, that's rough. I don't think you can buy a home outright with that, but you can put 20% down for a mortgage and if you can get another job then that would work. Wear an eye patch like a badass idk.
>>533953436Cause I assume you can't get it all at once and need some of that for living expenses.
>>533942811>sub-Saharan Africa standard of livingIf you actually believe this just because we don't have universal healthcare or something, actually go to sub-Saharan Africa and them compare it to here.
>>533953114>I personally would prefer American grid and highway infrastructure projects to renew and build a more interconnected union.That will literally never happened because taxes being used to invest back into the community will be shot down because that's "communism".
>>533953436Due to jewish canadian magic plus a beyond nepo mortgage cause my uncs and aunts are demonic brokers Its all good ereBasically going to drop 90% on a house and the mortgage is a kickback to the senpaiMy older brother will never be able to buy a house and.i have to lose and eyeball to get one
>>533952977Im incel
>>533942811Wagie makes 1400 dollars a month and pays no tax. Stop larping as successful.
>>533954455I really make 4k a month after theft but it's in california so it is like 1400 a month in flyoverland
