It's actually scary, Russians have no idea about Poland. I've been playing DOTA 2 for a year or two, and when I speak English they're asking me why I don't speak Russian (cyrillic guild). I get bored of this and tell them they're not the only ones using cyrillic.Nine times out of ten, they respond "Oh, you're Polish". It's pretty weird how most of Poles here know everything about Russia, mostly plumbing statistic, while Russians don't even know what alphabet Poles use.
the average Pole only knows about pooptin, communism and alcoholism over thereof course the trolls over here know everything there is to know to set off the ruskeks
>>533973244Idk, from an observer standpoint you seem obsessed with them while they think of Poland like I think of, I dunno, South Korea or Hong Kong.
>>533973503No we don't. Nobody gives a shit about Russia. I only see retarded brown serbs over here obsessing with Russia and Poland, mostly standing in the line of defence of Russia and Putin, because muh orthodox brothers and other 3rd world-tier low IQ posts, i've also noticed on youtube. Get a fucking life and spend your time improving your corrupt balkan shiithole other than obsessing with a niche trivial things.
>>533973623>I only see retarded brown serbsBut I am a Russian on VPN, and we are in your walls.
>>533973156So russians aren't using normal alphabet? Shiieeet. What do they use, Swahili or what.
>>533973156Yeah, we live rent free in their minds for some reason
>>533973503A day in the life of the pole:>Wake up>Think about Russia>Take a fat shit and go downstairs to milk the cow in the living room while watching tv>It's a news segment on how poland is so much better than Russia >Go to work 10km away on foot>Get to work at the English embassy as a plumber>Bring up Russia in a conversation that's completely unrelated >Lunch time >Thermos full of buckwheat again>Wipe the shit off your phone screen because you couldn't help yourself but to make threads on pol about Russia all day instead of working >Received €5 for the day's work (wire transferred from Brussels)>GDP just went up by 2%>Get robbed at knife point on your way home by two Ukrainians >"Fucking Russians">Get home >Time to drink and shitpost about how much you hate Russia on pol again>Fall asleep with vomit on your lap and shit in your overalls>Do it all again the next day
>>533973156What the fuck are you talking about, Poland doesn't use Cyrillic
>>533974334
>>533974334Bro, you've posted this one >>533973244 like a few hundred times at this point. And its just a translated text from literally who on the internet. Get a life or something.
All white men under 35 are vidya, porn and anime addicts. The days of the tough soviet era Slavs are over. Everyone is soft and weak and now. Everyone is aimless depressed and bored.
>>533973156Bro, stop pretending you aren t russian. You are all USSR shitholes, you are russian for the rest of the world, nobody gives a shit about what tribe you are or how your village is called.
>>533974495Neither Poland or Serbia were part of the USSR you tard.
>>533974391When was the last time you blessed israel, my child?
>>533973904>"Yeah, we live rent free in their minds for some reason">"for some reason">"reason"
>>533974334I mean... You took a meme about you and then flipped it around and posted it 230 times. I didn't want to get into this as a completely neutral observer, but you're leading me to.>>533974495Yeah, it's weird that Poles armed Vietnam and invaded Czechoslovakia (we did neither) and all of a sudden I am a Russian bootlickers and they are anti-Russian terminators.
>>533974581>I got invaded a century ago>so now I can't shut up about itCome on... That's Indian tier behaviour
>>533973503>you seem obsessed with themGrok, who is the only country in the world celebrating independence from Poland while drunkenly proclaiming they live in Pole heads rent freerussians obession with being liked is very close to that of a 16.y.o. girl on her period
>>533974653>Yeah, it's weird that Poles armed Vietnam and invaded CzechoslovakiaCan't believe such a country was invited to NATO personally.
>>533974776>>I got invaded a century ago>>so now I can't shut up about itlmaogreat patriotic war? half your fucking state mythos is built on that invasion kek
>>533974581>urine>2014Roflmao, so how is 2 day anti terrorist operation going?
>>533974776>a century agoyou'd do it again in a heartbeat, be honest.
>>533974925It seems Poland and Russia are one and the same then, should be joined into one state so there could be less confusion.
>>533974445Is it false though? Poles have way higher quality of living that russians and it's not even close. All of this despite that Russia has 3x the population, almost infinite natural resources, natural barriers that protect it etc.On paper, Russia should be the richest country in europe but in reality it's way poorer than Poland kek
>>533974653>russian retard once again cant tell posters apartwhen are you retards going back?
>>533973720And should be telling that only some failed balkan state like Serbia allows you into their country.
>>533974925When was the last time you saw a Russian flag complain about Germany on here?
>>533974870Idk why you're defending them so hard. Polish and Russian divisions exercised together to kill your Opa just a short while ago. What if tomorrow they change their mind again?
>>533974964we are not the same you russian subhumanpic rel
>>533974925Yet I don't sperg out whenever I see a German flag or Germany is mentionedPicture it this way>some says USSR invading Poland was good>Poland upsetThat's normal>someone says anything about Russia>Poand gets upsetThat's not normal
>>533974445i didn't say i'm different, i specifically said>of course the trolls over here know everything there is to know to set off the ruskekswe're both shitposting here trying to rile the other side up, only we're not so disingenous and tsundere about all of this
>>533975277Why so angry though? Didn't they help you defeat the nazis? AFAIK it was a good team effort.
>>533975378>That's not normal
>>533975756nope you didnt help us you russian retard you just impoverished us like yourself
>>533975378Whenever taking to a pole you've got to realize they are all spiritually jeets. Then it all starts to make sense after that
>>533973156Russians and Poles secretly love each other, they'll never admit it though.
>>533974945I believe it ran into some obstacles after the opposite side announced a 3 day special military operation.
>>533974969>taking in a million ukrainian refugees and giving them free everything is GREAT for Poland GDP!Meanwhile the EU is still fining Poland for not meeting the nigger migrant quota
>>533976178Its mostly shills here from Poland.Real polacks dont trust any governments
>>533976506>As of late 2025/early 2026, Poland is not being fined for refusing to take in migrants under the EU's new migration pact, as it has been granted an exemption due to hosting a large number of Ukrainian refugees. While the EU pact includes a solidarity mechanism requiring either relocation or a fine of roughly €20,000 per refused person, Poland’s unique situation (including border pressure with Belarus) allows it to opt out without penalties.
>>533975107>Idk why you're defending them so hard.Grok, who is the only country in the world celebrating independence from Poland Just answer the question Milosh.
>>533976655>s it has been granted an exemption due to hosting a large number of Ukrainian refugees.yo pyotr can we do some 1:1 trading plz
>>533976655Fuck off faggot shillPoland and Hungary have been in court for years fighting those fines>The EU dindu nuffinThanks for proving who you work forIt sure as shit aint Poland
>>533976785>Poland and Hungary have been in court for years fighting those finesand we wonnot sure about hungaryseethe more russian retard>>533976698nooo no no no nonono noyou can come if you are white tho
>>533976893>you can come if you are white thoI am 1/8th Italian. But there is also some Slav. Love borscht. Once visited some polish region with weird plastic-like cheese in noodle form. Swampy area.
>>533976893So you knew all along Poland was fined by the EU but chose to lie about it Intersesting>muh russia vpnEat shit nafo troonThey are dragging you back to ukraine in chains soon. Enjoy your pierogies while you can pussy faggot ukraine draft dodger.
Now he wants you to believe that it's two different people who conveniently browse the exact same thread at the same time.
>>533973156well duhwe've had the pleasure of participating in euroasiatism so we know everything about themthey on the other hand have never had the opportunity to live in europe so they don't really know much about it>>533976178big if true
>>533977898>they on the other hand have never had the opportunity to live in europeRussia is European tho.
Poles and Russians should ally together and destroy their common ennemy.
>>533977986not even europe adjacent
>>533977986by what metric
>>53397833595% of their history is interaction with Europe. 5% is colonising backwaters and killing some Siberians.And honestly, if ancient Greece is Europe, so is Russia.
>play ranked Dota game with Russian mid>he's dying after a teamfight from veno poison>He already used tp, neither of us have any dispel or healing left>I deny him last second so enemy team doesn't get any gold/xp>Russian retard doesn't know about denying allies>Thinks I'm griefing and just killed him for no reason >Doesn't understand my English explanation > Sells all items to buy Divine Rapier and then feeds it to the enemyI'm never playing at 4am ever again. It's just Russians and Iranians, I can't tell who's worse. This was high archon btw
>>53397840995% of their history is trying to invade europe, that makes a difference
>>533978409>if ancient Greece is Europe, so is Russia.why?>95% of their history is interaction with Europe.Thats not really a metric for belonging to Europe?The best arguments are geographical, despite the majority of russian land not being on the European continent.
>>533978484>I'm never playing at 4am ever again. It's just Russians and IraniansIt's just Russians and Iranians anyways.Also, you shouldn't play non-cheese heroes. Other people are too stupid so you need to abuse the game to win.
>>533978484>high archonNo offense but 99% of people under ranked immortal are literally clueless about 90% of what the game is actually about. But yes: They tend to behave very bad when there is even a slight hint of conflict.
>>533978835>No offense but 99% of people under ranked immortalBelow rank 200.
>>533978928fair enough.in fact only the best dota player in the world has a rudimentary understanding of wtf is going on.and hes dogshit toobut whats with the ancient greece comparison, im curious as for the logic here.
>>533973156Russians don’t know shit about anything outside of russia, man. They are worse than americans. Poland for them is another planet and serbia is probably something from a cartoon.
>>533979135>but whats with the ancient greece comparison, im curious as for the logic here.The ancient world was centered around Greece, Persia, Mesopotamia, Egypt and Caanan. There was a bi-directional transfer of knowledge.Germans, Slavs, Latins and such who are most of Europe now were not in the same story.Greece could easily be associated with Europe through cultural heritage, however the heritage is not "pan-European". It's not shared, you and me have little to do with it.Contrary, Russia... Well, I don't know why one would argue Russia is not Europe. They're just a separate power structure in Europe, hence they deviate from the whole "pan-European" talk which is just a mental gymnastic performance anyways.
>>533973623See, you act like a disgusting little bitch, always projecting and hating because of your problems with Russia. I dislike Russia for its autocracy, anti-human system and corruption among other things, but Polish online behaviour really makes me dislike you as well, really just unfounded superiority complex and absolute pure hatred towards everything even slightly connected to Russia, even though cyrillic script and orthodoxy for example didn't originate there.
>>533979515+I don't even like Russian government (I don't personally care about ethnicity, do not interpret this liberally, I mean on day to day basis, so I absolutely have nothing for or against anyone just based on where they are from) I just wanted to make Poles mad. Agreed on all points.
>>533979419"pan european values" such as democracy, later enlightenment, later human rights. Russia did not partake in any of these transformations with Europe. In fact, I consider it a great argument as to why they are to be seen as something separate, and europe adjacent. Like türkiye or the overseas colonies before they became the USA.
>>533979419>Well, I don't know why one would argue Russia is not Europe.because 'being european' is purely conceptual and it's based on experiencing common history, living in similar material conditions, a common perception of one's place in the world and on all of these conditions russian society has always been firmly asiatica different approach to management, self perception, society structurehence for example russian civilization never built castles
Just play the fucking game stop talking about countries or whatever. Play your role and do you job. Stop baiting your own teammates into retarded verbal fights.
>>533973503>Putin threatens nuclear annihilation on weekly basis>why are Poles so obsessed with Russia?
>>533979807Russia is too rich for a regular european contries. They don’t have shit and survive only through trickery, theft and exploitation. Russia joining europe will have the same outcome as a rich old lady wearing jewlery joining a brazilian favela gang.
>>533979515buddy we care about cyrilic script and orthodoxy about as much as we do about jew runes and howling at the moon
>>533979963>hence for example russian civilization never built castlesSo Turkey, Caucasus and Levant should be included into Europe, got it.>>533979807>Russia did not partake in any of these transformations with Europe.Russian population demanded it tho. They had a whole civil war and a few revolutions over it.
>>533980102just responding to tell you are worthless as a human being
>>533978484does Veno's poison last hit nowadays? Back when I played his ult couldn't kill on its own, even though it allowed denying the player
>>533980125Russia did not have a civil war over democracy, enlightenment, and human rights, anon.They had a civil war over their form of government, fair enough, but Democracy was not the primary goal here, getting rid of the tsar was.
>>533980125so turkey, caucasus and levant have a stonger claim to being european (or europe adjacent) than russia
>>533980149That was poison Nova. This got removed years ago. You are old, anon.His Q (Gale) is denyable and kills.
>>533973156I learned my first russian words from Dota 2 and I'm just here to tell you, stop while you can Serb-Bro, I've been playing since 2013 and all I have to show for it are virtual costumes for my Crystal Maiden Waifu
>>533980102The Russian home ownership rate is WAY higher than Europe Poor faggot
>>533980221Yea man this is just pure butthurt.>>533980192I dunno what to tell you, read like half a century prelude to Russian revolution.
>>533980362>The Russian Enlightenment was an 18th-century intellectual and cultural movement focused on modernizing Russia, promoting arts, sciences, and education, often driven by enlightened absolutism under rulers like Catherine the Great. It brought Europeanization, the first university, and a surge in literature, but differed from the West by maintaining autocracy and failing to abolish serfdom
>>533980362>>533980429Dont you think it matters when these things get implemented half-arsed and centuries later? I dunno man. im not "blaming" them, its just that history went a little different there...
>>533973156>>533973244Ah sweet a slavic mutual hatred thread
>>533980255Everyone gets addicted to different stuff, dota is not one of them for me.
>>533980362it's the objective truth
>>533974776this but unironically, reading these eastern europeans on /pol/ is like niggers crying about oppression.cant we move on like the germans and french did with their revanchism and think about the jewish question for once?
>>533973156>when I speak English they're asking me why I don't speak Russian (cyrillic guild). I get bored of this and tell them they're not the only ones using cyrillic.Are you writing English using cyrillic? wtf
>>533979963I always knew that Norwegians are Asiatic Jews of the north>>533980235>You are old, anonMaybe.Gale being deniable makes sense. Thanks for clearing it up.
>>533980480>Dont you think it matters when these things get implemented half-arsed and centuries laterBecause of geographical distance more so than anything else. Russia just put it's own spin on things. In all honesty, they're either European or their own thing. Certainly not Asia.
>>533980561>cant we move on like the germans and french did with their revanchism and think about the jewish question for once?Well uh... The Eurocentric Slavs have something to add here. It's the Russians.
>>533973156you should just use cyrillic
>>533978484he was probably shitfaced and wanted a reason to grief anyways
>>533980491Good Serb bro stay strong, my next win is for you, toast Rakia to my good fortune. NA server not worst server! (That's SEA)
>>533980221>>533980125>So Turkey, Caucasus and Levant should be included into Europe, got it.In the original definition of Europe, the Levant and Anatolia are included. The Baltic states and Scandinavia not so much.The North Caucasus is definitely within geographic Europe.
Honestly as a dumb mono lingual american I think polish would be much easier to understand in cyrillic, that alphabet is nice. One sound for each letter, as Cyril intended. Don't come at me with that b soft sound letter I don't need to know about it.
>>533980671>that pickek, its kinda ironic seeing how PLC brought those jews in to eastern europe to begin with.poles in this board are really something else, its always russia this russia that sometimes germany this and that, not a single word about jews
>>533980588>they're either European or their own thingRegardless of whats currently going on, to me they kind of were their own thing always... A sort of Gateway Nation, similar to Türkiye in a way (and somewhat of a rival, fittingly). But the argument about pan-europanism is solid. It just leads to me thinking about the next step, which was the application of these ideas and how the different path russia took still defines it to this day, and also its differences. personally, I blame the oprichniks.
>>533980774Funny thing is me and my friend started queueing NA server and spics are such vibe, they're deranged and funny. I just can't take games on NA seriously.
>>533980709no one should, it's pointlessif we wanted to use greek script we'd just use greek script
>>533980870Let's see how politics play out in the next five decades. With the US causing chaos things might start looking funny. The US had positive among the negative effects on Europe, one of them being the unity under the Americans.
>>533980996>one of them being the unity under the Americans.Its interesting you perceive it this way. In my day to day talkings with Europeans, I get the feeling that the USAs behaviour has a unifying effect.>my neighbour might be a retard, but the degens from the next village are even worse
>>533973156Anon they think Monkeydonians invented modern Cyrillic.. tells you enough.
>>533973156All plumbers know is about plumbing - and Russians don’t care that plumbers even exist. It works both ways.
>>533980870youre completely ignoring the fact that they had a lot of liberal revolutionaries, not only bolsheviks which were the minority.the provisional government was fundamentally liberal too.the only reason they went down the communist path was the provisional governments refusal to sue peace with germany.communism was not seen as tyrannical as it is now because we have hindsight to what that ideology leads to, besides, hungary went down that path too, bavaria as well and germany was very close to flipping towards communism at a point, same with spain.the scars of the war just werent bad enough as they were in russia for the population to turn towards extremism like that, and for the case of hungary, it was crushed by outside forces.
bulgarian khanate was a tribal state far from the balkans and a long time ago, they were like today, turks and asians.
>>533981250EU needs to become more centralized if it wants to stand up to China and USA. I am afraid (I am one of those that knows this country relies on economy of EU, because of geography, all opinions aside this should decide how we view EU). This centralization has seen pushback so far, and for good reason, between France and Germany it's hard to see who will take the mantle without pissing the other off. And then there's a problem of expecting a far end of Spain to help frontier militaries on the east. And the matter of language. We'll see.>>533981344Cyrillic came from FYROM, seethe.
>>533973156education system diff desu
>>533976655Ukrainians are nuggets confirmed.
>>533981506Preslav literally school, disciples of Climent of Ohrid. Nothing to do with glagolitic. Dilate s*rbshit.
>>533978835Likely true but I haven't been playing for long and grinding MMR takes a long time if you mostly play support like I do. I've got a few immortal friends and they never complain when I play unranked with them. Also what's your opinion on facet removal? I liked being able to customise a bit based on the drafts but most people seem ok with it.
>>533974255lmao literally the niggers of Europa
>>533981656See you on the battlefield, Subutai.
>>533981656go edit more wikipedia articles, you're slacking
>>533981586I am jelaous, if I didn't know what sectors made up Chilean economy I'd get an F. I remember my teacher being mad I didn't learn fucking central Asian rivers. Amu and Sir Darya these balls you dumb bitch.
>>533980870>personally, I blame the oprichniks.at the very establishment of their civilization mongols made muscovite kniaz a glorified tax collectoroprichnics were just a way to continue this short vertical power structure without mongol overlordshipthey never had a chance
>>533981424>the scars of the war just werent bad enough as they were in russiafuck off retard
>>533982034Better collect tax than die I guess. Wcyd.Anyways they were killing Turkic power centres left and right eventually.
>>533982206He's unironically not even wrong. Russian civil war caused more casaulties than WW1. To an already poor country.
>>533982215they are essentially a turkic power center seeing how their civilisation stems from turko-mongols>>533981424>the provisional government was fundamentally liberal too.lasted half a year, got dismantled by counterrevolution, no one fought for it - instead russians supported either reestablishment of colonial empire or neocolonial soviets
>>533981673>Also what's your opinion on facet removal?I dont think there has been a single patch with that many removed unique abilities, ever. Thats what I dislike about getting rid of them. I didnt quite like the "choose this path that determines the rest of the game" , it was a bit anti-dota in its philosophy. I think facets might be slowly reintroduced via talents, but we shall see.
>>533981673Facet removal is good, was hard to balance and hence didn't make much sense.Now we need to remove wisdom runes, remove bounty runes and reduce passive gpm so playing support is not basically playing a core without any pressure. Fucking support Rubick running around with 2600hp minute 15. Oh yeah, forgot about neutral items, remove those too.
>>533982249Yes, the scars of Russias Civil War were not felt in the rest of Europe. And why should they.Dont fall for the emotional doublespeak here. The argument was essentially >WW1 was so bad >poor russia didnt have a choice>other countries just werent as devastatedby what? WW1 or the Civil war?>inb4 its all germanies fault picrel
>>533981767>>533981806You will be taken over by shiptars and beg for passports. We will flood you with gypsies to finish you off.
>>533981424>the scars of the war just werent bad enough as they were in russia for the population to turn towards extremism like that,Also, what an utterly idiotic argument to make since we know how and why Hitler came to power in between the wars. Utterly moronic. Again, Picrel. That shit is the reason Adolf came to power.
>>533982616>We will flood you with gypsiesDidn't know you plan to live in this area.
All it takes to cancel WW3 is to give Poland to Russia.It's just that fucking simple. Then the proper EU can restart its economic relations with Russian, US will approve and join on that too, and only thing that will happen is that Polish civillian populace will be used as testing dummies for experimental ammo and grenades.Just give them Poland.
>>533974495france belongs to germany, and the people need to go back to italy, spain and africa
>>533973156Why cant Europeans just calm down and not fight their neighbours. It's always something with them. Just chill!
>>533974290i think thats the joke, everyone would rather forget poland is a place so no one actually knows
>>533982206 >post an argument>hurr durr fuck offthis is why i stopped going to this reddit shithole>france while more military loss proportionally to population, was shielded from starvation due to open trade routes and better food production>germany lost 500-700k civilians to starvation and a collapsing economy>russia lost around a million or more and a collapsing economyand inflation, 1917>russian inflation went up by 1400% >germany and france went up by 100%
>>533982834All it takes to cancel WW3 is for russia to roll back to asiaIt's just that fucking simple. Then the proper EU can go back to not spending anything on defence, US will approve and keep being retarded in western asia, and only thing that will happen is that steppeniggers will finally be back where they belong.Just fuck off
>>533982662Don't worry there will be no difference in your surroundings
>>533973156>It's pretty weird how most of Poles here know everything>Poles hereerr... Poles... *WHERE* ?! In Serbia ?! o_O
they dont know even what russia is. they are mongolid mutts every russian has tatar ancestry. finding a pure ruski with indo-european genes only is like finding a gem
>>533983384That's a cute point but you don't have the nukes to argue it.So best you will ever have is the points I mention. Sucks to suck.
>>533983516>picture and post unrelated
>>533982834keep changing your flag, but i know who you are, you nigger tranny. you're not european, not white, probably not even remotely human.
>>533983519as long as we live in pax americana we can't use nukes anywaywhen american grip on world falters we'll just make dirty bombs - worse case scenario poison yuga volga and don and thus get rid of your mongrel race forever
>>533973156>/pol/tard getting his worldview out a dead 20 year old moba game he plays in his mother's basementIt happens more often than you'd expect.
>>533973156Perhaps you will be speaking russian soon.
>>533982659Jesus christ you brown retard, I'm talking about directly post-war, yes Germany had it shit but this was less due to the war and more to do with the allies.>Hitler1933, 15 years have passed, worse wars such as WW2 were recovered from in a shorter period.This was caused by foreign oppression of Germany post WW1, French occupation of the Rheinland coal mines and printing to pay war reparations.All of this naturally fuels nationalism which led to Hitler, it was the failure of allied powers rather than their own government, the population ended up hateful towards the allies.Russia wasn't oppressed by foreigners but were failed by their own government, there was little reason for the population to go towards nationalism.Communism and Socialism was abundant in Germany at the end of WW1 for the same reason, Kiel mutiny was staged by Socialists, the upcoming government was Socialist and a Communist coup happened in Bavaria, but as you know these people slowly lost support to Hitler for reasons stated above.Don't bring up shit 15 years later, 15 years ago trannies were deemed mentally ill by the vast vast majority of the population.
>>533983777>sageThis thread will get to bump limit. We both know that.
>>533981762ok gypsy