my state is being sold down the river to build data centers. these facilities are overwhelmingly unpopular but local governments are ignoring their constituents and moving ahead with construction. at the same time, water and sewer has been or is being privatized.it's going to be a very bad situation for many people.
>>533976880>local governments are ignoring their constituentsI have a suspicion they voted for this.
they build 20 in my city this year. They plan 80 new data centers by 2030. Its all staffed by indians.
>>533977167the decision isn't put to popular vote. when i say it's unpopular, i mean a lot of people are showing up to town hall events and voicing extreme disapproval. they're trying to build a few data centers 20 minutes from where i live. a lot of people are organizing protests, town hall events, etc. on facebook, and there are talks of hiring a law firm to represent our interests.
Who needs those data centers? Palantir?
>>533977440no one knows because it's all hidden behind lawyers and deliberate obfuscation. you can find out the names of construction companies and law firms representing the construction operation, but i've yet to see who stands to own and operate the computer hardware/software.
>>533976880former NEPAfag, I got out when marcellus took off, another week, another grift >Shapiroour state has always been a rohan for frontplater kikes
>>533977544Nobody, it's just embezzlement. They will never get the hardware. Not even a flash drive or SD card. Your 27 year old fat polemon pirate tranny is a more reliable provider of data storage and processing power. The poor retard is using cards instead of digitial no less.
>>533977544I'd say Palantir on behalf of Pentagon and/or the 3-letter agencies, NSA being the main candidate but what the fuck do I know. Let me tell you this though; those data centers aren't meant to make YOUR life any better.
>>533977304Organize a recall for everyone on the council voting to approve and you’ll find out how many people actually give a shit.
>>533977554i grew up in bradford county and lived there during the boom. it's nice to see that most residents learned their lesson from the boom grift.shapiro is a kike but there is no alternative. fetterstein is playing both sides as a dutiful agent of israel. last week mckikemac did a photo op in a private hebrew school. they both love data centers.
>>533976880Why do we need these things? More ai slopMass surveillance???
>>533976880You know they won't stop until one of you is dead. What will you do?
>>533976880These are going to be part of the future AI dystopian state. They don't have the infrastructure fully in place yet.But they will if you let them. If Politicians are straight up ignoring constituents, and there's no vote, it's not going to end well. Politicians aren't allowed to just screw over their constituents because globohomo is pressuring them.
>>533977304Unfortunately there’s very little local governments can do, it’s state law that is the problem. If state law allows data centers as an approved use, localities must zone for it or they can be sued for the right to build. State law supports the data centers in this case. There’s literally nothing they can do to “ban” a data center. The only thing they can do is proactively zone a really shitty plot of land for a data center and then pass a bunch of bullshit ordinances that make it really difficult to build and operate a data center to make it as unattractive as possible. Even then, they risk being sued if they go too far in these efforts.The state zoning laws need to change.t. PA resident
>>533976880Data centers probably have a lot of flammable material inside them.
>>533977962>There’s literally nothing they can do to “ban” a data center.there's plenty that can be done, it's just not advisable to talk about it online.
>>533976880YWDS
>>533978080i work from home, i'll just move someplace else.
>>533978080the bot post, right on time kek
>>533977815AI doesn’t exist. It is to build surveillance systems to grab all the data, all of it, then use massive amounts of hardware to achieve the processing power to do anything of practical use with it. AI is the marketing label, and the current public facing AIs only exist to con people into thinking it is something more than software. We are nearing the end of Moore’s Law, technical advancement is stagnating on the hardware level. No longer having a not so distant future providing smaller and faster versions of current chips means improved quality gives way to quantity. Quantity being data centers using more resources than makes sense to brute force our way towards what AI has never turned into.
>>533978054That much is obvious. I was thinking the same thing after I posted. I should have said “with the current laws, there’s nothing LEGAL that can be done to ban a data center”
you voted for it
>>533976880After fracking, now it is about the water directly.PA votes democrat and have sold the land twice, thrice, maybe four times in one generation. The boomers are going to leave the land so derivatized by vampire squids that it will be too toxic for the amish and mennonites to live around. Centralia The State.
>>533978876>left kike vs right kikesee >>533977726
>>533976880>at the same time, water and sewer has been or is being privatized.>it's going to be a very bad situation for many people.NOW do you grok why we prefer to shit in the streets?
>>533976880Just move
>>533976880>these facilities are overwhelmingly unpopular but local governments are ignoring their constituentsThey need to get their attention somehow.
>>533976880>ignoring their constituentsWe had a data center proposed for our county. There was such a huge turnout they had to move the meeting to the local arena. It was overwhelmingly against doing it. So they tabled the vote. They picked it up again a few weeks later when there were less people there to lynch them for doing it. But it doesn't end there.On the week they had the vote, the data center company sent out an email to the local unions telling them to sign up for speaking slots so normal people wouldn't be able to be heard. So on the day of the vote, they had 60 people sign up to speak. They made it through 12, mostly in favor of the data center, before time ran out. They called a vote to extend the time by 30 minutes and they refused. They voted then and there to allow the data center to come in. It's gonna cost us $500 million and won't be ready for 6-8 years. I fucking hate them so much.
>>533977962Probably the most unsung breach of freedom in the modern world is that municipalities do not have the right to control what businesses and people settle and pass through them.
Are these things even going to be built or is it all some kind of market speculation? And even if they're built does the hardware exist to fill them?
>>533976880None of these data centers are economically viable. How the fuck is a mega project in utah going to be profitable if it consumes more raw power than entire state. It's retarded. But jews are schizophrenic.
>>533981059>>533981076It's not about money it's for the Jews killer robots
>>533981059Probably not. Ours isn't even being built for any purpose. They plan to rent out the servers but have no tenants. They're just building it in the hope that in 6-8 years, someone will want to rent from them. It's fucking stupid.
just buy NVDA faggot. Don't even think of shorting it, especially at its current price, only Michael Burry can pull that off.
Data centers draw so much power they have their own substations. Do with this information what you will.
>>533977705What are they for?
Cities have always bent over backwards for businesses, but the AI horseshit has people noticing Nobody really pays attention to what their mayors and county boards are doing so its easy for them to do corrupt shit quietly
>>533976880These data centers will bring dozens of acceptable-paying jobs to the region. Why do leftists hate economic growth?
>>533977544The one in Lancaster is CoreWeave.
>>533981972yeah. while using millions of gallons of water and untold amounts of electricity. For a dozen or so jobs, not dozens. Data centers require a skeleton crew to work. its another jewish trick to control water rights and electricity pricing.
>>533981972Nigger you're retarded. They'll bring a few jobs while they're constructing them, but once finished the entire idea of the datacenters is for AI to replace jobs. No one wins from this except the Jews
>>533982171>CoreWeavethat company is sooooooo gonna eat shit having bought all those soon-to-be-outdated chips. My god, it's such a glorious scam. They exist solely to inflate Nvidia's revenue when the big 4 haven't bought enough that quarter
That's a bold move considering the amount of Pennsylvanians that will actually "do shit" when it comes to political fuckery.
>>533977440They are building them to power their surveillance/police state and keep you from chimping out when they go for hard depopulation intentionally starving 60% of humanity
>>533982687Umm that's kind of stupid. The grid was always going to be destroyed if they tried that and datacenters just makes it easier to target.
>>533976880Fuck them hillbillies
>>533982250>millions of gallons of waterLess than a municipal golf course, and it can be recycled through the cooling loops quite easily.
>>533977671>nobody, it's just embezzlementThis is a strong possibility imo. These projects represent tens of billions of dollars, maybe more, and countless jobs at each site. So in a way, they're creating a phantom-ware bubble and most people have zero clue what a datacenter is to begin with so most don't even ask relevant questions.The fact is, we already have datacenters. Anon in another thread confirmed my thought on this, which is that many of these are not even at capacity, and you easily could stand up new equipment to bring the processing power online. You don't need 1,000 mega complexes to do that. The scale of this is incomprehensible.
>>533982454These centers are also extremely vulnerable to any form of guerilla or decentralized attack. Tons of outdoor pipelines, minimal security on the outside, very minimal access to law enforcement if an attack were to magically happen, not saying one would.Not to mention the confirmed data showing not only massive smell pollution, resource gorging, and the latest data showing harmful low frequency waves - all things the avg person can't vote or move away from easily.Creates a dangerous meeting of problems that have no verbal diplomatic solutions, at least not before too many people are hurt. Leaves people with not much to lose by turning to physical damage to the infrastructure.And honestly, I really wouldn't blame anyone.The 2-3% gain humanity gets on individual benefits in certain isolated niches of tech, is not worth the detriment. Just another gimmicky sidegrade already outdated the moment it was shat out the womb, by concepts that already exist and are more natural and beneficial (like transhumanism).Always get a laugh when AI whores call people luddites so readily. Hearts in the right place but not their minds.
>>533983336true. I get irked by all the water comments because it is a closed loop system. I don't see any of the claims they use tons of water substantiated. They have huge tanks, and a massive closed loop water cooling system; which is pretty cool because if you zoom out it's like a giant computer being built. But you dont' just have the tap opened dumping water endlessly.
Why do you want to restrict business? Honestly. Server farms make technology work. It doesn't matter if it's popular or not, it's a business and they have money. You have no right to stop a business from existing. Would you ban factories too and become california?
>>533976880>>533983411What is the map there indicating? Is each one of those markers where they're going to build one? Why are they building them so close to major cities if they're going to have an adverse affect on the surrounding population? Feels like something like this should be remotely located. I can't speak on Philly although I'm sure it's the same, but Pittsburgh already has a lot of issues with air quality due to local factories/coal refineries.
>>533983495I don't believe it's a totally net-zero system, i would wager they need to top off with a few thousand gallons of water weekly if they're vast. But at the end of the day, that's pretty low.
I’ll just leave this here
>>533977440basically every software company. the only software that exists anymore is SaaS. instead of opening ‘program’ on PC now everybody opens a webpage version. those webpages need to be hosted somewhere. the reality tho is its some form of fraud. when you examine the states with most data centers, those states are also big farm country with property tax loopholes to accommodate 10,000 acre properties. SaaS corps are building data centers in these areas then likely receiving abatements on property taxes from local govt. this allows them to then write off biz losses as property expenditures with no risk of taxes. most probably dont even host on site bcuz it risks their vendor contracts. easier and cheaper to pay for hosting and fake building.>proofsas soon as Ohio AG approved that property tax ban quest, same week all the major kike corps taking over Ohio went silent and renegged on data center agreements. been up in air since. thats how you can tell this all about abatement loop holing. willing to bet PA is almost identical hence the middle of the state being data center empty. idk how quaker property tax works but willing to bet it has same loopholes.>fwiwColumbus OH is the next illuminati tech capital. seeing all those data centers on border and around Pittsburgh/80 is zero surprise. the fact none of these corpo sites nearby Iron Mountain is also a yuuuuuugggge giveaway. its like putting a personal bank vault on any MLK Ave instead of inside an existing JPM Chase vault surrounded by jewish temples
>>533983906It's a warehouse, it doesn't have an "adverse effect"
>>533984372What's all the hubbub then? I genuinely don't know about this topic, or why it's bad. I just know that people have fear of data centers being built, but why? Is there a QRD?
>>533984476Americans being dumb mostly. Mostly the same sort of stuff who hate 4/5G or what ever.
>>533983501I don't think the opinions of populations dependent on the quasi UBI of SSDI for their working age populations should be weighted particularly heavily for what's good for their towns.
>>533984476>>533984610they drive up the cost of electricity and water. the claim is that these data centers bring tax revenues to local governments, but it never works out because these places get a decade of tax abatement from local government -- at which point they close down and move elsewhere for a new tax abatement.
>>533984476They drive up electricity prices and strain the local grid,m. If the tax money states and municipalities collected from the data centres were used to upgrade infrastructure it might actually benefit locals but that tax money just goes into general revenue to be spent on Somali daycares and what have you while your local power utility simply passes the increased costs to the citizens. It’s just another example of privatizing profits and socializing losses
>>533976880Good. That's what you creekshitting hillbillies deserve for voting for republicans
>>533976880It’s incredible that every government official from the top of the federal government to the bottom of irrelevant city halls is absolutely kiked to the max.
>>533976880We are witnessing the Manhattan project of our time. AI Terminator style warfare is coming, either your side gets it first or the other side does.You don't want to be on the wrong side of this one, stop whining about data centers.
>>533984372They put them near population centers to get access to someone else's existing electric grid and water supply.It would be possible for them to build in remote locations, find their own water, and generate their own electricity. But it's way cheaper to buy a gullible politician with promises of tax revenue, and plug into someone's existing infrastructure.Everyone's water and electric supply is stressed, and utility rates skyrocket as electric companies scramble to find new suppliers.
>>533984929China already beat the us in 'aking the panopticon. the us is focused on making its own proprietary software/hardwareSo we can put jewish backddors in them instead of chinee ones (the jewish backdoors will be sold to china)
>>533978365For what purpose? What still needs to be calculated?
>>533976880I kinda wish politics would get out of this pseudo-faggot state it's in now where everyone pretends about things for months on endimagine the efficiency of having a town hall where the chairman says "I'm writing your objections down. I'm putting them in this folder - this is the folder we use for important things!" then brings out a shredder and eviscerates documents while saying "this is the shredder we use for official business" and then they just ignore everyone's objections and do whatevercut out the middle portion where the constituency fights for months on end to be ignored and skip to the end result were they're ignored
>>533977962all of this could be solved by cops looking the other way
>>533984346Pittsburgh is the former illuminati tech capital and is riddled with masonic symbolismthe fucking bridges make a square and compass
>>533985174I was reading about Waymo and other self-driving cars this morning. They use massive neural nets to run simulations of virtual self-driving cars using real time traffic telemetry to help refine their models. That’s just one example. I’m sure the glowies have all sorts of other fun shit up their sleeves
>>533985113Infrastructure projects are always paid off at a loss. its why china can eat their costs as nation building but ends up having a company go bankrupt or devoured in merger in the western capitaltis government auction for lowest bidding contractors.The businesses that build t+ese data centers will lose out in the end then the data centers will be taken over by companies like flock and mojamg for pennies on the dollar.at least china was smart enough to drastically increase their power production while putting their data centers in. when it comes to american busnisees they are cheap and stingy when it comes to supporting anything other than itself.
>>533985301Its pretty suprising how much business marketing and political science overlap.A culture of deciet and manipulation is the fruit of politics. it will need to adapt thorns eventually when the people start becoming bloodthirsty
Boomers are at it again. They'll destroy acres of beautiful land if it means they get even a dozen more "cute" AI cat vids on Facebook.
>>533976880Always cracks me up when retards complain about data centers on the internet. How do you think this shit works?
>>533981059Apparently they're built or being built because I'm a centralpafag and me and everyone around me's electric bills have absolutely fucking skyrocketed over the past two years because of some bill to socialize the costs of building and powering them. All so we can have retarded videos of cats working at McDonalds in our Facebook feeds that boomers think are real.
>>533981972If Texas is any guide these places will be staffed exclusively by Indians.I'm sure there's more to this than just economics. They don't trust Americans.
Is it that hard to tell people what buildings are for?What if I wanted to buy one?
>>533976880OH NO YINZER, BETTER GO THROW YOUR WOODEN SHOES INTO THE DATA CENTERS GUTS!fucking luddite idiot
>>533976880You lost, yankee
>>533986748hey niggerbrain, explain to me the difference (with respect to power draw and thermal waste) between conventional data centers and GPU compute farms.
>>533988440sorry but you'll have to go back to generating images of child pornography by hand.
>>533976880>local governments are ignoring their constituentsWell there's your problem right there, anon. >>533977304That's literally how our government works, anon. We elect our representatives, they speak in our stead. >there are talks of hiring a law firm to represent our interests.This country needs mandatory civics lessons.
>>533977714flicker
>>533988634>just vote harder
>>533976880If some Missouri hillbillies did it, so can you.https://www.wsj.com/us-news/the-small-midwest-community-leading-americas-crusade-against-data-centers-92621c55
>>533985174My running theory, although this mostly applied to israel and their spy apps, is that they're basically selling companies spy apps to have all their shit scraped for who knows what, market manipulation? Corporate espionage and takeovers? But that's just because of the people that Maxwell was meeting with, high profile business people, and trying to hock of data scraping apps on them. Also Maxwell's sister did some data scraping with US intelligence agencies. So it's some sort of massive blackmailing network or something? dunno sounds farfaetched
>>533976880>>533977304>>533977815>>533978876>>533980041>>533983411>>533980917Listen, you stupid leftist motherfuckers. We are in an AI race with China. We need every possible advantage to do everything we can to win. What happens to your stupid little town is not our concern. We need to build these data centers. We need to import H1B Indian talent to staff them. We need to do this or Chinese communism will win. Do you stupid hick fucks get that? Stand in our way and you’re an enemy combatant.
>>533989497Is that you Grok?
>>533989497>52% of short-form video content on platforms like TikTok and Instagram Reels is either fully AI-generated or heavily AI-assisted. It's a ponzi scheme for your mind. Capturing people's attention with their phones and brainwashing them is the new industrial market. China is using it as a main propaganda source. But there's one really big reason why nobody talks about this
>>533989665I’ll bite off by one Satan. What’s the big reason?
>>533989497Win what?
>>533981158>no repliesThis anon is correct. The data centers are to power a real time surveillance system the likes of which the world has never seen. All those cameras and sound detectors that went up in recent years are the eyes and ears, the data centers are the brain.
>>533984929Something about this line of thinking doesn't sit right with me.>China's oppressing their people with AI dystopia, goy!>If we don't oppress you harder they're going to win!This is evil. I'd rather we just nuke China and any other country that tries to create this, it would be less damaging in the long run.
>>533988440>>533986748These posts were coordinated offsite
>>533990515I said nothing about countries oppressing people with AI. I also said nothing of the other side being China. When I call out terminator style AI warfare is coming I mean it in the same way Nuclear warfare came during ww2. Right now Palestinia is the testing ground for the following AI based warfare systems:>Lavender: An AI system that identified up to 37,000 Palestinians suspected of being Hamas militants, often with minimal human verification of its AI-generated targets.>Habsora (The Gospel): A tool designed to quickly analyze surveillance and communication data to identify infrastructure targets, allowing for rapid airstrikes.>"Where's Daddy?": A tracking system that notifies military operators when targeted individuals enter their homes, often leading to strikes on entire families.>Operational AI Data Factory: An advanced system that aggregates live video, sensor data, and signals intelligence to create a, real-time picture of the battlefield, now utilized in Gaza, Lebanon, and Iran. these are the ones we know about, the public ones. You do not want to be in a war where the other side has perfected these systems and you have not.
>>533991084You didn't have to say China, it's obvious it's about them.We have a corrupted elite class who has been thoroughly exposed and needs to be deposed. How is an AI surveillance superstate going to help with that, exactly?
>>533976880It would be awesome if the Amish started raiding these things and killing every person thereOr, at least for people to dress up as them and do so
>>533991084These are all suppression systems against insurgents in already occupied and/or heavily surveilled territories. Rolling this out in your own country means the government believes the enemy is it’s own populace. Think about it.
>>533992176They know that you know that they know.First one to blink.
>>533992302I’m no threat, I own no guns, I just want to live in peace. Seriously though, China wants “AI” to keep its own population in line. Is that what Americans want for themselves?
>>533992517This is the antichrist system they're ushering in. Nobody will be able to exist outside of it's bounds and remain alive.It doesn't matter if you're peaceful or not. This is biblical prophecy.
>>533976880Fly drones into them.
>>533993333Checked
>>533976880Get ready for your power bills to double or triple.
boomp
>>533976880Get used to itData centers are everywhere in NoVa
>>533984162I miss this local sexpot like you wouldn't believe https://youtu.be/TMHCw3RqulY
>>533976880Where do you live? North west Jersey, or near ol' Scranton Joe's old stomping grounds?
>>533977440For the upcoming Beast system
>>533976880data centers are how the glowie deep state existIts spreading from Virginia, Deep State Central>>533995682see?PA helped win Trump the last electionDeep state is going to get their tendrils in your state to make that not happen in the future
>>533991565The Amish don't give a fuck and don't do that sort of thing
>>533981972We don't want pajeets
>>533986674The AI data centers aren't for generating cute content though. It's jews creating a digital gulag.
>>533976880i wonder if the Constitution says anything about resisting tyrannical governments that do not represent The People...
>>533976880Why so many in PA? We have tons coming in here in Texas too but I understand why our grid is completely run by the state, no fed oversight so it's much easier to buy politicians and get the favorable deals they want. Plus Texans are greedy AF and trip over each other to sell grandpa's ranch to developers while simultaneously whining about the state being ruined.
>>533997562Unironic former IDF soldier jew governor
