>>533980622There's a special place in hell for the people flying these and killing people. I can only hope they get shot in the face during a live broadcast.
>>533981091/Thread exactly
>>533980622It's like a desert of green pastures
>>533981091>>533981146archers amirite?
>>533981091Why? What's the difference between getting droned and getting sniped?
>>533981091>noooo you cant blow up invaders with a drone! you have to use missiles and artillery!
Modern warfare is so fucking gay. Just get sniped by playstation nerds 10 km away from you.
>>533981323>first seven vids people reacting to drones from a distance>eighth one is stealth attack from rearhow the fuck does a drone sneak up on anyone? not buying combat hearing loss and earphones.
>>533980622We went form infantry living in a muddy ditch for months in the driving rain until their feet literally rot off to them just getting blown up by an RC toy from god minutes after they reach the battlefield in just 100 years. Now that's progress.
>>533981323Amateur pilots. You're supposed to chase people around for a while so they get tired and fall over, making it easier to land a clean hit.
>>533980622You're best chance at survival is to drop your backpack dive to the ground and roll away.The drone might miss you and detonate in a small depression which might shield you from the explosion and fragments.
>>533981655most ww1 deaths were caused by artillery and disease
>>533981091>virtuous ass fucking mongolmaybe you know someone personally that's been blown to pieces?
>>533981904This shit is the next nuke, nobody wants wars when this is what you are up to. Nukes made major wars too costly, drones will make even small quarrels too costly.
>>533981655>10 kmIt's 50+ now.
>>533980622Shoot not throw gun @ Lmfao
>>533981459a sniper at the very least has to have line of sight to you. the sniper’s bullet can’t dance around obstacles. the bullet once fired can’t toy with you endlessly. the bullet can’t choose at the last second before impact consciously if it wants to kill or only maim. the sniper himself is at least in the same arena of combat, even if very far away. read “A Theory of The Drone”.
>>533980622All these drone videos and ukraine is still losing to these retarded russians damn.
>>533981544You should start with the Pakis in the UK
>>533982707>>533982741u mad
>>533981091>Special place in hell
>>533981091Isn't this how you kill people when you invade a country in the middle east, you fucking burger?
>>533981091lol ziggers are funny.
there is a certain type of person like OP who thinks by showing gore while being ironic about it he can stop people from going to war This of course has never and will never work in human history, people like OP are scared of being sent to war so they want to make everyone else afraid of it in hopes war never startsbut reality is you dont get to choose to go to war the elites do and the elites do not care if you suffer and die so spamming drone gore does nothing
>>533982707>winning
>>533980622>Day 1500 of the SMO>Russian soldier still don't have under barrell net guns or atleast shotgunsI mean even our animal control people are armed with these
>>533983538>there is a certain type of person like OP who thinks by showing gore while being ironic about it he can stop people from going to warwhat a strange thing to say. you completely misunderstood the point of these threads anon...completely
>>533980622I love seeing dead ziggers
>>533982707>ukraine is losingkek someone has not been following what is happening inside russia recently
>>533983631They didn't travel so well
>>533983538>being elite.But do you feel in charge?We'll see you in Iran, taking Kharg island
>>533980622>>533981323is this "war" just a couple of drunk hobos dying is large fields?
>>533983697>He doesn't know he watches mikitary_summaryMany such cases
>>533981459If I were to shoot you in the face, at least you'd see your killer and would have had an opportunity to defend yourself.
>>533983799honorfags are so cringe
>>533983697
>>533983690They really got caught with there pants down in this war.
>>533983528There certainly is a comedic element to it
>>533980622All these dudes, all by themselves. Most have gear but almost none are actually shooting. I wonder how many drones these condemned men fought off before that last one got em.
>>533983725
>>533983856>Didn't you hear? Oil prices were up and now T-72s are made of gold.This is what they say is winning
>>533983631the whole point of your thread is to demoralize the odd zigger into not signing up for the SMO
>>533981323yeah, all those trench shotguns live streaming their victims humiliating death means this practice of force multiplier + associated cope is old as time
>>533982407Drones are worst that could happen to society. This wae seems jike just a testing ground for 24/7 survailence. You dont even need many drones to monitor huge amounts of people. Drones + cctvs + phone data = total dystopia at gunpoint. You will have jews raping kids on main square.
>>533983799>The dieing knight in his last breathe seethes at the musketeer for cheatingYou don't have a leg to stand on
>>533984038I mean, if you sign up you get what you get
>>533980622>cowboy tyronne hipshotSee those little nibbly things on the top edge of the rifle, Ivan? "Iron sights."
>>533984038>the whole point of your thread is to demoralize the odd zigger into not signing up for the SMOOn the contrary. I want more Russians so we can get more Russian Gore
>>533980622I can watch russian globohomo faggot be blown up all day
>>53398427050,000 gore videos this year is not enough?
>>533980622Feels good to be a first worlder. My high protein diet and upbringing on COD would allow me to shoot those drones like nothing. Love laughing at these malnourished peasants.
>>533980622jokes aside if you are a good shoot you can do it but most get sent to meatgrinder without proper trainingthere were couple of webms but i wont find it now thanks to all the pajeets working on software
>>533980622>Just give up!>Your AR-16 can't save you, Chud!>There is no hope of defeating the military if you are just a civilian!>You should be drafted, Chud! You believe in guns!>Has anyone seen my dialator?!
>>533984389yeah thats what people dont get between american technology and us actually knowing how a gun works small drones like these wont be a problem for america troops within 5 yearspersonal jammers for each soldier hard kill apslasars remote weapon stations able to lock and track drones jammers for all vehicles im frankly not really concerned about small drones from a US military POV, people massively overestimate the power of small commerical grade drones like the ones used in ukraine because both sides are retarded and have bad military equipment
>>533984356NOPE
>>533983799Not really at all. The French Knights claimed the English lowbowmen were cowards, guess who won agincourt
>>533984038no, try again>>533984088huh?
>>533984038Its funny that most of those posters unironically died kek
>>533981459None cause both will get horribly tortured and killed once captured
>>533981091America is a special economic zone that all of humanity has a right to. Men are women, white is wrong, diversity is your strength.
>>533985186Its dumb argument. >if you use a weapon youre badDon't attack someones country if you have such a mentality
best defence is a tennis racket
>>533980622Today you can basically conquer a country with only an AI that control for you 500.000 explosive drones
>>533981091Fpbp. Anyone who disagrees are literally paid shills.Look at the replies that disagree. They all mention something about Russians yet nothing about the morally evil aspect of drones themselves. Paid shills.
>>533985712>the morally evil aspect of drones themselvesWhat is morally evil about them though?
>no! you have to conduct in my archaic manner like i tell you because i feel like the odds are against me and i am left dead in the water otherwiseyawn get better script
I don't approve of this footage being posted on the internet for ghouls on the internet to jerk off over, but if you sign up for money, knowing explicitly that you're being sent in to steal land from its rightful owners and to kill the people and destroy the culture there then they deserve whatever they get, whether that be a drone or a landmine or a missile or a bullet.
>>533983849No. War is gay as fuck now.
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/subject/Just%20Shoot%20the%20Drone%20Bro%21/
>>533987430see you tomorrow
>>533981091should already be regarded as a war crime. probably gonna be kept around to scare the public, elites love loosh farming
>>533989232You don't say why it should though.
None of this makes sense because it would be easy as fuck to kill zelensky or the other way around and it's not being done. Anyone supporting either side doesn't realize the kikes on both sides are in on it to kill all goyim
>>533981091It’s so funny seeing people having a melty over this but not artillery, bombs, missiles or machine guns. FPV drones have tiny warheads so there barely any potential for collateral damage and civilian casualties.
>>533981459>What's the difference between a fist fight where you win, and you vs. a drone?Yeah, we need to cancel war, or go back to ww2 style.
>>533981544You should clean up London first you cock sucker.
>>533989232>loosh farmingThis guy gets it.
>>533989359because its unreasonably cruel you dumb fat gore spamming retard. if you have a folder dedicated to this stuff you just proved no one likes you and all your "pals" would use you as a meat shield against such horrors.unfortunately you're not military, and if you are you wouldn't spam this stupid shit. you're a fat coward. you happy about that new 3 dollar mcds menu fatty? eat up pig.
>>533981091if only your jewish hell was real
>>533989686>unreasonably cruelwhy is it unreasonably cruel though? see how you don't say? you just apply an adjective to it instead of make an argument, and get angry too
>>533981091This is just artillery bro. If you saw the damage a 155mm NATO airburst shell does you wouldn't be shocked by antipersonnel drones.
>>533980622Yeah shit's brutal. Changing warfare for sure. I hope the answer is juggernaut mechsuits.
>>533980622I hope russia wins because they have endured way too much not to
>>533989443It just feels more personal to directly see some peoples faces etc before being droned. Even if the outcome is the same number of bodies dead. Like all the BS in Nam with claymore, pit traps and mines was just as bad but we didn't have endless footage of it.Drone dumpster some open top vehicle. Dude has both his legs turned to mush. His friend has I assume part of his face blown off. As he reaches up, touches his face and then domes his squad mate in the head and then offs himself too. Yet I'm sure some version of that has happened in every in history war but damn. It feels so pointless in a modern world to still actively look to start any war.
>>533985712There is nothing morally evil about drones, or trenchguns, or crossbows, or any other technology. It is morally evil to invade countries and kill people. Russia is being mentioned because they can fuck off right this second and put and end to this stupid was if they choose to. Yes it would be embarrassing, but no one will then come to Russia to fuck their shit up or anything. They can simply walk away.Ukraine cannot end it without surrendering and putting themselves at the mercy of people who chose to invaded them. It is unreasonable to expect anyone to voluntarily do that. Maybe they'll eventually get tired of fighting and choose to be slaves instead, but I doubt it.
>>533982019> be WW1 trench grunt> it rains> trench foot from wet boots> infection> dieMany such cases
>>533989686>its unreasonably cruelHow?
>>533990133>It just feels more personal to directly see some peoples faces etc before being dronedIt was better when people didn't see the reality of war and the soldiers all went off to die without anyone seeing it but each other. The important thing is that the public must not see the reality of the wars their masters make...because that makes it more difficult for them to make more wars.
>>533990054>they have endured way too much not toBesides humiliation you could say the same about Ukraine.
>>533985712Man, there's been aeroplanes bombings that killed more people overnight than fpv drones in the history. Shouldnt have invaded
>>533990133>it is horrible and people don't like seeing itIt is good that we don't like seeing it. Maybe our idiot leaders will be less inclined to send us to die in some shithole if they know everyone will see how horrible it actually is and act accordingly to avoid being sent there.
>>533982101War was always about keeping normies in the dark.In WWI letters sent from soldiers to their families were screened for "demoralizing" content. Of soldiers told the truth about war their letters were tossed.
>>533983725they are big guy
>>533989881>unreasonably cruel though?There is an element of a cat playing with it's food that makes drones seem much more cruel. It's not you over there shooting at me as I shoot at you.It's also not this surprise mf'er it's an air strike that vaporizes a person instantly. It's this taunting eh..eh? Ya going to hit me? Haha no. Letting me get a few passes in for some good angles of the fear on the face annnd boom.
>>533989936The answer is not to go. You think the average grunt will get the high tech gorillion dollars mechsuit?No, the average grunt will be canon fodder as always while a few select glowniggers get the nice toys.
>>533989686Imagine being a zogbot in 2026
>>533990562So you think this "taunting" element that you yourself see for some reason in the videos means drones should be banned as a warcrime? This is your actual argument and reasoning?
>>533990293it's a matter of honorof course, a nafo troon wouldn't understand
>>533981091Sucks to lose.
>>533990629Im not saying they will give a mechsuit to all of their soldiers. Wars could be fpught woth fewer spe ialized soldiers in mech suits dropping in lile venezuela.
>>533984662> fiber optic cable> hard kill doesn't have the range> no power source for lasers> stations get hit by ARH munitions> fiberoptics againthe latest generation of ukro drones are even semi autonomous and even faster. you couldn't handle Iran from the air, if you ever enter another ground war you're toast. your hubris will be your end
>>533990629pardon my extratarded typing im touching grass and couldnt see my screen
>>533980622Infantry is like using cavalry in ww1
>>533984662PRE DEPLOYMENT COPIUM
>>533981091Eventually military technology became so good that waging warfare became impossible for living footsoldiers. The rise of the semi autonomous war machines begins soon.
>>533990760Tell me how a drone is dishonorable but an artillery round or a missile fired from 50km away isn’t
Strange how militaries have completely abandoned the shotgun despite its utility in CQB and usefulness against drones.Even when you do see the oddball using a shotgun its like they are trying to use it like a normal rifle wasting a bunch of time aiming down the sights like they know nothing about using shotguns and trap or skeet or duck shooting. I wouldn't be surprised to hear that they are using shit tier 00 buck on fast moving flying target instead of birdshot or turkey loads.The consequences of the tactitardation of shooting will be felt for many years to come and old lessons will have to be learned again in blood.
>>533991209the guy shooting the artillery can be shot back by the opposite artillery
>>533991308Same with the drone operator
>>533984270This entire war is just chabad scheme to kill as many slavic people as possible. Both putin and zelensky are puppets of chabad lubavitch. (btw now i will be banned just for telling the truth)
Wait until you find out that they're hiring Indians or outsourcing the pilots of these murder drones.This world doesn't deserve to exist.
>>533980622
>>533984662russians use small fpv drones in combination with artillery, bombs, missiles, medium and long range dronesthey created short range fronline wide killzone, as a result ukrainians are losing 10-15 dead per 1 russian now. all vehicles you mentioned were already destroyed by another type of weapon, more expensivesmall FPV drones would fuck you harder than IDF, their soldiers have much higher IQ than mutt americans lol
>>533986258>>533986258>>533986258i wanna see a movie of every nuke being launched around the world and ever time one hits the song that goes "BOOM HERE COMES THE BOOM READy OR NOT!!" while each one explodes. someone make it
>>533981091How are they different from people operating artillery, pilots dropping giga bombs on civilians, machine gunners mowing down scores of infantry from a pillbox?
>>533989359because their are thousands of videos of people surrendering and then being killed anyways. That is why.
>>533991340no, because they're far, and no one even knows whence they took offdrone faggots are just like snipers: everyone hates them and laughs at their woes, even their allies, lolof course, a poolack "converso" cum rag, raped to oblivion by dirty khazars, won't even understand the concept of dishonor, lolno wonder you started ww2 by doing the same shit in silesia as jewtrannyans did in donbass, thus starting this shitshow
>>533991501lmao, do moar like that
>>533991680But that's already a warcrime fool.
>>533981459Fight fire with fire is the only good answer.
>threadNice method to try and generate interest in a war that no one cares about.I still don't care, though.The whole war is fake, with both Russian and Western elites having agreed to gentleman's agreements decades before the war even started that this bifurcation of the Eurasian continent along the northern end (Israel/Iran achieves bifurcation along the southern end) would simply be (1) an exercise in limited warfare and (2) an effort at achieving technocratic global regionalism.This back-and-forth over which side to cheer on is itself a distraction, but a useful one because it furthers the stupid superficial culture war between "left" and "right" among the idiots who still believe that there is any real difference between the 2 sides of the left right paradigm.The war itself is moving us closer to one-world-government and the complete erasure of independent nation states. Nation states will be replaced with regions that revolve around dystopian global mega cities that are themselves ruled over by transnational corporations with no allegiance to anything.Enjoy Agenda 2030.
>>533991796you wrote up all that stuff I didn't read about how you don't care
>>533990760>Rackofhonor.jpgStill didn't explain HOW, shitskin.
>>533991703Ke you’re just a retard that was oblivious to horrors of war that got mindbroken by couple of webms on 4chins. And now you’re coping about honor and muh jews in the walls
>>533991501>ukrainians are losing 10-15 dead per 1 russian nowYet despite us seeing endless zigger meat waves they can't control the territory they added to their constitution years ago while their refineries get droned with impunity?
>>533992002I actually didyou just couldn't understandwhich both clearly shows you're a mere Mutt, and I'm an actual Human>>533992102my mind is sound enough to know that snipers and drone faggots are lowly animals, my poor khazar "converso" cum rag
>>533981091It's just the gayest form of combat yet.
>>533989686No amount of cruelty towards an aggressor is unreasonable. Nobody asked them to invade. These man have a country and homes of their own. You don't get to go on an adventure of murder and then demand to be treated with dignity.
>>533981091People who execute POWs in this manner deserve something different than death
>>533991645The real answer is ziggers and their shitskin shills love to lie about Russian casualties so they CANT STAND IT when you shove literal video evidence of their grisly/comical deaths in their faces that they then have to make pathetic copes for onlookers about.>Uuuuh it was actually a nato Hollywood war crime with pows/deserters/cgi!
>>533981091They aren't human.
>>533992245>Is dishonorable!!>How?>RACK OF HONOR!LMAO meanwhile the ziggers are honorably raping each other before getting droned
>>533992261they are truly ruining war for everybodyit's just not the same
>>533992191Where are these meat waves? I only ever see videos of single guys getting picked off. Where’s the videos of hundreds of Russians getting gunned down in a matter of minutes? Have never see anything close to that once
>>533992494>HONORyou don't even understand the concept, lol>the ziggers are honorably raping each other beforeyou're a nafotroon: you thus rape kidsso there's that
>>533992368>ziggersare the victims just like ukrainians, it's a double jewish whammy war set up as a killzone gulag
>>533992607all in all, it's just a jewish civil war for the control of their native khazaria
>>533980622Your doctored slop has been debunked, and drones are weak and destroyed easily, so cool it with your delusion, 533980622
>>533992191it was proved 100 times here, body exchanges are 30-40:1 in russian favor, real loses are around 10-12:1 in russian favorukraine has only fpv drones, russians have more of them and advantage in all other types of weapon + much better air defenceukrainians NAFO troons use meat drones made from own population to catch russian projectilesmancatchers catch them on the streets, put into trenches, barrier troopers guard them from behind and excute if they escaperussian siege tacticks is based on destruction of all that fortification from far away and sending 2-3 storm Z soldeirs to take empty trenchesukrainians are trying to catch those soldiers while they are moving to positions, that is the ONLY point when they make damagethats all, thats why it takes so long and why loses are so high from ukrainian sideall big battles already ended, now its just a huge siege
>>533992719>>533992724lmao
>>533992582there are no meat waveshence why it isn't a real warthat's the ultimate criterion, really: meat waves looking at each others in the eyes when they shoot and bayonet their foeslast real war thus was gooklandiawhich makes the youngest warriors on the planet old farts in their 90'sthose claiming otherwise are just larping fragile welfare princesses and mere goatfuckersmost don't think it be like it is, but it do
>>533992724You are spouting debunked nonsense, and this war is a russian-turkish war, not the "nafo" nonsense.
>>533981091There's a special place in hell for those invading a neighboring country to steal their land.
>>533991950>I'm pretending to be illiterateEnjoy your fake war, faggot.
>>533992724this is what z shills unabashedly peddle when the entire internet, everyone and their mothers know russians die the most absurd, clownish ways possible every day
>>533992724Is this the first war in history were the attacking side has 15:1 k/d advantage but only managed to move the frontline 40km in 4 years?
>>533993102still here caring kek
>>533992931its not russian-turkish war, there are no turks lolukrainians uses NATO tactics. most of their methods were unknown to russians lol, they came from westimpressment (mancatching) - british, french and german way of recruiting infantrylight infantry on MRAPs trying to penetrate behind enemy lines - UK and USAand so on
>>533990562If being teased, taunted or mocked by the enemy (which argably is what is happening by the way) is your big isue in war then you must be the biggest sheltered pussy faggot in the entire world.
>>533993223I was trying to educate the people in this thread who might be open to an alternative explanation of current events. I was not trying to appeal to fanatics like yourself. You're so brainwashed the you won't know how fucked we all are until BlackRock sends these one of these drones to hunt you down for failing to pay your rent for 2 months.
>>533990863>>533990863holy shit i never knew what a "NAFO was but just looked it up and you guys literally are doing this for free? hahaha wtf. wtf is a "fella"?
>>533993147not the firstin russian-turkish war russians often had 10:1 against turks as he mentioned lol>>533992931but thats old stuffi told 10-12:1 (not 15), nobody knows exacly how many ukrainians are killed and how many are desertersit was 100:1 in syria just few years before that, but enemies were much weaker
>>533981544drones also make missiles and especially artillery much deadlier than they were in the past
russian tactics - just drive over open flat field in the middle of the day right into enemies crossfirethis brilliant strategy is sure to earn 14:1 kd ratio. but with a nuance
>>533981091Ah yes, i was hoping youd post this yet again!>NOOOOOO!!! You have to wage a war in the way I, an incel NEET, dictate!!!
>>533985308So they are just supposed to let ukrainian jews murder and ethnically cleanse eastern ukraine of Christians?Some pole you are. Your ancestors would be ashamed.
>>533980622Gayest warfare possible
>>533982101jews want costly wars. Costly in goyim lives.
>>533993655I don't know what you're smoking but I want to try.
an advanced counter technology to drones - tactical assault donkeys
>>533993578Which russo-turkish war? I just checked nine of these and none of them had a 15:1 k/d, 2:1 at most. This must be the first one.
>>533993810Pall mall red. Btw I went to Sciences Po so you can try me. But I have a sneaking suspicion you are a larping French Jew like Tomer Capone
advanced tactic of improving morale. with complimentary rape. hiv included
>>533990964If you're touching grass why are you phoneposting christ
>NOOOOOOOO!!! You cant just use the crossbow, you have to fight fare with a sword like meeeeee!!!
>the second mightiest army in the world destroyed by some cheap chinese dronesIronic.
>>533981091well no shit, because war drone operators are on the same IQ level as suicide bombers. The only difference is at least a fucking towelhead is cool with dying for his retarded beliefs. Drone operators are inherently jewish, and in fact most of them are actually jewish. Their long-standing Neanderthal blood is what drives them to fight underhanded like faggots, and it is the same drive that keeps them from building anything; when you don't commit fully, you cannot build the neural pathways required to transcend to higher levels of wisdom & understanding, and thus you keep doing the same shit over & over.
>>533994106i used word often, not alwaysfor example led suvorov russians had 10:1 against turks and poles and 5:1 against french led non by napoleonor each time they had experienced commander (often)today difference is dictated by inequality in firepower & motivation and moral of soldiersboth sides started with post cold war era approach (like you can see with IDF now) and aquired experience with same speednapoleon told "In war, the moral is to the physical as three is to one" and he was artillery commander lol
>>533981091It will be AI soon
>>533980622>just shoot the drone Yes. Skill issue.
>>533994343war has become increasingly dysgenic Strength and bravery first (melee and armor) degraded to favoring some bravery but taking cover and being patient like a hunter instead of being ferocious in battle (guns) to now no longer requiring bravery or strength or the calm mind of a hunter (drone operation).
>>533981091>There's a special place in hell for the people flying these and killing people. I can only hope they get shot in the face during a live broadcast.You sound like a caveman who is pissed he got shot with an arrow when all he had was a spear. Since the dawn of civilization warfare has been the development of weapons which give you an unfair advantage.Cope
>>533994997>>533995007
>>533994806Good luckhttps://youtu.be/Z_VNnkB-i54
>>533994668So you’re talking about some specific battles that suvorov won? I am asking about the whole war, where the attacking side has 10 to 1 or 15 to 1 k/d advantage but mysteriously only managed to move the frontline by 10km a year.
>>533980622If you really want to end a conflict, you have to deal with its root causes, not just the symptoms.
>>533995029Your virtue signalling won't keep you alive. Artillery and aircraft let you blow people up from miles away too. The drone is just a more precise form of artillery that lets you guide the explosive with human intelligence. Like a guided missile that can think and update its targeting in real time. It can't be fooled with a flare or chaff like a regular guided missile. It can choose to abort and re-aquire the target if it loses tracking of the target.I am an experienced, race winning, quadcopter racer that has been doing it since 2015. I would be incredibly lethal with a FPV combat drone. I would fly it up your asshole at 100 mph.Cope.
>>533993147It’s a mostly static war so even though Russia is technically on the offense it’s actually defending its own fortified position most of the time. The front moves as fast as attrition creates exploitable gaps.
>>533990947>fiber optics lose the manuverability that makes FPVs dangerous >new APS systems already accounting for drones >tiny lasars already proven to defeat drones >having to use ARH munitions greatly increases the cost advantage drones have, making them functionly just another anti tank tool (they get intercepted anyway)>fiber optics suck see point one autonomous drones aren't magic if you can hit a human controlled fpv you can hit an autonomous one too. at the end of the day its a toy RC plane, its not a wonder weapon and it will be countered
>>533981091>artillery dropped from airplane = le good>artillery remotely controlled by some dudes a few kms away on the frontline = le bad
>>533994106USA had a massive kill to death ratio advantage in Vietnam, Afghanistan, and Iraq and everyone clowns on USA for losing all 3. We also didn't "win " the Korean war and we had a massive kill to death ratio there too. There are lots of stories of the North Koreans/Chinese zerg rushing American positions and being killed by the thousands until the Americans simply ran out of ammo and were overrun. The commie bug people had more disposable people than Americans had bullets.Nazi Germany killed way more Russians and lost.
>>533995103example - war of 1768—1774, close to 10:1, with suvorov scoring 13:1 in assaultlets stick to modern timesprofessional soldiers dont want to die, also birth rates are low to mobilize reservists, so they use volunteers, strorm Z / forlorn hope etc to siegei think modern limits are dictacted by service based economy - anything on top of what you see now will require more people payment in silver and hard assets to businesstrump cucked in iran not because usa is brown and weak but because payment to make it would be over the roofukrainians and russians had close range urban combat in buckmutt last time. it was 7:1 in favor of wagner attackers, after that warfare became gay and not fun as he mentioned >>533994997they had mix of most experiences units and strorm Z / forlorn hope
>>533995513I don't understand how this is related at all to virtue signalling and I think it's very weird how almost this exact same post >>533995007Is in every thread about drones. It's as if there's shills here or something. I couldn't give a single fuck less about either side of the war, but drones are dysgenic. Artillery is dysgenic as well. That's the thrust of my argument, that modern warfare is extremely dysgenic and I do believe that the reason modern europe is the way that it is, is because modern warfare is a meat grinder for men who charge into battle bravely and fearlessly instead of hiding behind computer screens.
>>533995908You may have had massive k/d ratio in favor in Korea or Vietnam but ROK and ARVN for sure didn’t, they did most of the dying. Afghanistan and Iraq were counterinsurgency operations.>Nazi Germany killed way more Russians and lost.That’s the point, if Russians had 15:1 ratio against Germany in WW2 they would have rolled them in 2 weeks
>>533980622>not using portable EMP It really is the answer, but fagggy Jannie will ban me for this
soliders literally get TBI from just firing a rocket launcher or firing a gun over a period of months without hearing protection just being in a war makes you retarded
>>533996060Because both are by me. I have poor cell service and ma phone posting. My ID changes all the time because my phone is probably hopping between towers. I get accused of being some paid shill almost daily because my ID is always changing. I just have poor connectivity.The idea of some romantic war fighting scenario where two gentlemen battle it out in a honorable duel is Hollywood bullshit. War has always been about getting whatever unfair advantage you can on your enemies. Like stealth aircraft launching guided missiles or dropping JDAMS. Like tanks in WWI when there were no anti tank weapons yet. Like the first gatling guns in the 1800s firing into formations of troops.War is hell. It has never been about being fair. Probably several million people have been blown up by an artillery shell fired blindly from miles away if you combine the deaths from all artillery shells in all wars. That is no more honorable than a FPV drone.
>>533995908nazi germany killed much more civilians, jews and pows than combatants - their goal was to clean the territory from local goyimactual axis combat loses are higher than ussr's, thats why they lost
>>533996139Russia gets its k/d advantage from aerial superiority. Nothing unusual about it. If one side can launch a bunch of glide bombs and the other can’t it’s not hard to figure out who’s going to lose more soldiers.
>>533996363Did you know that when men still fought with melee weapons, the VAST MAJORITY of casualties happened during the rout? There would be a skirmish, and the men who died was mostly determined by which side broke first and ran. It favored bravery and strength, not just of the individual but of the bonds between soldiers and society as a whole..Can you imagine if the average amerimutt fought alongside his fellow nigger and spic compatriots? We would rout immediately because we're socially weak. Our society is held together by mutual pleasure seeking, bread and circuses. Imagine if we were bombed like iran has been bombed. Our society would crumble ten times as fast. Thats another argument though. My time is totally wasted on you, you yourself are a drone. Barely fucking human
>>533996182throttle body injection?
>>533996513traumatic brain injury retard
>>533980622>>533992371Badly made AI slop that you misrepresenting as factual footage. Despite your delusion, drones are useless in warfare, and are easily caught and knocked down. I know this quick call back to reality frustate you but we will keep mocking your doctoring and other crap.Seeth harder, you anti-semitic troll.
Badly made AI slop that you are misrepresenting as factual footage.Despite your delusion, drones are useless in warfare, and are easily caught and knocked down. I know this quick call back to reality make you seeth, and that good since we will keep mocking your doctoring and other crap.
>>533995856>>533981459the difference is the obvious personal psychopathy of these drone operaters.Bombs and artillery are impersonal and the people launching them are not trying to intentionally cause maximum suffering and terror to other humans. They are soldiers destroying targets in a war zone with ordinance. A sniper very often DOES face vicious reprisal when captured, most ordinary soldiers have a particular hatred for the sniper as he is the hunter of men that they all fear. But at least the sniper is present, risking himself.These drone operators on both sides are very obviously getting off to an attempting to maximize the psychological/terror value of the suicide drones, while facing little to no risk themselves. An artilleryman gets counter batteried, if he is within range so are they. A pilot gets shot down by SAMs/IADS or other aircraft. Drone operators seem to present a particular mix of cowardice and personal malevolence, in particular the ones that are fucking with the targets trying to get them to kill themselves. That is sick, and I'd bet the pilots who do that are Jews or the people rewarding them for doing it are.Munitions on target is the reality of war, drone ARE just one more weapon, little different from a guided missile in terms of end effect, but the MINDSET you see on display from the drone operators is special in a very negative, hateful way.
>>533983772agree, they do seem to love going out in the open where there's no one, and walking extremely slowlywe have to imagine the explosions, and the death because the camera always cuts out at the end
>>533993538Holy shit, I didn't know what a lil bitch faggot was until I read your post. Does your mom know you take it up the ass?
>>533983772where you been?all war, russias main strat has been small light infantry groups of 2 or 3 infiltrating wherever they can get through, then radioing back they somehow survived. rinse, repeat. its worked, albeit dreadfully slowly, and with a ludicrous cost of human life. but russians fucking love dying, so its actually been sorta working out for em
>>533996487You are a retard projecting shit onto me that I never said. I also am disgusted by our modern multicultural goyslop bread and circus.Shit has been fucked since before either of us were born. Stop trying to blame me, faggot. There are plenty of examples of the timing being off in WWI charges and thousands of men being killed because some retarded general waited too long after the artillery barrage stopped to send his men on the charge allowing the other side to come out of hiding and re-establish their machine gun positions before the charge started. Literally tens of thousands of brave men heroically charged into machine guns for absolutely nothing and achieved nothing.Modern war has been horrifying since before our grandparents were born. Don't blame me because you are nostalgic for some medieval time.
>>533981459A sniper has to be out in the field with you and risk capture, has to be well trained, etc. A kid could fly a drone
>>533997035>the camera always cuts out at the endthe camera cuts when the charge goes off because the camera is destroyed with the drone and the control station loses feed.Ive seen plenty of "second angles" of obviously the same strike, shot from a recon drone flying higher and keeping tabs on a larger area.
>>533997038homosexual
>>533997137You continue your flailing, pathetic idiocy. Yes, world war 1 was also dysgenic, far more so than previous wars. As technology has increased, and war has more and more favored the weak and cowardly, it has become increasingly dysgenic. Now be silent
If one of these drone attacks happened in America it would literally cause mass hysteria
>>533997176ah yes, some of them have the convenient second camera angle. most of them don't
>>533980622Why aren't they giving their soldiers buckshot? It's like they want them to easily die from these.
>>533997227>Now be silentMake me, faggot. No amount of your bitch ass crying will stop war from getting more and more horrifying. I accept the horrifying truth while you romanticize about some bullshit that hasn't existed for centuries.
>>533997375they probably don't post the videos where the drones lose the fight
>>533997384>*No amount of your wisdom and reason will stop war from getting more and more dysgenic and gay. I accept the cock in my ass while you romanticize about some cool shit that hasn't existed for centuries.Fixed
>>533996943>noooo you can't inflict maximum casualties with cheap ammunition without exposing your own soldiers to direct gunfireI'm sure the pilots who killed thousands in Tokyo and Nagasaki were a lot more heckin wholesome
>>533997474The drones are so cheap they are disposable. It doesn't matter if only one out of 20.are successful. 20 drones are still cheaper than training, equipping, and feeding 1 soldier.
>>533997251but more than usual or less than current hysteria?
>>533997545 so cheap then they should just make a really big drone , and win the war
>>533996943>These drone operators on both sides are very obviously getting off to an attempting to maximize the psychological/terrorHow do you know?The little loops before hitting they sometimes do is to ensure a hit and avoid wasting the drone>while facing little to no risk themselvesThe vast majority of these drone operators in ukraine operate from trench shelters on the frontlineThey aren't hundreds of miles away in some office.These are low range drones, not American high tech
>>533984038Probably one of the reasons, I'm not sure it's the main one, though.Most are just butthurt belters, hohols, nafo-trannies, who suck so much at life, they're source of enjoyment is the suffering of others (that they try to paint as an inhuman enemy, in order to avoid confronting the fact, that they are the inhumans).This doesn't excuse the Russian, either, but fair's fair and credit where credit is due.Same like with Indians and Pakis (and the VILE hate), the VILE hate you see against Russians comes mostly from Ukranians and Poles and vice-versa.Obviously: You are all Untermenschen, it is laughable I should care to differentiate you, when all your actions clearly make out that Untermenschentum, regardless if you claim to be the original Russian or Bharatian or their discount versions.
Why is Ukraine always droning their own soldiers? Worried about another volley of Russian missiles?
I'd hate to be in a war and get a fucking shitty can't hit the side of a barn from inside AK slav trash. Go to a gun range and just ask anyone with one if you can shoot it. An AR you hear the spring slide up and down the buffer tube, with an AK it's a clacky feels like it's coming apart.
>>533980622A yes, typical infantry combat not at all manufactured for genocide and propaganda. A single enlisted laying alone out in the open
>>533981459It's dishonourable. Some fag in an air-conditioned room is essentially playing a video game and killing real humans risking their lives for their countries.
>>533997375>want.Don't care.Slavs in general and Russians in particular are infamous for their utter disregard for the lives of their common soldiers.Giving them proper weapons to counter the threat would cost money and training time and would cut into the embezzlement margin that every single russian officer skims from his budget. Its far far cheaper to just requisition some new mobiks and send the next wave.as long as you take a square meter of clay for every hundred mobiks you use up no one will ask questions.Literally.50,000 dead to take Bahkmut.Don't let any one draft you or join the military under any circumstances less than your own personal homeland being invaded. These people in charge of nations today will send you to die and laugh about it. They have ZERO connection to empathy for the common man. They see a line soldier die and they care less than you do when a unit dies in an RTS game.Some of them are so malevolent they ACTIVELY try to get their soldiers killed cus they are evil and think its funny.
Hohols got too cocky posting killcams pretending that doesn't happen to them
>>533997537>Brings up gay sex out of nowhereYeah, you are the gay one. Why can't you retarded cooomers complete 5 minutes of debate without your brain short circuiting to>Durrrr cock cock cockKeep blaming me for warfare that changed before either of us were born, retard. I get it, you are some weaboo that imagines himself being a samurai sword master killing men with his katana by the dozens. Go back to your video games and anime.If you go to war you are probably going to get killed by an IED, a drone, or an artillery shell fired blindly from 15 miles away. Cope. It isn't my fault, and no amount of insulting me will bring back your romantic sword fighting age.
>>533981091Russia killed a big group of them there was a video and I didn't feel any pity for any of them. Well deserved.
Is it harder than it seems shooting a drone or are they just retarded. How hard can it be, if you can shoot a clay pigeon out of the air, why can't you shoot a drone down. Are they travelling a lot faster than these webms show; I wonder how loud they are
>>533980622I Mean you really can't throw a rock or something at it?I Mean anyone remember this image? Even a fucking redneck could take out this shit with a beer bottle
>>533981091>Seething over drones but not remote controlled missilesFuck off Ukranny shillYou Should Apply
>>533993005Ukraine shouldn't even exist.
Use your brain, if there were examples of drones getting shot down do you think drone operators uploading those videos would ever let them outWhich is why you only ever see successful runs, they will never show you failures
>>533986696war has always been gay you retard that's the point. you armchair warriors screeching about how you'd fight in a spear phalanx would be one of the first to die on an ancient battlefield
>>533990562>It's not you over there shooting at me as I shoot at you.Are you calling for a ban on artillery?
>>533997538no, they were not "More wholesome" but they were also not reveling in the pain and terror they were inflicting. They did what they did to end the war and doing so saved lives on Both sides. The incineration of two cities and a quarter million civilians prevented an amphibious invasion that would have killed Millions of Japanese and tens of thousands of Americans, and an American occupation after such a brutal campaign would have seen the utter destruction of Japan as an idea.You have an Emperor and Weeaboo culture today BECAUSE we nuked them, not despite.The alternative was eradication.
>>533997872Watch the video here. It is super fucking hard. Clay pigeons fly on a predictable straight path. Even regular birds are much harder to kill than clay pigeons. That is why rich fucks actually use real pigeons at private gun clubs. They juke and change direction unlike a clay pigeon.>>533995091It isn't impossible to shoot a FPV drone, but it is damn hard.
>>533998123>you killed a lone soldier with a drone you're a psychopath!!>we flattened three of Japan's biggest cities with hundreds of thousands of random civvies killed but we did to keep ourselves from murdering more Japanese citizens so it's fineI see
>>533997900He probably missed with that bottle, and that drone was hovering, not coming straight at them at 60 mph and bobbing and weaving.
These threads have been going on for years and I still have no idea which side is dying in any video.
>>533997857I think you may actually be retarded. Why are you taking this so personally
>>533998241The incendiary fire attacks on cities like Dresden and Tokyo killed more than the nukes, but normies don't care about those because it isn't as shocking as one giant bomb.It is actually more effective to just drop thousands of what are essentially road flares all over a city at once. It causes huge fire storms that create their own winds like forest fires and the fire spreads through the whole city at like 50 mph. Even if you hide in a basement and avoid the heat somehow you suffocate because the fire consumed all the oxygen.
>>533980622Are these old videos or do they still not have that net umbrella
>>533998308its only relevant to paid ukraine shills
>>533994173based buryat boy dabbing on the weak white russian men
>>533998241We didn't begin that war and they refused to admit they lost it.They murdered hundreds of thousands of civilians across the lands they seized, including Americans. And they were determined to keep fighting and kill as many people as possible in order to get favorable terms in which they could keep the thing that had taken.They killed tends of thousands of civilians in Manila AS they were losing the city to Americans. As in they took men off direct combat to defend the city and instead had them murder men women and children in the city. Japan apologists have no ground to stand on, their behavior in every theater of that war was monstrous, and yes, us blowing the shit out of three cities to make the point that they could not possibly withstand us was an act of mercy. We could have given them what they wanted instead and simply set about methodically erasing their civilization with artillery and starvation.
>>533998308It’s literally just AI generated trash mixed with Ukrainians being killed by their own for pleas to other governments for help with “atrocities”
>>533986429War is the method by which Israel is weeding out the goyim. All countries involved in war are the ones that went to the wailing wall and sucked Jewish cock
>>533998741>We didn't begin that war and they refused to admit they lost it.Same applies in UkraineRussia started that war and refuses to admit they lost it
>>533997315no they actually almost always do, since you always launch drone attacks in waves, and ideally always have multiple backup drones ready to go in case any get shot down/jammed. they just dont put it in the compilation vids, presumably for pacing concerns (you want your agitprop to be exciting after all)also, you need a separate drone feed for verification of whats been destroyed/killed/injured so they can put it up on their "scoreboard". and since you can get bonuses for that, ppl take that shit rly srsly. thats often why youll see drone footage of them just flying over a bunch of bodies and burning tanks. theyre just there to tally up the score and/or catch any stragglers
>>533998741i consider nuclear bombing justified, eye for an eyewhen japanese started to kill civilians they should have been ready to die themselves
Why don't you guys post videos of hohols getting gored? I'm tired of seeing these cocky cocksuckers posting russians getting droned in here and acting smug.
>>533981091I hope they are burning the pilots alive. Maybe even raping them.
>>533999133Based
>>533994806Somehow I feel like a shotgun blast would work a lot better but nice aim
>>533985037Lmao. I'll bet he died in that
>>533989849Oh, it's real. So, too, heaven. Choose wisely
>>533995091These guys talk more than women
>>533991950May have saved his life
>>533999100at this stage in the war ruskies simply dont have anywhere near the lvl of sophistication or volume of drones in their drone units. i cant rly stress enough how their ENTIRE military strat rn is to just send light infantry in groups of 2 or 3 on these suicide missions. thats all theyve been doing for literal yrs now.moreover, they were extremely reliant on iran making cheap drones for them, and thats not happening anymore. china was also floating them some cheapies too on the backend, but again, that was getting shipped via irans shadowfleet to avoid the intl ire of china openly supporting russia in the war. so thats out now too. meanwhile ukros have scaled up all of their drone shit massively, and esp so in the past yr or two
>>533980622>Just Shoot the Drone Bro!Ideally before it's up your ass and turning you into minced meat. But they are legitimately hard to hit and often armored. So, yeah... be a good shot and pray I guess. Nasty position to be in.
it's about depopulation./threadZOG? more like ZOW...zionist occupied world
>>533999689How many more weeks till the ukraine gets Crimea?
>>533983355whats the context here?>>533980622I'd be panicked all the time if I were in this war. Ideally, id have 3 buddies, each of us responsible for spotting our 90deg in the sky for drones. Wed each have shotguns too.What type of explosives do these drones carry? They seem to pack a huge punch
>>533980622>missing even from 10 meters awayActual skill issue. This is case and point what happens when you ban or make it difficult to get guns and then you busify guncucks who never had any practice whatsoever to some kike war.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAkH4ZRhdWE
why not put a sniper rifle on a turret with a camera and use top tier Counter Strike players as anti-drone operators?
>>533999883How many more weeks until Russia takes Ukraine in the 3 day special military operation?
>>533989359It’s not a weapon you can realistically surrender to. If an infantry squad rolls up on you or even a tank you can drop your weapon, raise your hands, and there’s at least a recognizable process for surrender. But how do you surrender to a drone? What are you supposed to do walk back with it to the operator’s lines?There are plenty of videos showing people who are asleep, clearly wounded, or actively trying to surrender, only for a drone to fly into them or drop an explosive. The operator can’t meaningfully accept a surrender because there’s no direct human interaction. You could argue that you can’t surrender to artillery or an airstrike either, but those have a layer of distance and uncertainty. An artillery crew can’t see several miles downrange, and a pilot conducting a saturation bombing run can’t see individual targets.Drones, on the other hand, provide close-up footage often turned into shity Slav COD montages of strikes on people who can’t fight back or are trying to give up. It creates a kind of warfare that encourages more brutality, because it removes the possibility of a “proper” surrender and erodes the norms that usually govern combat.Drones are basically the the introduction of chemical weapons in WWI. All they did was make shit worse and more brutal
>>533980622Why are these soldiers always by themselves in the middle of nowhere? Why has nobody ever asked such an obvious question in 4 fucking years?
>>534000314Some people are asking questions actually. Notice a lot of these soldiers don't even have guns or a complete uniform. Apparently a lot of these gore vids are busified Ukrainians getting executed and filmed by the AFU, so that they can keep begging for 90 billion. Crazy conspiracy theory, right?
>>533995091>1 Anglo>2 JewsGood god, British Judeo-Anglo Culture is so fucking cringe and fake and gay.
>>533981091isnt showing how barbaric war actually is a good thing how do normies deal with these videos, maybe we can put putin and zelensky in a ring and they can fight to the death instead of everyone else, who would win and what are the chances theyd just gobble each others cocks anyway
>>533992296That’s how you end up in a spiral of escalating brutality. You can argue, “Well, if you attack me, then anything is fair game,” but that mindset basically invites the other side to escalate in return. Once both sides start justifying harsher and harsher actions, things get worse for everyone involved and by the end it’s mindless retard brutally in response to mindless retard brutality .Take World War II as an example. At the start of the air war, Germany focused on military targets along the English coast. Then whether by mistake or miscommunication a German bomber broke formation and dropped bombs around London. Britain responded by launching bombing raids on German cities, and Germany retaliated with the Blitz. You can say, “Germany bombed them first, so fuck em” but if that cycle of escalation hadn’t begun, both sides would likely have been better off.
>>533980622Evil, cowardly, dishonourable way to fight a war. I hope these UAV pilots are made to suffer when they are caught
>>534000612>Apparently a lot of these gore vids are busified Ukrainians getting executed and filmed by the AFU, so that they can keep begging for 90 billion. Crazy conspiracy theory, right?Maybe you should go investigate it then, retard shill.
>>533981091In WW2 when they caught snipers they would torture and cut their balls off and stuff them in their mouth. Was actually protocol to throw your rifle away and carry a sub machine gun for this very purpose. Looks like this is the evolution of that.
>>534000951Britian bombed civilian targets first, at the explict order of kike churchill
>>534000612This is deeper than my immediate suspicion and I don't doubt it. I suspected AI generated. Okay, yes there are videos of drones hitting conveys and groups... however, a large number of videos are always this lone solider a mile or two away from anything in a wide-open field. It's just too retarded to believe. Such things never happen... unless, what? The guy quit the fight and is walking back to Moscow on foot by himself. It's so stupid.
>>534001014You're the obvious shilleroo and a lot of these gore vids are staged by Zelensky Film Studios. Filming was what the kike had been doing before, anyway. Too bad a lot of these vids are just constant reposts, because you can't find more fresh meat for that anymore either.
>>534001307Yeah, he's a shill.
>>533999883look ivanif it makes you feel any better i didnt want us to be depleting our own military capability rn in favor of propping up ukraine either. were supposed to be squaring up against chinks in a few yrs, and as far as im concerned, any money spent in this is just money/material that we burned for basically fucking nothing (to prop up the EU, basically). ukraine either standing, or being annexed, has absolutely no bearing on anything to do with the US, nor even rly anything in this hemisphere. even iran has more directly to do with the US than ukraine ffs.but fact is, they dont invite me to the fucking NATO summits anymore, so theyre doing it anyways. and the cold hard truth is that ruskie drone capabilities, while dominant/competitive in the early parts of the war, have stagnated and fallen way tf behind in the past yr and a half or so. ukranian drone units are getting fresh drones shipped in from NATO cunts every day, and have the newest most cutting-edge shit around. meanwhile ruskies are having to literally scrap shit back together to make whatever they still have work. ukraine doesnt have the infinite numbers of orcs to burn that russia does, so theyve had to scale up their drone warfare to try to compensate. if you wanna get mad at someone, dont get mad at me. talk to your fucking brass. im not the one sending all these kids out on fucking suicide missions to try to seize the next-most-western wheat field in donbabwe. thats your guys doin that, to yourselves. it was a dumb idea when it started happening en masse 2-3 yrs ago, and its only gotten dumber since after the ukranians adapted to it. THATS the problem rn for russia more than anything. youre just trying to force your head through the wall with the same strat youve had for yrs, and are taking pyrrhic losses in order to do it. and instead of adapting and trying to change it up, theyve just been URAAAAAAAing headlong into it. for yrs. rly not beating that orc stereotype anytime soon
>>533999927He was "connected" and tried to resist the assault duty blackmail. So they threw in some hole and send it to his wife to transfer the money. Instead she released the video, so he's probably dead by now. Real siloviki-army powerplay bullshit.
>>533998547I'm pretty sure OP video hits are from last year. What kind of net umbrella do you think would protect you from a flying explosive? Serious question. What is the thing that you could realistically carry on long treks and it would offer real protection?
>>533981091Maybe they shouldn't have invaded their neighbor with the intention to kill them in the first placeCope. The next time Russia wants to start a war, the soldiers will have hundreds of thousands of these zigger rekt videos freely available online. Hopefully they will reconsider signing up.
This video footage reveals how a drone can fly up inside a Jews asshole and make him cum.
>>534000808Most people aren’t interested in the realities of combat. If they saw raw drone footage, their first reaction would probably be, “I don’t want to watch that, you fucking weirdo.” The bulk who would be interested in seeing it are the kind of pol brained idiots who will have a opinion on if drones are ok or not based on who is using them. Tell them it’s Russian soldiers being hit and some will condemn it as cruel, while others will cheer it on. Reverse the roles and the reactions flip. The people who respond that way tend to be the ones who view everything through a political lens rather than actually engaging with what’s happening on the ground.
>>533981091>>533996943>War rocks>but when it kills people in hateful way, that's too farI remember when this board was populated by real Nazis, not a bunch of fags.
>>533998086>calling for a ban on artillery?No being it still falls into what one would call traditional warfare. This move to personal and cheaper drones as this big equalizer VS more traditional military tactics is going to end with stronger counties going full scorched earth. I suspect the final solution to drone warfare is just nuking cities or just full gloves off mass casualty level bombings to force capitulation. Then the world will condemn the actions and maybe we see war crime trials etc. Yet it's still going to be just massive casualties. I don't think it happens anytime soon or with the current round of conflicts.But at some point if all warfare on ground is drone VS drone or even autonomous AI swarm drones etc some super power is going to look at that I Win nuke button and push it.
>>533996060Shut up nigger
>>533980622the best weapon against a drone is a baseball bat
>>534001920my bad, i forgot picrel
>>533982019Artillery is not personal, the dude who fired the round can't look into your eyes and watch you beg. Your cope is absurd. And you are gay.
Wouldn't a shotgun with bird shot be the perfect defense against these? They stray BBs.
>>534001307>a lot of these gore vids are staged by Zelensky Film StudiosIf the Ukrainian government is so desperate for troops and staff due to people escaping, why kill their own? They need as many as they can catch.>>534001384>Yeah, he's a shillWhy, because I didn't reply right away like the unemployed basement dweller you are?
>>533980622How do you even counter these things as a foot soldier?
>>533983869Is that diarrhea sprayed all over the wall?
>>534002048>War is just swell as long as you can't see the other guy beg for his lifeMy epic le samuri warrior code... war... le kills people..? What did you think war was about you stupid nigger?
>>534002048>I should be returned to russia unharmed because I crossed myself and made a sad panda facethat's not how war works, pidor
>>534002412>>534002442Drone pilots might be robots, but they will still be replaced by AI within a few decades, so enjoy it while it lasts you sadists.
>>533981904It's a cycle, you had manuever warfare that was made obsolete by modern weapons (smokeless powder enabling machine guns and dynamite enabling explosive artillery shells), then technology progressed to make manuever warfare viable again. Primarily tanks and armoured vehicles, now we're back to manuever warfare being dead again thanks to the extreme lethality of drones. Who knows what the answer to this problem is.I think the ironic thing is that it won't stop WW3 from happening. Just like the Russo-Japanese war was a perfect example of how new technology changed warfare, nobody really took note and went ahead with the great war anyway. Likewise, you have the USA and Israel rattling the sabre despite the warnings of the war in Ukraine.
>>534001812During WWII, Germany generally tried to maintain a controlled, conventional level of escalation in the West with major exceptions like the Waffen‑SS, anti‑partisan operations, and especially the Eastern Front, where both Germany and the USSR treated the conflict as a war of annihilation. Against the Western Allies, though, Germany mostly stayed within the boundaries of what they considered a restricted traditional war arguably better then they did in WWI, at least until 1944 when the situation deteriorated and Hitler became increasingly erratic.For most of the early and mid‑war period, German leadership believed they could manage escalation it’s the same reason why chemical weapons mostly stayed a interwar issue during WWII despite every side having stockpiles. Nobody ever pulled the trigger on that one. Unless you count Japan in China.The Nazis would probably think drones are shitty gangster tactics if they happened to be the first ones to have to deal with them and probably make limited use of them until the other side escalated.
>>534002538How does that sentence relate to either what I said or what you said
>>534002538good I hope AI drones hit kacaps even more effectively
>>533981091I don’t begrudge a drone operator who simply pilots his weapon to kill people, it’s just war, no different than strafing an infantry column with a fighter plane. The ones who use them to toy with POWs for snuff films deserve the most horrible deaths imaginable however.
>>534002547>Who knows what the answer to this problem is.The answer is hacking cybernetic control systems and mutual drone assassinations of heads of state.
>>534000951>That’s how you end up in a spiral of escalating brutalityYou're approaching this with the premise that the Russians didn't start off at peak baseline brutality. The intent of conquest and ethnic cleansing was there from the start. It's the intent of every conqueror. Fighting more meekly wouldn't have changed that. Do you think the Vietnamese should have fought more honourably too? That they were in the wrong not treating the americans with more dignity and that had they been less fierce, the Americans would have just backed off and went home earlier?
>>533993538>NAFO fellaIts troons. They do it out of pure hatred for humanity because they hate themselves first and foremost.
>>534002302>If the Ukrainian government is so desperate for troops and staff due to people escaping, why kill their own? They need as many as they can catch.https://busification.orgHave you seen how many of those busified people don't comply? And from what I've heard they hold plenty of them captive at military bases, not even performing any military duties. Why not chalk them up as ziggers and drop them off at the field?
>>534000951>“Germany bombed them first, so fuck em”exactly don't start none, won't be none >but if that cycle of escalation hadn’t begunand if only Ukraine surrendered on day 1 it would have been best for everyone remember, it's no longer rape when you stop resisting, now it's lovemaking!
>>534002625You know how most vets get ptsd from killing a man with a rifle? Well it's going to be much worse for the pilots. And they deserve it. I bet most will kill themselves if they aren't brutally murdered in the war. That's all i have to say.
>>534002609>How war used to be in the good ol days when we drop bombs on civilians, but at least you aren't making eye contact with themWar is about killing the other side retard. Avoiding chemical weapons made sense, because chemical weapons barely change anything in the first place, that's an escalation for no reward. Drones are more akin to, let's see, bombs and artillary. The eye contact doesn't make it suddenly violate the honorable code of war you stupid larping retard.
>>534003098You banned flamethrowers because they were inhumane. Back when society was white and still had morals. Oh well.
>>534003069>War makes soldiers unhappy>Therefore war is badOk, great! When's the hippie vegan peace rally? Can I fuck your wife, since asking me to stop might give you PTSD?
>>533981459The sniper has to put himself at risk by being physically present on the battlefield. There's also no layer of abstraction. You're shooting another human, you're not just playing a video game.
>>534003231Sounds like you're happy to die for israel
>>534002755They clearly weren’t aiming for ethnic cleansing if they had been, the situation would be far worse than it is now. Even the initial phase of the invasion wasn’t particularly brutal. The Russians appeared to be deliberately trying to minimize casualties and especially infrastructure damage, suggesting they wanted to take and hold the country intact because why wouldn’t they.Things escalated after whatever the fuck convoy toward Kyiv was supposed to be failed. That’s when Ukraine began employing more desperate and erratic tactics, along with increasingly dubious propaganda. Around the same time, Russian artillery started appearing in large numbers, and the ragtag separatist units with their makeshift vehicles were replaced by regular Russian army forces and mercenary groups.The opening phase looked like a Russian attempt at a “shock and awe” campaign one they half-fumbled and half-executed. Since then, the war has steadily degraded into a brutal meat grinder.
>>534002889>https://busification.org>google translate from Russian to English Military-grade concern trolling, lol, thanks for playing Also,>implying forced conscription wouldn't happen in Russia if the circumstances demanded itLol, lmao even
>>533981091Should've killed jews and zionist. They're behind all of this
>>533989443true, amerimutts didn't care about iranian school being bombed
>>534003196What are you even talking about, the 1980 UN decree? That's against civilians specifically, only because it's always easier to just explode them. Like, using a bomb, maybe one attached to a drone.
>>534003291>Meme flag accuses me of being Jewish aligned Wow
>>534003291Aren't all of them are?
>>534003347>google translate from Russian to EnglishYou have a language button on upper right corner, retard.>implying I imply where you would get busified fasterI figure it's up to you to visit Russia and Ukraine to see where they will busify you faster and will they even show you documents.
>>534003630Well, you are their top golem.
>>533991347It's clear that Ukraine is completely run by Jews. Russia is friendly with them because they don't need more enemies. But they are also allied with all of Israel's enemies.
>>534003098It’s not some abstract “honor code.” It’s about avoiding weapons that actively incentivize higher levels of brutality.The same goes for certain tactics or strategie once introduced, they encourage everyone to escalate because they reward greater ruthlessness. Which was my point with >>534000228>>534002917Except what should have been regional conflict only spiraled into a world war because England and France stumbled dick-first into it despite it not being their concern. It started over Danzig in Poland, yet that same Poland was ultimately handed over to the Soviets anyway who actively helped in the September 39 invasion.So was that a don’t start nothing won’t be nothing for England and France or is it different in that case because clearly those two where only trying to defend the country they threw to the wolves anyway?
>>533993147America has a 1000-to-1 kill advantage in Iran. We could kill infinity Persians if we wanted to while not taking a inch of Iranian soil.The question is, what are Russia's goals?
>>533993538you touched a nerve
>>534003928what?England and France didn't do jack shit for us in 1939 despite the 99 treaties we had with them France was enculee'd (fucked in the ass for you monolinguals) by Germany and then Churchill realized England was next so he joined the war it would have been a world war irrespective of what happened to Poland
>>534003928But you recognize surely, that just because a new weapon incentives new brutality, it's doesn't automatically mean the world even has a choice to "Just Say No". A bomb that kills the person it's aimed at and never misses is not one of those weapons we can all choose not to use. It's like crying about machine guns, or guns themselves for that matter. I'm sorry the lovey dovey war you wanted is no longer possible. It was always about maximizing ruthlessness.
>>533982133Assuming satellite communications or repeater networks are used the range can be effectively global.
>>534004673>lovey dovey war
>>534004319According to the British declaration, the entire conflict was about protecting dear, beloved Poland.>His actions show convincingly that there is no chance of expecting that this man will ever give up his practice of using force to gain his will. He can only be stopped by force. We and France are to-day, in fulfillment of our obligations, going to the aid of Poland, who is so bravely resisting this wicked and unprovoked attack upon her people. We have a clear conscienceIn reality, France did attempt to help Poland, but their army was poorly equipped, outdated, and unprepared for modern warfare so what they sent amounted to little. It was the British who effectively decided Poland could be left to fend for itself. Neville Chamberlain was still Prime Minister at the time not Churchill he came in 1940
>>533983799>If I were to shoot you in the face, at least you'd see your killerFrom 400 meters inside a brush line. Sure. Do you even know anything?
>>534004673If we’re going to pretend that history is full of governments and militaries never once saying “this is getting too brutal let’s hit the brakes,” then sure, let’s pretend war is simply a contest to see who can be the most savage.By that logic, you should open every conflict with chemical weapons and nuclear strikes on civilian centers. Medics should be deliberately targeted, with their heads displayed on the sides of tanks. White flags should function as dinner bells for ambushes. And mass rape should be taught in staff colleges right alongside maneuver warfare and delaying actions.Warfare has always had rules to avoid shit getting too bad. Drones are very likely something that in the near future will have rules develop around them.
>>533997035That region of the world is essentially just wide open fields, there isn't much decent terrain to take advantage of, it's likely one of the main reasons Russia is so invested in doctrine with an indirect-fire focus supported by entrenched lesser-trained conscripts. Maneuver warfare generally is an anomaly in the history of war only allowed in the 20th century by a lack of surveillance capabilities coupled with modern mechanization, the conventional norm has been attrition.
>>534004904>France did attempt to help Polandthoughts and prayers don't do shit>It was the British who effectively decided Poland could be left to fend for itself.please enumerate what Britain did to help us in 1939>Churchill he came in 1940and it was in 1940 that Hitler fucked France and turned his attention to England which was when England woke up and figured it's time to do something totally unrelated to Poland's situation which was by then fully occupied by the krauts and the kacaps
