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Red or Blue?
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>>533962512
I’m gay and fat
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>>533962512
the sole blue pusher in these threads is an idf agent trying to bait and start shit on purpose
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>>533962512
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>>533962512
Inb4 blue retards saying they would hunt down red button pushers and kill them.
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The problem with this experiment is that it is a total scam: it' s basically "press red to live , press blue to suicide " with a fake moral dilemma ( the 50 % thing ) ; it' s a midwit filter : dumb dudes press red because they want to live , high iq dudes realize it's a scam and chose red , midwit fall for the false moral dilemma and choose blue
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1.retards exist.
2.They'll press the blue button.
3.you have two choice:
I)save yourself only
Or
II)save both yourself and the retards.
But the latter option is very risky.
So the question is that do you want to take risk and save the retards or be selfish and save yourself only?
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>>533962712
>Or
>II)save both yourself and the retards.
OR kill yourself and the retards
odds are you'd be saving nobody and killing yourself
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>>533962712
There's not enough retarded people in the world to ensure blue victory, though. Pressing blue is just killing yourself along with the tards.
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>red
win in both situations
>blue
win in one situation
die in the other

there is zero reason to push blue
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It’s funny because in the previous thread I voted red, said as much, and lost all interest in the continued discourse and arguments. There’s nothing left for me to say. It just makes sense.

Yet the blue’s continue to go on and on about arguments/defenses/hypotheticals within hypotheticals to justify their choice and demonize others.

As a red voter im already bored of this meme and look forward to it being dead in a few weeks.
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>>533962792
We're still on an upward trajectory of bluepresser seethe and revenge fantasies, though.
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>>533962769
>There's not enough retarded people in the world to ensure blue victory, though.
Idk, do you remember covid?
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>>533962851
Yes, most people acted very mean and selfish during covid.
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>>533962792
Bluefags are Low trust retards. Can't trust their fellow man to make the right choice so they guilt you into thinking redfags are selfish. They cant fathom personal responsibility for themselves or others
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>>533962512
>Red or Blue?
Don't get the vaccine or Get the vaccine to protect everyone?
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>>533962512
This is exactly how it should have been explained.
but I kind of like the scenario where we're able to get rid of more of the browns with no reading comprehension.
this one only kill off a few people with suicidal empathy.
it at least ensures the cull happens tho.
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>>533962887
Most of them lined up to take an experimental drug for a cold with a 99% survival rate, because thier TV told them it might save grandma. All those vaxie retards would probably vote blue, just out of stupidity.
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>>533962951
Basically.

Red = I'm not taking the vax and you shouldn't either
Blue = VAXXMAXX OR U KILLING GRAMMA
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>juden pedosrein was astroturfed
>burned out
>jiang was astroturfed
>burned out
>a fucking button is being astroturfed
I'm tired, boss.
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>>533962976
Well, good riddance to those fags.
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>>533962512
>queue 300 replies about bluefags telling you why they are morally superior, and that they will torture you to death for having picked red after they won
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>>533962777
Checked and /thread
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>>533962955
We have already had this discussion. Females are the suicidal empaths, so when they're all dead you will have sex with other men which is pretty gay.
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>>533962792
I'd press red due to world demographics. I think the chances of blue winning are tiny.
That said, a society in which blue wins is better than one in which it doesn't. People pressing blue are putting themselves in danger for the sake of others, it's a clear expression of a high trust society, nobody presses blue for themselves, they do it for others, whereas people press red for themselves, in hopes that everybody does.
Adding to that, a world in which red wins just lost a fuckload of people willing to risk themselves for others. This would evidently warp culture towards crime, cheating, and all other manner of evil.

Frankly, western civilization is founded on stuff like pressing the blue button. Caring about morality is a first world trait.
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>IF YOU VOTE BLUE YOU'RE A VAXOID LEFTY DUMBASS KEK YOURE SO FUCKING DUMB VOTING TO KILL YOURSELF IDIOT
You ok redoids?
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How would blue voters react, if red voters spent millions of dollars on a campaign in the third world and sold the game like this:

>there is an evil God forcing you to play a game
>press red and you are fine, you can go home now
>press blue and your nature changes, you are now participating in a Global Death Game
>nothing you do after pressing blue matters anymore
>if more than half of everyone in the entire world voted blue, you survive
>if not, then you die immediately

How much would they seethe, when reading this and realize they made a huge mistake, because you just need to formulate the question a bit differently WITHOUT changing any of the rules to get the vast majority of people to vote red?
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>>533963086
Women do not sacrifice themselves, ever. They only have suicidal empathy when they think it won't affect them, not in situations where they're staring death in the face.
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>>533963172
You wouldn't really have to reformulate the question even. When a person actually would be faced with the real choice in the kill booth or whatever, they'd pick the red button regardless. It's only when there's a complete absence of real consequences, like a twatter poll, where people would virtue signal by pressing blue.
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>>533963242
How is voting for your lefty mother to die zero consequence
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>>533963242
You underestimate the suicidal amount of empathy of a large substrata of the European population, who have been corrupted by a thousand years of Christianity. They WILL press blue, if you formulate it in a manner, which implies you are saving people, instead of being forced to participate in a Death Game by a powerful God, Alien or tyrannical government. They will only press red, if you scare them.

>>533963292
I can convince my mother of any political position. I am pretty sure I can convince her to vote red.
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>>533963292
You're not vooting for anyone to die by pressing red. Bluefags choose to kill themselves by pressing the blue button and gambling on that izzat jeets, scammer chingchongs and the rest will act out of pathological altruism (which they won't.)
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>>533962512
>/pol/cels discover the power of framing

>90% chance of survival
>10% chance of dying
These will receive different responses even though they're logically equivalent up to framing.

So framing is real and has real consequences. It doesn't matter if the red button is the correct choice in the abstract if most people will fall for the prosocial framing of the blue button in the original tweet. Then your calculation of the optimal choice needs to factor in the "irrational" framing-dependent response of a large number of people.
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>>533963086
not true when things come down to it. have you seen the video where women wont even die for their husbands?
for example once a female is nearly raped by thirdies they will never advocate for third world migrants again.
women will only destroy things so long as they are isolated from the damage they're doing. the moment you put them in the firing line reality hits them.
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>>533963336
Humanity is being held hostage and forced into a game show vote for its survival and you think you get to phone a friend?
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>>533963374
100% of women would press the blue button... in a hypothetical public scenario where their choice is judged by others.

100% of women would press the red button in private, if that guarantees her life is saved and there are no further consequences to it.
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>>533962512
Blue won.
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>>533963384
There is no stated timelimit. Which means blue voters have to create a problem, which doesn't exist and try to convince the entire world's population to vote blue. The red button might as well not exist. It practically only exists to end the game, because it would signal everyone has voted or rejected to vote.

>>533963451
No, they didn't. You have to convince HALF OF THE WORLD to vote blue. Not half of everyone, who participated in a twitter poll. You have a long way to go, if you want to make it out of here alive, buddy. Good luck!

Meanwhile me and the boys will distribute images like this to the third world and get them to vote red:
>>533962512
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>>533963477
What are you on about literally the only arguement to vote blue is
>everyone will live
which as a collective, is good.
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>>533963451
Congrats. Red won as well.
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>>533963523
But since people who would never press blue, like izzat jeets, chingchongs and women are the majority of people on the planet, it's impossible that the blue vote becomes the majority. So pushing the blue button is just pushing a suicide button. Everyone who pushes blue will die regardless of what you do, so whatever you push has no bearing on how many people die.
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you retards have no better to do huh
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>>533963617
What does that say about you and what you're doing?
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>>533962709
>The problem with this experiment is that it is a total scam: it' s basically "press red to live , press blue to suicide " with a fake moral dilemma ( the 50 % thing )
Pretty sure that is the whole point of the experiment.
Take a situation with an objectively correct choice, but word it in such a way that people think it's a prison dilemma, to bait them into ignoring the obvious and springing the trap.
There is no dilemma here at all, because red is not buying their own safety at anyone's expense. There is no limitation to how many people can press red, it makes no difference how long it takes you to decide and so on and so forth.
The consequences that blue would suffer are entirely self-inflicted, because they decided to enter a game against red, but red isn't even playing the game with them, so they just took a risk for no reason at all.

It's just herd animal behavior, where the wording makes them think that it's a prison dilemma and blue is the morally correct choice, so obviously everyone will pick blue and thus they should pick blue too, because that makes them part of the group.

For them it's not a question of "you live or you die", for them it's a question of "am I part of the winning group or not?" (""winning"").

Only because it's hypothetical though. Make it an actual experiment with real consequences (not necessarily death) and you'll have 95% red pushers immediately.

>log into your bank account
>get presented with two actions
>if you pick red, nothing happens to you personally
>if you pick blue and less than 50% also picked blue, your account gets reset to zero (or the debt gets doubled if you're in the red)
No one would pick blue in that scenario.
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>>533963578
>it's impossible that the blue vote becomes the majority
So you red fags keep insisting but the vote says other.
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>>533963523
Sorry
NO VAXXED
NOT PRESSING BLUE
NOT SUCCUMING TO SUICIDAL EMPATHY
SURVIVAL OF MY BLOODLINE

Hahahaha, not sorry actually
In fact I am deliberately pressing red to kill all blues, the West will be a paradise the instance we get rid of blue voters
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>>533963703
Nah, we did a voot yesterday. I think we all can agree that people are more honest on /pol/ than virtue signaling sois over on twatter.
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>>533963477
Blue literally won. They got more than half the vote, and more than red.
>Meanwhile me and the boys will distribute images like this to the third world and get them to vote red:
So in order to get people to press red, you're going to deliberately mislead them as to what the results of their actions will be? I don't know, sounds pretty jewish to me.

>>533963528
We all won! But if you press red, you live with the understanding that you committed a selfish act and reduced human life to a calculus.

>>533963578
China would overwhelmingly press blue, as would every high-trust society on earth.
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>>533963371
pretty much the whole point of the experiment imo
you can make people believe that picking suicide is the morally correct choice by framing it the right way.
which also the best experiment you could run to prove that democracy with a universal voting right is guaranteed to be subverted by malicious actors before long. because the malicious actors are way more likely to use misleading framing and draw people to their side.
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>>533963709
>I am deliberately pressing red to kill all blues
But you said voting red does nothing
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>>533963758
>we redid the vote with 1/500th the sample size but this is more accurate somehow.
lol
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>>533963822
it does.
the blue is about to kill himself.
if you do nothing, he dies.
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>>533963523
you have zero reading comprehension if that is your take away from it.
because everyone lives if they press red, too.
blue does not offer any advantage that red doesn't already provide, it just introduces the risk of death to the game.
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I press blue
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>>533962512
the concept is flawed and it's just a midwit filter
>don't kill yourself
>put your life at risk to MAYBE save a few retards
every low iq thirdie subhuman will press red
every selfish person will press red
everyone capable of basic risk assertion will press red
every human that has a modicum self preservation instinct will press red
only midwits, holier than thou fags and people who make appeal to (((virtue and morality))) will press blue
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>>533963758
>we
lol nice slip up
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>>533962512
You guys are pinning a general for the chimp/bonobo psychopath/empathy toilet-bound hanuko japanese school child variation on the prisoner's dilemma?
To root out 'who cant meme' or 'whos our guys'
Okay just checking. Have fun :D

these thought experiments are Rand-corp-glow-coded

>>533962585
Holy shit! Someone finally solved it!!!
I can't wait to read the whitepaper on this elegant proof.
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>>533963772
>Blue literally won.
Blue won in about the most favorable subsection of the population it could be in. And it didn't even win by a wide margin.
You mean to tell me you'd expect people in Africa, India or China to vote blue? How delusional are you?
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>>533963772
China is communist so they would vote red. Everything a communist does is an act of naked self-interest hidden behind a thinly veiled facade. Mao Zedong, Stalin, etc are all clicking red.
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>>533963842
there are no poeple with identities on pol to virtue signal in the comments after and promote whatever faggot shit they do for a living.
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>>533963772
>China would overwhelmingly press blue, as would every high-trust society on earth.
If someone falls over in the street in China, other chingchongs just walk right past them to not get involved. In China it's a huge honor loss to help strangers at your own expense, you are considered deviant and retarded if you do. Chinese people are very similar to Indians in this regard, where izzat dictates that you should scam other people to your benefit and avoid getting scammed by them, that's the ultimate goal in life.

Only complete deviant Chinese people would press the blue button, 99.9% of them would press the red. Same with Indians. That's 60% of the world's population just there.
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>>533963876
>if you do nothing, he dies.
Good.
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>>533962529
FPBP
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>>533963882
It is far more likely 51% vote blue than 100% vote red. For damage reduction wake, blue os the only option. For selfish self preservation, red is the answer. You cannot pretend to be blind to the consequences of both choices.
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>>533963950
This board is a shadow of itself crawling with probably more glowies, bots and jeets than actual anons. That vote is worthless.
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>>533963997
But soi twatter isn't, kek?
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>>533963973
You can't control other people. You can only control yourself. If you vote red you guarantee your survival. If you vote blue you risk death in vain, for the small group of people too stupid to guarantee their own survival.
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>>533963973
>It is far more likely 51% vote blue than 100% vote red
it isn't, there is no reason for anyone to press blue, there is no real incentive to press blue
>red: everyone lives
>blue: everyone who pressed blue will die unless it is over 50%
there is nothing obligating you to press blue, there is no reward, no incentive, nothing
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>>533963973
>It is far more likely 51% vote blue than 100% vote red.
0.5% is way more than 0.0000001%, yes. Abysmal odds nonetheless.
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>>533963973
the most likely outcome is a sub-50 blue vote thoughever
it's not damage reduction to vote blue, you're just adding another death. By voting blue you're making it worse, and incentivizing other people to also join in.
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>>533963758
This is a really beautiful mechanism.
I sincerely appreciate the mechanics.
The implications, and the fact this has been effectively used on people for thousands of years on the other hand, is just really tragic.
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>>533963932
China has an intense sense of collective identity, 90% of them would vote blue, because they would see voting blue as a moral imperative. All of East Asia would do the same. Stinkjeets would mostly vote red because they're totally self-involved, but I don't know about Africa. It would probably be 50/50.

>>533963947
Why would they vote red? Because of the color

>>533963950
>We didn't like the result of the vote so we conducted additional votes until we got the result we wanted.
lmao, even. I just conducted a vote of my own, and Blue got 100% of the votes. The sample size was me and my mom, but my method is better because most people on /pol/ are feds and indians.

>>533963951
That's not even remotely the same, but if it is, just think about it for a minute: you're approaching the problem with the same mindset as a jeet. Is that something to brag about?
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>>533963973
the majority of people would vote red no questions asked.
>but muh twitter poll
your twitter poll had no consequences and people just claimed they'd vote blue to virtue signal and show everyone what a great person they are.
in reality, blue is absolutely guaranteed to die, and anyone who picks blue is retarded.
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>>533963437
The question is what a woman would do if pressing the red button saved her life but also exposed her to a public scenario where her choice is judged by others. :^)
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>>533964220
If people really cared about others they should educate them that taking useless and pointless risks is always wrong and not to take these risks to compensate the stupidity of others.
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>>533964289
>China has an intense sense of collective identity
china would collectively vote red
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>>533964314
kek, this.
as long as it is anonymous, there is zero chance of blue winning because there is simply no loss scenario for red.
make the vote public and now voting red actually has a cost associated
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>>533964289
>That's not even remotely the same, but if it is
It is. The whole Chinese culture revolves purely around one-upping your fellow man. There is no honor or face loss from scamming someone else, or fucking them over. The only way to lose face is if you're the one being scammed. That's why the Chinese state is so incredibly repressive. Everyone in China knows what Chinese people are like, so they accept this dystopian authoritarian utter repressive government to save them from themselves. Every single Chinese people would press red, unless you had some commisar standing behind him with a gun forcing him to press blue.

>ust think about it for a minute: you're approaching the problem with the same mindset as a jeet. Is that something to brag about?
If jeets eat food to not starve to death, should you stop eating food so you won't be like a jeet?
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Would any red button pressers change their mind if the following condition were made:
>If the majority of button presses are blue, everyone who pressed the red button will have red hands for the rest of their life

In other words, it will be known to the rest of society how you voted.
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>>533964314
all reds are exposed to the public scenario by being alive at the end
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this is perhaps one of the stupidest hypotheticals I've ever heard of
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>>533964314
Probably still red for most of them, but more blues by all means.
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>>533964306
>The majority of people would vote red
>But the fact that the majority of people voted blue doesn't mean anything
redcels can't stop coping. At this point it's not even a logical argument anymore, you're just masturbating over the thought of people you disagree with dying.

>>533964389
Nigga I've been to china, you have no idea what you're talking about.
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>>533964393
no, because >>533964400
by far the most likely outcome is that reds live and blues die
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>>533964454
>the majority of people voted blue
On a twatter virtue signaling poll without any real consequences.
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>>533964289
>China has an intense sense of collective identity, 90% of them would vote blue, because they would see voting blue as a moral imperative. All of East Asia would do the same.
No they don't. Asia believes in personal accountability at the family level instead of the welfare state. They don't do gibs, charity etc
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>>533964069
>You can't control other people. You can only control yourself. If you vote red you guarantee your survival. If you vote blue you risk death in vain, for the small group of people too stupid to guarantee their own survival.
I'm gonna press the blue button tonight.
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>>533964531
kek, this.
the whole reason China is pulling ahead of us is because they would not vote blue
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>>533964501
>That vote doesn't count because...it just DOESN'T, OK??
cope cope cope cope. You poll had 0 consequences too, right? What makes it better, other than the fact you got the result you wanted?
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>>533963790
>democracy with a universal voting right is guaranteed to be subverted by malicious actors before long. because the malicious actors are way more likely to use misleading framing and draw people to their side.

Edward Bernays discovered this literally a century ago, and democracy has more or less been a sham ever since. Public manipulation experts have become deeply embedded in the political system, one of Obama's advisors even wrote a book on "benign" manipulation (=nudging). Everything's fake and gay and astroturfed, and the problem is that the discovery and normalisation of mass manipulation strats is like Pandora's box, there's really no way back.
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>>533964579
>You poll had 0 consequences too, right? What makes it better, other than the fact you got the result you wanted?
What makes it better is that it's on /pol/ where people tend to be more honest about their real feelings and thoughts, instead of on twatter where people get instabanned for sharing their real feelings and thoughts.
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>>533964454
>But the fact that the majority of people voted blue doesn't mean anything
It means it's twitter and they can't read. when you look at the comments it's all in reds favor.
the blue votes are from people too stupid to understand what the buttons do, who just voted and dipped. .
the user also did not did not frame the question properly meaning only intelligent people will understand that blue is the suicide gambling button.
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The only way this can be a dilemma is if there was some sort of prize for surviving with blue
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>>533964314
>The question is what a woman would do if pressing the red button saved her life but also exposed her to a public scenario where her choice is judged by others. :^)
What would a woman do if her child asks her what button to push? "Press the blue one, honey, that way there's a chance you die!"
Would your mother tell you to press the blue button?
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>>533964630
So the people on twitter were afraid of getting banned because of their participation in a poll, and this changed the results from a 9:1 in Red's favor to a 2:1 in Blue's favor?

>>533964635
Reds keep couching it as an intelligence question, but it's a test to see if you're selfish or not. Do you save yourself, or do you save others? I imagine the comments in the twitter thread -like here- are full of midwits with poor theory of mind.
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>>533962512
Theres also a different perspective to this, people would vote differently if they'd actually seen other people really die in previous polls. As a hypothetical its much easier to say "blue"
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>>533962709
>problem
that's the genius of it
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>>533964367
>make the vote public and now voting red actually has a cost associated
No cost if red wins, though.
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>>533964607
yeah, this experiment makes it even clearer than usually though imo, because of how retarded the choices are
>do you want to press the button where you're safe no matter what and no one will ever find out you did?
>or do you want to press the button where you die if you can't get 50% of the world to join you, for absolutely zero benefit over the first button?
if framing can get people to pick the second option, then democracy is dead
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>>533963973
Are you going to trust billions of Indians and Chinese to vote blue to save you? China has a centralized government. They will vote red if asked to, especially with good propaganda to stick it to the West, who has foolishly decided to participate in a death game.

Would you trust aliens to vote blue? Aliens you have no knowledge of? Without knowing what exactly constitutes intelligent life, how low the game might go there?

You (Europeans) are voting and then your decision is completely out of your hand and third-worlders decide over your fate. Why do that? Why kill yourself like this for hypothetical babies, who for some reason get to participate, retarded people or other suicidal altruists?

vote red, nothing happens, don't just into the wood chipper, which only breaks down, if fed with >50% of the entire world
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>>533964393
>>If the majority of button presses are blue, everyone who pressed the red button will have red hands for the rest of their life
That's so retarded.
>Press blue = Risk of dying
>Press red = Risk of having your hands look red.
Oh, wow, what a difficult choice.
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>>533964863
true I guess
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>>533964760
>The only way this can be a dilemma is if there was some sort of prize for surviving with blue
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>>533964367
This would only cause Europeans to kill themselves more easily. India and China can completely overvote us with no way of our vote (if we chose blue) to have any impact on the result.

You are insane, if you put your faith into nebulous third-worlders, far removed from your family, country and civilization

imagine voting blue (suicidal empathy) to save your hypothetical baby just to be overvoted by 1 billion africans, 1 billion indians and 1 billion chinese
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>>533964922
for blue pushers, it's a social compliance question I guess.
it's not a question of it you make the correct choice or not, but if you are willing to kill yourself for the (perceived) benefit of the group.
they are basically ants.
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>>533964849
>or do you save others?
but the others pressed the suicide button. so no I'm not gonna save a retard who wants to die.
I'll just let them die. in fact you inflict a problem on your self for no reason then expect another to risk their lives to save you. you're a selfish piece of shit and the world would be better without you.
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>>533965030
I'd vote red no matter what because it's the objectively correct choice and I don't care for cucking out and doing something I'd consider to be wrong just because the group demands it.
The only thing that lies down that path is regret when it eventually fucks you over, and you know that you knew better, but were too weak to do it.
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>>533963617
this post places you below everyone you think you're mocking but you'll never understand why
>>533964579
>because...it just DOESN'T
he explained exactly why it doesn't
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>>533962709
It’s actually “press red to live or press blue to (maybe) save people who didnt think this through properly, but you will most likely die with them.”
In a real life situation far more people would press red than blue
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>>533962512
If you vote red you are too much of a brainlet to think outside your mind. You can't comprehend third order consequences.
The thing is that even retards push blue. Every time this poll is made blue wins with a smashing majority. Red voters really don't understand humans, they are atomized individuals. Basically lolbertarians.
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>>533964607
Plato already pointed this out, we are dumber than people that lived 2000 years ago .
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>>533964094
>there is no real incentive to press blue
most people haven't ascended like us, and still stuck on the social nature of man.
They say shit like "No man is an island." or "It takes a village to raise a child."
People like us, our lawyers speak for us, and say things like "He seemed surprisingly comfortable in solitary, like genuinely calm and relaxed."
This question is the preemptive nuclear attack vs M.A.D. question.
I'm gonna press the red button tonight.
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>>533965233
Here's your prize!
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>>533962512
Irl, the red button is not nothing happens though.
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>>533965202
Once again that blue bottoners are in a suicidal cult
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you all are autistic to continually make threads about this holy shit why are you even debating this
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>>533965345
*Once again proving
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>>533963617
>said he while browsing 4chan
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>>533965038
>If you don't look out for yourself, you're selfish
Boomer mindset. "I got mine, these dumb kids get whatever's left over." The "suicide button" rhetoric is so stupidly overblown, it's a perfect sign that you're not as smart as you think you are. Blues don't "want to die" they trust that the majority of humanity sees an inherent value in human life, and will vote blue to protect human life, even at a risk to themselves. This is what I'm talking about with poor theory of mind.

>>533965183
His reasoning was "because they were virtue signaling." Is there any proof of that besides that he wants it to be so?

>>533965233
This. In one thread, these same people will tell you how jews are evil because they atomized societies, but then come here brag about how atomized they are, and call anyone with any sense of civic duty or group identity "suicidal." The absolute state of this fucking board is atrocious.
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>>533963172
The third world would all vote red regardless. Self preservation and gratification is their top priority. You can see that just by looking at their countries.
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diehard red buttoner
blue button would win
99% of people are retarded
at least 80% would press blue for no reason
dumb people can't do math
picking red is correct but it has nothing to do with realistic distributions of results it's just the right button to press
you're not jaded enough if you think most wouldn't press the blue button
all low iq people are hypersocialized and conditioned to think for the collective
still pressing red even if votes were public and all 8.2 billion people before me voted blue
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>>533962512
If you pressed blue because you're retarded and wanted to virtue signal, that's a you problem.
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>>533965635
It's actually midwit that are hypersocialized , low iq people would just think abuot their immidiate survival.
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I saw an argument from a blue yesterday that went something like this
>all of the niggers would press red so if you have to live in a world full of red buttoners then that means you have to live around niggers
It probably wasn't genuine because someone who presses blue is many times more likely to be a liar or disingenuous than someone openly stating they pressed red, but it's flawed for a couple reasons in any case.

1. Everyone that presses red is guaranteed to live, so even if blue wins there's still niggers

2. The people donating tons of food to Africa creating artificial population booms would press blue

There's probably more i'm missing
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Lol conservatives on suicide watch after this meme dropped.
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>>533965636
If I press red and everyone else presses blue I still survive.
Theres literally zero reason to press blue unless you actively want to roll the dice on dying.
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>>533962512
Kill virtue signaling blue faggots with this one simple trick
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>>533963172
>because you just need to formulate the question a bit differently
That's cheating though, the whole point of pressing blue would be to save the people tricked, and you're reducing the amount of those people artificially.
You could just as easily label the buttons to make people more likely to pick Blue.
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>>533965398
>blue to protect human life
low IQ human life means less than nothing. getting in the way of natural selection is bad.
if all the Low IQs and Suicidal Empathy retards died it would solve the immigration problem over night and our countries would be saved.
there are no downsides to pressing red.
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>>533965398
>His reasoning was "because they were virtue signaling."
He also said "with no real consequence" and you know he did, but you're an intellectual coward so you pretend like you didn't see it. Survival instincts kick in when people actually believe their life might be at stake. It would be a very stressful decision to actually consider pressing that button in a real example. It can't be compared to a 0 stress poll on X. I don't know exactly how much the results would change if it were real, but I'm pretty confident that it wouldn't be the same.
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>>533962955
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>>533963172
>you just need to formulate the question a bit differently
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>>533965986
well "people who are easily tricked" are the reason our children are being raped by muslim and niggers invaders.
Why would you ever risk your lives to save them? they're destroying all that's good in your country.
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>>533962712
>save retards
I don't want to save retards.
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I just pick the blue button because I don't want to live with retards that would just kill anyone that doesn't agree with them.
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>>533965398
>and call anyone with any sense of civic duty or group identity "suicidal."
Civic duty does not involve everyone putting themselves in dangerous situations that require the intervention of others to prevent their deaths. That sort of thing ruins societies in short order.
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>>533964876
Oh those subhumans animals i guess I should go be a zogbot and sign up for the pending war you that you glowies are laying the groundwork for with forced memes like this huh
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>>533966073
The correct analogy would be having a choice between sucking a red gorilla penis that does nothing and a blue gorilla penis that will give you aids unless more than 50% of the people choose to suck the blue gorilla penis
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>>533966056
>low IQ human life means less than nothing
I think it does. Your low IQ life means something to me, for instance.

>>533966066
I did though. First you claim that another poll with a smaller sample size proves the larger poll wrong, but then the goalposts were moved, saying that the former poll was never valid because there were no consequences, despite neither have any consequences. Furthermore, how can you know that someone's vote will change if the consequences are real? I think that I wouldn't be. What makes you think that it would, other than that you want it to be so?
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>>533963371
>It doesn't matter if the red button is the correct choice
What a remarkable specimen
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Blue button pressers are genuinely hilarious. It's like watching toddlers try and reason.
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>>533966107
>they're destroying all that's good in your country.
A counterpoint is that the West has basically been built on the principles of working together in the prisoners dilemma. Take for example parties in governments deciding on anti-corruption principles they will follow. They can see a greater good of avoiding corruption that would theoretically advantage them.
If you look at shitholes like India, they have "jugaad". It's good to steal, to be selfish, to grift and scam. They can't see how it rots their society. In Africa they will loot anything the state creates.
If I was going to modify it, I'd ask what you'd press in an all white society.
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>>533962512
If you press Blue, you will think you are super awesome and can call others nazis.

But if >50% push Blue then everyone is raped by niggers and dies.

> Real life simulator
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>>533966273
>First you claim that another poll with a smaller sample size proves the larger poll wrong
Are you hallucinating? When did I say that? I'm only supporting the idea that the X poll likely wouldn't mirror a real version of this test with real consequence
>how can you know that someone's vote will change if the consequences are real
survival instincts coupled with the threat of death
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>>533966073
Imagine there's a gorilla penis on the wall.
If more than 50% of people suck the gorilla penis on the wall, everyone lives. If more than 50% of people DON'T suck the gorilla penis on the wall, only the people who sucked the gorilla penis will die.
Are you sucking the gorilla penis?
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>>533962512
I'm all in on red, nothing ever happens.
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>>533964849
>So the people on twitter were afraid of getting banned because of their participation in a poll, and this changed the results from a 9:1 in Red's favor to a 2:1 in Blue's favor?
This is our favorite kind of over-simplification, and I agree with it's use in all circumstances.
That said, you are 100% on the actual path here.
The self-censorship people engage in when their name, or reputation, is attached to what they say; when they have a specific audience they are performing for, people self-censor and greatly reduces or nullifies the usefulness of the data you collect from observing them in that rvironment.
That said, the same bias applies to /pol (with it's innumerable layer of meta-incentives)

I would posit if you asked this question in the 90's, it would been a lot more blue.

Now that population has spiked exponentially over 3-4 generations, and humanity's physical space to range is reduced, everyone is competing for resources, but our ethics and morals, traditionally (and by design) lag very far behind the 'facts on the ground' for lack of a better phrase. The social ethics we fabricated, spread, and nurtured to keep order, are breaking down against the realities of everyday situations.

To your point, the environment dictates the presentation of opinion or perception to others. Exbounding on that, and coming to the hypothesis, 'Very few possibly none of us really make independent decisions, or have fixed opinions (beliefs, codes, stances, philosophies) that aren't made maleable by the social environment.' which is kind of fucking depressing.

The question is how, practically, with the resources available, do we break the tendency to self-censorship that we've really embraced since (somewhere around 2010-2015) facebook's dopamine cycles changed our relationships with opinions (our own and others)? How do we get back to say, the Occupy Wall St. era in terms of social norm?

Sorry, I'm drunk as fuck.
I need to stop thumb-typing.
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>>533966403
>A counterpoint is that the West has basically been built on the principles of working together in the prisoners dilemma.
This isn't the prisoner's dilemma. There's an actual point in working together for mutual benefit. Jumping into the wood chipper is different, and people failing to recognize the difference in these different sorts of situations is a big problem.
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>>533966375
I'm gonna press the blue button tonight.
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>>533966556
Disgusting people always think of disgusting hypotheticals.
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>>533966066
checked and i'm pressing the red button tonight.
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>>533966151
That's what I said this last night's version of this thread
(=´∀`)人(´∀`=)

I'm gonna press the blue button tonight.
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>>533966556
I'm going to not suck the gorilla penis tonight.
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>>533962529
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Blue button = save the kids

It's the only way
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>>533965726
>low iq people would just think abuot their immidiate survival
yep
that's the cool thing about intelligent decisions; you don't need to be intelligent to make one
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>>533962512
>Death gamble
Don't put it like that, I'm an addict and want to press blue just because it's fun to bet.
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Every nigger pressed the red button while Whites chose the blue one. Now there is only nigger on earth.
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>>533966403
>the West has basically been built on the principles of working together in the prisoners dilemma
It blows my mind that you can understand this yet you don't get that the endgame prisoner's dilemma is still two self interested parties. If you took two people that independently arrived at the winning prisoner's dilemma strategy and gave them this question, they're both going to laugh and press red. Afterward they're going to look at each other after and ask "what idiot came up with that one?"
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>>533962769
>There's not enough retarded people in the world
imagine believing this
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>>533964393
Oh no, people will know I'm smart just by looking at my hands.
Blues are retarded oversocialised subhumans
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>>533962769
>There's not enough retarded people in the world
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>>533962851
There's nothing on the line with the red button though. If pressing the red button meant you might get fired and wind up homeless then it'd be a more apt comparison.
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>>533962512
>>533962545
>>533962577
>all three try to shift the agency of the deaths on the people who press the "nobody dies" button instead of the "people die" button
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>>533964849
Reds keep couching it as an intelligence question because you clearly don't understand the hypothetical. You're "saving" people running willingly into an empty burning building by doing so yourself, hoping your bodies will smother the flames. The obvious choice was always to just not run into the burning building.
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>>533968038
It's an ethics test but your theory of mind is too underdeveloped to understand why.
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I'm the blue guy everyone was debating yesterday, sadly the thread 404d and I didn't have a chance to respond to everyone
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>>533966164
Res voters won't die for zog. Blue voters will go die for zog and scream at reds for not dying for zog as well. If everyone enlists to die for zog, less of us will die!
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>>533968170
I'm anti-ZOG and am not shaming people to press red
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>>533964876
This is literally the best argument for red I've seen.
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>>533968201
Who press red*
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>>533963973
This is correct. Red is moral cowardice disguised as ethical. At least accept that you're only doing it out of self-preservation instead of pretending otherwise.
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>>533968094
>theory of mind is too underdeveloped to understand why
Holy Dunning-Kruger. Tf does the theory of mind have to do with this
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>>533964454
>people choosing the selfish sociopath option act like it
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Blue = high trust society
Red = low trust society

Simple as.
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>>533962709
If IQ follows a normal curve and midwits are average IQ, then most people are midwits and will press blue, saving them all
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>>533968248
We said countless times that red is the self-preserving option
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Red button kills all people who push shopping carts back. It's a "delete Japanese + white people and live in a world of selfish indians/ chinese" people
If I press blue then that means if most people have hope in humanity I live. If red wins, I get to log out on a world that is now 100% selfish people.
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>>533966151
You're either "getting killed" by them or having to live with them, so congrats. You chose the option where you lose in every eventuality.
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>>533968403
The point i was trying to make is that the moral dilemma is fake and gay
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>>533968248
>Red is moral cowardice disguised as ethical. At least accept that you're only doing it out of self-preservation instead of pretending otherwise.

That's the thing right there. Most of reds don't give a shit about your false ethics. We remember when the retards used their fake morals during the Covid bullshit, claiming that taking the vax was the moral choice. The most psychopatic bastards in the world always had the word "empathy" in their mouths.

Fuck you and your faggot morals. Didn't take it, would push the red button, KYS.
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>>533968248
Stfu retard. I'd still press red even it meant killing me but also taking out a good chunk of useless goyslaves like you. So get your kike ass back to plebbit.
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>>533968432
Wrong because I push the shopping carts back every time. You're just retarded and suicidal.
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>>533968094
If I jump into a death machine of my free will knowing it will kill me unless someone else jumps down to save me, leaving themselves in the predicament instead, am I a good person? Am I a good person if I try to convince or trick someone into saving me from my self-inflicted predicament at the risk of their own life? You're a psychopath.
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>>533968539
I'm blue and unvaxxed
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>>533968572
Okay. I'm white and push shopping carts back too.
I'm pushing blue.
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>>533968539
This covid thing is the cringiest shit. This is nothing like the covid situation at all.
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>>533968432
Fucking retard. Whites would only survive if they push the red button.
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>>533968545
>is called a goy and a kike in the same post
nani the fuck
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>>533968754
It's exactly the same discourse.
>Push the blue one to save lives
>Get the vax to save lives

Fuck that.
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>>533962512
We see a similar case of this in real life when a mass murderer attacks a lot of people.
Observers often think "if everyone gang up to stop the shooter, the casualties would be way lower".
But in reality, nobody tries that, when the "hero" does, he's alone, he will often momentarily stop the attacker, all he needs is for one more person to grab the weapon, but nobody does, the "hero" will fight alone.
Keep that in mind when you try to be the hero, you will almost always do it alone.
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>>533968641
I don't litter, I don't steal, I take shopping carts back, I don't commit crime, I don't inconvenience my fellow man. You are a retarded psychopath demanding others risk their lives to save you from your self-inflicted predicament that you chose for no other reason than to try to guilt people to do the same. You are in a suicide cult. You are a parasite who is in a white society doing kind of the right thing for the wrong reason.
I do what I do because I am a responsible human being with care for others. You are a left-leaning parasite who only does the bare minimum in public to benefit from others acting responsibly. You are a drowning man who screams for help and drowns those who try for just one more breath of air.
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>>533968094
>give me infinite free money and do not prosecute me for any crime i did or will do
>why?
>you just don't understaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand!!!!!!! you're EEEEEEEEVIL
every leftist ever

leftism=gambling (if not with your money/life, with others'), it's that simple
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What is the obsession with bringing leftism and covid into this?
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>>533963117
This guy gets it
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>>533968798
Whether the vax hurt you or not had nothing to do with how many people took it.
At this point it's obvious the vax didn't work to save others but a 50%+1 blue vote saves everyone, guaranteed
There's no group of selfish sociopaths who invented a new disease to kill vax-havers
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>>533966151
The vast majority of people pressing red don't care about you at all, it's just about making an intelligent decision for them. Because you're a narcissist you think it's about you.
>>533968028
red is the nobody dies button
the possibility of death only exists once the blue button is pressed
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What's more likely:
>100% press red
Or
>50%+1 press blue
Answer honestly
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>>533968889
they don't know what an ambiguous proposition is.
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so lets see
>press Red, Red Wins: majority of people you know would die, you know it is your fault, you are left in broken jeet infested world with majority of virtues White people gone
>press Red, Blue Wins: You live but stigma remains, haunting you forever
>press Blue, Red Wins: you blissfully go away in an instant leaving Reds to their jeet hell
>press Blue, Blue wins: No downside, you get to hunt down and torture objectively evil Red scum

Easy Blue click for me chef
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>>533968985
The second one. But the fates of irresponsible people who gamble with their lives for no reason and then have the gall to demand I do so too to maybe save them are of no concern to me.
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>>533963117
All good points
Though, secret/private vs. public voting would make a huge difference on motives and results
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>>533963371
I'm a rational person and I understand completely why pressing red and getting everyone to press the red button is the logically correct choice
But I don't want all stupid pro-social people to die and wouldn't want to live in the aftermath of them all dying.
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>>533962512
I'm pressing the blue button.
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>>533968985
That's the thing. Fuck whatever everyone else is choosing. I'm not risking my life for no reason, so I push red.
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>>533963117
This is called: False consensus effect.
Katz and Allport in 1931, who found that students' estimates of cheating frequency were positively correlated with their own cheating behavior.
Basically if you the majority of people are low trust it means you are low trust yourself. Fastest way to know about someone is to ask how they feel about others.
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>>533969054
I'm not doing it for no reason, and I don't think pressing red is evil. I lean towards blue, but can understand red
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>>533968394
>Blue = high trust society
>Red = low trust society
>Simple as
This is a good point.
I'm gonna push the blue button tonight.
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>>533963117
>People pressing blue are putting themselves in danger for the sake of others
>it's a clear expression of a high trust society
those two thoughts are diametrically opposed
shows how little blue button pressers understand about the world around them and a microcosm of society as whole
you think you're being noble, but you're just doing it because you feel you need to be the savior of some people who probably don't care whether you had breakfast this morning
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>>533969143
I'm like ODD, so that pic doesn't apply to me. It also seems like most people in here picked red, while I'm still holding to blue.
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>>533969029
Your toddler comes to you and asks you what button he should push.

Would you tell him to push the blue button so there's a chance your kid would be killed?
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>>533963117
>western civilization is founded on stuff like pressing the blue button
It was born in Athens as a product of rational thought. Pressing red is the more rational choice.
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>>533968889
because the "blue button argument" is what leftists use to bamboozle everybody into accepting their "human rights" flavored cripple- and retard-exploitation i.e. getting the votes
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I realized the red/blue button allegory plays out perfectly in 28 weeks later.

Don and Alice are making a run for it, but Alice decides to split and go toward a dead end in the house in a vain attempt to save the boy. The boy was fucked and there was no way he was escaping his scenario, but Alice runs away from the escape route anyway and just ends up getting trapped along with the boy. Then she screams at Don and demands that he come over to them, even though this would do absolutely nothing to save the boy or Alice, and would just get all three of them killed. Don understands that doing so is futile and choses to stick to the escape route and keep running.

Don picked red and survived.
Alice picked blue and threw her life away for nothing but a false sense of altruism.

Bluefags think Don should have went back to die, even though doing so would save absolutely no one
RedGODS understand that there was nothing Don could have done to save them, so saving himself was the only valid choice
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>>533968394
Blue is low trust because you dont trust your fellow man to save themselves without savior complex niggers like you looking over everyone's shoulders to make sure they voted right. Its like libshits running cover for niggers because they cant be trusted to maintain society
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>>533969154
So in the scenario where it's just three people and you're the last one to push a button, and you have full knowledge that the first two people picked red, what are you pressing?
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Because bluefags love tacking on tons of extra hypotheticals to morally justify themselves, lets add an actually interesting one:

>Once everybody has initially voted, the results will be revealed
>After this reveal, everybody can choose if they would like to switch their vote

I ask all Blue's, if Red won the initial round: Would you still persist in your suicidal choice? Would you kick and scream and demand the Reds sacrifice themselves to save you? Or would you do the moral, reasonable thing, admit that you made a mistake, and switch to Red?
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>>533968394
threatening to commit suicide unless you put yourself in mortal danger too is not high trust behavior. It's psychotic abusive borderline personality disorder.

actual high trust societies pick red because they trust those around them to also pick red and for people to not try dragging everyone else around them down to hell for absolutely no reason.
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>>533969399
Red, because pressing blue would only result in definite suicide
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No loving parent would make their kids choose blue.
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>>533962512
This is about the vax, right?
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>>533969492
Same scenario but now you're the first one to press a button. The other two people will see what you pressed.
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>>533969449
>actual high trust societies pick red because they trust those around them to also pick red and for people to not try dragging everyone else around them down to hell for absolutely no reason.
Yep. Bluefags are jumping into the water to save someone from drowning while they themselves are drowning then blame everyone that didnt jump for their own stupidity when they die
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>>533969621
Now list all the categories of people that would be drowning please.
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>>533969578
That's a tough one. I think blue, because there's a chance that someone after me might pick blue. But on the other hand, I'm initiating blue, therefore forcing others to pick blue, putting the burden on them.
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>>533969412
> If I kill someone it means they are suicidal.
I don't think it would hold up in court.
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>>533969682
Every fag that pressed blue is drowning. You pressing blue doesn't save anyone. Everyone is magically saved from downing when half the population throw themselves into the water not form any direct action you took
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>>533962709
That's the false ending. The true question is if it is worth saving the people who missed the question, who can't read, who didn't understand it, who pressed it on accident, who are suicidal.
I am pressing le red because I have people that want and need me alive. But blue is a good choice too. I don't think either are objectively correct. It's ultimately just perfectly crafted engagement bait to make money and/or a psyop/test for psyops.
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>>533969706
??
which one?

You understand that if you're the last in line it's a no brainer to pick red if no one else has engaged in the blue option. Now you have the opportunity to set a precedent instead of operating in one.
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>>533970057
I said I think blue. That's the answer.
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>>533969258
But I did have breakfast this morning
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>>533970168
What did you have for breakfast
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>>533969852
>this hambeast is a 10 in america
Grim.
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>>533970163
You've started the death game for no reason other than "if I don't do it, someone else will"
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>>533968817
sounds like brazil alright
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>>533970186
Smoked salmon cream cheese sandwich
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>>533962512
So clearly someone made this thinking they were doing a sneaky analogy. So what is it actually about? The vax? Are we still not over that yet?
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>>533970304
Well, it just goes back to >>533968985
This is the reason why I'm picking blue. Whether I started it or not is second to the fact that someone will vote blue no matter the chronology.
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>>533970371
Considering the specific color combination of the buttons, I'm 99% sure it was supposed to be something political
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>>533970338
How would you rate it
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>>533962512
why is this a general now? haven't you retards wasted enough time on this/
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>>533962512
this has already been solved, no need to make a thread. I'll press blue because I don't want to take a 50% chance of my little sister dying
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>>533970046
>The true question is if it is worth saving the people who missed the question
It's not saving them, it's dying alongside them pointlessly.
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>>533970484
9/10, I love smoked salmon
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>>533970451
>someone will vote blue
not true when it's just 3 people.
Assume now that you're 2nd in line and the 1st pressed red. Still blue?
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i would fake as many red button pushes as possible to kill all the blue button pressers
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>>533970491
>I'll press blue because I don't want to take a 50% chance of my little sister dying
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>>533970451
>someone is bound to kill themselves so I should to
Kek that's how dumb you bluefags sound
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>>533970609
>not true when it's just 3 people.
How so? How do I know that for sure that the second person won't press blue for whatever reason?
If I'm second, and pick red, third would be suicidal to press blue, and should know to press red. I'd say I'm leaning red when I'm second. Leaning blue on first, and definite red on third.
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>>533962986
>Red = I'm not taking the vax and you shouldn't either
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>>533970488
>haven't you retards wasted enough time on this/

88

Laughing at retards is fun.
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>>533970937
Unvaxxed blue here, you are retarded.
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>>533962512
Well when you frame it that way the choice is obvious.
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>>533970907
It's not that I should kill myself. It's that I should add to the blue tally to increase the chance that everyone survives since some are bound to pick blue.
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>>533971054
>memeflaggot
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>>533970913
>I'd say I'm leaning red when I'm second. Leaning blue on first, and definite red on third.
FUCKING WHY HOLY SHIT YOU ARE A SUPREME FUCKING RETARD IF YOU CAN'T UNDERSTAND IT AFTER BEING EXPLAINED IN 100000000 DIFFERENT WAYS
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>>533971127
>since some are bound to pick blue
Proof?
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>>533971127
>increase the chance that everyone survives
YOU LITERALLY JUST INCREASE THE CHANCE EVERYBODY DOESN'T SURVIVE BY PICKING BLUE
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>>533970902
mostly children will die if red wins, blue prevents that. it's not that hard to understand
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>>533962545
>>533962512
You forgot the part where your boss makes you press the blue button or you are fired
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>>533971127
>It's that I should add to the blue tally

I must push blue because some retard will push blue so I must place myself in mortal danger for the chance of saving someone too stupid to save themselves.

Blue is pushed because blue is pushed.

Conga Line Suicide
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>>533971217
>b-but think of the CHILDREN anon
>you need to KILL yourself with them ANON
blue doesn't prevent it, that's the thing. IT'S NOT THAT HARD TO UNDERSTAND
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>>533971167
>Proof?

This thread.
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>>533971256
Just say "I'm pressing red because I'm a coward", it's easier.
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>>533971217
will you tell your child to press blue?
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>>533971144
What do you mean? I'll pick red if it's reasonable that red will be 100%. In other cases I'd pick blue since 50%+1 is more likely than 100%
>>533971167
That there are people who say that they would pick blue?
>>533971203
How?
>>533971256
Kind of yeah. It just doesn't seem reasonable to think that 100% of humans will pick red
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>>533971314
if you don't play russian roulette right now and put a loaded gun to your head and pull the trigger for absolutely no reason you're a coward
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>>533971314
Just say "I'm pressing blue because I'm a moron" it's easier
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>>533971314
You are the coward ,you want to force half the planet to risk their life so they can save your ass
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>>533962512
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>>533970937
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>>533971314
Here you go, anon.
Meme it for us and the archive.
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>>533962712
I'll save myself and pat myself on the back for reducing the number of retards in this world.
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>>533964289
>China has an intense sense of collective identity
They don't in the "we need to save retards" sort of way. They are collectivist in the "turn retards into fertilizer to feed more chinamen" kind of way.
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>>533971351
>How?
You only die if you pick blue, and the other two pick red. Death is only a result in scenarios where blue was pressed.
You are either trolling, or genuinely stupid.
>In other cases I'd pick blue since 50%+1 is more likely than 100%
pic related, would you also choose the red one because "more poison green ones"?
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>>533962512
I don't get it? There's no benefit for pressing blue so only suicidal people would do it. Normies are tarded but not that much.
How the fuck is this even a discussion. Is everyone here a bot or an indian?
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>>533970913
>How do I know that for sure that the second person won't press blue for whatever reason?
????????
You don't. You said someone will vote blue as in it's guaranteed which is the idea I rejected.

>I'd say I'm leaning red when I'm second. Leaning blue on first, and definite red on third
bro this is so insane. If you're 1st and you pick blue, you're demanding one other person join you if you're to live. If you're 2nd there's no difference, you're still demanding that one other person has to join you.


Two scenarios,
A. 1st red, 2nd blue, 3rd (You)
B. 1st red, 2nd red, 3rd (You)

which one would you prefer to be in?
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>>533966088
This button is a twist and a test. If you press the button, you WILL be the person that dies when the next person presses the button.
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>>533970168
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>>533971703
>Normies are tarded but not that much
oh yes they are
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>>533971647
>Death is only a result in scenarios where blue was pressed.

Exactly. The only way to introduce death as a possible outcome in this scenario is to push blue.

So, blue is pressed as an expression of suicidal empathy, or as the ultimate expression of out-group preference, because you a pressing blue for persons unknown.
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>>533962545
Blue pressers still have no actual rebuttal to this.
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>>533971229
>he didn't find a PDF of the CDC vax card, print it to card stock, and submit it to HR
I've been working at the hospital for 5 years now and still never took their science experiment serum
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>>533972023
Bro I just told them I wasn't getting it and they never brought it up again.
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>>533970913
>third would be suicidal to press blue
the first person to press blue is always suicidal, 1st, 2nd, or 3rd. That was the point
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>>533969146
>Fastest way to know about someone is to ask how they feel about others.
But...I hate literally everyone else on earth, except my friends and family, and myself.
Anyway. Red button. Blue pressers are evil, and retarded. There is zero negative consequence until someone presses blue.
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>>533971314
I don't even want to live that much. but I can suicide whenever I want. I'm not gonna give my life protecting some sub 56 IQ retards with no reading comprehension from themselves.
I press red hoping the blue retards will be culled from the population.
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>>533971747
That's OK. At least I'll leave a million dollars to my family. Plus, most of you think blue button wins, right? So the risk of other person killing me is really low, right?
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>>533971875
Its worse than that. Blue pressers are alone standing in front of an empty ocean and think to themselves "someone could be drowning right now". Statistically true. Then some all powerful god says that if half the population jumps in and starts drowning everyone drowning will be saved. You dont see anyone else jumping in to drown because the vote is private. You cant determine how many people are drowning. Bluefags believe thay drowning themselves is heroic and brave when its just retarded
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>>533962512
Did I miss a retarded thought experiment tweet that went viral? what are you niggers on about
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>>533971229
>your boss makes you press the blue button or you are fired
LOL, what a pussy.
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>>533972181
You can still press red to save yourself, I don't care
I'm still pressing blue
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>>533971647
Well it's not just blue being pressed in isolation causing the death. It's blue being pressed in a scenario where more people press red.
I'd choose green since 50%>10%
>>533971705
Ah, no, it's definitely logically possible that everyone presses red. I just don't think it's probable.
If I'm first, I don't know if the second person will press red or blue, if I'm second, I expect the third to press red if everyone previously pressed red.
A: I'd press blue to save 2
B: I'd press red to save myself
I'd be in either since I can guarantee the outcome in both. I don't know if I have a big preference for one or the other.
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>50% or more people press blue
>nothing happens
>50% or more people press red
>all blues due
>100% of people press red
>nothing happens
In every situation red is the option with fewer downsides for you personally
Pushing blue is just a pointless risk when the same thing can be accomplished if everybody pushes red
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>>533972023
>I've been working at the hospital for 5 years now

Worked as a paramedic from 2019 to now.
Know a bro at the hospital who does admin.
Me, my crew, and the crews of two other trucks got "vaccinated' at the same time while this guy was on shift. Must be true, as hospital records and the state health database says so.

Yes, you fucking retards, the ambulance crews that were saving your worthless asses during the lockdowns were Purebloods and none of us got sick.

Make of that what you will.
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>>533972181
I started asking normies about it, because I talk to a lot of them for work, and it's actually frightening how many go with the blue button. Almost always immediately, without thinking about the situation at all. It's weird seeing so many people with such an obviously flawed mindset.
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>>533972111
What else am I supposed to do if I'm first and don't know for sure if someone after me will vote blue or not regardless of my vote?
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>>533972275
>I'm still pressing blue
That's fine with us.
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>>533972275
be my guess. Redchads know that it won't be 100% red, even though in a rational world it would be. We understand that every day, there are people who end up killing themselves, whether it be suicide, accidental, reckless self-destructive behavior, etc. And that pressing blue is the same.
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>>533972159
What? The button presses arent related. I was just stating how that one worked.
However, I would wager most million dollar button pressers would also be blue button pressers because all blue button pressers are evil and retarded. Only by pressing the million dollar button does death come into play at all, just as pressing the blue button does.
The incentive is monetary instead of perceived good goy points, which arent real anyway.

>But what if just one person presses the blue button
Them they are retarded and evil, trying to force others to save them when they had no real reason to press the blue button.
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>>533972399
>>533972325
>>533972301
>>533972275
New thread?
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>>533972288
It's blue being pressed, period.
It's okay to admit you were wrong and change your mind.



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