this makes red pressers irrationally angry
>>533995451red = talmudic jewsblue = golden rule humansthe choice is clear.>hurr blues are the ones introducing riskno, you're the one shifting the bare minimum civic duty a civilized society asks of you onto the rest of the risk pool to fill, you midwit doublenigger. you're not an epic alpha wolf, you're a golem selling out your countrymen piece by piece just for a guaranteed scrap from the jew's table.
>>533995451off topic
>>533995451Basically humans are inherently good and this pisses off nihilists and third worlders
>>533995451So which premise of this question is the most difficult to answer? The meme keeps changing.
>>533995668>>533995777no basically humans are stupid and you think it's a good thing that our species is continuing to get more stupid by keeping the dumbest elements aliveyou aren't altruistic, you're midwit morons keeping even more retarded people alive because you can't see the future this line of thinking creates
>>533995451Why would anybody be angry? Touch grass
>>533995451I'm not risking it so I'm not gonna take any chances. I'll press red and if blue wins good for them I guess. No point in pressing blue except to make people who pressed red feel bad in case you die like a retard (not my problem)
>this retarded twatter bullshit poll being spammed every fucking 10 minutesi want to push a button erase every single one of you retarded fucking faggots posting this shit
No clue what you think you even mean. It would be a relief that all those people who pressed the wrong button survived by chance. Very lucky!
>>533995849>>533996070It's a cryptocurrency scam. That's why it keeps getting posted here.Many of the "forced" memes that keep getting posted here are cryptocurrency scams.
>>533995451Why would it?If you push red you survive no matter what happens?
>>533995777not exactly. the nihilists and third worlders are VIOLENT nihilists and third worlders. you only pick red if you want to get other people killed. and that fundamentally dark realization makes reds seethe and cower
>>533995928>no basically humans are stupid and you think it's a good thing that our species is continuing to get more stupid by keeping the dumbest elements alivethe red cries in pain as it strikes you. tell the truth rednigger, you aren't pushing red to save yourself, you're pushing red to kill masses of good nature blues. you're a vocal minority in these red blue polls, own up to your jewishness
>>533995451>press red>win either wayLol>madLmao
>>533995451Why not choose the mathematic certainty that A. You won't dieB. If everyone just voted like you they won't die either. The risk or cause of death is voting blue at all
>>533995451it was an open poll that got to nearly 50/50 despite being on twitter. and once it passed the threshold, everyone could clearly see and then voted blue when there was no risk
>>533996698>by a threadwe've elected presidents for a lot less lmao
>>533996663>mathematic certaintyLol, lmao even. Normalfags operate more on feelings than logic, even when it comes to things like voting.
>>533995451This whole thing feels very Jedi v Sith.
chunk of people are psychos
>>533996853Voting blue is the only thing that causes a risk of death. Given there will always be a split vote on everything, voting blue means you want ppl to die.
>>533995777I WANT the blues to die though
>>533996070so what. it has spawned the first real discussion I've seen here in a long time.
>>533995777>Basically humans are inherently goodHumans are as good and moral as the world allows them to be. Take away all those modern comfort and watch them kill each other for basic resources for survival.
Well it is obvious because this is a fictional poll, you don't die either wayBy picking blue you are virtue signaling, thus get brownie points by twatter liberals and retarded /pol/postersBy picking red you only signal 'selfishness' Probably most people want to look virtuous rather than selfish thus picking blue is rational
>>533995668>golden ruleNigger doesn't realize communism was instilled by the state at a very young age.
>>533995451>>533995668Someone explain this psyop to me. Just more softening of western opinions, like always?>>533995777Logical.
>>533995777The path to hell is paved with good intentions.You just offed yourself for no logical reason.
>>533995451What's a red presser?
>>533996322The blue button fags kill themselves lol. Just like the (((climate change))) retards impoverish themselves for a problem that doesn't exist.
>>533995668You literally dont lose or condemn anyone to death if you select red, period, no cap, fr lol
>>533995668>golden rule humansI want them to press red and I hope they would want the same for me.
>>533995451Not taking the vax, not pressing the blue,But there is also absolutely nothing you can do.It rhymes and makes trannies like OP mad
>let's keep all the retarded low IQ niggers alive so they can keep on committing crimes and dragging down society
>>533998866>everyone must choose either red or blue button>if the majority choose blue everyone lives>if you choose blue and the majority choose red you die
>only brown people push red>blue is the white man's choice>dumb third-worlders pick red enlightened first-worlders pick blueDo bluefags not know that white westerners are a tiny global minority or is this a tacit admission that they know that pressing blue is a death sentence but they want you to do it anyway?
>>533995668
>>533996698WTF why would anyone press blue button?blue is gamble when red is sure choice
>>533999454>we will overcome the virustogether>we shall not kill grandma by refusing the jewce.>It only works if everyone gets it because reasons>just two weeks to flatten the curveFuck off, kike
>>533995451>>533995668>>533995777>if you press red you are 100% sure to live no matter what>if you press blue you might diepressing red doesn't mean you're smart, but pressing blue DOES mean you are a retarded npci fail to see how pressing blue makes you good in any way
>>533996698>It doesn't count because I say soReds when you tell them they don't get to kill half the people on earth
If blue doesnt win i dont want to live with a bunch of red pushers anyways
>>533999858make sure you get extra boostered then in the next scamdemic the kikes pull.
>>533999774>if you press blue you might dieDon't threaten me with a good time.
>>533995668>>533999454kys
>>534000087are miggers actually blue button pushers because they voted to die for israel?
>>534000087I am enjoying this meme format.
>>533995451why would red be mad they didn't risk their life?
i can understand red's point, but i think they're still fags
>>533995777>joining a suicide cult proves you’re a good personPeak bluegger cope.
>>534000980That's how i feel about most of their political takes, Like i can understand some points but they're all man children faggots and I'd rather keep my mouth shut than be seen agreeing with them.
>>533999454We will make a memorial to your carbon footprint donation
Do you think that all children, toddlers, infants are going to press red? What even is your life if you are required to sacrifice millions of innocent children, blind/color blind people, and anyone who doesn't understand game theory puzzles, just to go on living in a post apocalyptic world. Red is a cowardly vote for the death of innocents. You can argue that human instinct will lead many rational, isolated, distrustful adults to press red (probably me included if it really comes down to it), but you can't argue that it is the moral thing to do if you actually take a second to think about what is happening in the other 8 billion private button rooms.
>>533995451You do realize that red voters don't care who wins right? They get to live either way. They passed the test the moment they hit the button lol
>>533995451Why don’t blues understand that red pushers do not care at all about the outcome? Only blue pressers can suffer a negative outcome. Best case scenario for blues is the only outcome for reds.
>>533999858Blue cant win. You either are kill yourselves or a bunch of other. The answer is to do nothing and win (red)
>>534001079>t. literal socialist loser
>>533995668>>533999454look at this fucking nigger kike goblin. lmao I am proud this is the last post b4 going to bed
my mommy would press blue so I'm pressing blue it's that simple chuds
>>533995451doesn't bother meas a red presser I suffer no consequence if blue winsi only suffer a consequence if I press blue and red wins
>>534001277Tried being less of a man child faggot?
>>533995668I can’t tell if this is first-rate bait or there are that many actual literal retards on pol.
>tfw you press blue then shill the red button onlineIm playing this game on levels you can’t even comprehend
>>533998551Shitty political analogy reveals a majority of humans has an underdeveloped prefrontal cortext and can't be trusted to make a rational decision even if their own life were at stake
>>534001167I will not let a person I hold dear take a 50/50 chance of dying. No sane man could tell a family member to flip a coing for survival instead of taking the 100% chance.
>>533995451Red pressers should be rounded up and sent to a summer camp with a pool, an orchestra and a nursery.
>>534001553The original dilemma with the poll states that the rooms are private. So as much as you'd like to prevent your dear friends and family from pressing blue, many will, and a red presser is someone who either does not have friends or family, is too stupid to consider them, or is just a coward.
>>534001298Your mother is a street shitting animal
>>533995668Exactly my thoughts, the red faggots complain about there being no trust in society while having zero trust in their fellow men. TL:DR version: red fags are pussies.
>>534001569There are two types of red pressers. The first understands that anyone with two brain cells will press red and no harm is done to anyone, and if anyone is tempted to press blue you can just explain why this is not a “prisoners dilemma” type deal.Then there’s the niggers who’ll press red thinking “yo I ain’t risking my ass for you bitch”.Like Scott Adams said: accidentally right.
>>533995451>>533995668dumber than a nigger
if you dont press red you're basically just a dumb guy
>>534001890>So as much as you'd like to prevent your dear friends and family from pressing blue, many will, and a red presser is someone who either does not have friends or family, is too stupid to consider them, or is just a coward.anon don't just give them the answer like that bro
>>534001890I don't mean phisically hold their hand. I mean telling them they're wasting their life if they vote blue.
>>534001406take some personal responsibility, you fucken entitled poof
>>533995777>Humans are inherently goodMassive doubt, possibly the most faulty of all assumptions. The state of the world is more than enough evidence to the contrary.
>>534001890If my friends or family are blue pressers, they can just die
red button sinners are such cynical misanthropic and sad creatures that they automaticallys assume blue button equates with suicide instead of equating it with hope, something greater than the individual life and understanding of the human condition.
>>533995451>>533995668This is a psyop to trick you into pushing BLUE when the Day of the Push comes
>>534002191>take personal responsibility for me being a man child faggotspoken like a true man child faggot.
>>534001890And why would the press the suicide button exactly?>>534001951>zero trustI trust my fellow man will make the logical and correct choice
>hurr durr I'm pressing blue because if everyone isn't automatically saved then I'd rather not be savedGod doesn't work like that, self-fellating humanists
>>534002235blue button faggots are such vain chronically online freaks that they automatically assume they will get virtue points for signaling that they'd take the illogical and retarded position in a pointless, half-baked hypothetical.
>>534002246>day of the pushfucking kek
>>534002235Are you like a woman?
Thought of another dilemma thing
>>533995451It's literally up to you to save yourself by pressing red. Who the fuck is "saving" anyone by pressing blue? Other than other blue pressers <50%? I don't get it.
>>534002277>socialist>calling anyone a manchildFuck me irony is lost on blue fag ideologues
>>533998932Literally the “No one forced you to get vaccinated” argument. No, no one was forced, just shunned, threatened and coerced. We told you what we were going to do before hand so we don’t have to deal with karma. We have a telephone that you have to put a peg into so we can make phone calls on the sabbath.
>>534002426Blue always kills more people in this case, so it'd be mad to choose it.
>>533995668lolGoyim are so dumb I can't even
>>5340024501:1 perfect analogy
red presseers are antisocial sociopathic narcisistic spiritual kikes and should be put in labour camps
>>533995451>If I don't steal it somebody else steal it!Sorry for your worldview, my semitic neighbor
>>534002378I press the blue button to save your family. I forgive you.
>>534002470Have you tried not being a man child faggot though?
>>533996322Why are you sperging out over some f tier ethics gotcha? >>533999454I don't relate to this at all. In fact, the innovative people who pushed humanity forward weren't met with cooperation, but scorn. Socrates was sentenced to death. Galileo was excommunicated. Lincoln was assassinated. The people who push real tangible progress are usually assassinated. You meme falls flat because people who try to understand the universe or progress humanity are always hated and scorned by the majority during their lifetimes.
>>534002465imagine if one more person votes red than blue and all the blues die. is that their fault suddenly because it's <50%?
>>534002546you lost tranny
>>534002563they all pressed the red button, though, so now you're dead
>>534002592it is their fault for putting themselves in the position where they could die for no good reason whatsoever
>>534002546Imagine being this angry over some lame ethics gotcha that is essentially meaningless without real stakes, and more of a mathematical literacy test.
>>534002585You do appreciate that collectivism is the social system for spiritual bitches, right? I wouldn't expect a typically oversocialised, emasculated anglo like you to understand that though. You don't know any better.
>>533995451Don't make me do it faggot!!.
>>534002699i made this thread to make super serious red pushers seethe retard-kun
>>534002545If someone would add president Xi’s face on the bystander, that would just be great.
Red: I make rational choices about my own safety, and I expect my friends, family and most strangers to do the same as well my predators.Blue: I will cause problems in a suicidal manner and compel people to take action about said problems so long as I can call myself good and Red evil at the end of the day.
>>533995451apply simple game theory to this >push red 100% chance of living>press blue, not 100% chance of living
>>534002856just imagine a world in which you press red but all your friends and loved ones die because they chose blue. how would that make you feel?
How fucking atomized are blue pressers? Do you have no one who relies on you? No family? Risking your life so you can feel good about how moral you are is incredibly selfish unless you are a completely isolated loser.
>>534002235>>534001951>>534001890I actually don't give a shit if you or your family live or die. Truly. And I know you hate me and my family. Humans are wicked vile creatures which is why the world is evil. One only needs to drive on an expressway to see what evil retards the average human is. The one part about God in the old testament I will always understand is when he saw all the evil people and was like "fuck it you're all gonna die". I feel that deep in my bones. I get it. Can relate.
>>534002592I'm not sure who is "their" in your second statement. I would say that it's nobodies fault because the two options are laid out very simply. Everybody voting knows exactly what's at stake. That's why I would press red.
>>533995668As a proud Red Presser, I come from a dog-eat-dog kind of world so literally fuck em and I have no reason to virtue signal over my choiceI care not of what others think of me, especially if they die as a consequence of their own choices. I have no duty to sacrifice myself for others who are not my blood, and at that it’s conditional.
>>534002426Red = 50% chance of survivalBlue = 25%No reason to vote blue
>>534003021OBVIOUSLY they are childless, (or they have kids and hate them and are terrible parents) pressing blue is the most childless behavior imaginable.
I choose to press blue. I do it for 2 fundamental reasons1. I believe people are inherently good.2. I don’t want people (even red pressers) to die.If the majority choose red and I die that means that I gambled on humans being good and lost. Had i have chosen red I’d be living in a world where everyone is self serving and low trust. I’d be atomized even worse than people who have to live in diverse neighborhoods.
>>534002200>If my friends or family are blue pressers, they can just diethe red reveals its true jew form
>>534003122you will be venerated as a holy martyr anon in this life and the next
>>534003021You do realize that not all children have a good understanding or capacity to comprehend game theory puzzles right? You want to argue its moral to risk their lives rather than your own?
>>534002973The fault would be on the person forcing people to take the test (and presumably do the mass murdering if not enough people press blue), which is why this is an F tier ethics conundrum.
>You find a blue button. You can either press it or not. If fewer than 50% of people press it, anyone who pressed it dies.Well? Do you press it?
why are you taking part in this gay and retarded psyop?
>>533998079This is a compelling discussion if you are 16 or have brown skin
>>534003271Because it's fun. I know it's a distraction, I don't care.
>>533995668fpbpit's no coincidence that the question is framed as reds killing people and blue keeping everyone alive.
>>534003241what if it's just a twist of metaphysics? a natural phenomena where there is no higher authority to blame
>>534002805That's nice, have you tried not being a man baby faggot though? You're trying to avoid answering the question but you're just making it obvious you haven't.
>>534003122No, you believe people are stupid and need saving. Convid taught me how much of a threat masses of stupid, man-worshipping people are to me so fuck them and theirs now.
>>534003244>>534003315kill yourself
>>534003226So part of this F tier ethics question is the the testee can't ask questions and will be uninformed about their choice, so I'm other words this question is set up to be intentionally misleading and have people no understand what their choice means? That's why this is a stupid ethics question. In this idiotic context, I'd push red just to improve the gene pool.
>>534003271>durrr psyopyou're jumping at shadows.
Blue is SklavenmoralRed is Herrenmoral
>>534003367an hero, retard
>>533999612game theory fags BTFO by basic laws of reality.
>>533995668>b-b-b-but you’re supposed to put yourself at risk to save those who endangered themselves!Nah, and desu the world would be better off without faggots like you in it trying to weaponize empathy to open the borders and shit. So that just gives me extra motivation to press the red button
>>534003190I keep seeing this argument coming up from the red pressers where they accuse blue pressers of virtue signalling. like we’re only doing it to look like good people. The argument has come up so many times that it leads me to believe that red pressers don’t believe in genuine altruism.If you live in a world where no one is altruistic because they think everyone else is self serving, you’re living in hell.This is true of classic narcissistic personality disorder. They act the way they do because they think everyone else does as well.
>>534003226It's immoral to try to convince a child to vote for his own potential death. It's also immoral to vote for your own potential death when a child depends on your wellbeing.
>>533995451Red pressers are unfamiliar with the prisoner's dilemma. In the context of the twitter post there's no downside to everyone choosing red, in the original dilemma its not as good as everyone picking blue. Reds snitch in exchange for leniency for their prison term but everybody goes free if no red snitches.So basically its a stupid, flawed post and the real losers are us for talking about it.
>>533995451>>533995777this is performative, people are so quick to lie when there's no consequence>would you push the GOOD button or the SELFISH button?>normie: the good button of course!now do the same thing but with a REAL risk of losing money (not even their lives, just money)
>>533995451>blue is the only button that kills if pressed>somehow you re the good guy for pressing itWha-?
>if red wins, 50% of the red pushers dieThere, now there is an actual choice
>>534003401seethe :)
>>534003490If it was real life instead of a hypothetical, you would choose the guaranteed safe option instead of risking your life for Redditors. Not gonna read whatever cope lies you spin to try and convince people otherwise
>>533995451MAYBE THE BUTTON IS RIGGED AND MAGICALLY SHIFTS RED SENTENCING EVERYONE TO DEATH?BEFORE THE BUTTON COMPLETES A MASSACRE YOU GO KILL THE OWNER AND SAVE EVERYONE.HIT THE RED BUTTON SO YOU CAN FOCUS ON GETTING GUNS SPREADING AWARENESS AND TRAINING WITHOUT DISTRACTIONS.CONVINCE YOUR ENEMIES TO HIT THE BLUE BUTTON IN CASE YOU FAIL TO STOP THE MASSACRE.
>>533995451suicidal empathy
>>534003490much needed truth missle
>>534003498like how that banana on the wall pissed everyone off so it became art?
>>534003341Then that's pretty much just life where obviously the red button is pushed all day everyday and nobody even considers the blue button. Humans aren't good, in case that wasn't clear. Humans are the most evil vile and dangerous animals on this planet by a significant margin, and all the evil in our world is because of our evil wicked nature. Just consider that there is a sizeable portion of people for whom the law is the only mechanism keeping them from acting out their barbarism, and when given the chance to be evil and not be caught, most take it. You only need to drive down the expressway to see how evil, uncaring, selfish and dumb the average person is (until they pass a patrol car (representing the law) then everyone acts good, and once they are out of range of the patrol vehical, they go back to being awful)
I would press red. If there’s one thing I learned from the shoah is that survival is the most important virtue and it doesn’t matter over how many bodies you step as long as you are still alive, even if your are up to your neck in the blood of children. Red button is the only rational choice. What kind of person endangers themselves for the good of others? What am I, a goy?
>>534003498>So basically its a stupid, flawed post and the real losers are us for talking about it.Yes and no. The only losers in this thread are the too serious "red pressers" getting uppity
>>533995451I'm guessing this was a generic color question and people got confused with politics so they think it's Democrats/Republicans.
>>534002156>I don't mean phisically hold their hand. I mean telling them they're wasting their life if they vote blue.>It's immoral to try to convince a child to vote for his own potential death. It's also immoral to vote for your own potential death when a child depends on your wellbeing.Yea obviously I agree with you in the room temp IQ interpretation of this dilemma where you able to prepare and cooperate with everyone on the planet prior to and during the buttoning.
>>534003345see my second post>>534003490Not only are you self serving and believe everyone else is too. You used the media coverage of covid to get to that conclusion. I was partying with my friends every weekend during covid and no one called the cops on us. And even if someone did, I don’t accept the position to judge them and condemn them.
>>534003490You're rationalising needlessly throwing your life away by assuming that red pressers are narcissists rather than logical.
>>534003490>If you live in a world where no one is altruistic because they think everyone else is self serving, you’re living in hell.the red pushing demons want us to submit to the hellworld that living in a zero trust society where the best of us <50% have all died leaving us with nobody but ruthlessly selfish individuals. And that's no way to live
All these people pressing the blue button really puts the immigration crisis into perspective.
>>534002854this reminds me of the "I am Spartacus" scene
>>533995451I was safe either way so no, I'm still quite content. Retard.>I gambled my life to virtue signal hurr durr
>>534003788People are not inherently good, humanist.
>>534002973Disappointed that all my friends and loved ones were moronic death cultists.
>>534003704the goys will never have the IQ to understand this, my brother (i'm non-denominational revivalist btw)
>>533996514>if i dont press blue someone else willCuts both ways. This is the bluefags cope. They believe they are doing something to help when its just performative. Low trust niggers cant fathom people making the right choice without them watching over their shoulder. T
>>533995451No, I don't care if people wish to kill themselves.
>>534003772Nowhere was it ever implied people can't communicate.
>It's your moral duty to try to save the retards that pressed blueUhh...no. The world will become an objectively better place if the people who pressed blue die, way less retards to deal with. The average IQ in the world would go up at least 20 points
>>533995451The actual answer is to refuse to push either button. I'll die if I don't? Okay at least I have my dignity humanity and soul. You don't have to play the game.
>>533995451oh boy another thread of blueGODS raping REDditjews to death. reds don't have a single argument to save face. normies successfully made a meme to suss out the spiritual jews from humans hahaha
Redfags be like "NOOO I WANT TO REMAIN ALIVE WITH ALL THE BROWN PEOPLE WHO EXCLUSIVELY VOTED RED!!!"
>>534003833>Zero trust societyThis is the exception, not the norm99.999% of human societies have been low trust. Have you ever heard what it was like walking around Rome at night? Or London during the Renaissance? Put your money where you mouth is. Tonight, I want you to unlock your doors and leave them open. Keep your doors open and unlocked every night for the rest of your life. This will prove your convictions are true and you're not a hypocrite. But you won't, will you. We both know you won't because we both know you're a soulless evil liar (like most people).
>>534004014>when its just performativeHow is choosing the option that risks your own life preformative?
>>534004046You're effectively just pressing red then. Which is fine, the red button does nothing.
>>534002973This is a retarded nightmare scenario intended to exploit emotion. I'd say KYS but you voted blue so you already want to. It makes sense that blue won the poll but in reality nearly all of Asia will be able to read and will vote red; you will be hopelessly outnumbered. I wish it wasn't so, but it's very likely.
>>534004082when I grew up you could still walk to the park as a kid on your own without people freaking the fuck out. we had something more and we lost it
>>533998188Sorry GRINGOlem, you will not get to kill People of Color, ever.You can try, but there WILL be consequences in this eternally civilized world. You will NEVER live in an homogeneous society, NEVER AGAIN
>>534003833>the red pushing demons want us to submit to the hellworld that living in a zero trust societyThe question asked about all of humanity. The global human population is not one single society, let alone a high trust one.
>>534004058why doesnt jesus just press the blue button 7 billion times
>>534004037>Nowhere was it ever implied people can't communicate.I forgive you because OP is a faggot and didn't post the original question, but lets say people cant communicate, do you still press red? If so, do you feel morally justified?
>>534004071>trusting mankind>ever
>>534004071Why would a white person want to kill itself lol ?You can't blame brown people for not being as retarded as white people
>>533995451every time I see these polls its a vastly different spreadDo you think if you run the test more it creates more blues or more reds?
>>533995928You do not want to live in a world with only red pressers.
>bluefags were christkikes all alongPoisonous cult.
>>534004086Because your not doing anything to personally save them. Pressing a button and crossing yoir fingers is the definition of performative
Your answer to this question speaks volumes about you as a person. Allow me to explain:If a family who all loved eachother and were happy humans were given this choice in private, they would all pick blue. There is zero logical reason to choose red. Choosing red means possible death for one of their loved ones. Choosing blue means no one dies.However, if you gave this same choice to a bunch of niggers, thieves, and general pieces of shit - you'd have a high percentage of red-voters.Blue = love and happinessRed = anger, dread, and disdainBasically, if you choose red, you are almost certainly a miserable, unhappy person.
>>534004276Only faggots would be killed...
>>534004256idk i just found a random red / blue poll off google search. notice the image never actually clarifies what the poll is about specifically
>>534004308Now this test is given to your family and to niggers at the same timeso you're going to let the niggers kill your family?
>>534004231Of course I do. Why would I give a shit if a bunch of retards take a risk to end their life for no reason? Do you go around telling people with extreme hobbies to switch to less dangerous hobbies, something with an actual point to doing it rather than no point at all
do this and when it ends redfags get branded so normal people know not to trust them
>>533995451>cause problem>bitch about people not causing problem
People are saying they choose blue to save lives, but those lives are only in danger in the first place if people press blue. Pressing blue creates the very conditions for danger that you're trying to prevent by pressing blue. If everybody acted out of raw logic, the only people who would press blue are those who are suicidal. Of course, people don't act out of logic. People are stupid, and irrational. So taking into account human nature, blue becomes the right choice to make. But I don't think this question really exposes a flaw in people's morality, as much as it exposes a flaw in our decision making. People put themselves in danger by choosing blue just to beg you to choose blue to save themselves from the danger they willingly chose to activate. It's like you have a choice between two boats, you know one of them is leaky, but you get in the leaky one anyway, paddle out to the middle of a lake, and then demand to be saved; why'd you get in the fucking leaky boat in the first place?
>>533995668As a red presser, why would I be mad?
>>533995668There's literally no downside to pushing the red button though. So convince me why I should push the blue one. And no, "muh civic duty" is not a legitimate argument.
It's amazing how much blue pusher discourse is just them pretending not to understand things, thus making discourse impossible.
>>534004360Only niggers and people with nigger IQ are dumb enough to pick blue, so only the niggers die
>>534004308Blue casually revealing his nigger-tier IQ
>>534004443that's all the humanist death cult ever has though
>>534004231Yes, I pick the 100% chance of staying alive even if the aftermath is hell. I'm not going to throw my life away for a chance of saving blue pushers. If a kid decides to run down a cliff I can't help it even if it's sad to see.
>>533996698Yeah if they hid the results until they were final I think their world would crash.
>>533995451I press red for myself, if more than 50% went with blue that's cool, too.I want everyone to get what they want as long as it doesn't hurt me.
>>534004043>saveLolSome guy comes along and says: "as long as no one jumps on this red square, everyone lives. But if someone jumps on the red square, everyone dies except the person that jumped on the red square"Be youJump on red square"Heh, it's not my job to save you"Actual retard logic and it's exactly why you're a red kike
>>533995451>new gold vs blue dress goypuzzleso this is just going to clog up the catalog for weeks huh?
>>533995668Blue is meant to cuck and extinct whites while red is meant to alert them to blue pushers but had been hijacked by brics to also cuck and extinct whitey.
>>533995668people like you aren't worth caring about though, living or dead
>>534004071Bluefags be like "I'd rather euthanize myself than live a less comfortable life"Bring on the browns, I say. I'll be like Matt Damon in that movie Elysium. That movie sucked balls, but it beats being a Jonestown death cultist.
>>534004578there are enough red squares for everyone
>>533995777how does bombing school girls factor into this logic?
>>534004578>moves goalposts>n-n-no ur the kiketypical kike move
Why do red button pressers hate mankind?
>>533995928Demonic succubus identified.
>>533995451Look. I press red and survive.What you do is up to you. Either way, I live.
>>534004450Its worse. They are using data they can see on the Twitter post when the question specifically says you dont know anyone's vote. They truly are cooked using a data set thay won't exist when the true decision comes. If bluefags somehow manage to stay alive they shouldn't be allowed to walk outside without adult supervision
>>534003822You say I’m throwing away my life yet the majority chose blue. And also what good is it for a man to gain the world and lose his soul?Red pressers are proving with every post that they value themselves and their lives over all. They accuse blue pressers of virtue signalling but the reds are unwilling to take a chance on helping anyone but themselves. They don’t believe in virtues like honour or self sacrifice for a neighbour. “I got mine fuck you” is the mantra of the red presser. And they’re perfectly comfortable with that because even if red loses they still get to live. They aren’t virtuous and they have no reason to be. They get to live without ever having to put skin in the game so they’re comfortable with their decision.The thing that makes them seethe is that the results of this poll exposes them by proving that the majority aren’t like them and so their self centred nature comes from within them rather than reality.
>>533995451What if I refuse to vote?What if I just dont push any button?What if I press both buttons?
>>533995451In a real life scenario, blue pushers will press red. They are all full of shit, dishonest, and do it for the social clout. When it comes to it, they'll all sell out.
>>534004636>press red>red wins>get infinity raped by the overwhelming number of criminals who all predictably chose red
>>533995451As a person who would press red, I don't care if nothing happens, and I don't care if blue pressers kill themselves, what i care about is that in the premise its confidential and that means for anyone to know what I pressed it would have to break that confidentiality. Not only that, but the only way that people can know that people pressed the red button at all is if the blue pressers die, otherwise people would all just lie and say they pressed blue, meaning that you cannot trust people who said they pressed blue.
>>534004386Yes I would be highly critical and potentially intervene and try to save any infant or toddler was participating in an extremely dangerous hobby. You are literally the meme of the person sitting there watching a baby drown in a pool with righteous indignation about your lack of obligation to do anything.
>>533995777Bingo
>>533995451> publicly announce you're pressing blue> in secret press redSimpletons.
>>533995451humans are good
>>534004533The aftermath wouldn't be hell. Think of all the people you've seen advocate for red; just normal if not decently intelligent, rational people, right? Now contrast that with the bluefags; cultists, hysterically emotional, calling red pressers "demonic" or "sociopaths", endlessly quoting religious diatribe, etc. It's clear that the blue fag contingent of our society strongly overlaps with the hyper feminized retards actively destroying our own national and racial interests. If they lost their stupid gamble we'd live in a world where every single white person you see is a rational, racial conscience advocate of discipline, duty, and continuity.
>>534004695>everyone is evil like me*presses blue button*
>>534004625>how does bombing school girls factor into this logicHumans don't use girls as shields.
>>534004220he did. that's why the redmans are looking at him like that, because he just cucked them out of their satanic (satan is also red) death fest
>>534004578That's a completely different hypothetical than the button one. Nice try. But if you wanna go that way, then sure, I might just jump on the square just to piss you off
>>533999837I want everyone on earth to press red and live with 0 risk. But people are free to choose blue and die.
>>534004663the only sure way to live is pressing red. any other option could potentially kill you. literally just a iq test. if you care about someone deeply enough, you will convince them to press red aswell.
>>534004654You should go join the iranian army if you care about them so muchThey need your help and you can sacrifice yourself to them for honor. Think of how your soul will feel if you don't risk your life for them
>>533995451I'll be fine either way
>>534004696Everyone will literally push red. Only Western faggots are retarded enough to push blue.
>>534003858Lmao what a gigantic cope. Pressing blue doesn’t mean you support mass immigration. It’s not like those people were gonna die if they don’t get to live in western nations. Rajneesh will work in a call centre in mumbai just the same as in houston texas.
>>534004761if red wins all red pushers are categorically murderers. legendary levels of scum will be all that is left of humanity before you guys inevitably kill each other
>>534004578Except that comparison doesn't work, because in that scenario it's a choice between action and non-action, and only by taking the action presented to you does it create the conditions to kill people. The button scenario is a choice between two actions, you don't get to sit out participation, you HAVE to act, and acting to choose blue is the act that creates a kill-condition. There is nobody in line to die by default unless they choose blue.
>>534004360Poll results. Every single one shows blue winning. You three:>>534004360>>534004472>>534004474Literally vote like the niggers you despise. But who cares about this little meme. The fact of the matter is that your vote conveys you are genuinely unhappy people. Your anger only seals the deal and I get to laugh knowing demonic people like yourselves are hurting inside
>>534004663>What if I refuse to vote?>What if I just dont push any button?you're still le evil miserable person because you didn't contribute to saving blueniggers :^)
>>534004784I don't get it
>>534004308The world is majority niggers, thieves, and general pieces of shit anon. Even if you're not like that, in this situation you have to be, because relying on subhumans to act altruistically will never work.
This has nothing to do with a trust society. Pushing red protects you and harms no one. Only choosing to press blue adds the prospect of dying to anyone, and the only people that have the prospect of death are the blue button pushers themselves. Blue button pushers are exhibiting suicidal empathy, which is a mental illness.
>>534004625inherently good things are capable of doing ignorant things
>>533995668TRVTHNVKE
>>534004823You won't have access to that data when it comes time to cast your vote. Hope that helps>b but muh Twitter performative polls says I would be fine
>>533995668Red pressers. Think they are smart somehow. They don’t understand how low this test sets them in the scheme of things. I’ll summarise it this. Red pressers. What you possess isn’t intelligence. Certainly not wisdom. It can only be described as a type of “animal cunning”. The Izzat system of the Jeet being a wonderful example of the instantiation of this low trait.
>>534004823>appeal to popularity fallacyNot an argument. Try again
>>533995777>this pisses off nihilistsnihilism doesn't mean cynicism and nihilism only works if everybody is good
>>534004823No i've seen ones where red wins too. You are the one who's upset, that's why you try to call me names, but you're still going to let the niggers kill your family.
>>534004654Over "all"? No. Over dying pointlessly? Yes. Bluefags are cultists. The only reason to choose blue is to risk yourself saving other blue pressers who also pressed blue for the exact same reason. The only argument outside of this is shit like, "But children could accidentally press blue" which is 1) an invalid additional criteria that muddies the waters of a thought experiment (no point in conditionals and moral logic included if the vote is open to literal retards or children who can't even understand it), and 2) children and retards could easily pick red as much as they pick blue; if red wins in real life (not twitter polls full of virtue signaling trannies), then the red pressing kids could live on without families or support structures. There's no logical reason to press blue, at all. Faggot ass subversives like you are trying to morally guilt people into believing they're evil if they're not pathologically suicidal. It's a weird belief that plagues most white nations these days.
>>534003498Not at all, in the prisoner's dilemma you only go free if you snitch and your partner doesn't. If both of you snitch, both get a medium sentence, if both stay silent both get a lenient sentence, and if one snitches while the other stays silent the snitch goes free while the silent one gets a maximum sentence. The optimal solution (pareto optimal) is both staying silent, because even though both will go to prison for some years, the total number of years will be the least. However, individually you always get better off if you snitch (in case your partner snitches, you get a medium sentence instead of a maximum sentence; in case your partner stays silent, you go free instead of getting a lenient sentence), which introduces the moral ambiquity: sacrificing an optimum solution for a personal better solution. In this case the question has been dumbed down to such an extent that it removes the moral dilemma. The optimum solution is staying alive, and it is guaranteed by pressing red
>>534004722Who said anything about toddlers? Why aren't you going around telling adults that?
>>533995451> People virtue signalled in an online poll this means blue will winIf somehow this situation was for real and you press blue you are going to die. >>533995777> Humans are inherently goodBwahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
>>534004897Just accept responsibility for your bad decisions making society low trust
>>534004867You assume everyone who presses blue is an evil lair deep down like you and would end up pressing the red button. I still end up pressing the blue button.
>>534004819Not true, and best of all if red wins then people like you have killed themselves (not been murdered), therefore you won't be around to insufferably annoy or try to mindfuck anyone. The world would have something it's arguably never had; quiet competence, discipline, masculinity, and no pathological faggot cultists trying to convince white people to kill themselves all the time.
>>534004795>>534004945See >>534004823You're essentially dousing yourself in gas and lighting yourself on fire to "get back at me". I am content. You are full of turmoil. This hypothetical only reveals your own human nature. Nothing more. Nothing less.
>>533996254But I'd rather not kill anyone.
>>534004871there are two types of blue pushers A: Suicidal B: self righteous faggots that want to fix the suicidal to live and feel it's their duty to save them. It's very simple, if you want to live, press red, everyone who wants to live can press it. Every fucking person can choose red and every person can live. If you might want to die but don't want to take responsibility or you have some saviour complex, press blue.
people who voted blue are the great filter btw
>>534005043Prove it; in real life you can't "press blue", but you could end your life and donate all of your organs to dying children in need of transplants. If you refuse, explain why pressing red is any different?
>>534005053the only people left will be ruthlessly selfish people and the criminally-minded who will unanimously vote red. you will be gutted and eaten as alternative McDonald hamburgers once society inevitably collapses into anarchy
>>534005114>Every fucking person can choosesource for this claim?
>>534005093That's blue button pusher problem, not red.
>>534005089No you are projecting your bad feelings onto others. See:>>534004945I'm going to live. I'm going to council the ones i care about to pick red, they'll live too. You'll council the ones you care about to pick blue, and the niggers will kill them. That's why you're so angry, because my strategy is stable and long lived.
>>534004578>Some guy comes along and says: "everyone will die if you don't jump. But as long as you jump on the red square, you'll live. Oh there's also a blue square, but you only live if the majority of people jump on the blue square."FTFY
>>533995668The same blue 'alutrism' that got us in this situation?FUCK YOU! RED ME!!
>>534005043No, I didn't assume they are evil. I assume on a real life scenario, when their life is actually on the line, self preservation will kick in. Thanks not evil, that's not wrong, that's human nature. Everyone can press red, there is no limit.
>>534004823>The fact of the matter is that your vote conveys you are genuinely unhappy people. Your anger only seals the deal and I get to laugh knowing demonic people like yourselves are hurting insidelol no. I press the red button because I enjoy being alive, and I would love for you to join me.
>>534005114I press the blue button because I just don't want other people to die, it's really that simple.
>>534005114Right. It's an individual choice. The stupid 50% bluefag clause is a red herring meant to trip up faggots and make them think it's a social experiment. It's not. It's a personal choice: red = live, blue = (maybe) die. All you have to do is ask yourself, "what would legitimately suicidal people press?", and the answer tells you everything you need to know.
>>534004800Theres no stated time limit tho.So if blue dying is based on the vote being above or below 50% this implies that it doesnt take effect until everyone has voted.By not pressing any button I neither subject myself or anyone else to a death gamble.Truely if you did want to save everyone then pressing no button would be the logical choice as the game cant conclude and thus nobody can die
>>534004654People responding to a xitter poll have nothing to lose with red but can feel better about themselves with blue. It's all about being able to think of yourself as superior.You desperately want it to be a narcissist vs altruist issue so you can feel part of the altruist side.Like crypto-socialists who keep trying to be the voice of groups they don't actually represent, so they can be deemed morally superior and then find themselves in positions of power.
>>534004014no, it doesn't cut both ways, talmud red. it's impossible to rephrase the dilemma in any to make bluechads look immoral. you cannot pharesee weasel word your way out of corner. you lost rednigger get raped by trannies.
>>534005185Show me where it says there is a limit on who gets to press the button. That's a while different scenario.
>>534005253>By not pressing any button I neither subject myself or anyone else to a death gamble.Cope by illiterate retards, the problem clearly states you ONLY live if you press red or the majority of people press blue. This means people who don't vote are implicitly included in the outcome
>>534005114C. Chinks and Muds helping blue virtue signal they are saving everyone while secretly trying to enslave them.The blue button kills noone because it does nothing. It's a ruse.
>>534005248holy based you shall be glorified as a martyr in this life and the next
>>534004993I press blue as do my people. That’s why I’ve always enjoyed the benefits of living in what may have been the world highest trust society. Polluted admittedly more and more by reductionists, nihilistic, Darwinistic thinkings. Who as I’ve said. Confuse low Animal Cunning with wisdom.The fact they can’t see this is a test of separating zero-sum, starving-rats-in-a-bag thinking primitives. from cooperative golden-rule, virtuous-circle transcenders. Is why red pushers are dumb in a way they can even fathom. It’s another plain of existence to them. Because they are still but cunning monkeys.
>>533995451THEY SHOULD HAVE DONE IT WITH A lIGHT gREY BUTTON AND A dARK gREY BUTTON AND i JUST REALIZED my capslock was on. sorry.
>>534004558Exactly. My thoughts on the matter as well. I want the bluefags to live, but I would prefer if we all were smart enough to push red. Something, something covid jab.
>>534005177Regardless of the validity of this statement, the fact that you're making it shows you're just a spiteful, resentful faggot. You would be dead in the proposed scenario, meaning your opinions and predictions would be completely irrelevant. I would press red and I'm a normal human being; I work, contribute to society, treat people well, volunteer, etc. I just don't want to die pointlessly. If most red pressers are like me, the world would be fine, and not the apocalyptic slave moralist fantasy you deranged cultish freaks keep envisioning.
>>533995451http://reichandlowentherapy.org/Content/Character/Oral/oral_communicator.htmlThe inclination of the oral is to find out 'the right thing to do' and do it. Therefore the oral is capable of greatly moral or pro-social acts. But implementing good ideas may be difficult. There is a tendency for orals to focus intensely on their intentions and plans, past and present, and treat results as fairly inconsequential or the responsibility of others. Ideas are untested in the world, and while that idealism may sometimes bear fruit, often naive and unrealistic positions remain. The 'way things should be' is much more important than 'the way things almost always are.' This can lead the oral to be at odds with instinctual tendencies in others and society that prevent 'things from being the way they should be'.Large abstract global causes may be championed, with no real demands on the ego, but smaller specific injustices to specific known people closer to home may be unopposed because the ego strength is not present for an actual fight. They often champion the cause of under-dogs and minorities, idealizing those with little power. This comes from the feeling of having been deprived and cheated, which is repressed and projected onto others. It is sometimes said that orals dislike the people they know, and like the people they don't know.
>>534004980>Nobody said anything about toddlers"everyone" is put into a private button room like the original dilemma with the poll states. It's a pretty easy mistake to not think about who that includes at first, the same thing happened to me. Do you still feel morally justified in pressing red and voting for mass child deaths?
>>534005240What's more likely? 8 billion people choosing red? Or 4 billion choosing blue?I choose the side where no one dies.You choose the side where people die but you get the comfort in knowing you wont be one of them.We are not the same and you can just take a look around at all the other angry reds who genuinely hate humanity. They are NOT happy individuals
>>533996698that should be part of an IQ test.
red pusher = selfish = satanblue pusher = selfless = jesus
>>534005248I press blue because I want to die. Now you press blue to force me to live in this hell hole. You are a self righteous virtue signaling ass hole with a savior complex.
>>534005377Western societies have been declining since the rise of Sklavenmoral (blue button morality)
>>534005377What narcissistic tripe. This is the quintessential bluefag; some mick who's hopped up on his own sense of moral superiority because he answered "would join a suicide cult" in a purely hypothetical poll with zero consequence. Truly the most faggoted people on the planet.
>>534004761True, but now instead of being 90% white the country becomes 60% white. I guess it's better for long-term as that 60% would actually fight the niggers
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>>534005451people die every day. You are not the master of the universe who gets to say no one dies. That is God's role. Don't you think it's a bit arrogant to be that way to think you can change the outcome for 4 billion people?
>>534005248>I press the blue button because I just don't want other people to die, it's really that simpleThe blue button is not connected. It's fake. Does nothing. Chinks and muds still want you dead and still distract you with jews. The red button kills the chinks and muds and the commie jews so good people can live.
>>534005093choosing to push blue is the only situation where anyone dies. you are choosing potential death for you and other blues.
>>534005489Hell awaits you. Heathen. The button is red for a reason.
>>534004071The whites who press blue are also the ones who support mass immigration and replacement genocide, we would be better off without them.
>>533995668Every commie is mad that you don't press le red button because they hate Christ>All things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them
>>533995777Checked and blessed digits
>>533995451Redpresssisters, our response?!
>>534005450You have to use your brain and realize that "everyone" obviously doesn't include shit like newborn babies that can't even physically reach or press a button. Would the aliens/gods put them on the table and hope they roll onto one of the buttons randomly? Jesus, I swear people just can't think.
>>534005248See, I get it. But you really have to wonder why people chose blue in the first place, therefore necessitating their saving. I'll hearken back to my boat analogy: if you have two boats, and one you know is leaky and will capsize in the middle of the ocean, and you still choose to get in that boat over a functional one, I would come to your aid, but I really don't get why you would choose to get in that boat in the first place. At the end of the day the question of intelligence isn't really about which button ensures your survival, it's about being smart enough to know that the rest of the population is dumb enough to willingly put themselves into a situation where they need to be saved instead of just taking the equally available safe route. That's the real burden here. By choosing blue, you're not really saving anybody from some unpreventae tragedy, you're just blocking a bunch of lemmings from jumping over a cliff. It's kind of pitiful.
>>533995451Xhitter is full of bots so how does this poll prove anything?
Now do a button trolly without people being able to see the results before answering
>>534005363The wording implies voting is mandatory and has no time limit on decision making so by not voting its simply indefinetely delaying the outcome of the game.There is no dont vote option on the mandatory vote its not a selectable option in the games rules, but there is always the implicit ability to refuse doing something. The result being the game cant end until everyone has voted.
>>534004803Why would I do that? complete false equivalency. Just because I’m not willing to condemn millions to death doesn’t mean I don’t believe in a justifiable death, like shooting someone who breaks into your home to protect yourself or your wife and kids.
>>534005478Red pusher: personal choice, personal responsibility, personal freedomBlue pusher: self-righteous, removes the choice to die for the truly suicidal and forces them to live. No personal responsibility.
>>534005587
>>534005296sorry I meant "have nothing to GAIN with red"
>>534005529>you dont get go choose who lives and who diesPure cognitive dissonance.
The blue button is exactly like this place. It makes you feel better about chinks and muds killing off whitey.l but only helps them do it.
>>533996698>We asked 1.000 eunuchs what their opinion on sex is100% who voted on this are twitter users. Great snapshot of humanity guys.
>>534005520That 30% white is definitely the main reason we are invaded by niggers in the first place. Whites have always been vastly outnumbers by non-whites, we didn't win in the past through numerical superiority, but because we weren't compromised by some leftoid mind virus that convinced us to hate and oppose our own national and racial interests at every turn. If the button press purged virtually every leftoid and pathological altruist from society we could immediately install a government that deports every non-white, kicks women out of PMC jobs to get the birthrates back up, and exclusively make decisions that benefit our own people.
>>534005402>if i pretend that as a red that picking up the gun and shooting blues ISIS style in the back of the head is a suicide that means I win>yes I am totally normal and safe to be around
>>534005665You are condemning them to death by not risking your life for them. The red button is you stay homeThe blue button is if 5 million westerners go join the iranian army, they will all live
>>533995451Blue is a virtue-sgnalling gamble. It is not moral to push either button. Moral is not participating if you have the choice.
>>533995668Fpbp
The blue button is exactly like this place. It makes you feel better about chinks and muds killing off whitey but only helps them do it while you push a stupid useless button.
>>534005587>at least we survive! Seems to be the pinnacle of the apologists for red. Bugs survive. Rats survive. Many primitive things strive just hard enough to merely “survive”. I am an Irishman sir. This is the lowest bar I can possibly image. You need a better answer redsisters. And fast. Because I know you would claw at your neighbour if the endgame for scraps like a rat in a bag. It’s in your nature. Mine is something better. As is the nature of my people.
>>534005596Actually "everyone" just means "everyone", not "people I can feel morally justified in voting for their deaths and thus completely trivializing the dilemma"
>>534005725Me pressing red doesn't kill anyone who pressed blue. In fact, up to 49% of the world can press red and everyone still lives. Literally the only people risking or causing death are blue retards like you. I know you won't understand this though because your brain is mush.
>>534005669>me me mesolipsist are lucky people are blue pushersotherwise you would devour each other
>>534005744>The blue button is if 5 million westerners go join the iranian army, they will all liveRed is sitting at home letting patriots die for you. Blue is joining the army because the more powerful the army against Iran is the fewer casualties there will ultimately will be. Blue is a morally just option
>>534002973I would shrug pretty hard, I guess.
>>534005625Don't apply cold sterile emotion and you will get your answer. This is meant to be a global and secret vote(you don't get to see what others voted). Jebediah and his wife and 12 children will press blue just cause it's the moral and christian thing to do in their eyes. There you go, you have some blue voters with only one example.
>>534005560Red is a beautiful colour. + there is no hell
>>534005488This but kinda unironically. If you die an immediate death you would die a better, more painless death than like 99.99% of all humanity that has ever existed.
More than 90% of blue pushers ITT are either baiting with chatgpt or just literally copy pasting twitter replies.
>>534005301Bluefags keep bringing up the Talmud, but truth is, if white people were just a little bit more selfish, we would not be in the mess we currently find ourselves in. White people could really learn something from Jews, who instictively put themselves first. Blue morality is slave morality, and the Achilles' heel of whites.I genuinely don't want bluefags to die, but the silver lining to all this is that the buttons might actually make the white race overall stronger and more fit for survival by culling the pathologically ashamed among us.I press red not just for my own life, but for a potential better tomorrow. I hope you'll join me, because you are perfectly free to do so.
>>534004871Terrible argument. If everyone pushes red no one dies, if everyone pushes blue no one dies. If 49% of people push red no one dies, if 49% of people push blue then 51% of people die.Even using the raw numbers and no philosophical arguments, red pressers are the ones that introduce death.
>>534005802>the nature of my peopleYou're being replaced by chinks and muds while you push a stupid blue fake button that won't even kill them.
>>534005909Pretty obvious by now that these threads are filled with demoralization bots
>>534005909>the red pusher is cynicalWow, who would have thought?
>>534005831The premise is a completely impossible hypothetical meant to test people's philosophical/moral reasoning or logic. The idea that that applies to babies is retarded. If it did, then explain how that works? Again, do babies just get put on the table until they happen to roll onto one of the buttons? Or how about a mentally challenged person who is in a wheel chair and can't even move? Not being physically or mentally able to interact with the problem and make a conscious selection is obviously a disqualifier. And if it's not, it's just as likely for a child to press red as blue so it's irrelevant to the decision anyway.
>>534005909>with chatgpt or just literally copy pasting twitter replies.rage baiting yeah but it's all 100% authentic anon. these are genuinely real home grown red presser tears
>>534005802There are 3 strong arguments for redMasculinity:1. Red keeps autonomy in your own hands. You are not putting your faith in a crowd you don't know. Logic:2. The odds that your vote will actually tip the scale is infinitesimal. Whatever the crowd votes, you will die or live depending on their will. Ethical:3. The devil is the prince of this world. Choosing the blue pill is putting your hands in the ethics of man, which is the hands of the devil. It is trusting that if enough people chop off their dicks, then it will be good to chop off your dick. This is the beast morality
>>534005877Exhibit A. Why blue is superior. Here we have the godless. Hopeless. Sexless. Depressed and angry boy. Whose hero is another equally pathetic example. Replete with half the ball count and double the sexual disfunction. Another massive L for Redcels. And then for them. The self imposed hell they live in now. Is but an entree to what their godless ways are leading them to.
>>534005964>red = 100% chance of living>blue = <100% chance of livingEveryone who chooses blue is making a conscious decision to risk their lives. Risking your life and then holding people morally hostage to save you is in itself, immoral and retarded.
>>534006002I wonder what the IDF is trying to accomplish by sending all their discord groomed children to spam this thread.
>>534005802Yes, breathing organisms survive, it's not star wars, there's no epic jedi that says a one-liner and saves the whole planet from the bad guys. You're not better by rejecting reality, you're actually worse for ignoring reality and only being forced to recognize it when it hits you in the face at 300km/h
>>534002426So the best thing for everyone, is if they all push red. Blue is a randomized death sequence.
>>534006104Bluefags are religious fanatics and leftists. The people responsible for actively destroying our societies in real life, not in a hypothetical.
>>534006002The point is to pretend blue is altruistic with facetious arguments as usual. It doesn't say blue gives everyone eternal life. They're still going to keep trying to kill you off regardless of the button.
>>534005964The difference is that you are retarded enough to place a bet on man because you're a self-righteous humanist. Christians respect themselves and know man isn't inherently good so would not play such a performative game of russian roulette.
>>534005451Unfortunately, the most likely scenario is that bluefags will be almost exclusively whites, and massively outnumbered by third world redfags.>I choose the side where no one dies.lol no, you choose the side where you get to die because the third world population put themselves first, and you naively thought everyone was as cucked as you. Join team red, we're all winners here.
>if red wins there will be only red pushers left>it doesn't end there, next buttons come up>now it'll be red vs redred pushers don't think ahead
>>534005392green and purple would be better.
>>534006269>Red vs red>Nobody dies..
I press blue. If blue doesn't win I don't want to be on a planet where majority of people are lifejews anyway.
>>534006103>1. Red keeps autonomy in your own hands. You are not putting your faith in a crowd you don't know.What is it that separates us from the beasts. But our ability to place our faith in each others hands and accomplish as a collective what no one low cunning beast could ever imagine. Like reach the moon. Next>2. The odds that your vote will actually tip the scale is infinitesimal. Whatever the crowd votes, you will die or live depending on their will.There are things worth risking your life for. Worth sacrifice for. This is the mark for a people and now a troop of apes. >3. The devil is the prince of this world. Choosing the blue pill is putting your hands in the ethics of man, which is the hands of the devil. It is trusting that if enough people chop off their dicks, then it will be good to chop off your dick. This is the beast moralityThe only devil in this world. Is the vile ethical framework you vomit. You crown the devil prince in YOUR own heart. That’s where the devil is. I cast the out. Down lower than a snake.
>>534006269>i'd rather die than push another buttonwow such foresight
>>534005859You're ignoring that all the acts these people put up about being nice are all an appearance. Claiming to be "good" and being "good" in private against your own interests is not the same.
The correct answer is to walk away from the buttons.
>>534005450>Do you still feel morally justified in pressing red and voting for mass child deaths?Now I don't just feel morally superior pressing red, it also turns me on.
>>534006217The blue pushers will vote blue now while being tracked but would push red when it counts
>>534006115Congrats, you pressed red, now about 30%(pick any realistic number you wish) of the entire population of earth is dead. Who the fuck is left? Surely not Tyrone and his gang, or every pajeet on this planet. And who is gone? The priest that cared about people and did the christian thing, the well meaning young guy who was hopeful and optimistic, tons and tons of parents that wanted to cover all their bases because they were afraid their kids might press blue. Every CEO-MCfuck you lived though.And what happens to infrastructure now? Who works the hard jobs? Because the guys risking their lives every day to do what has to be done weren't afraid to press blue.
>>534006028It's unspecified what happens to people who are unable to physically press EITHER red or blue, so babies and physically disabled people are actually irrelevant to the discussion and my argument. Toddlers who don't fully understand game theory, or color blind people might press either one, just like you said, but actually this is incredibly relevant to the discussion, because you are now voting for roughly 50% of them to die as you press red. You can carve out a separate hypothetical and start your own poll where you define exactly who is included in the experiment, but I will probably still be able to find an exception to your rules where someone is included, who might press blue and still doesn't deserve to die. That's actually the whole point of why blue is correct.
>>534003049>And I know you hate me and my family.nobody knows or cares enough about your existence you pathetic faggot.
>WWJPRED BUTTON
>>534006378next choice will be red/blue again>red for push blue other over the edge>blue for push red over the edge>majority will live>this will continue with next sequence
>>5340063931. no, for example, ants, bees, etc. You want humanity to live as a swarm under a unified directive. But that is not christian ethics. 2. the risk you take on doesn't actually change the result, that's the point. 3. Now you're just breaking character
>>534006264Right, and one thing that's hilarious to me about these bluefags is how blatant their superiority complex is; they assume anyone who presses red is a "sociopath" when the vast majority of people are probably just normal people. Many people would panic and press red without even thinking about it simply because they don't want to die. Society, especially in the developed world, virtually never relies on situations where everyone must sacrifice their life (or risk doing so) for the greater good in one mass event, so, society would be just fine. Most red pressers would still risk their lives or safety under normal conditions, like if their kid was drowning, or if they were a firefighter. They just won't pointless throw their life away in a random gamble where they can't know or control any of the outcomes. In my case, even if I wanted blue fags to live, I know I can't outvote the entire third world, so I'd choose red to stay alive and keep trying to do good things. Bluefags are, through and through, pathological liars, delusional fanatics, and narcissistic faggots. I've combed every one of these threads and not once encountered a single compelling bluefag argument.
>>534005964Pressing red does not kill anyone but it also does not save the suicidal. Not saving the suicidal is not the same as killing them. Choosing to possibly die to save other suicidal blues is mental illness. Blue is clearly the fascist choice by trying to control other people's choices.
>>534006482Red only kills commies
>>534006470Covering for a ton of retards and not being prepared to defend yourself. Quite the pathetic statement from you. >I assumed all my good for my side without so much as a lick of an argument.Typical blue fag moral crap. I bet you’re a commie too
>>534006581in knowing that to do one thing that doesn't save the suicidal but do another thing that will condemn them is no different than if you had killed them yourself
>>534005843Don't you think you should push red to teach people like me a lesson just in case blues loses? Who's going to uphold the metal righteousness if you die?
>>534006269So you would rather euthanize yourself than live in a dog-eat-dog world?
>>534004954Blue pressers don’t press blue to save the other blues fool, that’s literally the argument for pushing red and other red pressers in this very thread have stated exactly that, that if everyone presses red everyone lives.The people who push blue pushed it so they can save the blues and the reds because they believe that while there will be a lot of red pressers there will be more blue pressers so the reds get to survive as well.
By definition, blue is leaving something out. It does nothing but something is happening.
>>534006470>Priest that cared about peopleSits inside a church while nigger hordes invade his country, apathetically ignores calls to duty or nationalism because those are "earthly ambitions"> the well meaning young guy who was hopeful and optimisticNaive, probably voted for feminism and open borders.>tons and tons of parents that wanted to cover all their bases because they were afraid their kids might press blueLiberal fags that would troon their kids out.You forget who else dies:>Virtually every leftist, feminist, homosexual, and troon in the entire west.>A sub-component of third worlder's, probably the most likely ones to actually emigrate and invade foreign countries since they're likely English speaking and somewhat educated.>Every covert narcissist, performatively empathetic dregRed does get left with some high functioning sociopaths, but also every rational, high agency, high T man who is willing and able to pragmatically make decisions, who believes in civic duty, who believes in continuity of their own race and nation, etc. Your proposed scenario isn't just a result of a hypothetical, it's what needs to actually happen to end the leftist mind virus and restore order and prosperity to white nations.
>>534005850>Red is sitting at home letting patriots die for you. Blue is joining the army because the more powerful the army against Iran is the fewer casualties there will ultimately will be. Blue is a morally just optionBut why don't you want to save the iranian people?You are condemning them to die
>>534005114>Saviour complexThat’s an interesting way to phrase the virtue of self sacrifice.
>>534006690you will either exterminate yourselves or adopt the blue pusher mindset
>>534006814If you believe in self sacrifice, why not commit suicide and donate all your organs to dying kids waiting for transplants?
Blue is as fake as a Democrat / leftist. You are voting/pushing harder on something that does nothing while they rob you blind and sell you off to browns.
>>534006814>self-sacrifice>to prove my humanist horseshit is right and God is wrong.
>>534006914Baseless assertion. I could just as easily say, "red pressers are pragmatic and intelligent, therefore they'd organize high agency, high output societies where people contribute far more than they take and don't burden others with their problems".
>>534006942but only browns, chinks and the generally soulless press the red button
>>534006814Self sacrifice is not virtuous. Everyone is important, everyone is equal, even you. You do not need to sacrifice yourself for everyone else. It is better to convince everyone to press red and for everyone to press red. Because if there is deception and not enough blues press than so many are needlessly lost. If everyone presses red, everyone lives.
>>534006627>I assumed all my good for my side without so much as a lick of an argument.You get by default all the dregs of humanity with red. No selfish misanthropic asshole will ever press blue. You also get all the cowards that were too afraid to risk it. And you lose tons and tons of good moral people, not all of them mind you, but most. You lose tons of selfless people exactly because they were selfless. All the psychos remain, all the cowards remain. Good world you have there.
>>534006599>Red only kills commiesThis is actually the only thing that goes through the tiny head of red pressers when they participate in this hypothetical. I would press red if it was that simple.
>>534007018there will be a new press of buttons and you will chooise for your self interest againall the selfless people will be gone by then
>>534007022Everyone except white liberal midwits press red. Low IQ retards press it because they instinctually want to save themselves. High IQ whites press red because they can do basic math. Only the worst contingent of white people press it, and then cleanse themselves from our nations. Would be very ideal, actually.
>>534006134>take the jab to save grandma>take the migrants to save Ahmed>invade Iran to save Shlomo>eat the bugs to save the cows>freeze in winter to save the planet>put the cock in the ass to save the homosTake your pick
>>534007022Do they? Seems they vote blue along with you IRL telling you to push blue until they can get enough of them to all push red.
>>534006545One would have to be incredibly naive and unworldly to even consider blue. Honestly, even though most bluefags would be white, the vast majority of whites would still press red. Just look at something like the case of Kitty Genovese. Most people do not care one bit about a perfect stranger, or humanity at large, only their immediate sphere. When white leftists vote their societies away, they are doing so from a position of blissfully ignorant comfort. They do not really care, and they certainly don't care enough to stake their own life on their self-professed altruism.
>>534007081Do you really think it's high agency, high T men who if in charge would deport millions of foreigners, ban women from PMC work, institute pro-natalist policies, and suppress any dissent, are choosing blue? Blue is the choice of the very same pathological, performative empathy fags voting against every single white interest at all times. If bluefags had even an ounce of actual civic virtue then ONE liberal white country would have low immigration and high fertility rates. Not a single one does. Leftism and liberalism are mind viruses that destroy a nation from within, and this hypothetical is unironically the best way to cleanse the entire world of them.
>>534007096You're too suck in this liberal/conservative manufactured dichotomy mind trap that it completely narrows your line of thinking.
>>534007292amen
>>534006766>Priest that cared about peopleSits inside a church while nigger hordes invade his country, apathetically ignores calls to duty or nationalism because those are "earthly ambitions"> the well meaning young guy who was hopeful and optimisticNaive, probably voted for feminism and open borders.>tons and tons of parents that wanted to cover all their bases because they were afraid their kids might press blueLiberal fags that would troon their kids out.Excuses out the ass. I can paint the same picture if I just ignore everything. >Red does get left with some high functioning sociopaths, but also every rational, high agency, high T man who is willing and able to pragmatically make decisionsAll these guys who believed in civic duty pressed blue because of that very belief. All the high T guys who were gonna change their countries for the better pressed blue, in real life these are the guys who enlist in wars to save the weak and protect their countries. The pussies stayed behind in safety because they were scared, ahm ahm red pushers. In fact all the psychos that remain will try fuck over the pussies that voted red for their own gain and there will be no brave and well meaning people to stop that. See? Fucking easy.
>>534006914lol no, I will live to fight another day. I'd rather try surviving on my own in the harsh jungle of Guyana rather than drink Jim Jones' kool-aid. Self-sacrifice solely for its own sake is not a virtue.
>>534007397the world you're creating will become more and more hostile since everyone is just interested in their own survivalyou're creating hell on earth
>>534007292I never said anything about "conservatives". Liberalism is the bane of modern western civilization, and most conservatives are liberal themselves.
>>534006344checked
>>534007363>You'll survive but think of how unhappy you'll be sour grapes.Life will go on without you. Yes society is likely to look different, and it will be in red pressers' image so it might even be a place blue pressers wouldn't want to live, but they wouldn't have to
>>534005321can you not provide a source? then it's baseless?
>>534007462This is probably just projection from you weirdos. Choosing red doesn't mean you're "just interested in your own survival", it means you can do basic math before throwing your life away. A red presser would see a child drowning in a whirlpool and say, "I want to save him, but I can't without dying myself". A bluefag would jump in, and both would die. A red presser in another situation would see a child drowning in manageable waters and say, "I think I can save him without dying" and then jump in. I've made decisions like that in my own life before. Bluefags appeal to the most absurdly high standard of "selflessness" because they know they'll never actually be held accountable. They can claim they're selfless and great yet irl they make zero sacrifices for anyone. Name a single time in your entire life you've risked anything or even donated your time/money to a cause beyond yourself? I volunteer at a soup kitchen 2-3 times a week.
>>534007462I think the world would be a better place if whites were more concerned for their own survival. I press red for a better tomorrow.
>>534004071Without Bluetards burning down the world, we can start solving the actual problems facing western civilization.
>>533995451If you vote blue you're a retarded suicidal faggot.
>>534007647be real, the only reason you volunteer at a soup kitchen is because you're terrified of hell and you do it for your own good
>>534006470The world population is 90% non-whites. You can't trust such a group to vote 51% blue, thus voting blue is suicide.You can only trust a fully homogenous society to vote blue.Let's pretend it's 90% whites, Tyrones will keep procreating and overtake the blue voters eventually like it's currently happening. So blue voters surviving just means more people facilitating Tyrone, like an autoimmune system malfunctioning and targeting the body instead of the threat.A host that doesn't fight its parasytes is a dead host and the ones that fight are in the red group.
>>534007647I believe you. In my experience, the most pleasant and generous people are the ones honest about their own selfishness. Save yourself before you save others, they even say this explicitly on airplanes before they take off.
>>534007259It's interesting to think about what kind of ideology leads to what color presser, but I suspect you just want to turn this hypothetical into a proxy for political discussions, which is not the point of a moral dilemma. My argument is that it's simply immoral to press red because voting to kill innocent people is bad. I don't know for sure if my mother or my children are going to press blue or red and the dilemma states that "everyone" is put into a "private" room. So I assume I cant communicate with them. I started off as a red presser until I just thought about that, so I'm very open to any real arguments against that point.
>>534006766>Virtually every leftistIn reality, even most leftists will vote red because all the shit they say is performative and they do it purely for their own personal gain, to climb the social ladder.
>>534007833Wrong. Again, bluefags need to construct a reality inside their minds that aligns with their delusions, because the real world never will. I go to the soup kitchen because I believe in civic duty and civic maintenance. If we don't serve those people food they'll likely starve, die in the streets, or resort to crime. Some of them are very sympathetic hard cases that tug at the hearstrings, but I even serve the retards, the dregs, the fucked up ones that catcall my 16 year old colleague, etc. Actual altruism, the non-pathological one, is like brushing your teeth; it's unimpressive, drab, sometimes even annoying, but required for basic health. That's the thing you bluefags will never grasp; you live for the thrill, the narcissistic, grandiose power play. People like me just want to diligently do our work and live in peace.
>>534008053am i wrong? you care about the poor but then choose to press red?hypocrite
>>534007977But pressing red is not a "vote to kill innocent people". No one is forced to choose blue, so pressing red can't be framed as "killing them". Killing implies both intent and means. If no one presses blue, they don't die. If pressing red killed people, their choice wouldn't be able to mitigate it.
>>534008090Hard to serve the poor when you've killed yourself by joining a delusional suicide cult. The poor themselves will probably choose red, and I'll still be alive to serve them.
>>534008053Based and true. Choosing red is the sensible choice. Blue voters are just retarded faggots who want to feel more grandiose.
>>534007839If anything things get far worse a lot quicker if reds win. Even if only 10% press blue these people are gone and like you said they are probably white people.Now you have even more Tyrones in the world than before, statistically speaking. If there is a slight chance to fix the world nowadays red win torpedoes that instantly. If however blue wins, that means that the world isn't in some unsalvageable state and there is yet hope.
