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if you chose red you don't deserve to live in a high trust society
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there is literally no reason to press blue
if you press blue you are taking a risk that you might die
the ONLY way anybody dies is if at least one person presses blue
pressing blue is evil but it sounds altruistic
this says a lot about our society
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>>533980268
If you chose red, you would live in a high trust society.
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>>533980268
Mental scars don't heal anon, bye.
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>>533980376
if you press red you might kill off half your family.
blue would win easily if this was real.
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If you pick blue, you are retarded. It's just virtue signaling.
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>>533980268
If people knew life really depended on it, they would read it a lot closer.
It's flawed because that side doesn't lose anything. Upon a keen reading most people would see "you literally cannot die if u press red"
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>>533980268
http://reichandlowentherapy.org/Content/Character/Oral/oral_communicator.html

The inclination of the oral is to find out 'the right thing to do' and do it. Therefore the oral is capable of greatly moral or pro-social acts. But implementing good ideas may be difficult. There is a tendency for orals to focus intensely on their intentions and plans, past and present, and treat results as fairly inconsequential or the responsibility of others. Ideas are untested in the world, and while that idealism may sometimes bear fruit, often naive and unrealistic positions remain. The 'way things should be' is much more important than 'the way things almost always are.' This can lead the oral to be at odds with instinctual tendencies in others and society that prevent 'things from being the way they should be'.

Large abstract global causes may be championed, with no real demands on the ego, but smaller specific injustices to specific known people closer to home may be unopposed because the ego strength is not present for an actual fight. They often champion the cause of under-dogs and minorities, idealizing those with little power. This comes from the feeling of having been deprived and cheated, which is repressed and projected onto others. It is sometimes said that orals dislike the people they know, and like the people they don't know.
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>>533980268
The real world is not a jewish false dichotomy, as much as they wish it was
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>>533980268
>high trust means allowing everyone to survive
>remaining in an overpopulated world
Are you sure? The rich would cull all of us if they weren't so scared to live alone.
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>>533980268
>high trust society
no such thing anymore since WW2
now it's all just a playground for jews to swindle ever increasing margins from them goyim, and simultaneously corrupt and destroy the white races in the process
give me Hitler and I will press the blue button you absolute niggerkikefaggot
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>>533980515
Which is why I advocated pouring capri sun all over the buttons as a superior third option
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>>533980463
which is why it's evil
blue introduces death into the equation
if nobody presses blue, nobody dies
the second the first person presses blue, there is a risk of death
by pressing blue you are introducing death
that's it, you are a potential accessory to murder and potentially dead
it is not altruistic to press blue because everyone pressing red means everyone lives anyway
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>>533980376
>there is literally no reason to press blue
Blue is for fart huffing liberals to prove their moral superiority, but only in a hypothetical context. If their lives were actually on the line they'd hammer that red button just like everyone else would.

The entire hypothetical would have been more interesting if there was something to incentivize pressing blue. Money is obvious, but something like you'll never lose a loved one to cancer would be far more interesting.
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Anyone not retarded would vote red and realize everyone can survive without risk if they do vote red
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>>533980268
dumb. you'll survive either way by pressing red. this is simple game theory and any rational person would press red.
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>>533980583
Based third positioner
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>>533980268
I dont live in a high trust society
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>>533980268
>if you chose red you don't deserve to live in a high trust society
If you discuss social media trends in earnest, you don't deserve to live.
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>>533980268
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>>533980268
why does /pol/ consistently fail this hypothetical?
>if you could rape and kill a baby without facing any consequences at all, would you?
>/pol/:OMG YOU WOULD BE A FOOL NOT TO DO IT, THERE IS LITERALLY NO CONSEQUENCE AND YOU ARE SAYING YOU *WOULDN'T* DO IT?!?! MY LOGIC DICTATES THAT YOU MUST DO IT, THERE SIMPLY IS NO CHOICE HERE!
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>>533980268
I don't vote mr. dataminer
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>>533980268
blue-button-pushers
>"Let's work together"
>Establishes partnerships to achieve more than he could alone
>Emotional core: Hope
>Tolerates risk when there is benefit to himself or others
>"I don't want them to suffer like I did."
>Is defeated when deceived into trusting a Red and inevitably betrayed
>Responds poorly to coercion, uses trust and cooperation to overthrow slavers
>Tries to cultivate fellow Blues to create a community
>Willing to risk his own life for the right cause

red-button-pushers:
>"Fuck you, I got mine"
>Pretends to be a Blue while not actually contributing anything
>Emotional core: Contempt
>Pathologically risk-averse
>"I suffered so why shouldn't they?"
>Is defeated when Blues identify him and exclude him from the fruits of their labors
>Can be coerced to contribute - an ideal slave because his paranoia and selfishness prevent him from organizing a rebellion
>Tries to poison others into becoming Reds purely out of spite; knows this will eradicate the structures he depends on to survive; can't help himself
>Thinks anything with a non-zero chance of death is a "suicide cult"
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>>533980595
The opposite is also true, can you not intuit that others would look at blue and deduce a lot of the same reasonings as reds do and feel little to no risk because they think everyone else will press blue so nobody will die?
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>>533980386
You have that backwards. Naive liberal white people press the blue button. They have high trust societis like Sweden, up until they invite in all the red button pushers. Selfish shitskins press the red button. Enlightened ones don't participate at all.
>>533980268
You misinterperet the results. People pressed blue hoping that they get thanos snapped away. something like 60 percent of western women are on antidepressants.
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>>533980661
Is logic your god of choice for today?
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>>533980785
/pol/ is mostly brown
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this is a mathematical literacy test.

pressing red = 0% chance of not surviving
pressing blue = Non-zero chance of not surviving

simple as.

all this proves is that people who, for whatever reason, do not apply math tend to behave like faggots.

...for the record, "faggot" refers not to homosexuals, but rather to people that behave like one twig in a fasces: individually they act in a way that renders them weak, but if they are all BOUND TOGETHER in a bundle (the eponymous "faggot"), they are harder to break.

And faggots are ultimately the twigs that fell from the mighty oak, or spruce, or whatever fucking tree can stand on its own.

Faggots. What a bunch of fucking slaves. Can't we just feed them video games until their populations decrease? We really need to improve the infrastructure of the shithole countries enough to accomplish this.
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>>533980268
babies first prisoner's dilemma
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Also OP should use picrel when he inevitably posts this thread 3,000 more times over the next six months
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>>533980720
Damn I want one now
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>>533980838
but picking blue is the only way anyone can die
picking blue is the only way that I can die
picking blue is the only way that you can die
picking blue is the only way anyone can die
picking blue is evil, every single person who picks blue has blood on their hands
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>>533980980
forgot link
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>>533980827
there is literally no incentive in the prompt to press the blue button. It does not say "if you press the blue button, then there will be world happiness, BUT if not enough people press it then all the blue-button-pushers die". If it said THAT, then you could stand on your little soapbox. But it doesn't. Can you admit that?
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>>533980268
Blue = Lie cheat steal Hate, Manipulate Castrate Destruction apparently their Trust is about going along with that
Red = Honor Create Build Power Truth love maybe Some Rape of a fruitcake but forgiveness
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>>533980661
>any rational person would press red.
a rational man would realize "If red wins then my mom and wife and daughter all die" (which is based but most wont see it that way)
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>>533981009
It's outright only a problem at all if blue is under 50%, everyone with a brain knows somebody is picking blue, if you want to try and eliminate the possibility of people to dying over a stupid button hypothetical you pick blue. If you're indifferent you pick red. It's not more complicated then that
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>>533980785
uhhhh REDditfaggots??? OUR RESPONSE???
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>>533980268
I'M GONNA VOOT
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>private vote
>makes public
Kinda invalidates results
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>>533980268
Mindless, baseless trust is the downfall of society itself.
Always be aware, doubt and think before you trust, act or do anything in life.
This whole thread is retarded, that's how cults are born and jews are winning.
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>>533980268
Wouldn't everyone survive if they all pressed red? Why's it my responsibility to keep retards alive?
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>>533980268
The high trust society you speak of is completely hypothetical and imaginary so who gives a fuck anyway.
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All this does is kill the people that are stupid enough to press blue.
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>>533980827
God will know you chose blue due to pascals wager and not due to actual altruism, and you go to hell anyway.
Loving Jesus to get yourself into heaven is not real love.
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it depends if you can see the voting or not and how much you know about the number of people that voted

if I can't see anything and don't know how many people voted im gonna go with the red

if I can see that many people voted and blue is winning I'm gonna go with the blue to save my fellow retard humans
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>>533980654
In no case is pressing the blue button a rational choice. If we make the question about your concern for "other people" or "humanity" then the next question is about your prior expectation of what button people will press. Say you expect that much greater than 50% will press the blue button. Then it doesn't matter what button you press, but since there is always an infinitesimal chance the blue button leads to your death, you should press the red button. Say you expect around 50% to press the blue button. Then it's far too dangerous to press the blue button, press the red button. Say you expect it's around 0%, or few people will press the blue button. In this case it's clear that the blue button is a suicide pact and you must press the red button. It's rational to press the red button in all three possible cases for your prior expectation.

I also like the framing of this problem as on where the red pill is a sugar pill, and the blue pill is a poison pill, and if more than 50% of the population takes it, then an antidote will be provided. The leftist mind is a thing that exists. It may be half brainwashing and half genetic: but the moral circle heat map, that shows leftists care less about their own family than the universe at large, is an absolute indictment of that way of thinking.

Moral circles: “the circle of people or other entities in which you are concerned about right and wrong done toward them”
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>>533980268
Red is high trust. I trust my kinsmen to push the red button. I know that they can save themselves and thus won't need me risking my life.
Blue is low trust. It means that you don't trust your kinsmen to be smart enough to push the right button, and you then expect everyone else to jump in and save you under the threat of violence and social stigma. That's why you always see bluetards post things like "better hope we don't find out that you voted red", "we will lynch all red voters" and "what if everyone could see that you voted red, would that change your vote?" etc.
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>>533980268
I haven't seen one argument for blue that is convincing.
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>>533981389
>Why's it my responsibility to keep retards alive?
that's actually a fairly decent way of putting it.

Press "blue" if you think that people that don't know anything about the choices they make should be prevented from killing themselves.

Paradoxically, if you choose blue, you're saying that no one's choices should have anything to do with their ability to survive.

This makes me want an "I Pressed Red" tshirt.
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>>533980654
Tell them that pressing red plays an audio clip that says NIGGER or something like that to trigger their retarded feelings
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>>533980962
What makes you think survival is a metric?
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>>533980268
I don't live in a high trust society because the blues keep importing niggers and jeets into it.
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>>533980268
Where's the button to blow up everyone
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>>533980654
>The entire hypothetical would have been more interesting if there was something to incentivize pressing blue.
It's an incredibly interesting hypothetical *because* there is no incentive to press blue. It's showing us everyone that is performative.
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this dogshit psyop has revealed a lot about a bunch of collectivists
they're essentially taking risks on a 0-risk situation because of optics
this makes the case that they should die
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Think of it like this.
>If you press the blue button you have to hold a gun to your own head.
>If less than 50% of people vote blue the gun goes off.
>Red button pushers simply don't pick up the gun in the first place.

Blue voters are the ones who brought death and danger into the situation in the first place. Then they try to blame others for the predicament the voluntarily got themselves into because they are virtue signalling faggots who want to pretend they are better people.
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>>533980268
Red is the rational option. Pressing it guarantees you don't die, and anyone else also thinking rationally will press it too. If everyone is rational then nobody will die.
Also some people might genuinely want to die, we can leave the blue button for them. Everyone's happy.
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it's basically Gesinnungsethik vs Verantwortungsethik. No idea what the proper translations would be.
if you believe in personal responsibility, red is the objectively correct choice. if some people die because they decided to press blue, that is on them for being blinded by their ideology instead of thinking about it for a couple seconds.
blue is the libshit choice where you pretend you need to be a hero who needs to save the poor victim 24/7, only that in this case, the victim did not even exist at all until you decided to be the hero and put yourself at risk, so now there's a conga-line of people running into the burning building one after another, all believing themselves to be the hero only to immediately become the victim.

the most interesting aspect of it is how each faction argues.
red tries to point out to blue that pressing red is the objectively correct choice, because only blue even introduces any risk at all. they are acting in an altruistic way, wasting their time trying to prevent their fellow men from self-harm.
meanwhile, blue tends to fantasize about what tortures they will inflict upon red after blue has won, all while calling themselves the altruistic group.
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>>533980268
If this really happened, I would spread images like this everywhere to reframe the question without changing the rules and cause all blue voters to die.
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>>533981615
It's white savior complex. No nigger is gonna press the blue button. Just whites who think they need to coddle niggers like helpless babies. No matter how racist I've been in my life, it doesn't compare to a white woman thinking niggers are so stupid that she needs to take care of them. They basically see them as pets. Every white woman would press the blue button.
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>>533980268
Why did this mindbreak chuds so hard?
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>>533981677
>What makes you think survival is a metric?
...it's the metric that the prompt uses. The prompt ONLY includes survival. There is NO OTHER METRIC.

Here's an example of how the prompt could be changed:

If you press blue, then if less then 50% of people press blue you die, but if more than 50% of people press blue then all the people who didn't press blue die but all the people who pressed blue will be happy forever.

If you press red, then you don't die, even if more than 50% of people pressed blue.

THEN you could frame this as an exercise in contrarianism or individual agency or the nature of happiness (is "bestowed" happiness preferable to "self-achieved" happiness?)
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cope commie
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>>533980268
Blue talks about who deserves to live in a high trust society.
Red creates them.
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>>533981953
Because it is fucking scary how retarded normies are.
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>>533980654
He’s right.
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>>533980595
>if nobody presses blue, nobody dies
this statement would be equally true if you replaced blue with red. your logic doesn't logic.
except if blue wins everybody survives instead of just reds.
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>>533981953
Intelligent people enjoy thinking about hypothetical scenarios and arriving at the right answer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbAyPFRmQFY
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>>533981873
>it's basically Gesinnungsethik vs Verantwortungsethik
It would have been, if only the people who participated in this game, had their vote count. But the fundamental problem of this game is that blue voters need to convince >50% of the entire world to participate in their death game. Imagine if also alien life participated.

To sum it up. Blue voters are fooled, because of the framing of the question and think it's a prisoner's dilemma type situation, when it isn't. In reality it's a test to see if you are irrational enough to risk your life, because of how a question is framed.
Another poll has shown that people would overhelmingly press a "green button", which just lets you not participate, even though blue voters would still need their vote.

So it's not even a moral question. Just an intelligence and attitude question to see if you fall for framing or if you can detect the objective truth behind statements.
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>>533981944
>Every white woman would press the blue button.
...this has sadly been true of all the white women I have shown this to. It feels a bit like falling through the floor...
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>>533981953
it reveals that they are sociopaths incapable of living in a high trust society where you think about the well being of your neighbor you can see in this very thread is all about me me me well i get to live so fuck everybody else
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>>533982043
>sociopaths create high-trust societies
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>>533982091
The point is that in all three possibilities for your prior expectation, it makes sense to press red. Say you expect that much greater than 50% will press the blue button. Then it doesn't matter what button you press, but since there is always an infinitesimal chance the blue button leads to your death, you should press the red button. Say you expect around 50% to press the blue button. Then it's far too dangerous to press the blue button, press the red button. Say you expect it's around 0%, or few people will press the blue button. In this case it's clear that the blue button is a suicide pact and you must press the red button. QED
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If not enough people push red and let the blue people die, you could very well lose useful people like scientists who pushed blue. It’s pretty stupid to say “anyone who doesn’t agree with my choice of button must’ve been worthless and deserved to die.” Everybody pushing blue is the best option for humanity as a whole.
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>>533981237
>It's outright only a problem at all if blue is ever pressed
Fixed. We need to teach people to press the red button
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>>533982203
The only socipaths are the ones hitting a blue suicide pact button so they can preach their virtue.
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>>533981780
>It's showing us everyone that is performative.
It's also showing us everyone who are selfish cowards
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>>533982119
>But the fundamental problem of this game is that blue voters need to convince >50% of the entire world to participate in their death game.
where does it say that?
>Everyone in the world HAS to take a private vote
the premise is that everybody has to vote. not voting is not an option as you imply.
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>>533982119
It's also a good example for what framing can do.
The game can be summed up with
>press red, nothing happens
>press blue and you die unless you can convince 50% of the world's population to also press blue
when you word it like that, it's obviously retarded as shit and even the virtue signalers would probably not defend blue anymore.
but simply by wording it similar to a prison dilemma (despite it not being one), you can easily trick a lot of people into seeing it that way and arguing in favor of introducing death to the game by pressing blue.

not like it matters though. set up the same experiment but with actual consequences and everyone will abandon blue.
Microshit could release a new patch where it shows you two buttons the next time you boot. Press red and nothing happens, press blue and your system gets wiped unless 50% of all other Microsoft users also click it.
basically no one would click blue. basically no one would argue that maybe their granny clicked blue though so now they gotta save her data.
and they sure as hell wouldn't do it if the stakes increased, either.
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I vote Red Everytime
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>>533982296
>everyone who are selfish cowards
Yeah, blue.
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>>533982317
he means voting blue also, 50%+1 need to or all blue folk die
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>>533982121
It's a simple phenomenon. They chose feminism instead of having children so they look for surrogate "children" to fill the void left by lack of motherhood. That's why women are always so vocal about issues. They see the whole if society as being their child they need to take care of. If these bitches had kids, or in my mother's case actually paid attention to them, they would be far less likely to want to baby others.
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>>533982214
we must eliminate altruism from society as a whole. never again will a lesser people take advantage of a greater peoples kindness if the red button is pushed. we'll figure out the sciences without you suicidal empaths, you unironically deserve to die
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>>533982205
you argue as a loner who doesn't care about others.
I have loved ones and want to contribute to them surviving even if I have to risk dying myself.
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>>533982296
You need to phrase it as some kind of voldemort issue when blues are the only people killing anybody
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>>533982317
>where does it say that?


...das steht ja schon in der Frage selbst...
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>>533982214
Wouldn't everyone pressing red have the same effect, retard?
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>>533982043
Post your accomplishments anon.
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>>533982447
Right back to moral circle.
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>>533980268
The cope here from people who picked red is insane. I've been skimming the thread, but the most common cope I see is
>"I have literally no reason not to pick red"
The reason is guilt. It is completely unreasonable to assume everyone will pick red or blue, so by picking red you are guaranteed to be partially responsible for the death of millions. Picking blue, you are risking your life to save others.
Red is selfish, blue is altruistic.

There is literally no argument against this.
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>>533980268
Red out of spite
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>>533980268
>private vote
Ooooof, looks like there's nothing you can do about it. Haha. I'm just not going to tell you what button I push, is all. Hahahahah.
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>>533982380
The game can ALSO be summed up with
>press blue and no one dies
>press red to murder anyone who presses blue
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>>533982470
Where is the flaw in the logic? Which case for prior expectations do you have a problem with? Please explain.
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>>533982556
>I'm responsible for the deaths of millions of retards and foids
Where do I sign up?
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>>533982144
>this very thread is all about me me me well i get to live so fuck everybody else
Wasnt it revealed that most 4chan posters are either israeli agents, or indians subcontracted by israeli agencies? and that /pol/ itself was created by some mossad agent?
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>>533982417
Ah, so it's selfish to cast a vote to try to save everyone despite their choices, and selfless to choose to protect only yourself. Fascinating brain you have there.
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>>533982556
Intentionally joining a suicide pact is not altruistic.You aren't saving people from anything, you just want to virtue signal. In fact, you are creating a fucking problem by pressing blue.
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>>533980583
I will at the least jerk off on both buttons before leaving the voting booth.
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>>533982688
Why would you take it upon yourself to save others from their bad choices? Let them experience the consequences of their actions for a change. Funny how the blue voters are all women with no accountability for themselves.
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>>533982623
the flaw in the logic is that most people don't want to murder half their family by contributing to red winning.
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>>533982380
>press red, be partially responsible for the death of billions unless you can convince 50% of the world's population to vote blue.
FTFY
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>>533982491
The entire point is that a huge swath of people are going to vote blue regardless. Probably many people you know, love, and care about. In no fantasy of yours could you convince all the people you care about to push red. You are a coward, a sociopath, and a murderer.
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>>533982792
We all know the family members that would press it and honestly, it wouldn't be that big of a loss.
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>>533982119
>But the fundamental problem of this game is that blue voters need to convince >50% of the entire world to participate in their death game.
that's not a problem and there's nothing wrong with the original wording of the dilemma because it's designed to oust talmudic jews and their golems. blues are secure in their conscience knowing that any sample size larger than 2 will result in >50% blue winning because most people have utilitarian worldviews and are not sociopaths like the vocal minority on /pol/ pretends to be. it's reds who keep making these threads and spam endless essays trying to absolve their guilty consciences pushing red.
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>>533980376
>there is literally no reason to press blue
Imagine if this task was given only to your friends and family. Would you still pick red? I myself might pick blue in that case because I think my sisters would be retarded enough to pick blue.
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>>533982837
Oh well. Life goes on.
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>>533980376
Pressing Blue is a Whiteness test
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>>533981276
>>I posted the meme again mom! The one where I'm the chad and they're the virgin. lol! I'm so smart!

Go to hell with your blue faggotry. There is no gain to be had for pushing blue except that fact that everyone tht pushes it might die. That sucks for them but its not my job to save everyone from themselves when the red button is right god damn there and no one who presses it will die.

For fucks sake you people are going to kill yourselves and in the effort attempt to take everyone with you and shame those who don't go along with their fucking jim jones bullshit. Drink your koolaid, be happy you did, and then let the rest of us get along with living our lives without your bullshit.
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>>533982682
correct
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>>533982688
>save everyone
From what? They didn't end up in a car accident. They didn't fall off of a boat. I can see helping people when accidents happen,. It's a suicide pact. It's a great hypothetical because there is no reason to press blue unless you want to brag, or die.
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>>533982214
>you could very well lose useful people like scientists who pushed blue
A mediocre scientist that can't logic.
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>>533982517
It’s much easier to convince at least 51% of the population to choose blue than to convince every single human on the planet to push red without exception.
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>>533982121
I showed it to my wife and she can't understand the red button logic and is kind of shocked I would chose red. Women are so fucking ridiculous with their performative suicidal empathy.
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>>533980268
Youre retarded.

Have you heard of the prisoners dilemma? Of course not. Look it up.

Then read this and understand that its the same thing but instead if a choice between maybe both staying quiet and one or both of you ratting on the other, its a choice between definitely living and maybe living. There is no down side at all to pushing red. In the prisoners dilemma if you rat on the other guy he might rat on you too, and thus the question of which is better because if you both rat you both get time. There is no such thing here. Everyone who presses the red button lives. If anyone presses the blue button, they die unless they can convince half of all other people to press "maybe die" along with them instead of "live."

The buttons are
"Live"
And "maybe live"

If you are retarded enough to pusbthe blue button, then you should die. At the very least you shouldn't be allowed to vote.

The red button is the simple obvious choice and the blue button is for suicidal psychopaths.
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>>533980268
But what does pressing red do?
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>>533981398
Fuck off, nigger, it existed. Until jews put a society at gunpoint to accept niggers and the third world immigrants.
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>>533982837
>>533982920
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>>533980463
Ah yes, human beings, famously selfless and noble. Idk what world you live in but 99% of people are complete fucking assholes and selfish cunts. See, I understand why in the bible God is just like fuck it and kills everyone. It's a good thing we die, because pretty much all of use deserve to. Idk what fairytale of delusion you live in.
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>>533982800
They are only dying because they pressed the button to begin with. Blue pressers are fucking insane.
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>>533982746
You lack understanding. Your viewpoint is "every single person must pick red!". It's totally unreasonable to ask for that. People will pick blue.
The difference is that only reds wish death upon those who disagree with them. In this sense, red is the left-wing position.
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>>533980268
>if you choose blue you dont deserve to live
Not my rules just the way the game plays out. Don't hate the player.
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>>533980268
Red all the way
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>>533982931
>kills wife
>doesn't understand why wife thinks you're a retard
lmao
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>>533982438
why is he implying that red is the default choice and you have to convince people to vote blue?
for me blue is the obvious choice and it would easily win.

most people got guilt-tripped into taking an ineffective vaccine against a virus with a 99% survival chance.
compared to that the blue button is a no-brainer.
you don't get hurt by pressing it and it actually works.
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>>533980376
If you factor in “accidental presses” I.e. not everyone participating is a rational actor (infants, dementia etc) then I can see an argument for pressing blue. From a logical standpoint where everyone is a rational actor then red is the only button you should even consider.
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>>533982943
the same thing as blue, but with an added bonus of killing the retarded mass that are too dumb to think for a second and voted blue
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>>533980268
Why would anyone press blue?
>press red
> <50% of people pressed blue
You survive
> >50% of people pressed blue
You survive

>press blue
> <50% of people pressed blue
You survive
> >50% of people pressed blue
You die

You would survive 100% if you press red so why press blue?
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>>533980268
I don't live in a high trust society. It used to be. Not any more.
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>>533982920
red is a murder pact. if red wins the rest gets murdered.
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>>533982917
All this talk about people making bad decisions is a conceit that red is the correct choice but they need to make the same bad decision to save people they care about from making a bad decision. It's retarded.
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>>533982991
What am I saving people from? Pressing blue is just insanity.
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>>533980268
OP is vaxxed
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>it's just logic!
>it's just math!
Yes, you reduce the fate of millions to logic and math because you are a bad person, we know.
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>>533980962
>this is a mathematical literacy test.
This
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>>533983082
That’s what I thought merci anon
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>>533982926
Then let the ones you can't convince die. Who fucking cares?
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>>533980268
Everyone lives if you press red. The red button pressers are the high trust portion of society
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>>533982924
Logic without compassion is robotic, not human.
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>>533980654
The hypothetical as is is great because it proves the vast majority of people are retards or virtue signalling cunts
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>>533980386
Izzat++
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>>533982556
Bluetards made their own choice. I am not responsible for their stupidity.
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>>533983032
You need tot hinm about what the buttons do a little more.

The red button is a choice to live regardless of what buttons anyone else pushes. The blue button is a choice to maybe live if conditions are met. Prwtend they arent buttons. One is a banana and if you eat it, you live. The other is a table with a revolver on it and you get ti put the gun up to your head and pull the trigger. If theres no round in that chamber then you get to live.

Are you going to eat the banana or play Russian roulette?
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>>533982993
I live in the world where most people took an ineffective vaxx against a glorified flu to protect boomers.
sorry, edgelord. you lost.
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>>533983110
Wrong. Blue is the murder pact. Only pressing blue adds risk of death.
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>>533980376
Failing to kill evil men is evil.
If you refuse to push red, you are evil.
If you push blue, you are making an allowance for evil men to live.
Which is evil.
You are evil.
Masquerading as good, judging others.
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>>533983050
She killed herself.

See
>>533981883
Why would anyone choose to enter the ultimate suicide death gamble for no fucking reason? Blue voters are fucking retards. There is no possibility of death unless people push blue. Blue button pushers are the people who even made death a possibility in the first place. Then you psychos try to blame others because you entered the ultimate death gamble voluntarily for no fucking reason other than being a virtue signalling faggot.
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>>533983110
No one forced you to push blue. You are too stupid to be allowed to vote if you pick blue.
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>>533982993
>Ah yes, human beings, famously selfless and noble. Idk what world you live in but 99% of people are complete fucking assholes and selfish cunts.
redfaggots cannot help expose their spiritual jewish essence. keep talking redfaggots, you've failed as human beings if palantir can correctly model your binary thought pattern with 100% certainty. bluechads trust humanity by giving their fate to chance and break the ZOG system.
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>>533980752
burgers can't shut up about their guns but pussy out just to punch that nigger in the head. Cuck country
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>>533983301
Pushing red is the mechanism to save lives worth saving.
Pushing blue is the mechanism to save lives of those who refuse to save the lives of others.
There is no justification for it which does not rely on fault moralism and in so doing permit the perpetuation of evil.
Simple as.
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>>533981883
/thread
It's all about the representation.
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>>533980654
i would still press Red to fuck them even harder then
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>>533980268
If the world wasn't full of retards, 100% of the people would have pushed red.
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>>533983123
I'm not here to convince you, just throwing my two cents out there.

I'm all for doing this experiment with the caveat that when blue wins (which it would according to the OP), every sociopathic coward who pressed red will get a brand on their forehead and be treated accordingly by society or the rest of their days.
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>>533983059
because red is guaranteed survival, the equivalent of inaction
Idk ask him
>most people got guilt-tripped into taking an ineffective vaccine against a virus with a 99% survival chance.
>compared to that the blue button is a no-brainer.
akshually pressing blue is much more dangerous than the deathxxine, as failing to hit absolute majority means certain death
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>>533982884
The world would be better off without your genetic line.
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>>533983157
100% red needed for no deaths.
>50% blue needed for no deaths.
The math of it can lead one different ways. The truly altruistic and those not taking their own death seriously when answering fall for the outcome math under the assumption someone will push blue.
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I'll click blue IF Indians (caste system), Chinese (china numba one), and Muslims (infidels vote blue and muslims are free riding on western generosity) can't vote. You absolutely can't convince me that these 3.5bn people would even consider pressing the blue button.
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Yes, red is the safe option, however, you know some retards are going to press blue. This basically boils it down to will society save retards for no personal gain or will they let them die? The "hurr everyone should just press red" argument is retarded because you know that isn't going to happen.
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>>533982939
Pressing red guarantees personal survival, risking the lives of billions. It is the selfish option.
Pressing blue risks your own life to save billions. It is the selfless option.
It's that simple. Press red, survive, live with the guilt (or don't if you're a sociopath). Press blue, maintain the moral high ground.
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>>533983240
Once simply has to look at the state of the world to know the altruism of the blue is a lie that thinly veils status games and power seeking. That's all virtue signaling is. Deep down people are petty and terrible, it's not even self preservation, it's envy jealousy greed lust and hatred. The state of the world proves it. Humans hate each other and spiteful for things others have that they do not. It has always been this way.
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>>533980268
I chose red because I'm not a faggot retard
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>>533980268
Blue. My soul is immortal.
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>>533983247
wrong. blue is the pro-life choice.
it's so powerful, you only need 50% of people to press blue to save everyone.
you would need 100% of people to press red to save everyone.
red is the limp-wristed edgelord's choice.
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>>533980463
My family would NOT be picking blue, I don't even need to have a conversation with them about this. What?
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>>533982144
The blue button is the sociopath button.
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>>533982144
if my neighbor is dumb enough to hit the blue button when there is zero gain to be had other than keeping some idiot, tide pod munching, jew cum guzzling faggot then i kind of hope they do die for pressing their shitty, shallow, blue button.
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>>533983194
Because there could very well be the next Albert Einstein among the blue pushers. People seem to be choosing red because they value their own survival over everything else, they want a 0% chance that they die. But they themselves are probably not the next Albert Einstein. So ultimately humanity as a whole would suffer more if the blue people died, compared to the alternative where nobody dies at all.
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>>533981974
would you believe me if i said many people want to die? whether its glory in battle (asatru/samurai), martyrdom (christians), pathological altruism (liberals), avoidance of pain (cancer patients, mentally ill, burn victims) etc, many people actually see death as the "good ending">>533982380
>Press red and nothing happens, press blue and your system gets wiped unless 50% of all other Microsoft users also click it.
>basically no one would click blue.
normalfaggots at my work are wiping their own drives to install linux.
you underestimate how many people would choose instant painless death if it was a button press away.
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>>533980268
I press red. Not my problem, bluecucks.
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>>533982269
>Ackchooly those who good are bad because I'm a contrarian okaaaay????
Okay, retard
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>>533982918
Wasn't it revealed that you're a huge fucking faggot who shills for jews for free? Or are you being paid? Of course you are.
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>>533983431
>I'm not here to convince you, just throwing my two cents out there.
And your two cents are fucking retarded. Blue is the sociopaths button.
>will get a brand on their forehead and be treated accordingly
How very altruistic and tolerant of you.
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>>533980838
>hey we got two guns, one has a 50% chance of killing you
>This other gun? no bullets

This entire thing is a "we need higher powers to tell us what to do and control us because alone we would make the wrong decision" written all over it.

push red and let the blues die
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All blue voters deserve death.

The SOLE PURPOSE to hitting blue is to save those who would not seek to save all.

These are traitors, misanthropes, evil men.
If you seek to save them, you are allowing evil to exist, and have no legitimate good cause in so doing.
Youre just allowing evil, the evil which would not lift its hand for others, to survive.

Fuck your slave morality Abrahamic Judaic phimosemitic bullshit, KILL EVIL MEN. The world is better when we do, and worse when we do not.
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>>533983301
all evil men will press red, so you increase the percentage of evil men in the general population if red wins.
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>>533983410
I honestly think most blue button pushers are NPCs incapable of using logic to come to their own conclusions. The wording of the problem only gives information about the outcome of blue while you need to use your own mind to deduce the conclusion of pressing red.

NPCs are incapable of this so they choose blue. I honestly think if the problem was rephrased like the pic here
>>533981883

Almost nobody would pick blue.
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>>533980854
You are wrong and your dangerous opinions may lead to unnecessary death.
It is unironically for the good of the world that blue button pressers are forced in to camps
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>>533983310
>doubling down
you don't get it and you are ruled by your under-developed amygdala
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>>533983499
Pressing red does not create any risk to anybody. Blue is the button that creates risk.
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>>533983499
Pushing red risks no one's life. Everyone else is given the same choice between "live, difintely" and "live, maybe." If you push "live, definitely" it in no way forces anyone to push "live, maybe."

You are simply retarded if you push "live maybe" instead of "live definitely"
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>>533982584
But that's incorrect. It's red to do nothing, blue to commit suicide unless half of humanity also chooses to commit suicide.
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>>533983388
Again, see >>533983506
It's obvious you don't have a virtuous bone in your body, your virtue signaling is just a play for status and power (and on a anon board it shows how deeply pathetic and weak you character is).
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Reds:
>You You You
>I I I
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>>533983603
>but evil men would push the button!
Then they are not evil in this capacity.
They might be evil in other ways, but not in this one.
And thats all that matters in this moment - you are either part of the collective aiming for mutual survival, or.you see yourself as cast apart, something else, and such things deserve culling by-definition.
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>>533983204
compassion without logic is a death sentence for those who would abuse you. Be lucky there are those who have your best interest at heart and would cut off your fucking hand before letting you do something as stupid as press the blue button for the simple fact that your feelings (which are wrong and illogical in this case) would get you killed for no better purpose than I press blue button. Just admit you are suicidal and have done with it instead of trying to guilt others into commiting suicide with you.
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>>533983542
>Albert einstein
You almost got me to believe you were genuine. Good troll.
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>>533983603
Presuming others must gamble with their lives because you chose to do is the real evil.
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>>533983327
no one's forcing you to push red, either. why do you want to murder billions of people, chud?
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>>533983583
>How very altruistic and tolerant of you.
Hey, at least I'm not the cowardly murderer. Seriously, though, would you still pick red if you had to wear the brand? Probably not, considering your cowardly nature...
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>>533983238
You are a sociopath.
Almost everyone here arguing red simply cannot look past their own mortality. When forced, the response is some variation of "well they were wrong, so I guess they die".
In your analogy, eating the banana might unleash a plague that kills billions. What choice do you make now?
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>>533983667
wich make the result of 42% blue so funny to me, i would expect a rate of like 90% retard
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>>533982214
>useful people like scientists
>Everybody pushing blue is the best option for humanity as a whole.
We disagree on what "useful" and "best" mean.
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>>533983531
awww how cute
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>>533983593
holy fucking kek i love reading all the red kvetching. keep talking clankers
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Anyone who says blue is retarded, plain and simple. Red is "yes I want to live thanks." Blue is "maybe Ill keep living of enough people push this button too." Everyone who chooses to push blue could have simply chosen to push red instead. But they are retarded so they push blue
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>>533983534
>you only need 50% of people to press blue to save everyone
"You don't understand! We need to press blue to save people from pressing blue!"
Beginning to think every blue actually thinks communism would work.
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>>533983542
>There might be an albert einstien
This is the dumbest argument on this entire thread, and that's saying something. Congrats.
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>>533983763
Youre the one who pushed the maybe kill me button when the i choose life button was right there. That's suicide, not murder.
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>>533983822
Didn't jesus want to die?
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>>533983436
most people in the world have a number of loved ones that they want to save.
everybody who isn't an edgelord intuitively knows that which is blue would win easily.
I want to see you press red when your mom and your dad already decided to press blue because they're good people.
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>>533983764
>would you still pick red
Yes.
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>>533983407
So blue is the choice to forgive the sins of others?
Blue is literally the Jesus button. Thanks for making it so clear.
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>>533980268
If you aren't White, you deserve to live in a country full of White men choosing red.
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>>533983327
This is correct. This same thought experiment needs to be carried out some how in real life with the intention of stripping blue pushers of the vote, for their own good and the good of everyone.
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>>533983542
>blue pusher
>alber Einstein
no, but i guess he was retarded and jewish if you listen to 4chan anon so it would make sense
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>>533983843
That's exactly it. They can't even argue without admitting red is the correct choice. They just think they should risk death in order to save the retards who don't make it.
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>>533981187
Why are you assuming they wouldn't also pick red?
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>>533983771
Youre moving the goal posts. The banana and the gun do the same things as the buttons. If youre stupid enough to play Russian roulette instead of eat the banana then the world is better off without you anyway.
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>>533980268
If everyone presses Red, no one dies. So why would anyone press Blue?

1. Some people are retarded and would be bamboozled by the phrasing of this "dilemma" which evokes a sense of altruism and "Prisoner's Dilemma"-esque morality. So well-meaning people will likely end up pressing Blue out of a misplaced sense of altruism.
2. Others recognize that naive people will press Blue and that these are actually good people to have in society, and wants to save them, so these people will press Blue out of a true and genuine sense of altruism, risking their own lives to try to save the naive team players.

Clearly we aren't retarded enough to be in group 1. The real dilemma here is whether to be group 2 or to just press Red anyway, leaving the naive team players to die.

The Red button is truly a red herring, as this post makes clear >>533980772
You can remove the Red button entirely and the dilemma doesn't change in premise, but having only one button psychologically changes the impression. In the one-button framing, it just seems retarded to press it. But the addition of a second button and being told you must pick one button suddenly makes it seem like we have a moral duty to press the suicide button.

I would press Red. We would lose some people who are not the worst people in society, but not the best either. The outcome would be bad but I think humanity would end up better for it down the road.
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>>533983822
Ah, yes, the philosemite espousing the ethos given to him by the parasitic goblins.
How's that going for you champ?
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>>533980463
I don't have any retards in my family though.
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>>533980268
red
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>>533983905
>Assumes most people are good people
What a horrible assumption. Don't be a parent.
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>>533983905
Just like the deathxxine, I would not care and press red
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>>533983920
Wow, you're such an empath..
and a shitskin.
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>>533983918
Yes, Blue is the subversive rabbi button. That is correct.
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>>533983771
>"hello yes i am a dumb nigger and i picked blue, please put your life at risk to save me for picking the wrong choice and hopefully enough people put their lives at risk to save me, i will also continue to make the blue choice every day for the rest of my life and complain when you dont also pick the blue choice and make your life worse for my benefit"
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>>533980268
>high trust
>premise starts with a big fat lie about a private vote
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>>533983916
Good. The new rules are that brandies can never vote again, hold office, and must suck the fart out of a blue voter's ass upon request. Have fun, faggot!
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>>533983802
And a world full of red edgelords is not one worth living in.
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>>533983853
You could choose literally any other person who has the potential to profoundly benefit humanity other than Albert Einstein. I merely chose him because I think he’s cool
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>>533983961
Why are we letting women and children (but I repeat myself) vote?
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>>533984078
Yes it is, all the "edgelords" love life and wanted to protect it; the narcissistic anti-Life jewgoblinos demand salvation without contribution nor merit.
Its so obviously philosemtiic as a stance.
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>>533984078
Or a world of "red edgelords" will not introduce a blue suicide button that offers no advantage to the person dumb enough to push it.
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>>533983649
>unnecessary death
it is necessary for reds to die.
if all reds die then only white libtards will survive. niggers and jews all pressed red.
libtards are not adapted to survive in low trust shitskin nations, but they will make a utopia if shitskins went extinct and there was a white ethnoplanet.
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>>533983542
>Because there could very well be the next Albert Einstein among the blue pushers.

>>533983388
>redfaggots cannot help expose their spiritual jewish essence.

Which is it?
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>>533983078
>If you factor in “accidental presses” I.e. not everyone participating is a rational actor (infants, dementia etc) then I can see an argument for pressing blue
Babies that press the blue button were destined for a life of failure, good riddance. They had weak blue sissy genes.
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>>533984036
>>533983535
What is wrong with all you ESL faggots who don't understand what someone is saying?
Are you really a robutt, or just a dumbass?
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>>533980268
t. retard.
if everybody chooses red, everybody lives.
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>>533983580
holy cope mossad
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>>533980268
Well who are the people? I dint automatically care just because I see the word "people"
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>>533983666
Wrong, Satan. The fact you can't separate "anybody" from "myself" says more about your character than you ever could otherwise.
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>>533984083
Yeah, but he was actually a debased Ziocon Jew who engaged in constant deceptions and most of his ideas were either stolen or outright wrong.
>Dr Stone
You would like that absolute trashpile, wouldn't you? Think Einstein is based lol, you fucking midwit jewsimp faggot. i bet you have an associates degree in a non-scientific field and LUV SYINCE!
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>>533984083
Since Einstein was a math genius I doubt he would fail a mathematical literacy test like this.
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>>533984009
>I don't have any retards in my family though.
But they do.
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>>533983575
Threatening to commit suicide then trying to shame others into commiting suicide with you is sociopathic behavior.
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The sad thing about this is that it's just an oversimplified and super easy prisoners dilemma.

Imagine of the prisoners dilemma said that you can either get out of jail right now or you can go to trail and see who if either of you rats first. Both prisoners would obviously just choose to go free. Blue pushers are over here going "actually i want to take it to trial because I won't rat and neither will he so you won't get a conviction." Meanwhile the other option was just go free right now.

You are an idiot if you press blue.
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>>533980376
this, everybody presses red and everybody survives with no risk to themselves. crazy this retarded thought experiment got so much traction
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>>533980268
57.9% of respondents lack basic reasoning skills.
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>>533983400
>hides behind memeflag
You are the cuck.
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>>533980268
>itt: /pol/cels mad af that they’re anti-social freaks and being made fun of for it again by normies
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>>533980268
I will trust the society a lot more once those pesky blue button idiots are gone.
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>>533980268
Blue is the best choice by far. Imagine you have 100 people. There are always gonna be some that press blue because they are good-natured and hopeful and want to do what is best for everyone. There might be 10/20/30, doesn't matter. If red pressers win in this scenario the only ones that die are the good people and the ones left are selfish scumbags. Congrats now go eat each other alive. If blue pressers win that means that there are enough people in the mix that can make the world better. Sure the bad get to live but they are not the only ones left.

You want to live in a blue society because it is a better society. "But muh game theory says press red". Do it and be left with at least 50 other selfish pricks like you. Mad Max it and then bemoan that everything is shit.
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>>533982584
No, because everyone else has the choice to press red. They have agency. Your choice does not causally affect their choice nor remove their agency. It simply murder because you do not cause their death. Neither do you enable the conditions which lead to their death - those are set a priori as a rule of the game, and the participants have full knowledge of those conditions.
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>>533983238
This is obvious.
>>533983771
The blue button is a suicide pact, and the sickness is that many of you want to join it. It is precisely when a civilization is about to expire that its inhabitants are most convinced of its permanence and its inevitable progress... the liberal death wish is the ideology of a society that has lost its faith and is seeking its own destruction. Our ancestors had a sense of their own worth. Today, we have a death wish disguised as a clear conscience.
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the vaxx was already such an experiment with much worse conditions for "blue" and blue still won.
there's no chance in hell blue would lose this. I didn't take the vaxx, I would press blue.
you chuds are arguing against something that has already been proven by empirical data.
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>>533984227
You forgot
>t. mathematically illiterate
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>>533980268
the entire problem with this premise is that you're asking to push the button in the context of the WORLD, not a certain society/country.

is everyone else in the world high-trust? no. if you said this about "everyone in Japan" I'd push blue. if you said "everyone in Somalia" I'd push red.

you cannot ask a question like this across such a broad and diverse group of people and expect people to still be trusting when we all know the realities.
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>>533983736
>Be lucky there are those with your best interests at heart who will have you killed en masse for picking the option we disagree with.
It's getting really hard to tell the trolls from the sociopathic jews in this thread, thanks for making at least one clear.
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>>533983905
>everybody who isn't an edgelord intuitively knows that which is blue would win easily.
Red would obviously win. This dilemma isn't posed only to well-educated middle class white people who've read a book in their life and whose parents stayed married. It is posed to all of humanity. I have never seen a mass of "the public" choose the altruistic over selfish choice to begin with, much less when the question isn't even a moral conundrum like the Prisoner's Dilemma but is just deliberately confusing.
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>>533984305
>>533984340
Universal suffrage is obviously a terrible idea.
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>>533984028
cool, you would still lose because most people took the vaxx.
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>>533984170
Thank you for proving my point
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>>533984009
i have, but i respect them enougth to think they would vote red
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>>533984371
red fags still can't refute this
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>>533984025
>>Assumes most people are good people
>What a horrible assumption.
the red cries in pain is it strikes you. time's up, schlomo. you lost. blue won
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>>533984371
>Do it and be left with at least 50 other selfish pricks like you
if everybody picks red everybody lives, retard.
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>>533984371
Being dumb doesn't make the world better.
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>>533983961
Why are you assuming that Im assuming? Most people already know who/what their family members vote for. Sorry to hear that youre a teenage runaway drug addict with no family, anon. Its either that or youre lying and you do know how your loved ones vote.
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>>533984371
Pushing the "maybe die" button instead of "just keep living" button is neither good natured nor hopeful.
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>>533980268
Why does this have infinite threads?
>you
I don't use twitter. I'm not one of the less than 100,000 that participated in this.
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>>533984260
Einstein has done infinitely more for humanity than the average 4chan user commenting red on this post. But if you hate science so much, just consider whatever person you yourself consider to have the most value to humanity. And if you can only think of yourself, you’re just a chuunibyou who values his own sad life over the greater good.
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>>533983400
There are legal systems in place to fuck over any white male that does anything. Remember Daniel Penny? He almost got completely fucked in the very same city that webm was filmed in
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>>533984025
I didn't say that. mutts have horrible reading comprehension.
most people probably have some loved ones who are good people and such would be compelled to press blue as well.
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>>533984371
Blue pushers are the same sort of cucks that invite hostile immigrants who want to overthrow your society and refuse to assimilate. They are virtue signalling faggots who will risk their own death to feel good about themselves and convince themselves they are a better person.
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Red chads ww@
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>>533984371
This is stupid and low IQ because you make it sound like your personal choice changes other people's votes, it doesn't. The button doesn't change the society you live in either. Although, you're probably too dumb to understand what I mean by this.
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>>533983735
You are nothing but a fish given a keyboard
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>>533980268
I trusted everyone was smart enough to press red. I guess my trust was misplaced.
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>>533983987
It actually scares me that you would choose to kill billions and not care because "they deserved it". You have no soul.
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>>533982926
>it's easier to convince billions of niggers and jeets to gamble their lives for the sake of nameless, faceless strangers on the other side of the world than to convince leftists that killing yourself to appear morally superior is bad
How absolutely dire.
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>>533984193
>if everybody chooses red, everybody lives.
if everybody chooses blue, everybody lives.
can you retards at least make arguments that aren't true for both sides?
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>>533984461
What do the black boxes that say 50% represent here? I don't get it.
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>>533984461
You must be dumb and naive and I'm sure lots of people have abused your trust. If not, buckle up bucko life ain't a cakewalk. And don't lock your doors at night, leave them open. People are good and won't rob you. If you don't unlock your doors at night then you are a hypocrite.
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>>533984053
Why?
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>>533984549
Liberalism is the ideology of Western suicide. When once this initial and final sentence is understood, everything about liberalism - the beliefs, emotions and values associated with it, the nature of its enchantment, its practical record, its future - falls into place. James Burnham, Suicide of the West
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>>533984290
>>533984438
correct
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>>533984040
>Blue is the subversive rabbi button
Well, yes... subversive rabbis tell goyim to vote blue and they tell jews to vote red. See Israeli vs Western immigration policy
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Blue is a suicide pact.
Why would anyone press anything but the red button unless this shtick is just performative for those who think of themselves as sacrificing savior types?
I think leftoids press blue because they want to prove they're good people and pragmatic people are scratching their head, dumbfounded, that anyone would press anything but the red button when it's explained what will happen. It's a no brainer.
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>>533984600
The only people choosing to kill are those that choose blue.
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>>533984371
>Congrats now go eat each other alive.
Here's the issue with Blue socio/psychopaths: They cannot understand that the people in question are unlikely to eat each other, and in the absence of those removed by not pushing blue, its significantly less likely.

What this comes down to is a VERY SIMPLE moral argument.
Do you save the lives of those will not reciprocate?
Protip: Blue is modern christcucks defending Jewish power and action. Thats what this test is actually about.
The Jew will not save you, he will not push Red, he seeks a button that will save only himself and not you, and in its absence, he simply will not push red, because he is evil.
If you push Blue, the Jew gets to live on, preying upon others, causing havoc and despair.
Here's the important part: HE WILL NEVER STOP. The Jew will never see the error of his ways shall tea h his children thus in turn, as we have seen for THOUSANDS OF YEARS.

The weak, driven by philosemitic mind poison, would allow the parasite to live.
And as we see, in this world right now, he who will not destroy the parasite shall be its host until death, likely at the parasites hands.
Accept it, dont, it doesn't matter - your opinion does not alter Truth.
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>>533984371
>There are always gonna be some that press blue because they are good-natured and hopeful and want to do what is best for everyone.
By doing the one thing that puts them in harms way. These people need to be protected from their own stupidity by good natured red pushers.
The way its framed blue button pushers think they're saving people. They're not. They're unknowingly putting themselves in harm's way and trying to convince others to do the same. People like this need to be protected from themselves.
They're the kind of person who would be a lovey dovey socialist, talking about universal brotherhood, peace and love etc. while standing shoulder to shoulder with a Kaganovich.
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>>533980268
Flawed test because liberals just hate the colour red
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Pressing blue is vaxxcattle behavior
>My vaccine didn't work, because you didn't get yours!
>My blue button killed me, because you didn't press yours!
Also many blue enthusiast anons seem to forget that every people in the world would get to vote, which means billions of uncaring niggers, jeets, chinks and other turd worlders, so pretending to be Mr. High Trust Nobleman would only put your life at risk for zero benefits.
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>>533984505
I'll give a hint, his name starts with A. A shame we will never know just how good things could have been if we weren't carrying the third world on our back and jews atop them.
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>>533984513
There is no reason at all for good people to push a button that says "a bunch of people might die" on it.
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Can I press the red button multiple times?
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>>533983771
Reverse. You are incapable of living outside of the herd and will follow a judas sheep to slaughter enthusiastically
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>>533984420
>I have never seen a mass of "the public" choose the altruistic over selfish choice to begin with
yes, you have. see >>533984386
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>>533984642
>Liberalism is the ideology of Western suicide
This
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>>533984600
It doesnt scare me at all that billions of people would choose to commit suicide because they are retarded. It actually is quite reassuring and I hope they will get the opportunity.
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>>533984686
That's a good point about the twitter poll. He should have chosen neutral colors instead of culturally charged ones.
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>>533980268
I voted red because 57.9% of people have never lived around niggers.
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>>533984545
I would care for your thoughts more.if you weren't on your knees being suffocated by the face fucking youre getting from a nonreciprocatung parasite, silly jewraped goyslave l.
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>>533984685
>They're the kind of person who would be a lovey dovey socialist, talking about universal brotherhood, peace and love etc

But it will work this time!
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>>533983995
If you pick red and win, you kill naive good-natured people, saving only selfish cold logical sociopaths. It baffles me that you presented a coherent argument for why good people would pick blue, then chose to murder them anyway. I can only assume you're an expert troll.
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>>533980463
My family isn't retarded enough to press the blue button, checkmate atheist.
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>>533984086
>Why are we letting women and children (but I repeat myself) vote?
If I try to physically stop women from voting then I will be beaten and arrested. If I persist then I will eventually end up homeless and unemployed. I dont love America enough to die on that hill. Its a lost cause.
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>>533984513
>Most people
Maybe "Most people" means something else in German. You have the object permanence of an infant.
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>>533984719
lmao. if this was real the pope would come out and outright say blue is the good choice.
is so obvious, only 4chan edgelords could claim otherwise.
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>>533982091
Pressing blue is a performative act. Red is pragmatic. This is a test to find all the performative sociopaths in society.
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>>533984655
>Well, yes... subversive rabbis tell goyim to vote blue and they tell jews to vote red.
Pretty much, yeah.

"Oy vey do not give the crumbs.tp the gentile dogs, simply take all that you can from them while pretending you are their ally".

The failure to reciprocate as cause for punitive exclusion/death is a basic paradigm of thought and morality.
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>>533981780
>It's showing us everyone that is performative
This is the crux of the situation. Blues are grandstanding in a pseudo Democrat/Republican political stint, making an abstract connection that Dems are morally superior while Reps are sociopaths. If they were actually under the gun, they wouldn't hesitate to mash the red button.
>>533982296
There are always more than one angle to any situation. Red voters aren't all spitefully voting red to kill blues. Many of them are logically coming to the conclusion that it is a safer bet to press red than it is to run the risk with pressing blue. I can't fathom being a blue voter holding a 60% lead only to go to bed and wake up getting their head chopped off because overnight a bunch of reds materialized in the night to turn the vote in their favor.
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>>533984813
The only people choosing to kill are blue. Red is "do nothing".
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>>533984813
so right wingers survive and all libshits die
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>>533984813
You can save anyone when you're in the minority, retard.
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>>533984679
That meme makes no sense. Atheist anti-Semitism didn't exist. Hatred of Jewry was central to Christian identity until at least the early 20th century. There is nothing comparable in atheism.
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>>533984408
You know for a fact if this happened globally multiple countries would be running push red campaigns.
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>>533984603
Red doesn't attach any requirements to survival. Red says everyone who wants to survive can survive. Just push here.

Meanwhile blue says people that push me aren't worth letting live unless they reach a certain threshold. Push here and maybe die.

You are not altruistic. You are stupid. This is not the prisoners dilemma. This is a simple choice between definitely living and maybe living.
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>>533983662
You don't get it you dumb faggot
We can simplify it and simplify it but it will never be simple enough for you because your retarded feminized dog-brain is completely ruled by emotion.
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>>533984734
?? They took the vaxx because they believed it would let them go outside again, and keep their job. Some thought it would protect their health.
You are insane if you think the majority of vaxxies took it "altruistically" just to "protect the elderly and immunocompromised."
Repeat the experiment without a lockdown and without the threat of being fired, you will not see the same result.
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>>533984461
>blue won
Red always wins. How are you still failing this hypothetical?
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>>533984813
Your inability to understand basic math is the problem here. I'm sorry, but you're low IQ. You don't get the question. You only get one vote, your choice doesn't affect the others. If you pick red and win, that was the only way to win. No one is choosing to "murder them anyways". It's not a collective question. But logically, if you're that low IQ, you won't understand what I'm saying.
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>>533982884
Yeah if it’s someone I loved more than myself then I would pick blue to avoid the however small chance I would directly cause their death. For the whole population you would pop that red button though. Btw only white people would push blue but it’s still the wrong choice.
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I would press blue for the chance of dying, but blue would probably win every time
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>>533984491
Your understanding is laughably basic.
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>>533984952
Those images aren't from atheist societies.
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>>533984513
I don’t know of anyone living person who loves me. I love nobody. No friends. No family. I push blue because that is the only button I can push to ensure the chance of someone dying, and I push it hoping I’m in the minority.
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>>533982842
>erm everyone thinks like me, CHUD
That’s what you retards think every election, too. Lmao
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>>533984461
I sympathize with Israelis more because despite being subversive shitbags they at least aren't the ones losing a war they started while crying genocide.
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>>533985040
This is rational from your point of view, you are a liberal with a death wish.
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Pressing the blue button are people who are suicidality empathetic.
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>>533980268
we have
>vanilla
>strawberry
>chocolate
>pistaccio
>...
>...
>...
what do you want?
>vanilla

this is a lesson in priming, actually, and then maths
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>>533985048
You are an idiot. Your opinion couldn't possibly matter less to me.
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>>533984720
Sure but it doesn't do anything
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>>533983822
Jesus warned of virtue signalling narcissists.

>And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.

King James Bible
Matthew 6:5

Jesus is saying they are getting reward they seek, narcissistic gratification. They aren't actually seeking salvation. They are full of shit and are hypocrites.
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>>533980268
>if you chose red you don't deserve to live in a high trust society
It says "Everyone in the WORLD."
If you choose blue, you don't understand how many turd worlders there are vs us.
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>>533984873
you still don't comprehend, retard. if in an extended family of 20 people even one person is good (and that's a low estimate), then all 19 other family members have a loved one to lose who would press blue.
thus most people would have loved ones to lose, even if most people aren't good.
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>>533985102
You on the other hand are simply pathetic (and a coward).
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>>533984481
So no real answer. Got it
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DAILY REMINDER

STUDIES SHOW CONCLUSIVELY THAT WHEN MEN AND WOMEN ARE SHOWN A GROUP OF PEOPLE PLAY8NG A GAME, WHEREIN SOME ARE CHEATING AND SOME ARE PLAYING FAIR, WHEREIN ELECTRIC SHOCKS WERE PROVISIONED AT RANDOM TO THE PLAYERS
>MEN SEEING FAIR PLAYERS SHOCKED FELT EMPATHY
>SO DID WOMEN

>WHEN WOMEN SAW CHEATERS BEING SHOCKED, THEY ALSO FELT EMPATHY
>MEN FELT PLEASURE

PUSHING BLUE IS LITERAL PUSSY SHIT, AS IN YOU ARE INFINITELY MORE-LIKELY TO DO IT IF YOU HAVE A VAGINA.
Think on that fellas. Look around. The parasite is laughing at you as he continually fails to reciprocate basic treatment and respect - and who is inclined to allow that?

Blue-pressing bois bitchmade, Jewbrained, broken and weak, offering virtue to those who have already demonstrated it shall not be reciprocated.
Cuckolds, simps, jews and women, the lot of them.
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>>533984889
>everybody else is a sociopath, not me who votes against the easy gg survival of all.
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>>533985146
>good
You mean stupid. There is no reason not to push red and definitely live.
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>>533984193
If everyone surviving is your goal (its not mine)
then red needs 100% while blue only needs 50%+1
blue is the only plausible way to meet your goal
personally i would redesign the test so that if you choose your own survival or an outgroups survival over your loved ones, then you instantly die. the only way to live is if you try to save your family first. Of course the buttons would have to be mosleading for that to work.
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>>533985175
>Picking the button that grantees i live makes me a coward
Guess im a coward then.
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>>533984677
A lie is still a lie, no matter how much you repeat it. Only the red button brings death into the equation. I refuse to believe you genuinely don't get that, because the stupidity required would preclude you from reading.
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>>533984877
This post unironically made me consider red more than anything else in this thread.
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>>533984966
you're an autistic retard who can't see how it would obviously play out irl. see >>533985146
>>533985072
I'm sorry to hear that but that is not the case for the vast majority of people.
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>>533985271
>The point is that in all three possibilities for your prior expectation, it makes sense to press red. Say you expect that much greater than 50% will press the blue button. Then it doesn't matter what button you press, but since there is always an infinitesimal chance the blue button leads to your death, you should press the red button. Say you expect around 50% to press the blue button. Then it's far too dangerous to press the blue button, press the red button. Say you expect it's around 0%, or few people will press the blue button. In this case it's clear that the blue button is a suicide pact and you must press the red button. QED

Where is the flaw in the logic? Which case for prior expectations do you have a problem with? Please explain.
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>>533985201
Yes, a sociopath would argue everyone deserves to live.

If you will not stand for our mutual survival, you do not DESERVE - from a moral and pragmstic/Darwinian view - to live.
If you disagree, you are either a bitchmade simp for evil, or evil in masquerade.
I am unimpressed, either way
Die, soxiopathic vermin, die for your failure to reciprocate at the most basic level.
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>>533984966
>Red says everyone who wants to survive can survive. Just push here.
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>>533985048
>erm you’re not smart enough to understand why pressing the “probably die for no reason” button is better than pressing the “not my problem” button
Incredible argument
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>>533980268
>100% of people press red button
NOBODY DIES
>100% of people press blue button
NOBODY DIES
>More than 50% of people press blue button
NOBODY DIES
>Less than 50% of people press blue button
BLUE BUTTON PRESSERS DIE

Pressing the blue button is the only path that leads to death.
Why would anyone press it?
Only logical choice is to push red, since you live regardless of what retarded choice the other people make.
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>>533985358
If you dont push red, you deserve death.
If the majority fails to push red, it deserves annihilation.
Cry me a river as the Stars brun, Jew.
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>>533980268
you know blue is correct because they're not trying to convince anyone. normies read the squid game and understand the implied effect of pushing red is killing every good natured person who pushed blue. blues aren't failing an IQ test, reds are failing a human test and make endless posts coping with their guilty consciences.
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>>533985221
>You mean stupid
whatever. most people still would like their family to survive, including the good/stupid people.
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>>533985271
You have it wrong, only blue brings death. Blue is a suicide pact.
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>>533984305
It's being spam botted for some reason
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>>533985294
>t. trump voter
lol, it's no coincidence most red supporters here are mutt flags. you're degenerates.
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>>533985425
The point is that in all three possibilities for your prior expectation, it makes sense to press red. Say you expect that much greater than 50% will press the blue button. Then it doesn't matter what button you press, but since there is always an infinitesimal chance the blue button leads to your death, you should press the red button. Say you expect around 50% to press the blue button. Then it's far too dangerous to press the blue button, press the red button. Say you expect it's around 0%, or few people will press the blue button. In this case it's clear that the blue button is a suicide pact and you must press the red button.

Where is the flaw in the logic? Which case for prior expectations do you have a problem with? Please explain.
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>>533984968
anon we already went over this. you can't understand because your brain is physically underdeveloped and it shows
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>>533984719
>Blue button: a bunch of people might die, you're risking your life to try to prevent it
>Red button: a bunch of people might die, but they probably deserve it for trying to prevent it
Any other perspective is cope
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Would you choose the jump off the bridge with a bungee cord or without? If enough people choose to jump without then they will form a human chain that allows them to survive.
>everyone starts jumping without a cord

We need more limitations of voting. The founders had the right idea restricting it. This tyranny of the majority is exactly what they were trying to avoid.
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>>533985422
>If the majority fails to push red, it deserves annihilation.
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>>533985346
A sociopath would convince others to die for a chance to save themselves, or worse, save nobody. That’s you, faggot.
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>>533980268
I feel a bit silly because I didn't think it through but I would definitely push blue because everyone knows that a ton of people would and I wouldn't feel good about killing them. Trust the maths Americans to push red and fold their arms, if anything it's an autistic / psycho test
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>>533985425
>You know blue is correct because I'm not making an argument haha
You're too retarded to see how retarded you are. Everybody else is laughing at you retards and trying to help your retardation a little bit.
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>>533985425
No, blue pushers are the ones who vote to play the squid game while red votes to just go home and nobody has to die. Nobody dies unless someone presses blue. Red pushers never introduced death as a possibility.

See
>>533981883
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>>533984371
>the ones left are selfish scumbags. Congrats now go eat each other alive
That already happened in real life. Blues always permit reds into their land and inevitably find themselves outnumbered. Blue button societies are not sustainable because they are unwilling to purge red buttoners. This was the entire premise of The Prince by Machiavelli btw.
The best option is a nation of blues led by a benevolent red dictator. That only lasts for a while though.
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>>533985427
Everyone in my family would push red, with one likely exception, in the form of my mother who was a diagnosed bipolar sociopath misanthrope.
Her greatest flaw, which is why I am so intimately familiar with this trend, which is also strongly associated with Jews and Jewish thought, is/was THE FAILURE TO RECIPROCATE, at even a basic level.
And I am certain this world would be better without that wretched evil thing hurting others.
Creatures in the form of Man which lack the capacity or drive to reciprocate basic virtues, basic respect to one another, are poison, and the ideas which have allowed them to flourish must be overcome.
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>>533985563
You didn't kill them. They voluntarily drank the Kool aid and entered the suicide pact by pressing blue.
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>>533984375
>They have agency.
They dont.
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>>533985494
Holy shit retard do you not realize each poster has a unique ID? Or are you just being a faggot?
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>>533985484
Making an appeal to authority towards whatever reject they have in the Vatican when that shitty institution has been useless for centuries and outright harmful in the past few decades is such a retarded argument it makes me question my instinct to hit blue.
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>>533985532
>>If the majority fails to push red, it deserves annihilation
Yes. If you disagree, you want to live in a society wherein the majority will not reciprocate at a basal level.

I've lived that, you haven't.
You have no idea wtf youre talking about.

Push red.
Break the blue botton.
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>>533985494
Hi anon, anon here. I think you're retarded :^)
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>>533985407
>Why would anyone press it?
Virtue signalling.
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>>533985631
No those are weasel words
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>>533985545
>A sociopath would convince others to die
Im not con incing anyone to die.
Im urging them to act such that we all live - if they cannot or will not, they do not warrant life.
>for a chance to save themselves
If majority pushes red, those worthy of life live.
If majority fails to push red, majority does not warrant existence, for they are evil and wretched things.

The sociopath argues that evil men who do not reciprocate virtue ought be saved, and they have justification for it beyond ancient semitic myht-based faux-morality.
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>>533985631
>You didn't kill them.

This.
Failed to prevent their suicide would be more accurate.
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>>533985563
Reds think we are trying to "win", they don't understand who is going to press blue and why we want to save them. It won't register in their underdeveloped brains.
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>>533984518
wich make voting red even better
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>>533985671
what I'm saying is universally true of all red button pressers. it's nothing personal. yes maybe you are really that retarded anon
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>>533985545
Isn't it amazing how these performative narcissists and sociopaths lack self-awareness? I think their default mode is lie and gaslight, and over time they gaslight themselves into believing they're not monsters.
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>>533985846
>who is going to press blue and why we want to save them
Explain, I'd like to hear this.
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>>533985890
No, either you obviously get it or you don't.
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>>533985846
>>533985890
All conflict has a victor.

This button game does have a victory condition.
Victory is the abolushment of evil, and no amount of additional caveats ex uses the inherent evil in the misanthropes you seek to defend.
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>>533985846
>they don't understand who is going to press blue and why we want to save them

We understand perfectly.
And still press red.
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>>533982792
It's not murder...How can you not understand that? Pressing the red button does not actively kill anyone at all, the red button effectively does nothing at all. Those that CHOOSE to press the blue button accept all risk. Why should you jump off a cliff because others might? You NOT jumping off a cliff does not force others to jump off a cliff.
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>>533985916
So you cannot explain, which means you have no argument, just jew-tier dismissal from a non-existent moralistic highground.
Checks out.
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>>533984877
>lmao. if this was real the pope would come out and outright say blue is the good choice.

>The pipe is so branve and is willing to risk his life to save you
>Hides behind bullet proof glass everywhere he goes
Every pope is a coward and doesn't even have faith that the Lord will protect him and isn't willing to be a martyr like Jesus was. The pope will tell you to push blue and then push red when he gets to vote anonymously.
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>>533980496
It's also flawed because they choose to use the colors of political parties and that will taint the responses of many people before they even give the question any analysis.
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>>533985846
>>533985890
Midwits. Midwits press Blue and we "need to save them" because "they are better than niggers and Jews."
Midwits are the primary obstacle to solving all the world's problems. Losing them would probably work out for the best in the end.
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>>533982840
Precisely the same ones that took the clot shot after being warned not to.
Only virtue signalling retards choose the blue button.
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>>533985846
i would have pressed red in an hearbeat after reading the simple logic question, a little too late for all your mental gymanistic
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>>533985846
>and why we want to save them
The fact that you think pressing blue is "saving them" demonstrates your fundamental misunderstanding of the hypothetical.
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>>533985319
Simple.
The outcome is unknowable, so the only fair assumption is the second of your three possibilities. (Briefly covering the others, first possibility choice is moot, third red is the logical choice, but as outcome is unknowable this is moot).
You state with an unknown outcome, it is too dangerous to push blue. This is true, but only for yourself and your own personal survival. By the same logic, it is too dangerous for everyone to pick red. It is basically weighing your own survival against the survival of billions of well-intentioned strangers.
Would you run into a burning building to save someone? Not doing so is pressing red.
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>>533985992
>Pressing the red button does not actively kill anyone at all, the red button effectively does nothing at all. Those that CHOOSE to press the blue button accept all risk.
This.

Pressing Red doesn't hurt ANYBODY - its a purely beneficial aspect to salvage as much of the population as possible which is worthy of salvation.
Failing to push Red is simply evil, musanthropic, there is no excuse to not push it which does not label you as cull-worthy.

Blue is the issue.
You push it? Evil men, who did not reciprocate at a basic level, get to live.
You dont? They dont.

Its very simple, the question is if your moral and philosophic framework is functional as to accommodate that simple reality, or if it obfuscate it behind a bunch of Semitic smokescreen and Talmudry.
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>>533985824
There are two actions which would allow everyone to live. One of those actions requires risking the lives of a massive portion of the population. You’re choosing to try and convince a massive amount of people to choose the latter because you’re a sociopath.
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So in the end, there are 2 types of people who will push the blue button:
1 - Idiots with no common sense.
2 - People willing to risk their lives to shield the above idiots from the consequences of their idiotic choices. These people are also probably idiots, as they don't comprehend how the world would be better off without stupid people. Saving stupid people from the repercussions of being stupid stops natural selection from doing its thing and the species becomes weaker.

Both groups of people are worthless. Red button. All day, every day.
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>>533986012
Yes, Trump has mindbroken people so hard that their TDS taints every decision in their life now.
>Red is the logical choice
>But red is associated with MAGA so I will fucking die before pressing red!
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>>533986048
>Midwits.
No, I know many midwits who wouldnt fall for that.

>Midwits press Blue and we "need to save them" because "they are better than niggers and Jews."
No, I think far more evil men push blue than midwits - the majority of midwits are not that foolish, definitely not in the absence of Jewish power.
>Midwits are the primary obstacle to solving all the world's problems. Losing them would probably work out for the best in the end.
You are correct in many ways, but in this case its because the midwits have imbibe evil as good, we're taught wrong on purpose.

If we did this today, fine, you may be right; but give me a century of rule, and the midwits will be a totally different animal.
That is their nature.
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>>533985407
>100% of people press red button
NOBODY DIES
>100% of people press blue button
NOBODY DIES
>Less than 50% of people press red button
NOBODY DIES
>More than 50% of people press red button
BLUE BUTTON PRESSERS DIE

Pressing the red button is the only path that leads to death.
Why would anyone press it?

Do you understand how flawed your reasoning is yet?
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>>533985858
Idk, I can actually understand clearly solved "dilemmas" unlike you.
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>>533986221
>There are two actions which would allow everyone to live
Not everyone deserves to live.
Thats the point- a sociopath would argue, without belief that everyone should live, to save themselves.
They lack the capacity for empathy and mutual respect to espouse reciprocity, but want the benefits all the same.
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>>533984290
it's not even as hard as the prisoner dilemma, since you don't risk losing anything pressing red.
If everybody choose red, everybody live. The only reason to press blue is to try to save someone who pushed blue.
if you're too stupid to stay safe and risk everything only to hypothetically try to save someone not smart enough to understand that you should chose red for yourself and let other people keep themselves safe, you deserve to die.
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>>533986223
There is another type of blue pusher, those who want to die.
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>>533986331
You're using jewish tactics by phrasing the outcomes to make blue look good.
Blue is the only button that introduces possibility of death. You keep posting this shit and it is massive cope.
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>>533984491
>>533984518
>>533984540

>If everyone pushes red nobody dies

Give me one example where a big amount of people agreed on something 100% and acted on it too. It is retarded to assume that. This experiment doesn't make EVERYONE sit down and agree with a choice calmly and rationally. You are just called one day to press a button, you don't get to agree collectively what to press.

The question then becomes who presses blue? Does the selfish asshole press blue? Does the father with young children press blue? Who does? You motherfuckers tell me. In a realistic scenario who presses blue? The CEO of fuckyouall-corp or the kindly selfless fireman who risks his life on the daily to save others? Perhaps it's the nurse that stays in the hospital during an earthquake in order to save the newborns.
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>>533986331
>Pressing the red button is the only path that leads to death.
>Why would anyone press it?
Because some people deserve to die.
Specifically those who are misanthropic sociopaths, unwilling to save their kind by pushing a simple button.
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>>533986391
evidently not though since you can't comprehend why someone might reasonably pick the blue button
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>>533986491
>In a realistic scenario who presses blue?
Performative and gay retards push blue.
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This is just gambling veiled as a moral dilemma.
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>>533986552
The only reason to press blue is to brag you pressed blue.
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>>533986410
Reds are not arguing that everyone should live. Everyone COULD live, if they had the level of intelligence required to not be convinced to risk their lives for literally nothing by faggots like you, but that is not our prerogative. My own survival is my concern and responsibility, just as the survival of every individual is their own responsibility. If you want to join a suicide cult, it’s not my job to save you. This is the part where you go
>only a kike wouldn’t risk their life to save a retard from their own terrible decisions
To which I respond: lol. Lmao, even.
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>>533986491
>In a realistic scenario who presses blue?
Idiots who should never have been put in the position of making such a decision.
If anything this thought experiment exposes people who are too irrational to make the correct decision when an obvious correct decision exists.
In a realistic scenario, the real sadists are the operators of the button pushing operation. What sick fucks are making morons make life and death decisions?
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>>533986491
>The question then becomes who presses blue?
>Does the selfish asshole press blue?
Yes.
>Does the father with young children press blue?
No.
> Who does?
Those who understand that not all people deserve to live, and a civilization full of evil deserves destruction.
>You motherfuckers tell me. In a realistic scenario who presses blue?
Lots and lots of people.
>The CEO of fuckyouall-corp
Yes
> or the kindly selfless fireman who risks his life on the daily to save others?
No
>Perhaps it's the nurse that stays in the hospital during an earthquake in order to save the newborns.
The nurse who watches all the misery born through the corruption of non-reciprocal sociopaths at the height of power in this Jewish shitpile?
No. She doesn't push Blue - she pushes Red, has faith in Humanity.
And when Huma ity rises to her expectation - as they would - she would be pleased at the sudden absence of the sort of people who argue in nonreciprocal virtuisric terms, namely the CEOs of the insurance companies who demand monthly payment yet are happy to withdraw necessarily care coverage for infants on respirators.
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>>533986602
>Performative and gay retards say they push blue.
Then press red in secrecy because public acts garner praise, but the red button insures survival.
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>>533986744
>Everyone COULD live
But SHOULD they? NO.
Thats where your whole mess falls down.
>My own survival is my concern and responsibility, just as the survival of every individual is their own responsibility
Sociopathic bullshit. Atomized, alienated, demoralized and deracinated.
Broken.
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>>533980376
/thread

red and blue buttons are too "abstract" for neurotypical normies

put it in a real example:

imagine 100 people are camping a safe location in the forest, and someone suggests to go meet inside a cave, if more than 50 people accept the invitation, when the wolves come they will get sacred and run away, if fewer than 50 people accept, the wolves eat everyone in the cave

ignoring = red button

going into the cave = blue button

think of how fucking stupid you have to be to go into the cave. That's you >>533980268 and you SHOULD feel stupid

there's ZERO reason to go into the cave (press blue button), and recruiting people to go into the cave puts you at risk. OF COURSE if more than 50 people go, nothing will happen. The question is WHY would you take the risk?

the normal choice is to not take any risk, press red button
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>>533986552
>you can't comprehend why someone might reasonably pick the blue button
Of course I can, it's because they don't understand the thought experiment.
A reasonable person wouldn't opt into a suicide game.
The assumption of both a red victory AND a blue victory both logically conclude that picking red is optimal.
There's no limit to how many people can pick red.
It's not unreasonable to assume a red victory, in fact I would almost guarantee it. If the thought experiment got an additional variable, that after the vote happens all red voters die off in a blue victory, and I was the only voter who knew this, I would still press red.
Now actually make an actual argument or stfu. You will be ignored if you continue to avoid making arguments.
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>>533986331
There are 10 people in a room with the two buttons.
The first person to pick a button chooses red. No one is in any danger.
The second person to pick a button chooses red. No one is in any danger.
The third person to pick a button chooses blue. There is now a chance that he may die. For him to be saved from his own choice others must now risk their lives unnecessarily.

>but he's only in danger because someone else picked red!

There are 10 people in a room with the two buttons.
The first person to pick a button chooses blue. There is now a chance that he may die. For him to be saved from his own choice others must now risk their lives unnecessarily.

Do you understand?
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>>533986331
Forget about the red button.
Only the blue button exists.
If less than 51% of humanity presses the blue button, those that did press it die.
Do you press the blue button?
Effectively THIS IS the question. The red button is irrelevant. Do you press the blue button?
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>>533986331
>Pressing the red button is the only path that leads to death
since you need someone to press blue button to die, what you're saying is wrong
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>>533986672
>The only reason to press blue is to brag you pressed blue.
maybe you'll get it one day. ill give you a hint though. presupposing that the other person is just a braggart with something to prove is a dead end
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>>533986774
Either you have the colors mixed up in your head or are just plain stupid. You are arguing against your own points.
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the only interesting part of this "dilemna" (lol) is the afterpart in a world where everyone alive would be red presser, sad all we will get are retarded mental gymnastic until this meme die
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>>533986877
> Sociopathic bullshit. Atomized, alienated, demoralized and deracinated.
Broken.
And lease refer to >>533986744 faggot
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>>533987025
There is nothing to get.
Press red = live
Press blue = chance to die unless others attempt to save me.
Only virtue signallers say they push blue in the hypothetical. If this were to actually happen, most of those virtue signallers are pushing red.
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>>533987045
No one is in danger if you press red, only selfish people put themselves deliberately in danger and then demand to be saved at huge potential cost for the people who would do the saving. Imagine if you are outside of a burning building and then run in just so a fireman has to save you. That's a blue press for you. If the fire department is competent then nothing bad happens but you are putting yourself and everyone dumb enough to try to save you at risk by acting retarded on purpose.
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>>533986952
>If less than 51% of humanity presses the blue button, those that did press it die.

If everybody sits on their hands everyone lives.
0 button presses, 0 deaths.
Do nothing, live.
If ANYONE touches that button the crisis begins.

If button presses are done in secret and isolation you are caught on the hook of your own empathy and how stupid you think everyone else is.
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>>533986223
You are smarter than my dog, but my dog is a better person than you. I would press blue if it meant she lived and you died.
I would rather live on a planet full of 90 IQ Amish people than a planet full of 120 IQ kikes
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>>533986952
>If less than 51% of humanity presses the blue button, those that did press it die.
>Do you press the blue button?
Yep.
>Effectively THIS IS the question. The red button is irrelevant. Do you press the blue button?
Yep.

And I sleep like a baby that night, in a world with far less evil.

Reminder: One of the most EVIL, ANTI-HUMAN behaviors that exist in our ilk is the failure to reciprocate virtue.
It is a foundational difference between Jews and gentiles, as discussed in "You Gentiles".

A basic premise of morality is to espouse virtue in reciprocation: Treat well those who treat you well, treat others well that they might treat you well in turn.
Basic premise.

Here it comes into play.
Push Red: Espouse mutual desire for survival on behalf of those who can espouse reciprocal virtue to one another - save me, I'll save you.
Push Blue: Save those who would NOT save you. This is evil, it is allowing evil to flourish via application of virtue which either will not or cannot be reciprocated.
Don't Push Blue: Those who failed to reciprocate the basic foundational virtue of mutual respect of existence are culled. A glorious thing, if tragic.
Don't Push Red: Expression of a fundamental lack of reciprocity of virtue, unwilling even to save yourself, let alone your kindred.

Failure to push Red marks you as evil.
Desire to push Blue marks you as willing to perpetuate evil our of misplaced virtue, specifically.virtue which is not or cannot be reciprocated.
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>>533987045
You get the gist in either case you immensely insufferable cunt, and you made no argument.
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>>533986331
>Pressing the red button is the only path that leads to death.
No, pressing the red button does nothing. Literally nothing.
The possibility of death doesn't exist until an idiot decides to press the blue button.
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>>533987338
Alright, so now dogs have to press a button now too?
I'm betting all the cats are pushing red.
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>>533987117
I did respond, you had no counterpoint, because you are broken. And on some level you know it.



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