Is it safe to say that society started to get worse the more we cracked down on bullying?
>>533991214leftard bullies should kill themselves
>>533991289Bullying is explicitly a right wing value, faggot. It's the acceptance of cultural Darwinism, and the understanding that all humans aren't made equal.
>>533991214its a bit nuanced. The bullying we had in the 80s and 90s was a little over the top. We were bullying loners with high intelligence instead of rat fucks who were degens. The reason it was a bad idea was because these loners are now spear heading tech today and indirectly control society. Their heads are filled with ideals by people who showed them any once of attention and those people have bad plans for everyone else. In short,>bully fags, liars, cheaters,whores>do not bully, loners, eccentrics, autists
>>533991214>Is it safe to say that society started to get worse the more we cracked down on bullying?I got 100 times worst yes. We can no longer tell people they're whores, failures, fat, dumb, or a pathetic embarrassment without the whiny mob coming after us with pitchforks. Today everyone has to feel like a winner even if they're 350 pounds with beetus, high blood pressure and infections from laying in their parents' basement for weeks straight without showering.
>>533991550It got*
>>533991386School shooters are also social Darwinism lol
>>533991512Brother, you have absolutely no idea what reality is like. The people at silicon valley WERE the "bullies" of the 80s and 90s. They're conventionally attractive, they're social, they're rich. They have a certain understanding of social sway that autists back in the day didn't.Do you think Hasan Piker was bullied? Or Ice Poseidon? Or Logan Paul? >>533991583Nope. In general, guns are bad because they TAKE AWAY the social Darwin aspect of society.
>>533991724you confuse the manipulative ceo's for the engines. The geeks and nerds that made it possible were manipulated by people with money to make it possible. I can say you are the retard who cant see the bigger picture but instead of stirring a fight im going to calmly ask that you take a second and think about it.
>>533991724Nah, if you bully someone to the point they kill you, you simply failed natural selection
>>533991859>you confuse the manipulative ceo's for the engines.The engines aren't the one with the face, dude. Nobody cares who Hasan Piker's editor is, or who Ice Poseidon's manager is. They aren't the ones reaping the social benefits.What /pol/ REALLY doesn't like to admit, is that the young frat millionaires are more dangerous to white society than any billionaire CEO.
>>533991214base it on behaviour and it's fine. but i've been attacked for what i look like all my life and it's annoying
>>533991386You sound like a loser who fetishizes dominance and violence because you are weak and insecure. That is why you idealize your target as vulnerable and isolated, because that is all you can handle. Also your whole appeal is for a group or authority to enforce this for you, because again you have always been incapable of doing it yourself. You sound like someone that would call the cops for a noise disturbance
>>533992034ok one more time fren before i call you names.>bully fags, liars, cheaters, whoresThose people manipulate>do not bully, loners, eccentrics, autiststhese people are typically geniuses who go on to invent or create.now whores can manipulate said loners via pussy. which said pussy can be manipulated by those with money, those with money are good at social life, lump in all the other crap and you get sick individuals who parade themselves as normal and functioning who can weaponize the engines. The nerd never cared about niggers, fags, ideals. All they cared about was DnD and girls. Jingle the keys in front of them and they are yours.
>>533991214I'm in 9th grade now and I've never encountered bullying, everyone just sits there staring at their phones
>>533992305I'm telling you, generally geniuses are NOT eccentric or autistic. That's a thing made up by movies to make the consumer base feel good. Generally the respected people in society are the bullies.>>533992287Everyone values dominance, even on a subconscious level.
>>533992614Truly it is summer
>>533992627so you are saying jewish intellect, sophism, is the merit of intelligence and not a guy alone in his basement tinkering in tech you smell of kike behavior. I would say bully jews, but they are the bullys. And you are a nigger retard.
>>533991214It wasn’t that. It was when social media went to phones.It fucked up peoples brains really badly. It’s one of the reasons they’re obsessed with conforming so much.
>>533992830>so you are saying jewish intellect, sophism, is the merit of intelligenceThat's...literally the opposite of what I'm saying.Human beings should be valued as a WHOLE. Just because you have one eccentric autist who can solve a math problem, it doesn't make them a well-rounded human. We want the best of both worlds.And, I'm sorry, if you actually experienced bullying as a kid, you would know that those bullies most likely had better grades than you.
>>533991214No. Bullying is still happening. There's 1 more way to bully with internet access. The "crackdown" on bullying is not real. It's school admins trying to save themselves from liability. It only has to look like they're doing something.
>>533992627>Everyone values dominance, even on a subconscious level.No they don't. You do. And you project your insecurity onto others. Everyone values strength, which is a matter of self-dominance. You do not have these things as evidenced by the fact that you externalize them into a group or authority. It's not your fault though. You are a loser because you were raised by losers and were provided a poor education and modeling around these aspects of life
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females are still 100% allowed to bully and it is even encouraged. the truth is that they cracked down on males bullying solely.
>>533993190>No they don't.Yes they do.>>533993196Absolute cope. The food chain is just that - a chain.
>>533991386It's a fag value.
>>533993417>Yes they do.Lol the fact that that is all you can say is just more evidence of your weakness. You can't push back against even a single point. Say hi to the wife and kids for me. Oh wait...
>>533993417you claimed people like hassan are geniuses, maybe you are just retarded and dont realize anyone can hook up a webcam and talk to a screen. it doesnt take actual intellect to do that. What it takes is a high level of sophism and being a people person. Hassan piker was never a loner outcast, he was a privileged retard in high middle class.Literally every single face for any company or ideal pusher is just that, someone who can talk good. Not someone who sits in their chair and programs millions of lines of code to make a rock do something. You have an incredibly skewed idea of what makes somebody worth something. You base your entire reality behind popularity and group think. You are the manipulated retard and you don't realize it
>>533993696Why do states exist? Why do nations exist? Why does literally any power imbalance exist if it's not some intrinsic part of the human experience?>>533993710>you claimed people like hassan are geniuses, maybe you are just retarded and dont realize anyone can hook up a webcam and talk to a screen.Yes, but not everyone can capitalize on that. Not everyone can build a business off of that. Not everyone has the charisma to pull it off. Not everyone has the connections or the wealth to pull that off (sorry, as much as /pol/ likes to cry, wealth IS directly caused by intellect).
>>533993839alright than leaf, why arn't you rich
>>533993981I am. I own shares in a popular internet management company.
>>533994030i accept your defeat. Have a good day fag
>>533991214We never "cracked down" on bullying. It's far worse now to the point where it's outright accepted. Look up suicide rates in young boys/men since 2010 when everyone started talking about "incels"
>>533994345>Look up suicide rates in young boys/men since 2010 when everyone started talking about "incels"That's just a sign of men becoming softer and feminized, and normalizing victim culture.
>>533991214I don't know about all that but it's pretty funny that it created a generation of 4chan users who earnestly believe they would have been the tough guy bullies if the system wasn't holding them down maaaannn
>>533991214What kind of mental illness do you have? There never was a crackdown on bullying on any kind. It's far worse than ever before, you moron.
I'm okay with bullying as long as they make it legal to shoot someone in the face for talking shit.Wanna talk shit with your buddies about the quiet loner, okay. But don't come crying like a bitch when the consequences of your actions come back to you.It would be amazing how quickly civility and honesty would return to society when your life is on the line.
>>533991870Pro bully retards have their brains broken by this concept>Let's be so antisocial as a tribe that it creates angy violent mentally unstable retards that cull the most psychotic and "fittest" amongst usActual health societies value collaboration and accepting people differences when it causes no harm because they can benefit people by actually feeling the need to contribute vs wanting to burn down the whole system
>>533994539Also true, duelling with pistols would weed out the most destructive people on both sides of the spectrum
>>533991214absolutely not. bullying is very mean>B-BUT MUH DOMINANCE! BULLYING IS LE BASED OR SOMETHINGgive me 1 arguement as to how its masculine to pick on someone who isnt able to fight back, the real masculine urge is to help someone who is weak, especially if that person has white skin
ITT: dweebs with literally no power in their personal lives living out a power fantasy in their heads
>>533994763>give me 1 arguement as to how its masculine to pick on someone who isnt able to fight backIf you couldn't understand this as a man, how will you understand this concept now as a tranny?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CohwTDWOEYk
>>533992287you sound gay. get bullied faggot cock sucker
>>533993839The existence of inequality and imbalance does not imply dominance and exploitation. That is your own little complex projected onto the world. The existence of inequality and imbalance is nothing more than the natural order of change. Things growing stronger and things growing weaker due to circumstance and will, which itself is a product of circumstance which is always changing. It is a matter of strength, which is a matter of self-dominance. No Nation or power arises without self-dominance. And those that lose sight of self-dominance in favor of dominating others inevitably fail, and often quite quickly on the time scales of History. Furthermore self dominance within a society is not the dominance of the state over the people but the people's dominance over themselves as expressed through the state. And again, the reason you overlook such basic Dynamics and maxims is because you and your upbringing were completely bereft of them
>>533994951>The existence of inequality and imbalance does not imply dominance and exploitation.It's not JUST the existence of inequality, it's literally the downsides/benefits of inequality. If I am stronger than someone, what benefit is there - outside of law - to not just beat the shit out of them for fun?You retards need to learn a bit more about psyche, and the difference between the Superego and the Id.
>>533991214Yeah I can think of a few actual reasons the schools are shit but those are way more boring and obvious than... "bullying"
Bullying is generally pretty bad because it carries a lot of weight in someones growing periods and they tend to come from already shit homes and family.Bullys tend to also which is where they pick up the habits and low self-esteem. Only pure assholes should be bullied.>t.was a bully but saw my error in highschool.You can be friends with the cool kids and autists.
>>533994821are you talking about yourself anon? this entire thread is you pretending as if you are le stronk alfa mail!!! when you are an absolute loser nigger retard judging by the way you talk>>533994893>no arguementanon, it doesnt matter how many manlets you flex your mediocre gains on, your penis is ALWAYS going to be small it VILL NOT grow
>>533994934Read the thread you fucking shit skin. Everything that op has written testifies to what I said.
>>533995065>bullies grow up in a bad home so its actually okay if they make other peoples lives hell for literally no reason!that arguement is so shit and leftist suicidal empathy coded. like bro nobody cares if your dad beat you as a kid or that your mom called you a fag one time, we all went through shit like that, THUG IT OUT (white boy style)
>>533995707hey retard, I didnt say it was good at all.
>>533995055>what benefit is there - outside of law - to not just beat the shit out of them for fun?Because they have better shit to do with their time. Because those people are stupid, and stupidity is weakness. The reason they're stupid is because they misuse their time and their strength. Those that have actual strength spend their time competing with others who are strong in order to gain things and refine skills that further strengthen themselves. The idea of domination for fun is nigger brain bullshit that is only upheld by people and Nations that are abject failures
>>533995810I didnt say that you said that. I heard other people say that one time, they were white women obviosly, nobody else is bird brained enough to say something like that
>>533991214I performed music at a theater this weekend and the green room was in a middle school. There were anti-bullying signs all over the place, so many. I was looking at the stuff posted outside the classrooms and there it was, two men in dresses, teachers at the school.My daughter noticed all the anti-bullying stuff and there's none of that shit in her rural elementary school, she pointed it out and asked what's the difference between bullying and being disrespectful to your peers? I told her, "bullying is when you point out a boy wearing a dress and doing therian quadrobics with tail looks dumb as hell." And she said yeah, but if nobody tells them, they'll never know what people actually think. Just because you can't say something doesn't mean it's not true. Even a fucking 8 year old knows the difference between, "bullying" and being a malicious asshole. I bet the people behind that anti bullying shit at that school were literally adult faggots in dresses trying to convince children not to bully them with reality.
>>533991214Society broke down when we stopped scaring our children with consequences and punishmentBullying does actually work, fear is good for kids, but it needs to come from elders not peers
>>533996237And then everybody stood up and clapped.
>>533993363>females are still 100% allowed to bullyThis is mostly true but female bullying is so much harder to police and so much worse. Where a dude might bully someone by punching them in the ass as they're walking up the stairs, a girl bully will pretend to be friends with another foid just to chip away at her sense of self worth and push her into humiliating herself to the entertainment of an in-group. My first girlfriend was fed shots by a friend of hers at a party and by the time I showed up she was laying next to a pile of puke with a shart stain clearly visible on her panties, maybe it was period blood, idk, it was gross though. Her friend was in the bathroom cackling and I already heard from another friend she was egging her on all night to drink and embarrass herself. Only time I ever hit a woman, I closed the door to the bathroom, slapped the shit out of her friend and told her if she spoke about this I would get my girl's older sister to beat the living shit out her. Carried her out of the party and brought her drunk ass back to her parents' house for her sister to deal with. Her friend apologized and they stopped hanging out. Fucking foids hate each other over all else.
>>533996308brown dysgenic hands
>>533991214Anon, we made bulling follow kids home 24/7 with social media. That shit is an epidemic. Now even teacher are getting porn made out of them with AI.
>>533991214>implying anyone has ever cracked down on bullying or on anything else bad about schoolsFaggot, public schools are the place where you bully one another for 20 years, graduate with worthless degree, go out with student debt, and then work at fast food or a factory. Always have been.
>>533996250Bullying is bullying no matter if it comes from peers or elders. You just won't see your kids on Christmas after they move out. Many such cases.>b-b-b-b-but muh constructive punishmentsCan't have those when you are stuck at the wage cage for most of the day and your in the meantime your spouse watches TV and fucks niggers on the side and both of you have zero idea what your kid is doing, can you?
>>533991214White on white bullying was cracked, brown on anybody really is still OK, even encouraged and never punished.Social bullying is encouraged when it is for the "right cause". They even made a videogame about it on taxpayer dime
>>533991386Ok but if reality is how this chart portrays it, then how come the supposed right wingers in your example got their faces caved in by the left wingers in your example in WW2?
>>533999080Jews pulling the strings used right wingers to kill the nazis.
>>533991214Look at this poor man and ask that again. I hope you’re happy with yourself OP…
>>533991214No. Bullying being a good thing is a meme. There is no benefit in long-term exposure to hostile environments. Those who fight monsters are at risk of becoming monsters themselves.
>>533998754I didn't just mean parentingI mean in all walks of life, especially schooling. When kids stopped respecting their elders they also stopped aspiring to be like them. Why would a child emulate something it doesn't respect? It's just one of many reasons why we're living in a infantilised society. Human beings don't grow when they constantly get their way, it's just not who we are
>>533991214No. Stupid 50 year old niggers who wear football jerseys think bullying is right. And nothing they think is right.But seriously, bullying is done by average retards. So the wrong people are bullied. Anybody who is collaborative and friendly should not be bullied. Anybody who is arrogant and self absorbed should be bullied. The average American retard thinks the exact opposite. Celebrities and athletes and streamers are the best people. Only draconian government control could fix ingrained stupid American values.
>>534002206>When kids stopped respecting their elders they also stopped aspiring to be like themYou perfectly summed up a phenomenon that was so weird to me. >Shitbag kid>Hates teachers who criticize him>Likes cool teacher who's cool to him>Shitbag kid continues to be shitbag instead of adopting cool mannerismsI hate feeling like my niceness is wasted on people. A 40 year old nigger bitch working at McDonalds annoyed me so I reported her to corporate. I'm younger and make more money than her but I can be cordial. She acted as ignorant as any 15 year old nigger bitch. Like what's the point of these people.
>>533991214There were a lot of other things which happened concurrently, so even if it correlates, it isn't necessarily the cause, and almost certainly isn't the sole cause. For instance spanking became far less common around the same time, as did kids being allowed to play outside. Meanwhile the internet became popular and it was a new generation of parents.tl;dr no telling, but it's probably not the sole cause
>>533991214Everyone goes on about pedophilia these days. School bullies fucked me up in the head so much that I don't care about pedophila. Because caring about that starts with the presupposition that children are inherently good / innocent. I know otherwise.
