Minimum wage should guarantee minimum standard of living and yet it doesn't.
You have been reported to the ADL for extreme antisemitism.
basic needs arent a human rightdo better be better
>>533977536So fry cook at mcslop should give you all the same benefits as working as a skilled professional? Unskilled menial labor has always been produced an unreliable hand to mouth existence. The goal has always been to elevate yourself above entry level positions.
>>533977536>rent>healthcareFell for the language of entrapment. I will laugh at you fags trying to beg for enough UBI when the robots work the trades at 100x human speed 24/7.
>>533977536americans are too lazy to work min wage jobs, thats why we need Mexicans and Indians, pay cannot solve that problem
>>533977536OY VEYyou must borrow money to survive goy
>>5339775361. planned economies do not work.2. leave people alone.
>>533977719here is peak performance for youtwo trillion, or 10000 from each and every working American
>>533977536>Minimum wage should guarantee minimum standard of livingEconomics tells us it cant. But Id like to know why your dumb ass thought it would in the first place?
>>533977536If you pay me minimum wage, expect minimal effort. Haha.
>>533977819>planned economies do not workYeah, we're experiencing that right now.
So a 6'x7' room, an emergency room visit and a daily ham sandwich and bottle of water.
No, it doesn't. Minimum wage means you'll have to live with family to survive. You want your own apartment, car while living lone? That's a luxury minimum wage cant afford.
>>533977736you want your fucking burgers or not fatso?
>>533977865>Economics tells us it cant
>>533977536It can, and does for many people.Don't work at a job that has no skill requirement and it wouldn't be a problem.But you don't have any skills, or talents so that's a you problem.Consider suicide.
>>533977536This is reasonable. >>533977933Why? Its like that in Norway. Its pretty good
>>533977536it's almost like the merchants increase prices when the minimum wage increases, because they know that since people have more money, they can charge more for the same thing
>>533977536standards of living is for trannys and leftists. REAL MEN sell their body for any hourly wage and dont see nothing wrong with it.
>>533977736yes, why not? the benefits can be the same but reduced. a "skilled professional" is usually a fucking moron anyways. corporate execs are some of the stupidest mfs out there but got there through fucking others over or daddy.
>>533978019What job has no skill requirements? Every job takes some set of skills. Also, even like $20/hour isn't enough to live in a lot of places.Whatever jobs you think are unskilled are probably pretty important for society.
>>533977736Sure why not?They're sure as hell charging for mcslop as if its made by a professional.You don't really think the multifold price increase over the last ten years is purely inflationary, do you?
>>533977736americans can't even conceive of the system failing. I just read a local job posting for 21 dollars an hour (15 usd) for 4 mechanical engineers with atleast 1 year previous work experience, and this phenomenal pay (min wage is 17 dollars an hour) is for work in the aerospace industry. Luckilyy rent for a bachelor starts at only 1650 a month (1200usd)burger flippers in america live in luxury compared to candian mechanical engineers in the aerospace industryamericans are just too fat and should starve
>>533977536Get a real adult job and it does. Working at fucking taco bell is a kids job
>>533978337what is your job and how much do you make a year?
>>533977536yup. my parents grew up in a golden age. i have to work two jobs to make 50k a year and there is no guarantee I will have either job by the end of the year.
One full-time job should cover rent, food and healthcare.If working 40 hours a week isn't enough to live, the jews and leftists are the ones importing brownflation, not you. You will never have socialism, you chose anti-racism instead.
>>533978196I can tell you're a wagie just by this comment, nobody but baristas or burger flippers have this opinion>every job takes skillLmao, lol - yeah, you really need a great degree of skill to fold a shirt, flip a burger or fill a cup with coffee.Denying reality will do you no favors, you probably work a skill-less job and are just seething.>20/hrThey deserve the old min wage of 6.5 or whatever it was.
Just get 3 roommates so you can afford that 1 bedroom apartmentH1B Indians have no issue doing it, stop being such a lazy and entitled shit and GRIND
>>533978419what is your job and how much do you make a year?
>>533977536Destroy the jew utterly and to the last. If you assholes who whine about wanting free shit tolerate the jew just shut the fuck up.God damned jews are sucking all the wealth out of the world. If you want some of that either by trickle down or trying to take it destroy the jew.
>>533977719>>533977742>>533977793>>533977819>>533977854>>533977865>Why aren't plebs having kids>plebs don't deserve anything
>>533977736>>533977536Ops image is absolutely correct.A high trust white society is more valuable than individual wealth.You should get the bare minimum with minimum wage.Don’t forget, Jews told what you might call “capitalists” to bring in a bazillion browns as cheap labour. Then they just point at the gdp number and pretend everything is great.Fostering a nation is expensive.Also Jews use outlets like daily wire to push for free market capitalism.A mixed economy is healthy, seeing as humans are not rational consumers widely.
>>533977865>Economics tells us it can't.Economics tells us it's necessary otherwise a debt bubble forms and credit collapses along with the rest of the economy.
>>533977719being allowed to exist out of your bunker without security is no longer a human right
>>533977777
>>533977536Try not being a middle school dropout nigger and see how your career options expand.
>>533978412Socialism is communism which are both Jewish. Your meme flag isn't fooling anyone rabi
am on board with thisminimum wage in Belgium is around €1700 netto or $2000 US in take-home pay after taxes and social costsfull-coverage health insurance is universal, with tiny co-pays like 3 euros for people at lower income levels ... some weeks of wait for specialists sometimes but not ridiculousbasic apartments are findable for about €900 in bigger cities, €600 in smaller places ... if you are poor gov will actually lend you the 2 or 3 month security deposit interest free to help you get your own placethere is lots screwy here, corruption with the EU etc, but if you work at all you are ok ... if you are a couple and both work, you are comfy
>>533978569what is your job and how much do you make a year?
>>53397753640 hours/week ??? For not starving to death and sleeping under a roof. Yeah no, 7h/week should be enough for that, for 40 hours/week, i want to be able to drive a fucking Bugatti.
>>533977736>all the same benefitsyou've never worked a job in your life have you?
>>533977719>individual: *exists*>state: Hey fucking pay me for that you cheap fucking faggot, fuck you nothing is yours it's all ours fuck you FUCK YOU pay upMan I wonder why so many people are checking out, total mystery right there
>>533978337>>533978419>>533978569why do they never say what they do for a living and how much they make a year?
>>533977536Every slave owner provided free food, free housing and free healthcare.
>>53397753640 hours a week is pretty fucking steep. One 32 hour a week job doing literally anything should provide financial security, and let’s not forget about a guaranteed option to work from home.
>>533978460What color is the sky? Do beetles make a nutritious snack?I can ask irrelevant questions too.Sorry the truth hurts wagie
>>533977736You act like frycook isnt an extremely demanding job. Meanwhile some HR rep makes triple to send 10 emails a day and make actual resourcing producing people watch a video explaining why its bad to call niggers anything but the golden calves america makes them out to be
>>533977536>Minimum wage should guarantee minimum standard of livingThat is flat out made up.
>>533978337>real adult jobLet me guess, something that involves sitting in front of a computer and doing something that AI is going to, or has already, taken over?The service industry is our only industry because we don't fucking make anything.Or do you really think the one flipping your burgers during schools hours is a high schooler?
>>533978775you never answered the question. i make $150k and i work in accounting.
>>533978809What is the point of a job that doesn't pay enough for even a minimum standard of living? The people working those jobs need to live if you want them there to be able to do the job.
>>533978795Its not. Its basic menial labor that you can train a zoomy teen or an illegal spanish only speaker to do in one shift. That kind of labor is low value with infinite supply and is paid accordingly. Either improve you skill set or do what millennials did when they first entered the workforce and get some roommates to split expenses.
>>533977736As someone who has worked in aviation maintenance and welding, I have met fast food workers who make some of my bosses look genuinely retarded.
>>533978948Sure is teenager in here.
>>533978712>>533977736It’s probably some edgy high schooler who gets bullied a lot
>>533978850If you had anything of value to say on an anonymous board you would leave your positions to stand on their own rather than introducing irrelevant personal claims to shift the conversation. Maybe try Reddit or Facebook if you just want to ego flaunt to strangers.
>>533978460>>533978775>>533978737why do they never answer this question, these people who judge what job is "real" and what job isn't "real"?>what is your job and how much do you make a year?
>>533978978>get some roommates to split expenses.OMG WE CANNOT DO THAT I AM GOING INSANE!@
>the government should guarantee every World Citizen™ a home, a wife, and 2.8 children otherwise we're living in a failed system>yes even retards, jews, and niggers
>>533979016Go to your average McDonald's and tell me how many actual teenagers you see working there
>>533977536"the system" = psychopath jewish monsters
>>533978999Yes im sure the nigger at mcshits is a genius in your eyes yes.
>>533978850Oh yeah well my dad works at nintendo so checkmate, gaytheist
>>533977719They are saying they work and cant afford it, not asking it for free tho
Why are zoomers so averse to just getting some roommates, anyway?
>>533979051i'm not flaunting anything, i make an unremarkable amount of money in a MCOL area where homes are $350k on average. if you think i'm flaunting my income, like it's an incredible amount of money, it sounds like you're a broke faggot retard who doesn't have a real job. have you thought about developing real skills and getting a real job? why are you so poor?
>>533977536That's because when you tell businesses they must pay more, they charge you more, and the expense of everything around you increases roughly proportionately to the pay increase you got which means your buying power has not changed and your standard of living stays the same. Why leftists can never understand this is beyond me.
I think it's fair to say that if a job requires 40 hours of your time during the week, then it should pay sufficiently for you to eat and put a roof over your head.
>>533979096The mindset is teenage tier, learn to read and understand spic.
So why don't they just move to whatever utopia has implemented this?
>>533979113another broke faggot retard making judgements on "real jobs" vs "not real jobs". see this post >>533979146 and learn some skills, poornigger.
>>533977536Whats wrong anti semite just win the powerball?
>>533978948The point is so that you get a 2nd job or move onto a better paying job - however this is also naive and assumes that a full time worker's time is worthless and the job market is totally saturated with cheap labour so it's not worth paying your workers a good wage.There is also the issue of minimum wage which is that it sometimes pays more than the job is actually worth in a lot of cases, so you end up causing unemployment due to the minimum wage being 'too high' which sounds oxymoronic but really isn't when you factor in the inflation that will be used to fund public workers.
>>533979141When I got into the workforce it was already well understood we did not have a 1950s situation and could not simply live alone when just getting into the workforce. We got roommates! Not sure why zoomers want to pretend they are dealing with some special unique situation.
>>533977742Trades? You’re fucking retarded. That will be the last to go. First will be service industry jobs lol
>>533979157Do you have an actual argument, nigger?
>>533979153You are just making up bullshit because you think the purpose of business is to provide you with something, it is not.
>>533979191I already said "checkmate gaytheist" so you don't have to keep trying to make your point
>>533977736You can’t even read. A skilled professional isn’t “minimum standard of living” so no, that’s not what it says you illiterate nigger.
>>533979237Pointing out you have a little kid understanding of the world is an argument paco.
>>533977536If you're working full time and still need government support then the government is subsidising your employer
>>533979263The "purpose of business" should be forcibly subjugated to the well-being of citizens.
>>533979149tons of leftists understand this. this specific tweet is just pandering to low iq people who don't understand this specific consequences that they have to worry about but it is also just a general complaint on how there are people working 40 hours a week but cant pay the bills. dont you agree its a problem that one cant sustain himself with 40 hours a week?
>>533977536I fully agree with this. Even savages have a hut and hunting ground. If a citizen wants to work, the state owes them enough money for rent, food and healthcare on their own. Similarly with electricity, and the phone and internet bills. Luxury goods though, that's something no one is entitled to.
>>533979278better finish up the seetheposting, your 10 minute unpaid break is almost done.
>>533979106Ironically, niggers are better at welding than white people in my experience but I chalk that up to the fact that nigger welders had to actually work to get through the trade school while the white ones just had it paid for by their parents.Anything else you want to comment on?
>>533979153And it does. You can make enough to rent a cuck box and cover basic expenses with such a job. The problem is you want a huge house and a plot of land and to feed tons of kids and a wife that only exist in your fantasies, all from the most low effort employment.
>>533979231>service industry jobs will be the first to goYeah still waiting on that, I might actually go out to eat once in a while if I'm not accosted by "Please leave a tip" screen from my robot worker.
>>533979292I'll take that as a "no" then. Thanks for playing
>>533977736it shows how rich you were growing up if fast food is the first thing you think of when you hear minimum wage. there are jobs with far more responsibility that still pay minimum wage because you only need another experienced worker to teach you everything there is to know. so the question is do you want ALL of those jobs being done by foreigners who don't speak your language, or would you rather keep that shit in McDonald's?
>>533979315No we should just remove monsters like you from the earth instead.
>>533979381post yarmulke, yid.
>>533979315>well-being of citizens.You spic fucks tell us this is stolen land then brow beat us about "citizens" CHOKE TO FUCKING DEATH
>>533979228I mean it technically is worse for them than it was for me (I'm a millennial) but yeah I've never been able to afford living on my own, I had to get roommates. It sucks but it is what it is, there is no such thing as one-income households anymore and there hasn't been for a while now unless you're one of the lucky ones who is making 200k+.
>>533979343Yeah. In my experience niggers arent even human.
>>533979369So what high value job to do have that pays minimum wage?
>>533979424You sound like a well learned and reasonable man. What do you do for your livelihood?
>>533979340The following message is for you:"Nigger"Thank you for your attention on this matter!>>533979381>What?! You work most of your free time and you want...compensation for it?! Fuck you, get dead you goddamned leech!The other anon is a nigger but you're a jew
>>533979343
>>533979417Lol, land can't be "stolen". It belongs to whoever has enough ability to claim it through violence. If someone invades your country and "steals" your land then it belongs to them now.
>>533977865>Economics tells us it cant.You got a source on that?
>>533979354Right because you are a little kid you think everything is just some kind of game.
>>533979491I sound like everyone earth thats met a nigger itl. Why are you even here comrade?
>>533977536Fun fact, minimum wage was designed to match the price of two loaves of bread
>>533979475warehouses are a great example, you have to learn how to use machinery and you need to be in relatively good shape. and in a heavily suburban Costco society these places are absolutely invaluable.
>>533979408Choke to death spic nigger.
>>533979593what is your job and how much do you make a year?
>>533979566Answer the question. What do you do for a living?
>>533979627The kike will just lie.
>>533979556You are staggeringly retarded
>>533977536Maybe if you stopped conflating minimum wage with full time work, people would take you more seriously.Maybe if you hadn't imported a hundred million brown people, you could afford a first world standard of living.
>>533978850>>533979061It isn't relevant to the conversation, because you know I'm right you have to deflect.
>>533979627I don't answer questions posted by non-White garbage, die in fire.
>>533979583Lifting boxs isnt skilled labor and that usually pays bit more than minimum wage. Especially if you're working overnight or are certified in operating machinery that most on the floor are not.
>>533979664Shut the fuck up leaf, go beg for your government to replace you some more.
>>533977536how would they rug pull you if it did?
>>533979707what is your job and how much do you make a year?>>533979736i have white skin and blond hair and a german surname. what color are your skin and hair? what is your job and how much do you make a year?
>>533977742Clerical jobs go first. You think AI couldn’t replace a receptionist?
>>533979776lmao
>>533979637I trigger shitskin subhumans that come to /pol/ and pretend they are people.
>>533977719I disagree. Before the declaration of independence, there were a lot of rights that people like you thought weren't. By the standards of the time, our Framers were the most radically left-wing government since Athens. I think that in scope of what societies can now plausibly provide to their citizens, we need to revisit human rights. Enough food to eat, the ability to see a doctor whenever you need to without going into forever-debt, and the ability to have your own home or apartment without splitting the rent. We can EASILY provide that to all citizens of America and the poor, suffering rich people will still be able to afford yachts... they just might be slightly smaller yachts. That's a sacrifice I'm willing to make for them.
>>533977736>So fry cook at mcslop should give you all the same benefits as working as a skilled professional?false dichotomy. That's not the argument, the argument is full time work should allow you to survive as in you should be able to acquire essentials like shelter and food
>>533979146I didn’t say the number you offered was a crazy amount of money, nor did I say you were bragging about it. I said it is irrelevant, be it true or not. I don’t care if you make jack shit or a billion a year, and on anonymous board, stating either is pointless. Let your ideas stand on their own. By ego flaunting I meant you are trying to turn a conversion into dick measuring contest for the purpose of giving your feeble mind a chance to dismiss others for their result in the contest rather than on the merits of what they say. >Single woman here>Black make here>Transitioning FTM here>Six figure earned here>AIDS infested junky here>Triple vaxxed immunologist hereNobody gives a fuck faggot, let your ideas stand on their own.
>>533979912you never answered the question. it's apparent that you are a self hating poorfag embarrassed of his material conditions. have you considered getting learning real skills and getting a real job?
>>533979762important labor isn't necessarily skilled. there are certain menial tasks that need to happen to keep society running. by the way, fast food isn't one of them.
>>533979858And it does. If you work 40 hours a work and minimum wage you can afford shelter food and basic utilities. What anons are complaining about is that those basics arent good enough.
>>533979798I work at wendys and make 120k per year +15% in bonuses.
>>533979846>our Framers were the most radically left-wing government since Athens.No one is being fooled you fucking faggot.
I support a living wage for jobs that require a highschool education. Sorry not sorry but if you're flipping burgers you deserve the same conditions as workcamp jobs or the past. Those jobs are for teens or women who should be married. If you're an adult male you should atleast be supervisor and take up some of the logistics/accounting.
>>533980049>more larpingwhat is your job and how much do you make a year?
>>533979813SeriouslyWe keep hearing about how robots are going to replace min wage burger flippers, but which is easier?Making a robot that can make physical human food and doesn't break down constantly, or replacing the person in front of a computer with a tablet connected to grok?
>>533979846Desperation is profitable. You would never get something passed that raised happiness.
>>533977536Because its subsidized by welfare. Lower welfare and wages will have to go up. Also gets squashed by h1bs and seasonal imported workers.
>>533977536>I should be able to do the absolute minimum and survive
>>533977736skilled professional should make a lot more so he can buy cars, boats, multiple houses or whatever. Minimum wage should guarantee the minimum without needing debt
>>533980257What I do or make has no bearing on anything.
Everyone ITT who believes in subjugation of their fellow man but doesn't live inside a gated community. Lmao @ your future
>>533980038>you can afford shelter food and basic utilitiesSo basically what a slave lives like, just with more distractions? At a certain point, you're going to have to realize that people don't want to live like slaves. The longer you try to convince them that it's OK that they live like slaves, the more pissed they're going to get at you. Collectivism is already quietly building in America because -- newsflash -- just like last time it had its day, it was a rational response to conditions. I'm glad YOU think that it's okay to work 40 hours a week to rent an apartment with four other people. I'm glad YOU think it's okay to just kinda hope you don't get sick because you'll lose your job AND have to pay for the ridiculous medical bills. You're going to have to recognize that people ARE actually okay with this because our society and culture conditions them to be. Rhetoric like yours is drawing from that cultural bank, spending cash on selling the lie that this is just "the invisible hand" instead of a consciously chosen and endorsed dynamic. The bank you're pulling from doesn't have infinite reserves. To put it just one other way: you're pulling a slingshot back right now. Every day people struggle is another day you're pulling back the slingshot. Eventually, it's gonna release. At this point, it's just a matter of how far back you let it pull back before it does. I suggest you accept higher taxes and fund social safety net services.
>>533980384No one should get sick.No one should die.No one should be ugly.Anything else you want make up faggot?
>>533978620No youre dumb, and thusly likely brown. Socialism predates Marx, if you cant understand the significance of that statement again youre dumb and probably brown.
>>533977536How is this level of antibaalism even legally allowed?
>>533980431>who believes in subjugation of their fellow manYou fucking animals literally want business owners to be your slaves that serve you!
>reduce the human population by 96%>labor worth more, wages increase>more land and homes available>less pollution and smog>nature makes a comebackreally only downside is there will be no niggers, which is a good thing
>>533980411it does because you're likely a $50k/yr manual labor retard who hammers nails or drives trucks for a living, sneering at the idea of someone working a similarly low IQ retard job (flipping burgers) making a comparable living.i'll say it again, more slowly and with the goal if your inferior niggerbrain being able to comprehend: what do you do for a living and how much do you make a year?
>>533980452No the government does not need to steal and squander more money faggot.
>>533980452>To put it just one other way: you're pulling a slingshot back right now. Every day people struggle is another day you're pulling back the slingshot. Eventually, it's gonna release. At this point, it's just a matter of how far back you let it pull back before it does.The bums will always lose, you can kill all the rich people you want and you will still lose and be rock bottom.
>>533980038>What anons are complaining about is that those basics arent good enough.Unfortunately, I think there is some truth to this. I still think minimum wage is too low, and its objectively true that wages, including minimum wage, has stagnated for decades while inflation and cost of living has gone up. For those reasons alone I believe minimum wage today is not enough. Minimum wage went to $7.25 back in 2009. You were much better off on that $7.25 back in 2009 than you are in 2026 under a heavily inflated $7.25. All of that being said, there is also an inflated idea of what "minimum standard of living means" by younger generations. It probably means living in a really shitty part of town that you don't want to live in. It probably means no cell phone or an absolute bare minimum one. It means budgeting groceries. Zoomers say "minimum wage should provide minimum living" and I agree, but then they think they included smart phones, laptops, a decent car, etc.
>>533979813>>533979813all the white collars will get eliminated soon, but that means all those people will now be competing for blue collar jobs. Get ready for your 80% pay cut tradie
>>533980452Well my friend, we are vastly overpopulated so that means that every jew has 10,000 goyim slaves. What are you gonna do about it? With a human population above 2 billion it's inevitable.>bitching about living in a nice apartment with other people while doing the bare minimum>millions of people work hard around the world and live in shacks
>>533980587I don't want rich people dead, anon. I want them taxed.
>>533977933You used to be able to pay for college with a summer job. Now those summer jobs for college kids are staffed by fighting-age brown economic migrants.You could afford a modest house and a stay at home wife on a relatively entry-level position.This was all taken from you by boomers who needed RVs.
>>533980510cry more future cuck bleeding out beside his tesla with his pockets ran through
>40 hours a week20. If 20 hours a week doesn't pay to be enough to be a rentoid it's not worth working. 40 hours a week should get you a house with at least a quarter acre lot, or alternatively two people working 20 hours should get you this.>>533979231>The last to goIt's not about this though, it's about supply and demand. When white collar isn't available the number of people competing for blue collar and unskilled spikes, driving down wages massively.Trades actually pay really well now compared to how they will in the future because of this, but if you have years in the field now management jobs will open up for you because of the flood of new workers.Basically they have to go somewhere. White collar will be gradually automated away, along with certain unskilled mcjobs. Blue collar will be the last holdout but it'll be a vastly oversaturated market, driving wages down. Basically imagine competing with mexicans but ALSO competing with an additional 30% of the workforce that was previously white collar.
>>533980651and as we all know taxes go to middle class losers like yourself and not broken niggers and single mothers
>>533980529The answer I gave you is the intrinsic truth of reality. You are flat out making conditions that I have to meet and guess what animal I don't have to do shit! My personal situation does not make your math correct, it is incorrect. I hope you choke to fucking death on your next meal scumbag.
>>533980651THEY ARE TAXED YOU FUCKIGN CUNT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>533980001You never asked me a question.
>>533980685Cry more you fucking loser, no system is coming to save you.
>>533980732Not commensurate with their wealth. The ballooning debt and massive inequality says otherwise, doesn't it? Reality suggests that rich people aren't taxed enough at all.
>>533980529Even if he fucking tells you honestly you'll just accuse him of lying/say his job is as easy as flipping burgers. If everything is so easy why don't you do it? Why are you flipping burgs when you can make more that double as a carpenter, an alleged retard job according to you?
>>533980705>The answer I gave you is the intrinsic truth of reality. no it's not, as evident by fast food and retail clerk jobs paying a livable wage up until 20-30 years ago. you're taking a modern economic phenomena and claiming it was always like this. are you a mentally retarded nigger?
>>533980511if every nigger, poo, kike and chink were removed from the planet we'd probably be at a cozy 3-4billion probably better to remove muslims while we're at it too. so 1-2 billion world pop.
>>533980791taxes go to niggers, not you.
>>533977719OK then I get to beat you to death because existing isn’t a basic right according to you
>>533979219...If you need a SECOND job, what's the fucking point of having the FIRST job?
>>533977536> Minimum wage should guarantee minimum standard of livingWhy?
>>533980767>no system is coming to save youOn this, at least, he's right -- no one is coming to save us. None of us asked to be born into these conditions, and all of us disadvantaged by it have had no hand in its maintenance or, much less, its creation. But it's on us to organize and fight against the greedy, hateful, spiteful fucks of this world for whom it is not enough that they win but that we all lose. Time's coming.
>>533980814imagine if we removed all of the locust-like humans and terraformed the deserts in Africa and the middle east. we wouldn't even have to go to Mars anymore.
>>533980347Given that those "minimum" jobs are necessary, yes.
>entry level jobs need to pay better>minimum wage should be able to provide a good lifeand yet you probably vote infinity immigrants to come in, compete for those jobs, push the wage down
>>533979343Niggers aren't human and you don't work in aviation. Next slop post by the jidf.
>>533977736You are literally arguing for slavery on the basis of being a useless white collar slaver instead of someone who actually produces the food that you need to consume to survive. Fuck you and commit suicide.
>>533980901define "a good life" you can survive on minimum wage but probably not support a family. sorry but with the human population at 8.5b we have to compete to reproduce and money can't just feed niggers who shit out kids
>>533980860If you need a worker for a job, then that work needs to eat, live, and exist to do the job in the first place, jew. People aren't just machines who only exist during working hours. If you want someone to flip burgers, they need a place to live and food to eat
>>533977536the real minimum wage will always be zeroraising the minimum wage only makes employers demand higher requirements l>but I wanted to punish employers not workers, why is everyone demanding five years work experience now?
>>533980791Everything out of you subhuman mouths is a lie or manipulation, you said you want them to pay taxes, then when pushed you say what you mean in that you want them to pay more taxes. Why can't you subhuman animals just say what you want? Because you know normal people will not agree and you have to try to trick people. Fucking scumbag.
>>533980767garuntee I've made more in my life already than you will in your entire life. but that's beside the point. I just find it funny people slightly up the totem pole with no real security if the bottom of society gets desperate. You want this, the bottom to suffer because it makes your meager living seem good by comparison. People like you are idiots, you think about economics and security like a woman. Watch people like you get cannibalized by nigger hordes in the future will be enjoyable.
>>533977536the problem with these retards is that they demand the right to live in the most expensive, desirable places in the world off a McDonald's wage. if these narcissists would lower their standards and live in affordable places and debase themselves to actual work this would be solved
>>533980969I don't want anyone flipping burgers I want a machine to do it.
>>533977536minimum wage is the reason we have h1bs, get rid of it
>>533980810Yes, you cannot read fuckign spic nigger subhuman animal! POINTING OUT THAT IT IS NOT RELEVENT WHAT I DO IS AN INTRSINIC TRUTH OF REALITY DIE
>>533980901Easy fix: raise minimum wage every quarter and print new money only at the targeted rate of inflation. Prices will rise, sure, but eventually equilibrium must be reached. Combined with higher marginal taxes on the highest earners, we can create a new American golden age.
you cant afford your eating habits but a habit is a habit you just happen to also lack discipline and just eat your money away, adult humans should not be eating on consecutive days, especially woman, unless carrying for child/breastfeeding
>>533981052>NTRSINIC TRUTH OF REALITYit's obvious you're an 80 IQ retard who communicates without understanding. you string together memeic phrases that sound impressive to an underdeveloped mind, yet sound like retarded gibberish to anyone who has a reasonable grasp of the written word. what do you do for a living and how much do you make a year?
>>533980888Yes, its coming for you! You will have to grow up and work for a living no matter what! You are ALWAYS going to be a loser because that is just your nature not an extension of the system.
>>533981070my solution is better: reduce human population, also benefits nature
>>533981012You just make up pure bullshit and insist you are right about it to feel smug and arrogant, your indian is showing big time.
>>533977536Maybe the wages would be more livable if we weren't hellbent on suppressing them with mass migration. Just a wild guess.
>>533980843Right? These people are idiots with no forsight. No garuntee of a living wage for me, no garuntee of me following laws for you. True suburban retards they are, especially the canadian ones who cant even carry a gun.
>>533981004Yep. My bad if that was unclear. Higher marginal taxes, overhauled tax code (no more manual filing -- everything handled automatically at the banks) and taxes on borrowing against assets above ~1m yearly. That's what I mean by tax the rich... roughly.
>>533981112ITS NOT RELEVENT get it though your fucking head or give me an address where we can meet and I can tell your subhuman nigger ass in person.
>>533981213Okay, what would change by the criminal government stealing more money?
>>533981131>ad hominemI work pretty hard, actually. I'm working two jobs right now. I like working. I'm happiest when I'm working. Thanks for asking. My point has nothing to do with any of this but instead with the construction of an equitable society for all Americans. Maybe you have a different goal?
>>533981342>with the construction of an equitable society for all AmericansThere are no Americans now you dishonest fuck!
>>533981269We could move to single-payer healthcare, reinvest in education, and subsidize the creation of new housing, for example. We could fund new nuclear power plants for cheaper energy. Just some ideas.
>>533981213>government brings in more taxes>local population hordes more money>government gives tax income to niggers they invite into the country who act as outlets for the native population's cashGDP and human population must rise. we live in a giant ponzi aka HELL and this is the main driving force.
>>533981181bro even without migration they wouldnt let us livewe are only cattle
>>533981180truth hurts, idiot, i hope you get the future you are advocating for
>>533981133there will never be a mass culling but it will reduce itself over time. it's only been a little over 100 years since the industrial revolution. our population only increased so dramatically due to this (mainly the discovery of oil).once oil becomes more expensive, the population will start dropping one way or another.
>>533980511its literally happening right now, at least in first world countries almost everyone is below replacement. Yet for some reason, muh birthrate is a big issue now.>>533980529remember when covid hit and all the "non essential" "high iq" jobs were cancelled for like 2 months and literally nothing happened?
How do I get a bitch to move into my parent's house? That would motivate me to go back to wageslaving instead of neeting. Just want a gf.
>>533977536Just stop working bro. You weren't going to get paid any real money anyways.
>>533981417Sigh.......
>>533981181Guess we'll never know since the President who ran and won on stopping illegal immigration changed his mind once he got into office and talked to all of his hotel buddies about they need that 3rd world slave labor to keep their housekeeping positions staffed. It's all corrupt and government only cares about big business
>>533980456Wages should keep up with inflation, and they dont. You had all this in the past you know. Your parents bought a house from a gas station job
>>533981517yes, but I wish I wasn't living in the most overpopulated time in human history because I feel there is a serious lack of opportunity. everything is so oversaturated and short-term thinking dominates.>>533981523>its literally happening right now, at least in first world countries almost everyone is below replacement. Yet for some reason, muh birthrate is a big issue now.Yeah and they just mass import niggers who have 6 kids each in their home countries because we feed them. The rat race must continue until the sun burns out and nature ceases to exist
>>533981456You just made up a bunch of bullshit! How the fuck is that truth?
>>533981456I don;t have to wish anything on you because you already get everything you deserve.
>>533981621Sorry but with the human population above 8.5 billion inflation is the only thing keeping niggers from having abortions instead of 8 kids each
>>533981456Why do you insist on staying at the bottom? If you're the big smart man you claim to be why do you get some quick & cheap training for something that requires an adult skillset? There's loads of professions out there that don't even require 1 year training.
>>533981621>Wages should keep up with inflationThat is not what defines the value of labor.
>>533977736All jews like you should be frie cooked.
>>533981614Yup. This shit is happening. Blame boomers. At any point over the last twenty years or so, we could have bailed out the working and middle classes instead of continuously cutting taxes and pumping the stock market. This was not the world they chose for us. The future is democratic socialist. And if people like me have our way, moving to Dubai isn't going to save your assets.
>>533981620What should the government care about? Racial group A warring against racial group B or racial group C warring against racial group A. WHY CAN'T YOU FAGGOTS DEAL WITH THE REAL WORLD!!!!?!11!??!!
>>533977736Yes you dumb faggot. You think you're immune to this shit because you're an office drone but your job is coming to end soon. >inb4 I'm a blue collar tradesman!good job, but nobody cares because undocumented Juan from El Salvador can do it cheaper.
>>533981665hey i may be broke, but atleast im actually white and my gf is most likely way out of your leagueenjoy being a spiritual kike you fucking idiot
>>533977536>Socialist promises a thing>People fall for it and vote socialists into power>Now the people anxiously await their 'living wage' and 'work with dignity.'>People act surprised when forced to work at the barrel of a gun by their socialist masters.
>>533981773>my tax money goes directly to niggers and single mothers>this isn't socialismwhat do you propose?
>>533977536The concept only makes sense when inflation isn't out the ass.
>>533981773No, muh age is not the cause of anything and no you will never win. The bums will always lose. No government is going to make you a winner or provide you with a middle class lifestyle.
>>533981863inflation is the only force keeping people from having 10 kids each and killing the Earth's ability to produce food
>>533981721I don't plan on staying at the bottom. My whole tirade was just at idiots who think its smart to have the bottom of society miserable and unable to afford to live, while they themselves live in ungated communities. Their ego blinds them from the harsh realities to come.
>>533981805Why are you so obsessed with trying to be above others?
>>533981920>My whole tirade was just at idiots who think its smart to have the bottom of society miserable and unable to afford to live,You are just making up what you think people think to attack them and feel right. The most basic levels of low IQ feminized behavior.
>>533981923ok now i know youre just trolling to some degreefuck you
>>533980674>You could afford a modest house and a stay at home wife on a relatively entry-level position.Yeah. On television.In real life you couldn't.
>>533981990NO FUCK YOU! You are the scumbag here not me.
>>533981888You sound scared. Better hope Mamdani starts failing some time VERY soon. Now that I think about it... you might not be scared enough.
>>533982069LOL you live in a fantasy world kid.
>>533981778>Racial group A warring against racial group B or racial group C warring against racial group A.Seems like a reasonable thing to care about, honestly. Call me crazy, but I'd prefer to live in the country of my parents' where you didn't have to worry about ethnic or sectarian strife.
>>533977536minimum wage only exists in a multi racial economic zone.in an ethnostate, minimum wage would never need to exist, because labor value would be absolute.
>>533977536>one ful-time job should cover rent, food, and healthcaredepends on the full-time job and how much value is produced from it. some jobs don't produce anything of significant value, which means you shouldn't seek jobs like that, let alone make a career out of them. some people are retarded though and put themselves in that situation.the solution, as always, is TKD.
>>533977719Do you have a right to breathe? Do you have a right to sleep? Do you have a right to consume purified potable water? Or do you have an obligation to? The bottom line is Humanity depends on each other for its survival.
>>533981731"labor" means nothing when there are too many people in the first place
>>533977536True. You can suck off the rich all you want, but a nine-to-five is more than adequate, when it comes to what one's own society should be allowed to expect of you.
>>533982161The point is that there is nothing for the government to serve or make better, you have to have a nation for that.
>>533981911Doubt that. Fertility rates were trending down long before inflation blew up
>>533977736>The goal has always been to elevate yourself above entry level positions.No it hasn't. Two hundred years ago, 99 percent of people had zero education and still expected and demanded enough to raise a family off of.
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>>533981911No retard, it's women getting educated and working. There is a direct negative correlation between those two factors and fertility rates. It happens all over the planet and in all cultures/religions.
>>533977536>Minimum wage should guarantee minimum standard of living and yet it doesn't.It will never happen OP.The truth is Americans could have livable wages tomorrow. Simply buy American made products and support American jobs, but not Americans will do that because they like cheap products which are made in China, Cambodia, Laos, Mexico, etc.Your problems is human beings are selfish.
>>533981778>What should the government care aboutIs this a real question? The government should care about its citizens. That's pretty much the only thing government should care about. And in this case, "caring for its citizens" means "not being complicit in allowing illegal immigrants to enter and stay in the US to artificially suppress wages to the direct benefit of wealthy elites and the detriment of everyone else." Pretty simple and clear.
>>533977536What I truly don't understand about Humanity, is that we have the ability to raise the standard of living for every single person on the planet, but we just choose not too. When we were Hunter gatherers, that was the hard part. Today we can replace a large majority of humans with machines which would technically a free a human to receive the benefits of the output, but people still want to participate in the monopoly board and believe they absolutely need to buy the Boardwalk instead of enjoying it for an afternoon. Knowledge is completely free. There's no reason why basic human needs can't be met in 2026.
Not paying workers fairly is a sin that cries out to heaven for vengeance. It is so grave an offense that it warrants death. Remember tht, God hates it when you take advantage of workers
Its fucking astounding how the vast majority of people cheering on slave tier minimum wage are the fucking boomers who all made bank off it when they were youngMost disgusting worthless parasite generation to ever exist. Worse than niggers and jews combined
>>533977865I'm sure many have said man can't take to the skies as well.
>>533982579If you want higher wages, you should have the courage to say so directly. So much of the modern right is a Rube Goldberg machine whose goal is to mitigate the disastrous effects of capitalism without admitting to yourselves you're unhappy with the disastrous effects of capitalism. It's time to be honest with yourself and ask for what you want instead of some tortured and impossible sequence of events which you think will result in what you want.
>>533978117Laughable take. So someone who has spent years honing some skill and making themselves invaluable to the operation of a business should be treated and compensated the same as a kid who has been cleaning the toilets (crappily) for 3 months and couldn’t care less if he got fired tomorrow? Have you ever had a job? Where’s the incentive?
I could get someone to agree with me that minimum wage is not the answer. But that same person would likely say profit maximizing healthcare and real estate being back by the federal government as an investment asset class are both examples of the "free market" and cannot be changed, lest we transition to communism.
>>533977536>The system is failingYeah, it's called letting 100 million shitskins into your country.
>>533977536This requires no immigration sweetie. Also kicking out all existing beaners and pajeets.
>>533981523>remember when covid hit and all the "non essential" "high iq" jobs were cancelled for like 2 monthsno, because were all working from home. i'm still working from home.
>>533982882Half the people in this country should be broke starving slaves because it makes you feel better about being some blue collar faggot?
>>533982847I'm not against anyone "asking" for a raise, but you're naive if you think the solution is that simple. You can ask your boss for a raise all day long, but if there are a dozen immigrants (not just farm workers and housekeepers making minimum wage - think H1Bs and imported workers) willing to do your job for less, then not only will you not get a raise, you'll probably get replaced by someone who will do it cheaper. This is very much a problem with an oversupply of labor and it's very much intentional. Business owners want the oversupply to keep wages low and government is literally helping them to do it
>>53397753616 hr x 40 is 640 weekly, I think you could barely get by in most places on $2100 monthly. You get 1K rent 600 food, 200car200insurance. 100 clothing or miscellaneous. The problem is that its not a nice life. It seems overly punishing because you aren't lucky to get all the college degrees or trade skills. Also the bigger problem is good luck getting 40 hours a week at any minimum wage job so you need to work two jobs pretty much.Only way out of this situation is getting into big debt and learning HVAC or plumbing.
>>533982847>just outcompete the entire third world who are all happy to earn a fraction as much as you bro
>>533977536You are fools. Universal High Income (with robots doing labor) is the only solution apart from a Star Trek economy.
>>533983518>You are fools.If you believe in UBI, you aren't that bright either.
>>533977536How come leftists obsess over jobs not being able to provide a high quality of living but also at same time support everything that is causing the downfall of living standards
>>533983184This. Not everyone needs to be a plumber. The fact that we can specialize in something and have a form of interdependence is the key. The resources and access to knowledge is distributed to a small few who have the power to withhold from the masses. Educated people aren't thinking about "minimum wage". They're reimagining technology to make life better. If shit were to hit the fan, and society is suddenly reduced to a few hundred million people, EVERYONE suddenly becomes irreplaceable and highly valuable because they have a potential in whatever capacity to rebuild the planet and we'll need all the help we can get. An electrician will eventually need a doctor, and a doctor will eventually need an electrician and both of them will eventually need a farmer. Social stratification and class warfare over who has the bigger home between the 3 of them, is just retarded. Highly retarded in fact.
>>533983831how come leftists hate being gay with there dad???
>>533977736> Unskilled menial labor has always been produced an unreliable hand to mouth existence. Why my great grandpa able to support a family of 5 working basic wage factory job then?
>>533978333It is actually insane ], even though America has fallen far from its prime it is still by comparison to places like Canada and absolute goldmine. In America I could afford an acreage and big home. In Canada I live with my parents
>>533983831>How come leftists obsess over jobsAI said it is because libtards see it as a "mechanism of power" not a job. Total Marxist bullshit for brains take.
>>533982298not really, the baby boomers (known for baby-booming) had lots of kids before inflation spiked. inflation is a reaction to too-high births.>>533982520not really, cultures who produce their own food still have high birthrates IE mormons and amish. inflation is reaction to high births.
>>533977536No lol Get a job at least you lazy faggot Marxist
>>533983893Basic factory work both then and now isnt an unskilled entry level position. Thats why everyone wanted a factory job.
>>533984084>AI said80 IQ spotted.
>>533984246The irony of telling someone to "get a job" while opposing the very idea that a job should support a minimum standard of living.
>>533984451define a minimum standard of living.
>>533984357I've done the basic factory work, it's almost a walk in and work thing. It's so basic you can just farm it out to third party recruitment.
>>533977719You're digging yourself a deeper grave Thiel.
>>533984451Get a job that is worth something. Moving something from point A to point B , burgers,tacos, people…, isn’t worth much.
>>533980843I didnt design reality, if youre hellbent on sodifying your place as a burden lash out at someone who enforces it
>>533984246what do you do for a living and how much do you make a year? (they never answer this.)
>>533984489Basic food, clothing, shelter, and necessities. I recognize the talking points and I think we're already going to agree that peoples' expectations on minimum standard of living are too high (see my post above) but this anon is outright rejecting the notion even on principle that a minimum wage job should support minimum standard of living.
>>533977536Where can you find a job that will only pay minimum wage these days?Seriously. Jobs that were minimum wage 5 years ago now pay $15+ per hour. Can you find a single listing of a minimum wage job? And if you can, can you find a job that pays more near by with just as little requirements?
>>533977719Say hi to the Jews in Hell for me.
>>533984579If the job isn't "worth anything" then it shouldn't exist. But if it is worth something and you need someone to do it, then that person needs to be able to eat, clothe themselves, and survive. Some of these points have already been addressed multiple times in this thread. You niggers need to read
>>533984729>basic foodso buy rice and oatmeal, literal pennies per day>clothingwalmart, a pair of shirt and pants is like $6>shelterrentoid minimum wage $600/month to share an apartment>necessitiesnah fuck youwe'll round up to $1k per month with insuranceminimum wage will pay for that easily
>>533977719>talking about human rights when you’re really trying to argue against scarcity There is abundance. We are also humans. Not animals. We are above nature. We control nature. We change the environment. We do not let nature dictate our realities. Human rights are not natural. So they shouldn’t consider nature. I will rape the very earth for even a semblance of comfort and kill countless animals from useful and majestic or useless and disgusting like you. I can’t even compare you to a caveman because they understood what society was you fucking filthy beast. And no I ain’t advocating for feeding all the Indians and Africans. Those ain’t people. They should be treated as an invasive species.
>>533984932>we shouldn't consider nature at all>human population must continue to increase exponentiallyI hate you and people like you.
>>533977536more mayo vermin lies. everyone is so sick and tired of the white devil plague, always lying, cheating, stealing, and killing. can't even get meat without fucking a third of it being injected with water so it weighs more or buy a bag of chips and it's only 1/3 full of fucking blue eyed devils fucking everything up, vomiting all over it, shitting it out, and then eating it back up and then selling it to everyone. . now these blue eyed white demons are adding more ethanol so it fucks everyone's engines so they can spend more money at the mechanic
>>533983236What, you think I'm talking about asking your boss for a raise? Fuck off with that shit. I am talking about the only two things that actually give employees any power whatsoever: >high minimum wage>strong unionsIf you're trying to fix low wages with LITERALLY anything else, you're lying to yourself.
>>533985218what about a massive population decrease
>>533977536The government can't wave a magic wand and make low-skilled labor more valuable than it is. Labor is a market like everything else
>>533984176Mormons and Amish also aren't encouraging their women to waste their entire fertility window getting a meme degree then doing some Jewish daycare job while whoring around in Chad's harem
>>533983835>Social stratification and class warfare over who has the bigger home between the 3 of them, is just retarded. Highly retarded in fact.I agree if your conclusion from this is something like:>therefore everyone should earn enough to live comfortablyinstead of>therefore broke people should continue to live as economic serfs
>>533985006You just created the dumbest strawman ever. I even said don’t feed the niggers and Indians or could you not even finish the post you fucking retard? I definitely vote for you not being giving any hand outs. Hope nature takes care of your ass. I’m a conservationist by the way. If people ain’t worried about starving most won’t be worried about getting more and more to earn more and more harvesting the resources of this earth for infinite growth. You’re so fucking stupid you’re supporting that infinite growth and the raping of the very earth itself by being so fucking dumb
>>533985396>The government can't wave a magic wand and make low-skilled labor more valuable than it isHave you ever heard of the concept of MINIMUM WAGE? How about LABOR UNIONS? Either of these things ringing a bell for you?
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>>533982012Yeah all those rust belt factory towns were full of homeless people, sad right
>>533985396Yes they can. What do you think made labor worthless? Perhaps importing tens of millions of thirdies and outsourcing our industry/manufacturing? This wasn't some unstoppable act of God or nature. It was the government and corporations working together to drive down the value of labor.
>>533977719In the peasantry days 40 hours of work would mean you're making lods of dosh since most fucks worked less than 4 hours a day and still had food and roof over their head.We're unironically worse off.
>>533977536You have only one right: to workDedicate whatever you do to GodThis way the things you do will become worship
>>533980860>look at what token niggerman says!!!Not gonna work Mises Institute
>>533977736So why do you expect anyone to do fast food service jobs if they don’t pay enough for the workers to survive? You’re essentially asking for these services to no longer exist.
>>533985730DELETE THIS NOW!!! SHE IS THE FUCKING SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE OR SOME SHIT!
>>533979798>repeating the question will make it relevant somehowStill irrelevant, sorry you work a zero skill job champ
>>533982579This is illegitimate stolen land so there is no such things as citizens now. You don't have to agree, that is what society is now. There is no nation with a people to serve. You want things that can no longer work.
>>5339775364 years of minimum wage should be able to buy you a house. Minimum wage should be at least 50k yr, or housing needs to come down. It's time for a controlled economy. Kike hike fest is over.
>>533983184>Half the people in this country should be broke starving slaves becauseWhy do your subhuman sorry ass think that half the country works for minimum wage/
>>533980612Minimum effort gets you minimum wageThis fact with make wagies seethe
>>533977736The minimum wage in 1964 was $1.25 That's 5 silver quarters or .9 ounces of silver an hour That's 67.53 an hour in today's dollarsWhy did a baby boomer in 1964 deserve 67.53 an hour for flipping burgers but a kid today doesn't?
>>533986719No, it shouldn't. Minimum wagies are less than human and don't deserve homes.
>>533983893Because he lived in his nation with his people.We don't have that now.
>>533986711see here. >>533978850 i make $150k and wfh as an accountant. what do you do for a living and how much do you make a year?
>>533984489They can't. Each and everyone of them will say its something different.
>>533977536Each poor piece of subhuman shit deserves to suffer, because they refuse to better themselves.
>>533984690That is because the question is not relevant, you are simply wrong.Why can't you get this though your shit head?
>>533977736A McDonald's worker in 1970 had significantly more buying power than a McDonald's worker today. That's the point. We're talking about a time when you could buy a 2 bedroom house for $20k, and a weeks worth of groceries for $5. Bring prices down or match wages to inflation.. simple as. Kike ponzi scheme is over.YWNBAB (You will never be a billionaire)
>>533984806You should not exist.
>>533985047Nice try, everyone sees your bait.
>>533986829I love when you fuckers break out the ol` X was worth X in 1329. It was never worth anything mother fucker. It was dont demand what you cant take by force. Everything is fake except force
>>533986912the question is relevant. you're likely a lower middle class manual labor retard desperate to create a hierarchy, so you create nonsensical distinctions between "real" retard work (your job driving trucks or hammering nails or whatever) and "not real" retard work (fast food or whatever.) you still haven't answered the questions.
>>533986863>still can't stay on topicI'm sorry you can't refute the fact that no skill jobs don't deserve more moneyI could be a dishwasher, I could be a CEO; how much I make is irrelevant to the fact that skilless labor is a real thing and that's why they don't make anything.
>>533987088>unskilled laborwhat is your skill? what do you do for a living and how much do you make a year? i'm betting it's no more complex than flipping burgers and pushing boxes around a warehouse.
>>533977865>KikenomicsftfyYou're defending people who don't care about you, anon. Stop.
>>533987225How is pushing a box a skill? If you can teach something in a shift or two, it is not a real skill.
>>533977536This assumes you have a world of ethnostates, not countries. A world where the nation is just an extended family of the tribe and on the same team as a result. But that's not our reality, which is one of economic zones of individuals in a free for all, anarcho tyranny.
>>533987031You just keep repeating nonsense YOU MADE UP.Why can't you get that your personal FEELINGS don't equate to reality?
>>533986717You wait until we hit bump limit to go full schizo and start pulling the "stolen land all of this is illegitimate" bullshit? Haha I wish you had done that an hour or two ago. Now all I can do is call you a retard.
>>533987031>you're likely a lower middle class manual labor retard desperate to create a hierarchy, so you create nonsensical distinctions between "real" retard workMAKING UP BULLSHIT to feel right about.Your knee caps should be broken.
>>533987013good goy
>>533986777Makes business owners seethe more since they expect everyone to always gi above and beyond for minimum pay
>>533986837Tbf, goyim in general don't deserve anything, but here we are... It's all so tiring Why can't the goyim just shut up and take it..?
>>533987295that's my point.>>533987339what feelings? i objectively make more money than you. what do you do for a living and how much do you make a year? i currently $150k. i'm actually interviewing for a job next week that pays $180k + 20%.
>>533987350I don;t have to do anything, that is the reality that has been forced onto us.
>>533987429They're not the ones starving and dying from muh healthcare, cope peasant.
>>533987386what do you do for a living and how much do you make a year?
>>533977736Yes. Skilled labor should pay you above subsistence, but bottom tier labor should guarantee it. This has been one of the main labor cost reductions the Jews love. Subsidize immigrants and poors with welfare then cut wages. EVERYONE should be paid more. If your business can’t survive without infinity Indian slaves then your business shouldn’t exist!
>>533987458>what feelings?The very ones you keep stating! You are fucking dumb!
>>533987491Its not relevant, you are wrong.
>>533977779>cannot solve that problemJew detected. It is the only solution other than violence.
>>533987031>My computer job is real and your manual job isn'tYou're both wrong. All jobs are real. All jobs deserve a living wage. All wages should be increased to match inflation. Billionaires might not actually have a right to exist.
>>533987487okay kike
>>533987449Poor people aren't goyium, they're subhuman tools of the jews to enact their bullshit. Thats why poor people are garbage, they're retarded and lazy.>>533987458>my point is to agree with you that unskilled labor isn't worth paying wellThanks for finally seeing the truth.
>>533978056Those people have names and addresses. Luigi brought down prices with one weird trick. So can we.
>>533987609>All jobs deserve a living wageDeserve something none of you can even define. God damn feminized clowns.
>>533987503>>533987538hat do you do for a living and how much do you make a year?notice how they never answer this. they dance around the question, there MUST be a hierarchy that elevates their position and subjugates another's position. their job isn't REAL WORK and it's not a REAL SKILL.whatever it is you do -- it's some sort of manual labor, i'm sure of it -- just know that people like me view you just the same as a nigger running the deep fryer at mcdonalds. the difference is that i think all work should pay a livable wage, regardless of the status.
>>533987630>gimme more money>no ur a jew for not giving me moneyOkay Jew, sorry I won't give you more shekels
>>533987657>Luigi brought down prices with one weird trickHe did nothing but kill ONE OF US. Someone that worked their way from the bottom to the top, of course you all hate successful people.
>>533987609Jobs deserve to be paid what they're worth. That's why they do. Sorry you're angry someone was more successful than you.
>>533978507>free marketThis has never been a thing. The government can add or subtract money to the system at will to influence the market. Keynesians and Bayesians both need to be crucified and shot.
>>533987677>there MUST be a hierarchy that elevates their position and subjugates another's position. their job isn't REAL WORK and it's not a REAL SKILL.This is that feelings shit I am talking about. You just keep making up untrue nonsense to feel right about. YOU ARE WRONG and you are such a fucking faggot that needs his skull caved in that you cannot just admit it DIE DIE DIEThe difference is you are a subhuman fuckign animal that needs to be removed.
>>533987831>you are such a fucking faggot that needs his skull caved in that you cannot just admit it DIE DIE DIE>you are a subhuman fuckign animal that needs to be removed.you're not going to do any such thing, obese manual labor loser.
>>533978948These jobs are subsidized by welfare and other disbursements to immigrants, legal or not.
>>533977536>AYO SHIEEET MAYNE IF YOU WORK 40 HOURS, MINIMUM WAGE SHOULD PAY ENOUGH FOR HOUSING AND FOOD SHIIIEEEEET>*advocates for replacement labor and endless illegal immigration that will compete for lower wages*why are leftoids like this?
>>533979149Business CEOs have names and addresses; they are very willing to lower prices when the right Luigi takes them to the Minus World
>>533979228Let’s get people to split a Happy Meal too while they’re at it! Luigi would like a word.
>>533980510Let’s be Keynesian here: more wages paid out means more GDP? Why do you not want to raise GDP?Idiot.
>>533988087Yes we get you want to kill everyone that has more than you or is successful. That is why you have to hide away because decent people would remove you ass from this earth.
>>533977536>shouldCentral Banking 'should' not exist... end yet it does.What is your point?
>>533988087I'm gonna jerk off when he gets executed
>>533977736If work cannot sustain life, then there is no reason to work these jobs, might as well clock out and become a NEET, get a pretty penny from the state
>>533981012>garunteeYokel.
>>533981638>overpopulatedYou mean over-immigrated.
>>533978495>deservethat's a word adult use for childreninfantilization of society is why scammers can easily manipulate adults... who don't do due diligence when scammers promise them "free stuff"
>>533982882>he really believes that CEOing is a skill
>>533988364I'm talking on a global level
>>533987295How is CEOing a real job? I could eat steaks with investors every day too.
>>533987730CEOs are “us” now? LOL isn’t risk taking their job? Risk lowering wages and see what you get.
>>533988208And you want to enslave everyone who has less than you. Violence keeps this in check.
>>533988451What do you care what some Afghan earns?
>>533977865Economics says we should bring in all Pakistan to do the dirty work. The more you consult with the harlot of rationalist commerce, the more your social syphilis worsens
>>533988537They're responsible for more money and people than you'll ever meet wagie, go seethe some more champ. Then kill yourself.
>>533988638I'd reduce wages 50% if I could, wagies deserve to suffer. I hate you and I hate them, subhuman garbage.
