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Why do leftists hate landlords so much?
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cos landlords are jewish next question
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>>534021533
Its always funny that "pull yourself up by the bootstraps" was an ironic statement said by people in the 1800s but boomers use it unironically.
You can't pull yourself up by the bootstraps, its impossible. Boomers missed the joke.
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>>534021533
90% of landlords are boomers who bought 4-5 properties back when properties were less than half what they are now. The fact that so many boomers bought so many houses means that housing prices keep going up (becuase they are hoarding the supply) which also means rent goes up. Boomers also are politically active in an effort to raise housing prices in various ways. 1 way is to import thousands of foreigners to come in and rent. In canada, in university cities, this can mean that you have thousands of foriegner kids coming to school who have their rent paid for by the government so boomers get to charge like an extra 30% more rent because they know the government is paying it anyways.
tldr: being a landlord boomer in canada means you are unfairly befitting from a first come first serve form of socialism that is meant to price out younger generations and keep then as rent slaves while the government works to keep it so.
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>>534021533
Economic leftism has 2 major flaws.

1. The deep seated request they are making is. You shouldn't be able to pass things onto your kids. Every generation should reset.

2. The means of production fell out of the sky and landed on a lucky few.

2 is somewhat related to 1. But the root of all their complains is those two.

In the case of OP. They believe the landlord luckily got the property given to them by some supreme figure, and therefore it's unfair that they charge for it
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>>534021799
you live like a cuck and will die like a cuck
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>>534021533
Just envy.
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I'm a landlord so I can put my kids through college. Do I care what leftists think?
NO
Do I care about my kids getting an education?
YES

that's so simple I think even a blue haired chick with a nose ring can't understand lol
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>>534021533
Why do live music fans hate scalpers?
Why do conservatives hate people who claim public assistance?
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>>534021689
Jews push communism which says that landlords should be killed. There is nothing more anti-Jewish than a landlord.
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>>534021828


Systems fair, git gud.
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>>534021533
No one forces you to live in someone else's house. If you can't afford a downtown apartment, buy a cheaper one in the suburbs.
>BUT LIVING IN MANHATTAN IS A BASIC HUMAN RIGHT!!
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>>534021768
They aren't smart enough to understand basic physics.
>>534021533
Why can't I just go to an empty land and build a home myself like literally all humans throughout human history did, before this fake and gay age I am born in?
>You have to pay a third of your wage to someone reeeeeeeee
Fuck you.
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>>534021866
Yeah that's simple and easy to understand - you want to exploit people who already have less money than you and extract a huge portion of their income, unearned, and justify it to yourself as looking after your kids.
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>>534021533
Because they don’t actually contribute anything
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>>534021533
>Why do leftists hate landlords so much?

Because they love taxes and being told what to do by the government so they have to blame the people they voluntarily give a third of their money to have a place to live instead of the people who take a third of their money by force and spend it on Israel and corrupt NGOs.
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>>534021533
They could just get a mortgage if they hate landlords so much.
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>>534021533
It's funny because leftists over here hate home owners.
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>Why do leftists hate landlords so much?

Because leftists dont like it when the landlord they avoided paying for the past 4 months comes knocking and finds out they turned his house into a drugden and there are crack whores semi-dead on the living room.

The american housing crisis is something else entirely tho, corporate entities hoarding hundreds of properties is what is causing this madness.

Solving the housing crisis is rather easy, make it so corporations cannot purchase residential property for rent under any circunstance, and make it illegal for any person to own more than 3 residential properties. This would not only lower rents, but also FORCE greedy boomers to pass down their properties to their children.
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>>534021533
If it was illegal to own property you weren't actively living in (punishable by public execution), housing problems would vanish.
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They'll be round up with government officials, those that control the currency, the financial elite, media elite, and any heads of mega corpos. All cut from the same cloth to poison a nation.
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>>534022042
Charity exists. But it should be just that. Charity.
The moment it becomes forced, it's theft


The moment you legalise and legislate theft, you destabilize society.

The reason it's theft and rent isn't theft is that you can choose not to pay rent. Find a cheaper place to live.
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>>534022169
>make it so corporations cannot purchase residential property for rent under any circunstance
Based.
>make it illegal for any person to own more than 3 residential properties
Cucked.
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>>534021799
>1:
I don’t think it’s necessarily “reset” as much as spread out the wealth and provide equal opportunity to each generation that is their goal. But then they make the absolutely retarded and incompatible stance of providing equal opportunity to an unlimited number of immigrants.
>2:
In recent years in pretty much does. In the case of landlords, most of them get into that position by buying and holding properties they did not build using wealth that younger generations can’t compete with.

A fun comparison is farming. Nobody would complain if a farmer sells grain for a profit. Buy up all the grain just because you can and then resell it at a higher price? You’re a monster.

Somehow we’ve conflated the property developer with the slum lord and it makes the argument murky.
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>>534021906
They also push capitalism. Your jew tricks won't work here jew boy, we're national socialists here.
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>>534021533
Boomers are largely gatekeeping millennials and gen z out of the property market, preventing them from owning property. If you don't already hate the property portfolio owning class, you probably should be.
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>>534022217
This website is for users aged 18 and over.
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>>534021533
Wait till they hear about income tax.
Landlords should have to provide health care for tenants btw.
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Leftists hate property for the same reason incels hate women.

Because they are too incompetent to get any.
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>>534021533
We should claim 50%. Don’t like it? Find a bridge and put a tent under it, slave class subhuman.
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>>534021906
Nice try boomer.
Landlords are kikes.
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>>534021799
Leftism and Communism are deeply rooted in envy. They don't want to create and share what others have, they want it for themselves. They don't hate authority, they wish to wield it for themselves.
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>>534022498
It's fine to believe capitalism is a meritocracy, but to be consistent you also have to believe that the people who have benefited most from capitalism must therefore be the best and brightest people. That's impossible to square with even casual observation of them.
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>>534021533
You have insane Nimby laws. That's what keeps housing supply chronically too low.
Here, when a neighborhood becomes popular, people start splitting their properties and build 2-5 houses on the place of one. In many cities in the US this is strictly illegal.
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>>534021533
>renters will pay 1/3 of their money towards rent instead of not being faggots
not my problem
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>>534022564
>Jews actually hate communism!
Nice try, Moshe.
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>>534021533
>Why do leftists hate landlords so much?

Because landlords eat up 2/3 to 3/4 of everyone's paycheck and nobody else can afford to own now. It's fucking horrible trying to survive.
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>>534022796
>have an unrestricted immigration problem
>instead of fixing that problem, build housing for them (that can never keep up with demand)
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>>534021906
>race of people who want all the power and money and capital in the world
>race of people who want a moneyless capital-free society
Schrodinger's Jew, everyone. It's obviously the first one. Communism, socialism, and anarchism are inherently anti-Jewish
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>>534022166
can you even be a leftist without hating something?
>smash!
>destroy!
>overthrow!
>dismantle!
all traditional leftist language
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>>534022624

Bullshit excuses. The earth has at least 6 thousand years of record history, and every living individual comes from a bloodline that began at the start of time. Are you telling me that for these thousands of years your family was so completely idiotic, incomptent and stupid that they couldnt amass enough wealth to have at least ONE property to live in?

If your bloodline has been on this planet for thousands of years and hasant been able to build even a modest place with a roof to live in, maybe you dont deserve one, even the most primitive natives in the amazon are capable of cuting down a few tress, putting a tatched roof over it and make it a home.

Aside from your parents, nobody is under any obligation to provide you with shelter, running water and electricity. Dont like paying rent? Cool, go live with them, then, stop lusting for other people's stuff and blaming capitalism for your own greed and incompetence.
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>>534023342
A lot of unwarranted assumptions there. The issue here is that our tax systems favours investment in housing and successive governments maintain the status quo so as not to lose their core voters. I don't think it's helpful or useful to have people go homeless while an ever-dwindling portion of the population pretends that selling houses to each other is a healthy and productive economy. I'd rather see people able to live with dignity in an economy that creates job and exports rather than tying up capital in scalping a basic human need.
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>>534023342
you forget that the world changes. capitalism incentivizes eventually setting your economy up in such a way that the majority of the population has to rent instead of own because it's essentially infinite income for property owners. people aren't renting because they want to, we're renting because "you will own nothing and you will be happy" is coming to fruition, because it further benefits the richest people and keeps the poorest of us working for life. makes sense to me, i know if i owned a home with solar power and all i had to pay was property tax and water, i'd barely work ever again. i'd work 2 days a week at a bookstore or some shit, or i'd work full time for a year and then quit and take a year off to travel with all the extra income i've got, because i have zero desire to slave away for greedy capitalist jews
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>>534021533
how much do hotel owners take compared to that and why don't they get any shit from it ?
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>>534023068
check Karl Marx's early life
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>>534021533
because they take 1/3rds of peoples incomes? Though realistically in the US these days it's a lot higher
it's normal for the exploited to hate their exploiters, it's stupid not to. If you pay rent and defend landlords you're a retarded cuck.
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>>534021533
Because they think they are entitled to free things for espousing a stupid ass 19th century meme ideology
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>>534021906
meanwhile...
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>>534021906
Jews also push capitalism.
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>>534021906
Can you feel it?
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>>534021533
Landlords are either living paycheck to paycheck off your paycheck, your literal roommate, a slumlord or they sold out to some property management company owned by a Chinese fellow who doesn't even live in the United States that outsources management, maintenance, customer support and rent adjustments to a 3rd party.

There's no real inbetween these choices other than you personally have a long standing good trust relationship with them.

Hoping one day we eliminated the non-US residing Chinese landlord management companies completely and require local ownership that resides in the county/state for majority of the year. If not municipality.

Parasitic landlords who only own one of two properties and essentially leech off that as their sole way of getting by are still private citizens and not large corporate monopolies and I'd be okay with them still existing.
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I'm a landlord and I rent out 3 apartments mostly to people who stay 1-5 years (short term, students). There is no point in buying your own place if you're not planning on staying.
That being said, the mortage and the rent you pay is the same basically. Buy your own place instead of renting.
Renting an apartment longterm is like working an entry-level temporary job like McDonalds thinking you're there forever.
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>>534021533
Adam Smith was a leftist? That's a new one.
Landlording was a basis for feudalism. If you protect landlords you protect serfdom.
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>>534025059
Unearned profits are an anti-semitic myth
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>>534022312
Bullshit. Millennials own niggertier thought patterns are the only thing stopping them. I know a lot of millennials who got into the property market, but you have to work and save a little at first, oh my the horror. Fucking lazy cunts.
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>>534021533
Landlords are like privatised taxes. They are not doing anything, they just monopolised living and now want to tax your existence. When government taxes you sure lot of it gets lost in corruption and feeding useless niggers, but lot of it also gets used to just improve or maintain infrastructure and finance schools, hospitals and military. Landlord rent only finances the utilities of the property, which is ok, but the price of land rose so high over the decades that now you are only paying like 25% of the rent for utilities because price of utilities didn’t go up 4x during the time but rent and property values did. So you are just in the end paying some asshole his salary because he bought early on and similar assholes cornered the market to raise the prices. Landlords are everything wrong with the government that libertarians criticise while having almost none of the benefits. They are like mom an pop hyper corrupt governments.
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>>534021533
impaying almost 1/2 my income $700/week
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Small landlords dont make any money after tax, maintenance, repairs, replacement of furniture, the occasional renovation, etc etc.

I sold my investment property. Wasnt worth the hassle.
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>>534026009
I also realized this. Last year the place I was staying at needed a new furnace because the current one was too old to repair. I spoke to the technicians after they finished the job and the bill ended up being almost the total cost of rent at that house for an entire year.
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>>534022042
You a college boy ain't ya?
Wait until you gone off and had you a family before you start all hollerin like you pay my bills.
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>>534022232
>Buy up all the grain just because you can and then resell it at a higher price? You’re a monster.

Well, why didn't the people eating the grain buy it first?
Are they not responsible for their own economic future? Are they cattle that must be cared for by the capitalist?
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>>534026275
Ireland has brought in rent control so in 6 years time I can reset the rent to...what some government organization decides. If I dont do a big energy upgrade they decide I have to reduce the rent it seems.
So its just pointless now. They are handing the whole rental market to corporations. Lets see how that works out for renters.

Anyway im going to sell the property, taking it off the rental market and pay down the mortgage on my house.
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>>534026009
Do you guys have high property taxes? Because property taxes based on the price of homes are stupid and are just government taking advantage of global housing crisis to increase taxation and make high rent prices everyone’s problem.
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>>534021533
because they are often filthy kikes. A family home is NOT something people should be getting money from. Commercial real estate, sure, because there is commerce going on and money being made. A fucking family home is a goddamn home. The only fuckers that should be earning any profit off a home is the motherfuckers building it. People "earning" money by simply owning something or having money is fucking disgusting, evil kike behavior.
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>>534021689
>>534021906

Both are Jewish, the only non Jewish option is personal homeownership.
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>>534025885
> Landlord rent only finances the utilities of the property,
Most of the landlords do not do even that.
It was a problem during feudalism, especially with Church who had more land that it could maintain but even refused to lend it for farming, because it was theirs. It also rose the value of the land they used and crops they sold, so they had no interest in using the unused land. As Adam Smith wrote - net negative for economy and society.
And now we have similar shit going on with housing.
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>>534026009
>Small landlords
Having one or even two spare houses is not even landlording.
>maintenance, repairs, replacement of furniture, the occasional renovation, etc etc.
Most landlords do not even do this. Normal people on the other hand if they could own their own housing would do this which would pour money to maintenance people and services. Economy would only benefit from people owning their own homes.
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>>534026374
Property taxes are relatively new in Ireland. They started small and are shooting up.
> just government taking advantage of X to increase taxation and make high Y prices everyone’s problem.

ireland fucking sucks.
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>>534026833
>pour money to maintenance people and services
The people that you can pay to maintain and services things in Ireland are criminals and greedy jews. Do not give them money. Ever.
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>>534021533
I'm a right-wing Thatcherite and I hate the system of landlording too.

It's parasitic and coupled with unrestrained importation of browns has caused high demand + limited supply of homes, which means landlords can charge more, which makes housing unaffordable for young people and low-income renters.

Many rental properties are badly maintained. This is a long-standing issue in the UK. Even our retarded government has tried to do something about it with the Renters’ Rights Act (2025–2026) in ending no-fault evictions, stricter property standards, limits on rent increases etc.
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>>534021533
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>>534021533
because they are retarded bottom feeders who have honestly accepted their place atz the bottom and don't want to invest any effort into leaving it, but just hate the fact that there are others who aren't pathetic losers like them, so they try to crab bucket as hard as they can.
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>>534026880
Here we don’t have property taxes that scale with home prices and thank god. Here in Prague the housing prices are the worst in Western world, 19 times per-taxed median income and half of the city is rented for AirBnBs, if they introduced property taxes that number would skyrocket because temporarily home prices would decrease as everyone working actual job would leave and sell their homes to live in Eastern Europe village, and then it would all be bought up by Nigger Boulder companies and used as tourist hotels because scamming tourists makes more money then Czech paychecks. Without property taxes scaling with housing problem we can just live with our parents forever and finance their retirement because our own retirement program stopped working properly. I am Incel autist that never got a gf despite trying and I am 25, I therefore had a deal with my GenX mom that I will split my paycheck with her when she retires so I don’t have to deal with mortgages and she does not have to deal with collapsing retirement plans.
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It wouldn't be a problem if people were allowed to build more. Construction permiting doesn't keep up with demand.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjFRyfPe62I
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>>534021533
>1/3 of someones income
like my government, who uses it to give to niggers and shitskins to rape women, jews to destroy us and homosexual NGOs to show our children gay porn in school?
actually, scratch that, it's more like 45%
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>>534025529
>nigger tier thought patterns
Yeah sure thing, just let me go back to when I wad 8 years old so I can buy a house before three economic crisis in a row completely destroyed my future.

You stupid fucking nigger.
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>>534021533
Landlords take half your income, not 1/3rd.
If they only took half your income you might actually get somewhere in life, and that wouldn't be good for them.
Landlords are evil generally, even the ones that have a tiny bit of compassion, who are all Silent Generation or Boomers. They're just leftovers from a time when people were treated like humans occasionally.
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>>534026902
I am fairly sure that you have a lot of regulations who can maintain what and they need some certificated to do their job.
Also Adam Smith was talking about this being hindrace on economy and being used by lobbying guilds to hinder people's ability to maintain crap themselves. And it was long before home equipment started being high tech and complicated.
You can see this ideas going strong even with gaming consoles where any repair outside of official support store will cut you out from internet play.
I am actually amazed no government attacked car mechanics yet. Though if you want to have repairs done on warranty you have to go to the certified one who usually is expensive and shitty.
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>>534026307
it doesn't fucking matter. you aren't allowed to starve people no matter your justification. if you try i will kill you. it is always morally correct to use force to prevent hoarders from starving people to death and if the hoarders resist and lethal force is required then so be it.

you are simply not allowed to starve people. ever. your rationalisations fail against this moral truth.

>"i disagree"
face the wall.
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>>534021533
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>>534027209
Solution is easy. Do not scale property tax by property, scale it by person. Exactly like PIT works.
You own big mansion? Pay more. You own dozen of houses? Pay more. You own small home pay less or nothing.
inb4. they will write off mansions to family or homeless. Yes, go ahead and do that. Kids will thank you and homeless will cease to be homeless when he sues you and kicks you out of "his" home.
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Good
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>>534026368
>Lets see how that works out for renters.
probably better.

small business is inefficient and shit. corporations suck because they have political power, but they tend to deliver better outcomes for workers and customers. for every walmart wageslave there's some dude working for a small business tyrant having his wages stolen.
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>>534027470
Add Hasan's blood to the river. All landlords need to go. No exceptions.
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>>534021533
Why don't they just buy a house of they don't like renting?
>inb4 they can't afford to
So landlords are providing them with a necessary service. How ungrateful.
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>landlords are evil bro they take half your income
>let the glorified welfare jobs program that already takes a third of your income by law run the scam instead
They hate that they have to actually *spend* the money on rent, as opposed to just never actually seeing the money in the first place. If it was deducted from their direct deposit every week they'd genuinely never notice
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>>534021533
modern leftists either are:
-poor and destitute (sp?), or immigrants sons of people that "came with nothing" that think the reason they're poor is because of rich people and not because they're leeches of society that contribute nothing and have made up occupations with no value
-too lenient and pity the above
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>>534021533
1. market forces determine rent.
2. if the government restricts housing development and imposes high taxes, rent will be high.
3. Eliminating taxes and regulations so that housing can become abundant will lower rent.

A socialist does not want 'lower rent.' They want to dominate your life - They want to have the power to tell you where you can live, the job you'll have, how much you will get paid, whether you have a car or not, whether you can travel or not, even whether you can reproduce, or even live or not. Freedom is worth preserving. Do not fall for the lies of socialists.
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>>534026307
>There are 5 people in need of buying 5 blankets.
>The blankets are $10 each.
>4 of the 5 people have $15, the one remaining only has $10.
>A wealthy entrepreneur sees an opportunity and snaps up all 5 blankets. He then resells them for $15.
>The four who can afford it grumble, but buy the blanket anyway.
>The fifth can get fucked and freeze to death. Serves him right for being poor.
>The entrepreneur made $10 profit and has an extra blanket while creating nothing of value.
This is what’s happening on a much larger scale. There is no way to justify it.
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A lot of laws need to be changed to influence housing options. Rent (realistically) shouldn't be more than 1/4 of your monthly income, if that. If you make $15 an hour, that's $2400 a month thereabouts. So you shouldn't be paying more than $600 for rent. I'd argue utilities should be included (Water and electricity), but internet and other subscription services should obviously be a premium. We can split hairs on that if you'd like.

The cheapest I could find in my area was $650 a month, which would take a big bite out of your $2400 (these are wages before taxes are taken out).
>"Why does it have to be 1/4 of your income!?"
There's no hard and fast law saying it should be, HUD uses 30% of gross income as the threshold for ‘cost-burdened’ renters because data consistently show higher burdens correlate with financial hardship, health problems, and instability. Factor in that most people aren't living in the absolute shit box houses for $600 a month (closer to $800~$1200 a month) and that $2400 starts to run out of steam pretty quick. The math works out even worse if utilities aren't included and the person has to care for a family on that budget.

There should be government housing options offering rentals in the $400 range, backed by housing vouchers or something similar. Do this to offer SOME competition to commercial rental properties so they have a modicum of incentive to lower rental prices to something reasonable or significantly improve their rental property to make the higher rent make more sense (utilities included, 24-hour-appliance repair coverage, security systems, etc)
>"muh property value!"
Fuck your property value. People need a place to live. Boomers had decades to fix this, and they shit the bed on a generational level. Years of NIBYism and anti-consumer legislation have created a system that railroads the poor into the ground when it comes to housing.
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>>534028949
>>The fifth can get fucked and freeze to death. Serves him right for being poor.

gdp per capita goes up
unemployment and homeless dead poorfag goes down
free blanket for nigger immigrant to rape white whore


man, everybody wins !
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>>534028957
>People need a place to live.
free housing for niggers isnt a right
get a better job, poorfag
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>>534026946
>unrestrained importation of browns
this is your real problem
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>>534027552
>Do not scale property tax by property, scale it by person.


really ?


>>534027552
>You own big mansion? Pay more.
uhhh thats property, you stupid toilet licker
>>534027552
>You own dozen of houses?
uhhh thats property, you stupid toilet licker
>>534027552
>You own small home pay less or nothing.
uhhh thats STILL property, you stupid toilet licker

you must live with mommy to be that stupid
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>>534028957
When Gen Alpha starts going door to door and lynching landlords, I won't even be able to blame them. Full on Ron Paul, "This is the future you chose."

Like a lot of shitty decisions made by boomers, this shittiness was entirely avoidable. Due to poor decision-making on their part and a failure to think about the future generations coming after them, a lot of senseless pain and suffering is going to be doled out when very simple and painless solutions could have been employed decades ago. But it wasn't enough, was it? It wasn't enough that you made most of the money; you wanted to have ALL of the money. I hope you and your trophy wife get the Clockwork Orange treatment. For the extra sprinkle of irony, I hope the niggers you let into the country are the ones who do it. As they slam down their cudgel onto wrinkly fucking head, the last thought on your lead-paint riddled mind should be
>"...at least I'm not racist."
And you can go softly into that good night as he proceeds to rape your wife to death.
>>534029143
Don't worry, we have a place in the camp for you slavanon. Arbeit macht frei.
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>>534027209
>I am Incel autist that never got a gf
explains it all right there
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>>534027309
Yes it would. You can't just build houses indefinitely.
Besides, almost all houses built are being built by businesses as rentals.

Actually, why do people who repeat this never check the numbers?
America has 148.7 million "housing units" (houses, apartments, etc).
The average home has 2.8 bedrooms (includes apartments).
There are roughly 265 million adults in America, roughly 55% of those live with a partner (46.4% married, 9.1% with an unmarried partner).
That means 146 million "groups" need a housing unit, sadly there are only 148.7 million 2.8 bedroom houses to go around so -2.7 million are forced to be homeless.

That's strange, I thought there was a housing shortage.
Would you look at that, 15.1 million houses are vacant (2024).

Stop repeating jewish talking points, think a little.
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>>534029143
You either treat housing as a need and make sure it's affordable, or you treat it as an investment and demand exorbitant amounts of money to ever access one and understand that you're going to get hoovervilles popping up all over your cities as your citizens can no longer afford housing and let them.

The USA wants to have its cake and eat it by demanding millions for the privilege to do something as basic as housing and throw you in a for profit prison industrial complex if you try and build yourself a sheet metal favela close to where you work so the rain doesn't kill you and keep you as a slave.

People won't tolerate the slow broil once it reaches a boiling point. We'll see what happens first, them turning down the heat or an exploding pressure cooker
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>>534021533
idk but libtards are too proud to just buy a trailer and live in that super cheaply to save for a house downpayment.
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>>534023232
All leftists hate everything in the west, it doesn't matter what it is. Landlords or homeowners in non-western countries are good, but not in the west. Marxism has incorporated things like reverse colonization from people like Sartre, they believe that the west needs to be ruled by third worldists (the global south) and that it needs to be destroyed.
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>>534029300
That is only relevant to the fact that I will never have my own family, so fully taking care of my mother until she dies is not a waste of lifetime I could dedicate to my own kids and family.
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>>534029276
Maybe learn to read before commenting fucking nigger. I said tax property. Are you really that stupid you couldn't read two lines of text and had to show it 3 times in your post?
Or maybe you think PIT is property tax? It is Personal Income Tax.
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>>534029331
LAs housing problems are not New York housing problems. Just like West Virginias housing issues are not the same as the Midwest.

High rent is an issue everywhere. New York has empty highrises built with luxury condos owned by rich people who never visit them as an investment of their wealth.

Meanwhile urban sprawl and single family homes in the heart of LA is forcing a housing crisis when there is no valid reason for them over at least 5 over 1s or whatever mid density housing is approved for earthquake code.
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>>534029353
>You either treat housing as a need and make sure it's affordable,
let me tell you a secret..... during commietime, we had tins of housing shortages as well.
and getting a better job didnt even work to get a flat. so at least you fuckers have a chance.

now, that we have superglobhomo capitalist jewsa mongering, we still have the same problem, not enough housing.

only now, WE CAN GET A BETTER JOB, MAKE MORE MONEY, AND SOLVE THE PROBLEM.

you stupid fucks think more government will solve the problem

more government CREATED the problem.
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>>534029437
>I said tax property.

>>534029276
>>Do not scale property tax by property, scale it by person.

POLISH EDUCATION RIGHT THERE, TOILET BOY

LEARN HOW TO ESL DUMBASS
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>>534021533
There wouldn't be a landlord problem if there weren't a bank problem
There wouldn't be a bank problem if there weren't a real estate problem
There wouldn't be a real estate problem if there weren't a mass immigration problem
There wouldn't be a mass immigration problem if..
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>>534029470
So it's time to tax the shit out of them for empty housing.
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>>534027459
>b-b-but zillow says the rent estimate on my shithole in this nigger infested neighborhood is $2800.
>I don't want to leave money on the table.
>don't blame me, blame the market.
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>>534029497
Imagine listening to a fucking *checks flag* SLOWAKIAN on anything finance related, lmao
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Leftists refuse to accept that the leftist policy of mass immigration is the main cause of rents rising so much. First they screw it up with their retarded migration policies and than they cry about market failure.
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>>534029497
I am not calling for communism, but if you make renting unaffordable compared to what workers make along side the rest of cost of living, the people will eventually revolt against their landlords.

America is not very densely populated and unlike Russia the majority of it is actually inhabitable and not a Siberian wasteland.
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>>534027470
Reminds me of the fact that Marx had friends who financed him who knew factory owners.
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>>534029555
>m if there weren't a mass immigration problem
>There wouldn't be a mass immigration problem if..
this nigger gets it
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>>534029569
Indeed. It needs to be scaled as well. Every property over x amount gets taxed x% more, scaling upward towards 30%~40%. Basically, we need to have a strong incentive for mega corp rental industries to keep housing prices low, particularly when they own 1000's upon 1000's of rentals.

This is somewhat of a roundabout way to tax the rich, but if doing so makes them behave in a more humane manner, then I suppose it's not the worst process. Scaling it will also protect smaller mom and pop landlords who may only own 3 or 4 rentals as a retirement plan.
>>534029596
Yeah, their life is literally worth less than pig shit. Pure drone fodder.
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Even the "father of capitalism" hated landlords because unless they footed the bill for constructing the building (which is extremely rare) rent-seeking is completely economically unproductive behaviour.
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>>534029646
>the people will eventually revolt against their landlords.

we didnt do shit, and neither will you
you will keep doing everything possible to not become the tent homeless, and when you do, you will do fentachink to rot your brain away from it

revolutions not happening bro, stop dreaming
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>>534021533
It’s basic Jealousy
It’s the root of all communist socialist Marxist Maoist collectivist ideologies
They can’t earn what you have so they use the state to take it , simple
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>>534029646
>America is not very densely populated

the best example of this is actually canaderp
how is it possible a country that big has housing prices like that ? laughable
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>>534021533
Rent slaves have no rights.
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>>534021533
A literal 5 year old child has more valuable opinion than a rent slave, at least their mother still loves them.
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>>534029742
>This is somewhat of a roundabout way to tax the rich,

no it isnt
its a direct way of showing your stupidity
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>>534029861
Shut up slav nigger. Get droned.
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>>534025529
nigga flat here cost like 10k pounds in early 2000, now it cost 150k or more
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>>534029814
Let's listen to what the jew media says on the subject
>we're not building more homes to alleviate excessive real estate prices because... we're scared to create another RE bubble
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/25/headway/housing-starts-newsletter.html
Lmao you cannot make up this level of chutzpah
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>>534021533
do these retards really think they should get to live in other people's homes for free?
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>>534029887
>Shut up slav nigger. Get droned.

shut up fat nigger bastard, get drafted and die for jews

AND THEIR FOR PROFIT HOUSES !
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>>534029938
I'm wealthier than any of you and yes, people should be able to live in other people's homes at below market price when said market price grows much faster than wages
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>>534029936
>Lmao you cannot make up this level of chutzpah

and they call mamfucknutimmigrantmudslimedammi
a progressive communist ?

its so hilarious
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>>534029938
>do these retards really think they should get to live in other people's homes for free?

yes, and the owners should pay extra taxes as well
double taxes in fact.
and there is more
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Most of /pol/ is NPC.

They associate hating landlords with being a commie, and can't fucking think for themselves. Government intervention aka socialism benefits landlords by making it hard for housing prices to go down. So landlords are thieves.

Every time I point this out, I get some stupid wagie chump calling me poor. The other day, a spanish guy in Poland was calling me poor and gloating because he owns his home. And yet, when I argue against socialism in other contexts, no one calls me poor, because in other contexts, they associate arguing for capitalism with having money. I hate how stupid the avg person is, they don't have an inner monologue or thoughts, they just respond to stimuli.
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>>534021533
There's just gotta be laws against landlording. Homes are means to live and raise a family, not to make quick bux out of desperate ppl and the supply is limited. This is where state gotta step in and punish home ownership really hard for those who don't live in them and just want to get bux. Make renting out economically unfeasible and suddenly housing crisis is solved but guess what? It improves birth rate too! Easy right? Basic supplies should be controlled by state, not by corpos or entrepreneurs.
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>>534021533
Because they don't realize that they are profiting from subsidized housing.
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>>534030091
Imagine if rent slaves become so destitute and live in such a disgusting pile of their own filth that they try to rise up. It will never happen, they will just keep renting.
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>>534029531
>Do not scale property tax by property, scale it by person.
Oh so you are too stupid to understand this thing. My god.
It literally means - tax person who owns a property not a property itself. Right now properties are actually taxed all around the world, but they are taxed as property, meaning whoever owns it pays exactly the same tax per m2.
While I propose taxation of property by person which would mean some properties would be taxed less than others depending on how many properties a person has. Making "property tax" actually a personal tax.
Damn nigger you are too stupid to understand taxation and you go into topic about taxes without basic knowledge of how taxes work.
Stop making fool of yourself retarded idiot.
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Imagine someone in a communist country saying to the other starving people
>You're so fucking entitled! You got to work for things! If you want to have bread to it, stop whining and get a job at a government bureau, then you'll eat!
>If you tried to start your own business and the government took everything for you, it's your problem if your family starves. You're responsible for your life. You need to realize you're not entitled to anything and work harder. Government officials worked for what they have.
This is basically """""right wingers""""" when they are perfectly fine with coercion bases housing prices and say similar things but for housing. They have no concept of how markets work or what capitalism should stand for.
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>>534030157
>This is where state gotta step in and punish home ownership really hard for those who don't live in them and just want to get bux.

YES MORE TAXES MEIN FUHRER, THIS WILL FIX THE PROBLEM.

>>534030157
>Make renting out economically unfeasible and suddenly housing crisis is solved

yes but homelessness goes to 60%

OH YES MEIN FUHRER WE LL JUST SEIZE THE HOUSES AND GIVE THEM TO PEOPLE,
THAT WILL FIX THE PROBEM

no downwind secondary impacts from that

>>534030137
>I hate how stupid the avg person is, they don't have an inner monologue or thoughts, they just respond to stimuli.

this kraut is special stupid
he must like all the sandniggers invading his shithole
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>>534030294
Found the landlordjew
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>>534030289
I'm a landlord obviously I'll argue against you. Now rents due so pay up
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>>534030287
go stick your head in the toilet you retarded fucking child moron
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>>534030157
The problem is, state is the biggest land owner, then you have banks and funds who fund politicians. And then if you look close up at your politicians they are also landowners. To go against these you would need a real revolt.
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>>534030310
I don't even blame landlords. They didn't do anything wrong as they didn't create the problem. I blame the government.

Of course, I argue that landlords are thieves, but only because they get stolen money. They didn't choose that or create the situation.
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>>534030306
as i said there is your special stupid
is recess time over soon ?
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>>534030287
That is not bad idea. In all cases major concentration of wealth or capital should be punished and redistributed, otherwise we are going straight into neo slavery.
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>>534021799
>You shouldn't be able to pass things onto your kids. Every generation should reset.
Yes, true equality means everyone has to start the race from the same line. Private schooling or daddy's old Yale network shouldn't be a viable substitute for intelligence and drive. If you wanna get ahead, you should have to go through the same struggle like everyone else. Rigging the race by giving a few participants a head start just causes everyone else to lose their motivation to participate. At the end of the day, you get less productivity.
Further, by forcing true equality, rich people would never again have to justify their wealth or explain why they're driving a Bentley while people are starving in the streets. They could truthfully claim that they deserve it. It would be a win-win situation.

>The means of production fell out of the sky and landed on a lucky few.
That's not what the left claims.
The left claims the means of production were created through hard work and are now owned by someone who didn't participate in their creation.

>the root of all their complains is those two
Correct.

>They believe the landlord luckily got the property given to them by some supreme figure
Nothing supreme about them. It's just their old daddy who sprayed money up their ass and secured that Harvard admission because their boy's grades would have been to bad for regular entry, or talked with his CEO buddies to secure that internship to get his boy's career going, or who bribed the judge he knew back from Epstein Island to throw out that vehicular manslaughter case because that would really be a dent in this young man's bright future etc. pp.

>therefore it's unfair that they charge for it
Correct, you shouldn't be allowed to charge for a product you didn't create yourself.
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>>534030157
Your intentions are good, but you need to realize, first, that more laws to fix problems the government created, never works out. And second, if there's not enough homes, there's not enough homes. More need to be built, and that's done by removing the root of the problem.

And second, despite your intentions, the fact is that if you are against what I am saying, you are not only the reason housing prices are high (most people not understanding why they are), but in fact deserve to suffer from it, as you impose that on others.
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>>534030294
>YES MORE TAXES MEIN FUHRER, THIS WILL FIX THE PROBLEM.
Unavoidable taxation will fix the problem.
But you are just too niggery to understand how taxation works. Do you even pay taxes kid?
>>534030345
Oh the strength of this argument.
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>>534030517
>Further, by forcing true equality, rich people would never again have to justify their wealth or explain why they're driving a Bentley while people are starving in the streets. They could truthfully claim that they deserve it. It would be a win-win situation.
Lol. Are there also unicorns in this story?
I come from poor family and I got it right by going into IT and I earn good money, I am not some millionaire but in my shithole I am doing fine.
And your fucking leftists cry about TAXING ME AND PEOPLE LIKE ME.
No leftist say tax actors, tax sportsmen, tax celebrities, tax politicians (who actually pay lower taxes in EU). No, they always go for middle class people who are in 90% self made people you described.
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>>534021533

The homo bourgeois Left are in the exploiting the poor business. Landlords are a big part of that. All rent is theft.
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>1/3
>>1/3
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>>534030557
In Poland there are 200k, yes 200 000 free unused homes aorund Warsaw (capital city) which are just investment apartments that are sitting empty.
If these were taxed they would be put into market and people would live in them.
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>>534025996
Unless you have kids and really want a backyard your paying way to much.
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>>534021533
Why millennials whine so much and do so little? Just don't rent, faggot
>Why rent is expensive reeee?
>Why tips are so small reeeee?
>Why can't somebody just gob me munny reeeeee???
>Why can't I just cut my dick off for free reeeee???
>Why nobody hires me for my genders in videogames degree reeeeeeee???
Is there any end to this faggotry?
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>>534022974
>jews don't use usury as a weapon
Kill yourself schlomo.
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>>534030803
And housing is expensive over there? And the people who own those homes don't even want to benefit from that?

Here, leftists say there's a gorillion empty homes, which of course isnt true. But even if it's true, if the government allowed more construction, no one would get "investment apartments" anymore than they'd get "investment cars", and also, there would be other homes to solve the problem anyway.

All housing investments are based on the assumption that the government will pose a problem for creating more homes with their license and paperwork requirements, and thus homes will gain value over time due to the scarcity.
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>>534021533
Most landlords are dork faggots that didn’t get any pussy in HS/College so their only source of smuggery is that their a housefaggot
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>>534021906
>Landlords are anti jewish
Wtf, I love landlords now.
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>>534030832
Because we have a humiliation ritual nepotism economy where if you weren't born into it, you can't afford to buy housing and don't have the proper credit score for loans until you have rented for years and you can't get the salary based untipped jobs until you have started at the bottom and don't years of shit work to pay for credentials like a diploma..
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>>534028522
>rig market prices to bloat asset prices far beyond reality
>create false scarcity by turning rentals into airbnbs that sit empty
>use zillow to collude with corpos to further raise rents
>rent on a neglected shithole is now $1000+/mo
>blame the government and migrants that you openly voted for to get cheap labor and more renters
Traitor boomers using commie tactics to get rich and call it capitalism should be hung in public for all to see.
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>>534030675
>I come from poor family and I got it right by going into IT and I earn good money
Congrats to you, keep up the good work.

>I am not some millionaire
You're not rich then.

>And your fucking leftists cry about TAXING ME AND PEOPLE LIKE ME.
Who said that? One example please.

>No leftist say tax actors, tax sportsmen, tax celebrities, tax politicians (who actually pay lower taxes in EU).
Apparently you're deaf. Because that's all we're saying 24/7.

>No, they always go for middle class people who are in 90% self made people you described.
Being a multi-millionaire isn't middle class, anon. Well, maybe in Rupees, but not in US dollars.
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>>534030675
You are confusing things, self made doesn't mean you're making an honest living, a criminal could be self made. A professional thief or kidnapper could very well be self made, I think most probably are. This doesn't mean you're a criminal, I'm just saying it doesn't prove anything.

The average person is very bad at logical reasoning, so they confuse being self made, working for things... With it being an honest way to make money, and they're not the same thing. Hence this common misconception.

Leftists think that landlords are some kind of thieves who are ruining everything, of course they are not. Landlords don't, and can't, make it so nobody else can build more homes and compete with them to drive prices down. The government does that. But midwits don't understand how prices work or how market prices are set, they see landlords ask for high rent, so they blame the landlord, because their opinions are stimuli based, not logic based.

The reality is somewhere in the middle, yes, landlords make money off the government hurting people, but they're not creating the problem themselves.
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>>534029789
It might not be in my life time. I also don't think they're going to usurp complete control and end the charade here. Very possible we get pushed back into a situation similar to the gilded age in my life time. The parallels between the western frontier and the digital frontier being unregulated are all there.

The slow boil might decades more than I'll exist. I'm already at peace with that because I wouldn't fare any better off in a revolting state, what with no social safety net for myself and a disabled body.

I just think it is ridiculous we let human needs not get met in order to produce higher capital gains. A proper habitat, food, and water are all up there. The 21st century has evolved social aspects of humanity to require digitalization which requires power to run a basic computing set up and mobile devices, so some sort of publicly accessible intranet for your country would also be something I'd want met. Healthcare as well because an individual will always be more productive to society as a whole if they don't face road blocks into accessing a healthy lifestyle.
When you force workers to prioritize their housing, electric, water, food, internet and phone bill first and foremost over their healthcare so they put it off until their unhealthy habits, vices, etc compound into an untreated issue that makes them unable to do their specialization to society and then toss them aside into a discarded pile hoping they just wander into the woods to become some animals lunch is cruel, and far more of a drain to our entire system than just making something that works.

You can push for those industries to be affordable, pay a wage to every citizen that makes them affordable, and still have plenty of trades that you can capitalize a profit on without having crabs in a bucket pulling everyone else down because they can make an extra dollar knowing you don't want to die of cancer or lose everything being homeless.
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>>534031399
>Landlords don't, and can't, make it so nobody else can build more homes and compete with them to drive prices down. The government does that.
>but they're not creating the problem themselves.
Just ignore how often they lobby and vote for measures to perpetuate these conditions. And vote to keep the people who do so in power. Or how many politicians, council members, and other bureaucrats are landlords who enact policies favoring landlords. And how many are NIMBYs who protest whenever new housing is proposed.

If you just ignore that they are perfectly content to rig the system in innumerable ways to act as parasites, I guess they are blameless.
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>>534021533
>Why do leftists hate landlords so much?
losers hate anyone who has made anythign of themselves
it's just resentment
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>>534032165
the public votes for policies that suppress house building.
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>>534030452
>In all cases major concentration of wealth or capital should be punished and redistributed

you would do well in commierussia

hoever, as a useless or useful IDIOT, you would be killed off fairly early.. 1st purge
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>>534030517
>Private schooling or daddy's old Yale network shouldn't be a viable substitute for intelligence and drive. If you wanna get ahead,

the limeys used to have grammar schools, they would pick poor kids with brains and lift them up

but that of course is racist policy because niggers and cunts
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>>534021533
Because we can't afford a house and must rent from the "land lord" you retard.
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>>534022152
>"voluntarily"
>doesn't understand inelastic demand

>>534021799
>They believe the landlord luckily got the property given to them by some supreme figure, and therefore it's unfair that they charge for it
You don't understand even the most basic leftist concepts. It doesn't matter whether the landlord inherited the house or bought it because they are rent-seeking. They don't add value.

>but repairs and maintenance!
That's something homeowners do for their own homes or hire tradesmen and handymen to do. The majority of the money the landlord receives is by doing nothing, not for this service. They're also notoriously neglectful about it.

>but what if they made the house
Then they're a builder/carpenter/etc. and they've added value with their labor by making something.

>what if they flipped it
Also a builder. They're improving the property. The only problem with this is the constant catering to the wealthy and the treatment of houses as commodities and assets rather than dwellings.
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>>534030575
>Unavoidable taxation will fix the problem.
unavoidable taxation means leaving the jurisdiction, you absolutely criminally stupid faggot

just look at jew yawk city, they are now crying for rich people to come back.

>>534030575
>Oh the strength of this argument.
oh you are doing, it, good.
or do you live in the eastern no toilet only outhouse region of western russia ?
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>>534032521
>commierussia
which one?
Current have massive wealth inequality.
>as a useless or useful IDIOT
Stop projecting you wanker.
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>>534021799
I know two landlords my age and both were given the houses by their parents who paid ~70k for them back in the 90's.
do YOU think that's fair?
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>>534021533
Because they're retarded and far too cowardly to name the real problems. So they go after the little guy.
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>>534032151
>It might not be in my life time.

well then its just a wate of time and hopeful dreaming,with much cope.

>>534032151
>I just think it is ridiculous we let human needs not get met in order to produce higher capital gains. A proper habitat, food, and water are all up there. The 21st century has evolved social aspects of humanity to require digitalization which requires power to run a basic computing set up and mobile devices, so some sort of publicly accessible intranet for your country would also be something I'd want met. Healthcare as well because an individual will always be more productive to society as a whole if they don't face road blocks into accessing a healthy lifestyle.
>When you force workers to prioritize their housing, electric, water, food, internet and phone bill first and foremost over their healthcare so they put it off until their unhealthy habits, vices, etc compound into an untreated issue that makes them unable to do their specialization to society and then toss them aside into a discarded pile hoping they just wander into the woods to become some animals lunch is cruel, and far more of a drain to our entire system than just making something that works.

i didnt even read that crybaby drivel
you are the product of 80 years of peace and globohomo hegomony
you are so out of touch with reality you are already brain dead.
your a fucking moron for being such a cuck

the whole million year history of humans is conquest, theft, rape, pillage, and dog eat dog, tribe eat tribe.

if that makes you so unhappy, maybe you should stop being a human.
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>>534032656
>Current have massive wealth inequality.
and previous, silly cunt.. and previous to that
and previous to that
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>>534032715
>do YOU think that's fair?
you were (maybe) born into the top 2% of humans, into a top ten although criminal run shithole cuntry, and have all access to everything possible a human can have

do you think thats fair ?
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You're all cattle and Andrew Yang was your very last hope.
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>>534032877
and yet compared to modern the ussr have much smaller wealth inequality
DESU the only points in history when Russia even matter where times when their rules curb stomped their elites into the ground.
Ivan Terrible, Peter the Great, Josef Stalin - all of them smashed their elites(nobles, party, etc) into submission. The moment when ''elites'' get free hand - Russia was going into the trash.
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>>534021533
I dunno, why do you hate (((bankers)))? Landlords are just the bankers of real estate.
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>>534032715
>do YOU think that's fair?
yes and I hope you get shot by police when you go out to protest in favor of communism
maybe you shouldn't have had a shit absent dad and a dumb cow of a mom and then you too would have inherited something
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>>534021533
They’re idiots.
>landlords “take”
Dude go live elsewhere. Faggots think they can live in high density/demand cities and not have consequences.
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>>534032991
Entirely different because, outside of a few areas where maybe a landlord has monopoly, landlords dont individually have leverage the way massive banks do to distort markets.
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>>534021533
Landlords are the most important people on society. It’s a selfless job that deserves more respect.
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>>534033104
>landlords don't have leverage on the housing market
Lmao. Where's that Trump quote about how we need to keep homes expensive so 80 y.o. Republican-voting boomers don't lose their shekels?
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>>534027467
lmao you fat neckbeards always talk that shit on the internet, yet what do you ever ACTUALLY do when the landlord profits, or the people starve? You whine to the UN and appeal to the international community to come save you, then starve to death. You weak pussy bitches never do a fucking thing
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>>534032982
>the ussr have much smaller wealth inequality
you have just shown your complete and utter stupidity
you love the brainwashing the lefty faggot UK commies give you
keep lapping it up like nigger semen



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