The Iranian oil crisis has given the world a taste of what's not too far ahead: what the fuck do we do once we DO run out of the stuff?And what about other finite resources such as helium? How long can we keep this up for?
>>533945866Gas is $9 in California already. I hope y'all can afford $95 gas trips
>>533945866Ever heard of synthetic motor oil?
>>533945931Ever heard of plastic oil bottles? >While the term "synthetic" implies it is completely man-made, it is more accurate to say that synthetic oil is chemically engineered from base materials that are usually derived from crude oil or natural gas.
>>533945866These things won't ever run out. What will happen is that the easier sources will run down, and it will be more expensive to produce a unit of a given resource. At some price point, alternate sources become viable, and if there's still a good demand, there may be new extraction technology that makes new reserves viable. This is what's already happened with shale oil and deepwater wells. If this does not keep up with demand, price will continue to rise until a competing technology becomes favorable, at which point the economy will shift to that. Even then, there will be oil (or whatever) available for niche uses.
>>533945866The only thing that can happen: collapse of modern globalized society and return to smaller, localized societies.Buckminster Fuller's concept of an energy slave is very useful for this. Currently, we use roughly 40 billion barrels of oil every year. 1 barrel of oil is roughly 10 years of human labor in energetic equivalents, but in practice it's more like 5 due to energy losses.This means modern society, a world of 8 billion people, in which probably 2 billion or so of them live lives of luxury, is silently and secretly maintained through the labor of 200 billion annual energy slaves in the form of oil. And this isnt even counting energy slaves from other hydrocarbons like gas and coal, which would put us closer to 500 billion energy slaves every year.What happens when you take away 500 billion slaves? It's simple. The former class of masters, the modern human, are masters no longer. They return to simpler lives.This transitional process will not be evenly distributed, will take decades, and likely will not be positive.
>>533945928I think we'll be able to coast off for a while here, due to our oil composition. Price highs are cancer though.>>533945931Feels temporary. I think nuclear will be the way.
>>533945866I feel if gas prices get to an unreasonable amount in america, people will riot and prices will go down.
>>533945866We can’t run out of oil. It’s a natural resource that is constantly replenished in the earths crust. Oil is abiotic.
Petrol comes from dead plant and microorganism matter. There's been a supply of that for millions of years. We're good on gasoline.
Solar exponential increase in capacity to the point solar->methane becomes viable.Back in 2023 solar doubled, theoretically solar could double every year and replace fossil fuels for electricity completely. Transport will take longer.
>>533945866By the time we run out, non nigger or brown people will have figured out matter energy conversion.
oil never runs dry. forms in both biotic and abiotic environments
>>533946615We are clearly using it far faster than it is formed, otherwise there would be oil seas all over the place.
>>533945866Oil is as abundant as salt water anon.
>>533946921No we are not. You're completely wrong about that.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSff0pwc1Xc
baby oil
>>533945928white ppl can, hope everyone else cant
>>533946921Why are Brits so retarded about gasoline and cars in general?
>>533945866Why do you think that the elite are pushing for people to have more and more nigglets, spic and spans and PoopJeets? and less white bebe?They want to create a high demand.Why do you think those Scientists were killed? They were on to a discovery of either-Cold Fusion-Zero Point Energy-Gernerating a Warp FieldThis will lead to the complete deconstruction of the monatary system as we know it nigga!Why do you think the governtment sends money to all these shithole countries to fight bubonic plague? It would be muich cheaper and simpler just to ban immigrant from coming here and if anyone goes there they have to give up the passport because you cannot come back and give us some nigger disease from the 1800's. and also they should have just left them to die from the covidity, there are too many jeets alive, they need to be wiped out.Urainian and Russians are the same RACE of people where the fuk is all that mnoney going?This is like saying afrikans and Somali have nothing in common, they are both Niggers.Since I was a KID, there were tv adds for those STARVING afrikcan kids.. WTF I am in my 40s now these niggers cant even feed themselves yet? NIGGER WTF?LET THEM DIE OUT FOR BEING AN INFERIOR RACE
>>533945866well it's likely not dino goo and replenishes at a far greater rate than they let onif not there is still more than enough to last 100s of years including expansion sothey just like milking the cowsalso what's the alternative? electric? lolmad max seems much better than 1984
>>533946921>every year for last 50 years WERE RUNNING OUT OF OIL OMG >somehow consume 100 gorillion barrels of oil per day and Saudi fields never run out I know you bongs have little real education but the crust is more vast than you are capable of understanding
>>533945866"Peak Oil" concept died in the 80s. The confirmed oil reserves of the world have *increased* for the last half century, and every time the price goes up geologists go and locate more of the shit. We're sitting on oceans of the stuff, this whole planet is set to tutorial mode difficulty.We are further from peak oil TODAY than we thought we were in the 70s.
>>533945866Earth's resources rightfully belong to whites. White people will power their lives. You brown shits can live like cave men, as you always have. It is the natural order.
>>533945866We milk Greta
>>533945866>weIn the short term people who aren't America or Russia send their treasure to America or Russia.If you mean in a very long term sense and oil is totally gone, well oil is for more than just energy so civilization would be in trouble. Maybe technology would advance so humanity would have enough energy and could also synthesize replacement molecules, or discover alternatives. Maybe humanity would have reached the stars by then.A more immediate concern would be influential limits to growth enjoyers panicking and quietly coming up with a way to reduce the surplus population. An extended long weekend of the pillow for everyone they don't care for, or for their notional descendants to make it more "ethical". Totally unrelated but did anyone ever check out the Modernanon claims?
>>533945866it will never run out. we have technology now.we can literally create oil out of air and energy.it's just expensive. and we're about halfway to it being affordable now.
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>>533946921Oil is replenished much quicker than you might think. The more carbon in the atmosphere means the oceans absorb more which gets filtered through the earths crust and turned into what we know as oil. On average, each barrel taken out gets replenished within a decade. Some estimates even have it in the months category.
>>533947613>They were on to a discovery of eitherOr found the answer, and there was no need for them anymore.A few people came up with parents for cars that run on water, the oil companies bought the patents then the people went missing or shot themselves in the back of the head twice.
>>533945866Oil is constantly being made through geologic pressure. We have more oil now than at any time in history with new deposits being discovered often. JD Rockefeller started the "Oil is scarce" meme to keep the price high and it has worked up until recently.
>>533945866Running out isn't the problem. When the surplus energy declines (energy per barrel - energy to extract each barrel), things will become unavoidably worse each year, every year without reduction in an even steeper reduction in demand.The age of abundance is over forever. NOW COMES THE LONG NIGHT
>>533946038You literally can turn plastic into gasoline, it's a known process you can do in your backyard. Heavily polluting, and only gives you shitty gasoline that can't be used in any modern vehicle. You'd have to design an engine to work around it, or refine it enough to actually work in cars.
>>533946747>>533949271Oil in abiotic environments never forms large reservoirs so is almost never economic to exploit.>>533948943We literally just need more solar panels. Produce that shit when power is cheap and overproduced, cut production when it's cloudy, turn it off at night for maintenance. Peak Oil is a Malthusian lie from the 70s promoted by the Rockefellers and Club of Rome.
>>533950847Biodiesel works even better. All that sneed oil we dump in our food should be used in our fuel tanks.
>>533945866Thankfully we prepared for this with solar, wind, and nuclear. Oh we didn't, and the current president cut funding to everything but the oil industry CEOs' paychecks? Guess we're fucked.
>>533949271>The more carbon in the atmosphere means the oceans absorb more which gets filtered through the earths crust and turned into what we know as oil. On average, each barrel taken out gets replenished within a decade. Some estimates even have it in the months category.If this were true, atmospheric carbon dioxide wouldn't be increasing over months or decades.
>>533946615>>533946747With the lie about "fossil fuels" and the reality of abiotic hydrocarbons being chemical stores of solar and planetary energies accounted for, it remains that global consumption of hydrocarbons is faster than the planet can renew them.The replenishment rate of geologically isolated petroleum, from where lava plus stone meets water and methane, is nearing a fraction of daily consumption.
>>533949777>NOW COMES THE LONG NIGHTThe sun is still shining with more than ten trillion times the amount of power humanity uses. If petrochemicals are needed (for plastics or chemical feedstock, say), they can be made with energy derived from other sources.
>>533951068>Malthusian lieBefore European colonialism, the total non-European population was capped around 200 million, most of which was already based on proto-European agricultural practices. Before the Green Revolution and Haber-Bosch process, the global population was capped around 3 billion.Today, plant crops depend on synthetic agrichemicals, such as nitrogen fertilizer. For example, a catalytic reaction is used to create ammonia and nitric acid, which are combined to make ammonium nitrate. The key ingredient is hydrogen, and the only cheap source of hydrogen is decomposed natural gas. Natural gas has to be drilled, which requires the supply chain to make drills, pumps, storage tanks, trucks, ships, pipelines, etc. All of these synthetic interventions depend on reconstituted finite resources that are made from fractal parts throughout the world, thus a global supply chain without which none of these things and >95% of the population cannot exist today. Now the Earth's landscape and its oceans are almost entirely contaminated, and the amount of biomass and wildlife loss (incl. overfishing & bycatch) and desertification cannot be stopped unless billions of people die as soon as yesterday. Don't believe me? Go to Asia, Africa, LATAM and see the contaminate of the Earth first hand. It's physically impossible to go on like this unless you want to degenerate yourself to the level of a nigger and subsist in your own filth before mass death finishes you off.
>>533945866If oil is created by plant matter under pressure, why not just put plant matter under pressure and make it in a lab? Seems to have worked for lab diamonds. Problam solved, chuds.
>>533952608Oops, looks like they already did that, don't know why all these goyim are fighting for Israel.https://www.smithsonianmag.com/innovation/scientists-turn-algae-into-crude-oil-in-less-than-an-hour-180948282/
>>533952608That works, and has been done. It's called thermal depolymerization. It's just not cost-effective as a replacement for petroleum in general, though it has niches like disposing of offal from meat processing plants.
>>533945866There are thousands of suppressed patents for high efficiency technology that only have to see the light of day. The government can flip a switch and every energy issue would be solved.
People talk about oil shortages in relation to power, which is definitely important. But I also wonder about plastic. We use so much plastic for everything. Even things you don't think of as plastic are plastic. What would things look like if we just had no more plastic?
>>533945866>So, what happens once we run out?Road Warriors Mad Max world. But it won't run out for at least 1500-2000 years at current useage rates anon.
>>533952608Making it in a lab is a thousand times more expensive and is energy-negative. But yes we can make it if we need to.Oil is cheaper than milk and will be for decades. We're on tutorial-level difficulty right now, we're speculating on what happens if and when that changes.
>>533945866A whole lot of people die and the few left settle into a much lower energy-returned-on-energy-invested standard of living.
