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Day 1,525 – Daily assessment: understandingwar.org/analysis/russia-ukraine/#research

▶Latest
>Tuapussy droned AGAIN.
>Russian economy specialist Alexandra Prokopenko said the May 9 parade on Red Square will take place without military vehicles, featuring only a marching column, and only several hundred guests instead of the usual thousands. The event will last less than an hour.
>three ships and a Mig-31 droned in crimea
>Russia’s economy minister admits ‘reserves have largely been used up’ while communist lawmaker warns of 1917-style revolution as GDP shrinks
>193 Ukrainian soldiers are returning home as part of the prisoners swap with russia
>EU's €90bn loan for Ukraine and the 20th sanctions package against russia formally approved
>Drone forces destroyed the command post and rear deployment point of the FSB’s Directorate of Mobile Operations in the temporarily occupied Donetsk.
>russian communist party gen. sec. Zyuganov predicts total collapse of the so-called the federation on the russia by August 2026 under current trajectory
>US is now using Ukrainian anti-drone equipment to defend their bases - Reuters
>Ukraine has repaired the section of the Druzhba oil pipeline damaged by russian shelling
>Smoooking accident at the Tuapse refinery
>Smoooking accident at the Fosagro chemical plant in Cherepovets
>Szijjártó (orbán's FM) has barricaded himself with some of his closest colleagues and is shredding documents related to the sanctions on russia and any other evidence of treason


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▶12 min of TZD in one ditch (Pokrovsk area) - 28 killed
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TZD everyone
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when will the so called russia stop losing?
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>cofi status?

Borked the previous, sorry.
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kill all ziggers and zigger shills
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>>534025459
a smiling Budanov is just weird, anon
>cofi status?
first cuppa had, it was great
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>>534025404 #
We've got a sub parked 10m off the russian coast at all times.
But that's just so we can sneak in to piss in the Moscow reservoir.
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Ukraine is a Jewish state
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>>534025459
just had one but it was so-so :(
might grab a Starbucks frappuccino for my second coffee
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anyone have video of the ground drones talked about in this video?
https://x.com/KaterynaLis/status/2043827043863863404
i don't take zigger viewpoints but also 'we took over a place with nothing but robots' feels a bit too propaganda-y so i'm healthily skeptical without video proof
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>>534025532
Did you know that jews in Russian government are overrepresented by 60 000%? That is 12x more than USA and probably like million times more than Ukraine. Also, you obviously aren't a christian, since you apparently have no clue why Jesus is being censored in the picture.
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TZD
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>>534025377
So much this. I remember being worried for my job (programmer) in 1994 because AT&T had set up a software development program in Russia and I thought that if that took off, all the jobs would go there. After all, Russians were well known for their mathematical skills, and their programmers back then were some of the best because they had to make the most of their shitty equipment by writing the most efficient code possible.

Turns out I didn't need to worry. About nine months later I saw a short article about how the Russians had stolen all the equipment -- not just the computers but all the way down to pencils -- and sold it on the black market.

About 6 years later I worked with a Russian H-1B and he was just as great a programmer as I'd been afraid of back then. He was the only H-1B I ever worked with who was an actual expert who couldn't be replaced by an American.
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Hapoy dead r*ssians day!
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>>534025616
>Here's the perfectly legitimate reason we disrespected your religion
>It's not because we hate Jesus or anything
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>>534025634
Yeah Russians don't understand mutual help. They think it is a weakness. They play weak to drain you of resources and once they feel it is their chance, they steal everything. They are basically niggers.
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>>534025699
Again, you obviously aren't christian, since you are trying to spin an act of respecting a religion as an act of disrespecting it. You turn everything on its head, presenting bad as good and good as bad. You are jewish.
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>>534025532
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>>534025718
not what i believe, i believe in tzd
if terminator robots capable of clearing the scourge of the east exist i want to see them in action
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>>534025634
I knew a Ukrainian soviet rocket electronics engineer in Ireland. He left ukraine in the 1990s.
That lad bailed me out a few times. He could solder anything onto a PCB. The tiniest of things.
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>>534025730
So (a Jew associated with Epstein) giving the Pope an Icon with baby Jesus completely blacked out is actually an act of respect. Got it.
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BRAAAAPSE status?
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>>534025477
that is what /uhg/ orders you to do, not the other way round
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>>534025804
>a Jew associated with Epstein
Citation needed, kike
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>>534024946
three posts, zero substance, and he got the president's name wrong. let's do a comprehensive progress report for the class

anon you just rapid-fired three responses and every single one made things worse for you. let me walk through this real slow because you clearly need it

You don't know which president was removed:
You wrote "Yuschenko was unconstitutionally removed." Viktor Yushchenko was president from 2005–2010 and left office after losing an election. Nobody removed him. He keeps bees now. The president removed in 2014 was Yanukovych. You are writing walls of text about a constitutional crisis and don't know which president it happened to. This is like writing an essay about 9/11 and calling the president "George Washington Bush." Four years on this topic, anon. Four years.

You don't know which revolution your own source is about:

You posted a Guardian article as proof that the US ran Euromaidan. That article is from November 2004. It's about the Orange Revolution - a completely different event, a different decade, a different president, a different outcome. The Orange Revolution happened because Yanukovych's first presidential bid was marred by massive electoral fraud, the Supreme Court ordered a revote, and Yushchenko (the guy you think got couped) won. You are citing Event A from 2004 to prove claims about Event B in 2014. These are not the same thing. At this point I genuinely need to ask how long you've actually been following Ukraine because the evidence says "since the copypasta folder was shared."
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>>534025812
inhalation in progress
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Total russian death.
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>>534024383
>>534024756
>>534024946

"He was never impeached, he was forced out"
Half-right for the wrong reasons. The formal impeachment process wasn't used because it was designed for treason cases, not for a president who secretly fled the country. And that's the key part you keep skipping: Yanukovych began preparing to leave on February 19 - before the worst violence and before he signed the agreement with the opposition. He secretly fled Kyiv on the night of February 21 without informing parliament. Dumped documents in a lake. His interior minister fled to Belarus. His parliament speaker resigned. Parliament then unanimously voted 328–0 to remove him, with members of all parties including his own voting in favor. They passed a resolution establishing that Yanukovych had removed himself from fulfilling his constitutional duties - because he literally wasn't there. Nobody dragged him out. He ran.

"His party left because the US declared him an enemy"
When? Show me the declaration. What actually happened: his security forces killed over 100 protesters, including snipers shooting unarmed people. Inna Bogoslovska, a Party of Regions member, was the first to leave specifically because authorities began ordering protesters killed. His own party publicly condemned "the criminal orders that led to human victims, an empty state treasury, huge debts." The party went from 210 seats to 80. His own presidential candidate in the snap election got 3%.
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>>534025938
Holy fuck, Jewtin is associated with Epstein.
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A very good day to all my /uhg/ comrades and a friendly reminder that the ukraine is a fake made up country AND rightful USSR clay. How have you been doing comrades? I woke up today with a sudden urge to check the pulse of this godforsaken, dead, general.
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>>534024383 (Cross-thread)
>>534024756 (Cross-thread)
>>534024946 (Cross-thread)

"Zelensky wanted to put NATO nukes in Ukraine"
No. What Zelensky said at Munich on February 19, 2022 - five days before the invasion, with 150,000 Russian troops on his border - was that Ukraine gave up the world's third-largest nuclear arsenal for security guarantees, received neither security nor its territory, and was initiating consultations under the Budapest Memorandum. At no point during that speech or at any time after did Zelensky signal that Ukraine intended to acquire or develop nuclear weapons. The "Zelensky wanted nukes" framing is a deliberate Russian MFA distortion of a diplomatic complaint about broken guarantees, repackaged as a weapons acquisition threat. You're quoting Zakharova's spin as if it's the transcript. The transcript is publicly available.

"The West violated the Budapest Memorandum"
The Budapest Memorandum commits signatories to respect Ukraine's borders and refrain from the use of force. Which signatory annexed Crimea? Which one invaded with 190,000 troops? Which one currently occupies 20% of Ukraine? Calling NGO funding a "violation of sovereignty" while Russia literally annexed territory is weapons-grade cope.

The Cuba thing
You said Ukraine is like Cuba during the missile crisis. I pointed out the US didn't invade Cuba. You replied "Bay of Pigs failed, they would have if they could." So your position is now: the thing the US failed to do and was wrong for attempting... justifies Russia doing it successfully? You've argued yourself into "imperialism is fine when Russia does it" and didn't even notice. kek

Scorecard:

- Posts made: 6
- Questions from me answered: 0 of 6
- Presidents correctly identified: 0
- Correct decade for own sources: 0
- Counter-sources provided: 1 (wrong event, wrong decade)
- Times said "lies" without alternative evidence: 4 and counting

Six questions remain unanswered. Class is still in session. Take your time.
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>>534025581
Them finally taking a position by mechbois only checks out, alas they have the means given the recent advancements on their UGVs. The 22k line is some pretty grey line, 22k assisted missions bullshit at best. Of course it's a bit of an upsell as exporting their drone knowledge is their biggest income of influence now.
Don't get illusioned by either side. Very little has reached autonomy yet, it's still a lot of glass fibre shitting.
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>>534026010
Fuck. That's damning evidence.
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>>534025943
Nigger you don't even know what the Bay of Pigs or Cuban Missile Crisis was.
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>>534026029
>22k assisted missions bullshit at best
Doubt. There's a LOT of drone support bots delivering food and ammo. 22k seems small.
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>>534026027
That's VERY interesting comrade but have you consneedered that
>pic related
Lmaoooooooooooooooooooo
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>>534026027
>I pointed out the US didn't invade Cuba.
Except they did
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>>534025634
computer science in eastern bloc was a thing but the entire system being built around corruption, nepotism, backroom deals and saving face culture crushed any talents and personal initiative. My dad used to know a guy that was a very talented computer engineer in the 1970s, he designed a portable computer that was on par with western ones and superior to existing eastern bloc designs. However, those who were responsible for the existing, inferior designs had good connections in the communist party and so he was not only banned from continuing his project but also delegated to work at a pig farm lmao
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>>534026061
>the guy who called Yanukovych "Yuschenko" is lecturing me on knowing history

kek. anon you confused two different presidents, cited an article from the wrong decade about the wrong revolution, and haven't answered a single one of six direct questions. but sure, I'm the one who needs to read a book.

still waiting on those answers btw. new thread won't save you, the homework follows.
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how did they all fit in [0] tanks?
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>>534026077
There's no way they pulled off 22k unmanned missions.
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Why do my /uhg/ comrades have such a short term memory?
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>>534026107
>Bay of Pigs was the US invading Cuba

the Bay of Pigs was a CIA-backed operation using 1,400 Cuban exiles that failed in three days specifically because Kennedy refused to commit US military forces. that's literally the entire point of the Bay of Pigs - it's famous FOR failing, BECAUSE the US didn't invade. this is taught in every high school history class on earth.

the Cuban Missile Crisis was a separate event a year and a half later. these are two different things anon. you're doing the Ukraine thing again where you mix up two different events and then tell me I'm the one who doesn't know history.

presidents confused: 2 (Yushchenko/Yanukovych)
revolutions confused: 2 (Orange/Euromaidan)
Cuban crises confused: 2 (Bay of Pigs/Missile Crisis)

the pattern is remarkable. questions still unanswered btw.
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>>534026160
Victoria Nuland and her damn cookies!!!
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>>534025952
this image of the green tanks is triggering me
please remove them
regards,
anon
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>mfw when faggotxio
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>>534026231
okay
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>>534026246
tank you
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Oh the balding serb trannychaser got activated - What embarrassment did POCCNR suffer today
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>>534026150
they said they only did one fully unmanned mission to be clear
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>>534026124
Yeah I fucked that post up. I am aware of what I posted though, the article from the 00's is about Yuschenko yes, and details an entire US operation to meddle in Ukraine's elections even then, on top of other countries. Here those things are illegal because it's a "threat to our democracy" because we believe in democracy apparently. You still don't know what you're talking about and basically resort to making shit up though.
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>>534026294
Tuapussy (again). Millions will SNIFF
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>>534026316
You fuck everything up. I ask for a proof that Zelensky is associated with Epstein and you provide me proof that Putin is. You confuse years, people, events, geographical locations, to lie for people that would gladly kill everyone of the flag you are posting under. You should be the Oxford's Dictionary definition of failure.
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>>534026209
I know right comrade? How much of a fake made up country does one need to be to be swayed by a fucking bag of cookies?
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>>534026305
I do think they make it sound otherwise. Nevermind 22k "times" lives saved.
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>>534026150
Easily. Look at the size of the front and think how many positions get serviced daily.
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mein monke... ze river is on fire...
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>>534026173
So the US did take military action against Cuba, seeking to overthrow it, even before the Cuban Missile Crisis (which the US caused BTW)? Interesting.

It's basically largely the US's fault Castro even got in to begin with because the US backed the Batistas who were basically gangsters. Similar story to Venezuela and Iran, both revolutions occurred in response to US puppet regimes raping the country and stealing their resources.
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>>534025398

When will the pigkraine stop losing?
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>>534026411
what if those cookies were really good though?
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>>534026377
Really?
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>>534026454
Why do you always say the opposite of what somebody proves to you?
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>>534026572
>The US invaded Cuba and attempted to land a large group of guerilla forces to attack and overthrow the country
>This is not an invasion
Ok.
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>>534026521
This is not Epstein saying it though. It is a random guy talking about it. How hard are you scrolling through the Epstein emails to find one email out of over 1000 of them mentioning Putin, that proofs your delusional reality? Or are you just counting on me being stupid and not calling you our for blatantly lying? You are still a failure. Try again with another email out of the over 1000 emails where Epstein mentions Putin.
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>>534026642
>The US invaded Cuba
It didn't.
>This is not an invasion
It isn't. You are a failure.
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>>534026647
>It's just a random guy emailing Epstein
>He probably just sent it to the wrong email address
Kek
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https://files.catbox.moe/k3r3l0.mp4
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You are welcome :3
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>>534026447
>Easily

>>534026642
Hey Ivan, you're doing it again. If a large group of guerrilla forces to overthrow a country is an invasion and bad, why aren't you telling Russia to fuck off?
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>>534026707
How can you always turn everything on its head? That is not what I have said at all you dishonestly strawmanning coward, hiding behind a VPN.
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>>534026316
lmao he's doing damage control now. "yeah I fucked that post up BUT the article still proves—"

anon, let's do some reading comprehension on your own source. That Guardian article describes US organizations training election monitors and supporting civil society groups. You know WHY those election monitors were needed?

Because the 2004 election that triggered the Orange Revolution was massively fraudulent. The fraud was so blatant that Ukraine's own Supreme Court - not the CIA, not NATO, not Victoria Nuland - threw out the results and ordered a revote. Ballot stuffing, carousel voting, busloads of repeat voters, poison administered to one candidate. The fraud was documented by international observers from dozens of countries.

So your "proof of US election meddling" is an article about Americans helping train people to detect fraud in an election that was proven fraudulent by Ukraine's own court system. That's called MO-NI-TO-RING.

And even if we grant your most paranoid reading of that article - it's about 2004. You were using it to prove claims about 2014. Different event. You've now admitted this. So your evidence for "the US ran Euromaidan" is back to: one phone call where Nuland expressed a preference that didn't even come true.

>you still don't know what you're talking about
>making shit up

anon in this conversation you have confused two presidents, two revolutions, two Cuban crises, and cited an article about the wrong decade. I have provided sourced, cited claims for every single point. You have answered zero of six direct questions. One of us is making things up and it is not the one with receipts.

Questions remain open. Take your time.
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>>534026243
Good morning to you comrade gipsybro, your welcome is always heartwarming.
>>534026509
Pls gib recipe of regime change cookies comrade lmaooooooooo!
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>>534026810
>Jewpedia
Good one, jew.
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>>534026864
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>>534025398
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Uh oh, prepare for commie facebook post spam. The czech gypsy got activated by his discord troon friends.
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Can confirm :3
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>>534026762
>Easily
Yes, they've been in service for 2 years now and by the end of 2025 they had 15,000 in service.
22k operations is nothing.
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>>534026956
it's the fumes
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>>534026956
Time to go make a cup of tea to save the brain rot and eye rape.
I prefer scat tbqhwy.
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>commiefaggot deployed
Yep, lotsa SNIFFING happening today.
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>>534027021
I just filter the gypsy the second I see him
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>>534026857
>Matured into a template for winning other people's elections
>Lists where it was tried, worked and failed
The article outright says the US stole the election. Let me ask you one question, would it be legal for Russia to do that in America?
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>>534026864
The same one that writes glowing article about Ukraine?
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When will the pidors stop sniffing?
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Anyways, have the full Tuapse info:

>Ukraine struck an oil refinery in Tuapse with drones 4 days after extinguishing a fire from a previous attack

>On the night of April 28, Ukrainian drones attacked an oil refinery in Tuapse. A fire occurred on the territory of the enterprise; no injuries were reported at the operational headquarters of the Krasnodar region. Previously, the Rosneft-owned oil refinery, which is one of the top 10 largest in the country and the only one on the Russian Black Sea coast, was hit on April 16 and 20.

>During the first attack, a fire broke out, and the second, in addition to the fire, resulted in the death of one person. The infrastructure of the oil terminal in the port of Tuapse, with which the refinery forms a single production complex, was also damaged. In particular, a petroleum products tank farm was on fire. Because of this, the plant, according to Reuters sources, stopped oil refining. The fire from the impact on April 20 was completely extinguished only four days later. As a result of damage to the tanks, an oil spill occurred, which entered the sea. Within a week, the oil slick stretched 77 km along the coast.

>At the same time, the smog from the fire at the oil terminal in Tuapse covered almost the entire Black Sea coast of Russia, including Sochi and Anapa, and also reached Stavropol and Armavir. In a number of areas there was “oil rain”, and the concentrations of benzene, xylene and soot in the air were twice the norm, Rospotrebnadzor reported. Dead dolphins were found on a beach in Sochi. The death of fish and birds was also recorded.

>Environmentalists declared the “largest environmental disaster” on the entire Black Sea coast of Russia, pointed to the risk of acid rain and noted that the negative impact on the local environment will persist for several years. Despite this, president Vladimir Putin has still not commented on the emergency situation in Tuapse. The environmental disaster was also ignored on state channels.
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>>534027044
I like tea. It's fine.
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When will the gloves come off, ziggerashka brand internet tough guy?
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>>534027077
Yes, exactly. Finally you make sense for once. See, I am not a shill like you, so I am not restricted by a direction. I understand nuance. You technically do to, but you are not allowed by your superior to make it visible. You are restricted, I am not. I enjoy freedom of opinion, you have to be careful not to say something against the script. That's why you are an eternal loser.
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>>534026454
>So the US did take military action against Cuba
ok let's be really, really pedantic about this because apparently we need to

Bay of Pigs (April 1961): A CIA-organized operation using 1,400 Cuban exiles - Brigade 2506 - trained in Guatemala, launched from Nicaragua, flying repainted B-26 bombers with false Cuban markings. This was a covert proxy operation, not a US military invasion. Kennedy specifically cancelled direct US air support, which is why it failed. The exiles were outnumbered, outgunned, received zero popular support, and the operation collapsed in three days. It is universally regarded as one of the worst US foreign policy disasters of the 20th century.

Cuban Missile Crisis (October 1962): Happened a year and a half LATER. Separate event. US imposed a naval quarantine. No invasion.

These are not the same event. You originally cited "the Cuban Missile Crisis" to justify Russia's invasion. I pointed out the US didn't invade Cuba during the CMC. You then pivoted to Bay of Pigs. But Bay of Pigs:
- was not the Cuban Missile Crisis
- was not a US military invasion, it was a CIA proxy op using exiles
- failed
- is considered a catastrophic moral and strategic failure
- is taught in schools as an example of what NOT to do

So your own analogy now runs: the US once tried a covert proxy regime change in Cuba, it failed horribly, it's universally condemned as wrong, and it's a completely separate event from the one you originally cited. And this justifies... Russia launching a full-scale 190,000-troop mechanized invasion of its neighbor? That's not the gotcha you think it is. You've compared Russia's invasion to an operation that everyone - including Americans - agrees was wrong and stupid. kek
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>>534026454
>which the US caused BTW

Khrushchev's decision to place missiles in Cuba was influenced by the Bay of Pigs failure and US Jupiter missiles in Turkey, yes. The resolution involved the US quietly removing those Jupiters. Mutual de-escalation. Nobody invaded anybody. That's the point.

>US backed the Batistas who were basically gangsters
Yes! Batista was a US-backed dictator. This is taught in every history class. The US doing bad things in Latin America during the Cold War is well-documented and widely condemned. You know what it doesn't do? Justify Russia invading Ukraine in 2022. "America did bad things in 1961" is not a license for Russia to do bad things sixty years later. This is toddler logic - "but HE hit someone first!" doesn't work past age five.

Questions unanswered: still 6. Presidents confused: still 1. Revolutions confused: still 1. Cuban crises confused: still 2. We continue.
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>>534027055
>Let me ask you one question, would it be legal for Russia to do that in America?
Yes.
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>>534027126
>Environmentalists declared the “largest environmental disaster” on the entire Black Sea coast of Russia, pointed to the risk of acid rain and noted that the negative impact on the local environment will persist for several years.

They can stop this any day, any hour. The Ukrainian government agrees to a freeze on hostilities at current positions. This, or the de-ecologizing and de-Slavicization of Russia will continue. The enemy of Russians is not in the West
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>>534027243
i fully support your intent and your posts but arguing that a CIA proxy op is not a US invasion is wrong. the CIA is part of the USA.

it was dumb and it failed and kennedy denied air support etc. etc. but it WAS an invasion and the USA government organised it. it was a US invasion.
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Come on, Ivan. No slacking. Get the fuck up. To Berlin. You have to go kill euronazis.
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Are vatniks still using the "what about Cuba" whataboutism in year of Our Lord 2026?
It was played out 10 years ago.
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>>534027055
lmaooooo ok anon let's do a close reading of YOUR OWN SOURCE since you clearly skimmed it for keywords and stopped there

the exact quote from your Guardian article:
the campaign is described as "an exercise in western branding and mass marketing that has been used to try to salvage rigged elections and topple unsavoury regimes"

read that again. slowly.

"salvage rigged elections"

your article is not saying the US rigged the elections. it's saying the elections WERE ALREADY RIGGED - by the incumbents - and the US-backed campaign helped DETECT AND EXPOSE that fraud. "salvage" means to rescue something. you salvage a rigged election by catching the rigging and forcing a fair revote. which is exactly what happened: Yanukovych's side stuffed ballots, international observers documented the fraud, Ukraine's own Supreme Court threw out the results, a revote was held, and Yushchenko won.

"winning other people's elections" in the context of the article means helping the legitimate winner actually get their victory recognized despite fraud by the ruling regime. not "installing a puppet." the article literally tells you what the "template" was: training election monitors, funding exit polls, supporting civil society groups to detect ballot stuffing.

you read "winning other people's elections," assumed it meant stealing them, and never read the next three words that explain it meant salvaging them FROM being stolen. by the guy you can't even name correctly.

>would it be legal for Russia to do that in America
Russia DID interfere in American elections. 2016. It was a massive national scandal. Americans were furious about it. And crucially - nobody used it to justify invading Russia. Because "election meddling" and "190,000-troop mechanized invasion" are not equivalent responses to anything. You keep trying to establish that the US did bad things (sometimes true) and then using it as a blank check for Russian military invasion (does not follow).
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I can hear you crying :3
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>>534027055
"stole the election"? yanukovych was member of Party of Regions and it was Party of Regions that voted yanukovych out as he failed to show up for his duties. so usa controlled the Party you claim was couped? you cant keep your story consistent because you dont know enough about topic. what happened in 2013 by the way?
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>>534027385
fair point cunt and you're right - it IS called "the Bay of Pigs Invasion" historiographically and the CIA IS the US government. Kennedy publicly accepted responsibility. no argument there.
the reason I'm being pedantic about the distinction isn't to absolve the US of responsibility - it's because of what the shill is trying to do with the comparison. he's using Cuba to justify Russia's full-scale mechanized invasion of Ukraine. so the difference in kind matters.

calling both "an invasion" is technically defensible but flattens the scale difference the shill needs flattened to make his whataboutism work. he needs "the US did it too" to function as a moral license, and it only works if you ignore that one was a botched three-day proxy op everyone agrees was wrong, and the other is the largest land war in Europe since 1945.
that's the nuance I'm defending. appreciate the good faith push though.
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>>534027543
its a bad faith argument because its inconsistent
>hah usa attacked cuba which we dont support
>but thats why we support russia attacking countries
???
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>>534027573
...yes
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>>534027543
that's entirely fair and correct, and like i said i fully support everything you are saying and doing, but i just thought i'd make that small point because those who gaze into the abyss end up arguing with pigeons, or something. the point is that one knife sharpens the other.

all the best with your qualityposting and be assured that people do read them even if we don't always post.
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>>534027055
I fucking love how everytime you argue about something, you prove right the exact opposite, because you are just so fucking dumb lmao
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>>534027348
>The Ukrainian government agrees to a freeze on hostilities at current positions
Why would they do that? It's time for the killing, not negotiating.
Russia is defenceless.
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>>534027543
good boy!
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Lol even the schizo catfag crawled out.
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>>534027661
hello
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Just stop oli !
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>>534027687
category error, typical of a reality-hating commie
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>>534027687
You forgot your capslock today.
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>>534027687
there is no way you seriously believe that pic LMAO
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>>534025398
Pokrovsk status? Kursk status?
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>>534027718
>says nazi Germany
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What air defense doin ?
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>>534027722
not in the mood
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>>534025398
>>Russian economy specialist Alexandra Prokopenko
Any relation of the AZOG hypocrite who infamously cucked out like a bitch during the siege of Mariupol? kek
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>>534027728
its called REALITY
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>>534027687
It makes slightly more sense if you change it to the EU Still, not a lot. Fucking HATO nazis lmao
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>>534027782
>nazi Ukraine
Based. Commies aren't people anyway.
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>>534027120
What does that even mean?
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>>534027687
Wait till you see the 2036 version.
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>>534027807
EU-NATO are the same thing, white supremacist-colonialists
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>>534027844
It's already out of date and missing the successful annexation of Sweden and Finland
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>>534027844
We will crush you again :3 and again and again and again
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>>534027857
>EU-NATO are the same thing, white supremacist-colonialists
Based EU-NATO
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>>534027913
This is just a bad neoliberal flashback. The west is already economically dead. We look at its death pangs, twitches. ITS ALREADY IRRELEVANT
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>>534027959
He's trying to explain how based nazis are, like we don't know that already.
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>>534027959
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bomb solovjovs studio
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>>534027993
>The west is already economically dead
You're hibraik kvetching would be necessary if that was true
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Um, bros?....

>“We will control Moscow.” Former Deputy Prime Minister of Chechnya said that Muslims are ready to take power in Russia

>Muslims living in Moscow are ready to take power into their own hands at the right moment, to establish the power that will be “convenient” for them, so that Russia no longer causes harm to surrounding countries and peoples. This was stated in an interview with the “Different People” program by Ruslan Kutaev, president of the Assembly of the Peoples of the Caucasus, who in 1996-97 served as Deputy Prime Minister of Chechnya, and subsequently was an assistant on special assignments to the President of Chechnya, Aslan Maskhadov.

>According to Kutaev, which at the beginning of 2026 became part of the Platform of Russian Democratic Forces at the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe (PACE), millions of Muslims live in Moscow, who spend time in rocking chairs, train and can go to the barricades at the right moment.

>“We won’t just return, we will first work in Moscow. We will establish power there, which is convenient for us. Why? Because up to 15 million people live in Moscow today. 5 million visitors, 10 million people who have a residence permit. Of these, 3.5–4 million people profess Islam, practice Islam, Caucasians and representatives of Asian peoples. The Assembly of Peoples of the Caucasus has built amazing relationships with all the leaders of Asian peoples. And at hour X, when it is necessary to act in Russia, we will act,” Kutaev said.

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>>534028043

>According to him, behind those who count on “American and British money” to rule Russia, there are only “students who will walk with flashlights.” “What’s behindus? People who, if necessary, will tear off your head and blow off your head, and they will go to the barricades and build a barricade,” Kutaev said.

>“We will control Moscow so that Moscow does not become restless and does not cause damage to surrounding peoples and surrounding states. It just won’t work out this way or any other way,” he added.

>According to Kutaev, what is happening in Russia is not so much the will of Putin, as much as a reflection of the “religion” of Russian society, which professes “Russian nationalism, called the ideology of the Russian world.” “And it was with this ideology that they came to Ukraine. With this ideology they kill Ukrainians and occupy Ukraine,” Kutaev said.

>At the same time, in Russia, according to him, “chaos” is happening.“No one there simply trusts the authorities. Everyone there understands that Russia has already ceased to exist, because from different regions, I’m not talking about the Caucasus, from Russian regions, every day my assistants receive messages from people about what is happening there on the counters, what they are talking about on the buses, what is happening there on the streets. Nobody trusts Putin. Everyone knows that Putin lost. They're just waiting when will this be announced,” Kutaev said.

>At the same time, when the division of power begins, it will be necessary “to come to an agreement with us, with the peoples that we united in Moscow,” he emphasized: “Because we will be the main force that determines how events will take place in Moscow. We're just waiting. We are simply waiting for this condition to occur. And there are a lot of us, a lot of us.”

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>>534028005
>how based nazis are
nazis were retarded because they tried treating commies as human
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>>534028039
The fascist animal can only look backwards while it is feeling the economic depseration of its collapsing surroundings :3
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>>534027243
The other thing is that the Bay of Pigs happened before Soviet missiles were put in Cuba. The USSR did this in response to the US doing the same thing first, but in Turkey however the whole thing about Cuba being invaded might have made Castro more open to having them.

The other obvious point you gloss over is that the US could not invade Cuba during the crrisis because Soviet nukes and personnel were active on the Island. Any attempt to seize them or Soviet nukes (from a sovereign country no less, regardless if you like Castro or not) would easily have caused a nuclear war, thus the US opted for a blockade and did not attack via the air either. Why don't you mention that? Could it be that despite the long winded posts you don't know anything?
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>>534027896
Who's we?
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>>534028051
MEOW
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>>534028076
>The fascist animal can only look backwards
nah im looking forward to the inevitable prolapse of pidorasiq for the second time in my life
Also looking forward to my kids living a life free of judeo bolsheviks and their transsexual brown allies
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>>534027837
you wouldn't understand, it's a rossian thing
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>>534028149
In your fascist animal dreams...
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>>534028056
man just imagine what a massive shitshow the 2nd russian civil war will be when it finally kicks off
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>>534028149
>oh pls
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>>534028190
No in my fascist future
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>>534028149
too bad alot of that scum is gonna infest Varna
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>>534028208
>Joseph Stalin
>curly haired long nosed midget
>not a jew
>hated whites and christians
kek
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>defending jeets and hating /uhg/
kekaroo!
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>>534027438
Yes, unsavoury according to whoever in the US said, so the US government conducted mass private-public organized campaigns incluiding the use of NGO's to get the results it wanted in other countries. That's correct, yes.

>"winning other people's elections," assumed it meant stealing them
Fucking lmao. It was rigged according to the people illegally interfering in other nations elections (and also going around the world bombing people and toppling governments for 30 years). But we can't give our own people voter ID also.
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>>534025498
>a smiling Budanov
does things to my pp
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>>534028257
>implying they already haven't
obviously it can get worse
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>>534028300
So the crymea referendum was rigged?
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>>534028276
YOU WILL BE CRYING AGAIN, NAZI :3
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>>534028190
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>>534028391
CRIMEA IS RUSSIA
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>>534028395
>WEAKMINDED FASCIST BULLSHIT LMAO
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>>534028300
Come on buddy, you aren't american. You are just a failure.
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>>534027438
Are you some professor working with browns?! Your patience is amazing. I'm impressed. Regarding your convo with your "global south" student under a usa flag, my mind goes to a famous song's lyrics:
You need cooling
Baby I'm not fooling
I'm gonna send ya
Back to schooling
A-way down inside
A-honey you need it
I'm gonna give you my love
I'm gonna give you my love
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>>534028391
According to NATO, yes. Are you saying they would rather be part of Ukraine?
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>>534028393
>YOU WILL BE CRYING AGAIN, NAZI :3
i already im crying from laughter no need to state the obvious
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>>534028475
>the obvious
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>>534028190
The USSR literally propped up the Nazi regime in Germany with resources and trained the Wehrmacht in russia.
Picrel is of the combined soviet/nazi parade in Brest in 1939, after the two murdering dictators split Poland.
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>>534028469
>According to NATO
This is the map of countries that recogniye Crimea as Russian. As you can see, it is just bunch of commie shitholes. So no, it isn't just NATO, once again, you are failure.
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>>534028469
According to Russia, you meant to say.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Igor_Girkin
>Are you saying they would rather be part of Ukraine?
Do you want to be part of Russia?
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low quality damage control shills
not enough sniffing for them
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>>534028393
>YOU WILL BE CRYING AGAIN
from laughter? We are already doing that every day here.
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>>534028555
ANZ QUESTIONS? :3
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>>534028430
Picrel: German tank commanding officers being trained at the Kazan tank school, the same ones that attacked Chekoslovakia, Poland AND russia in blitzkrieg in 1941. Gudarian is among them.
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>>534028555
>Crimea is Ukrainian
So why is there a centuries old Russian navy base there? That existed before Ukraine did.
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>>534028574
>Do you want to be part of Russia?
Maybe he enjoys shitting outside and sniffing gasoline. Who are we to judge.
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>>534028579
This is the end of western hegemony :3
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>>534028637
So Syria is Russian?
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>>534027641
Today, yes. They should have made peace at the beginning of 2025. Now, a peaceful solution with the Russian regime is not an option. Only the complete dismantling of the Russian Federation's governance. Dialogue will be established with the new government. The current Russian government is too mired in Islamism and bloodthirstiness.
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>>534028636
>COPE
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>>534028653
That's nice, but how does it relate to communism being a failure?
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>vpnzister axiom: the longer xhe spews metodichka, the more likely xhe will out zherself
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>>534028637
So why is there a centuries old German city there? That existed before Russia did.
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>>534028088
anon you're doing it again where you make MY point better than I could

let me spell out what you just argued:

>the US couldn't invade Cuba during the missile crisis because Soviet nukes were there
>nuclear deterrence is the only reason Cuba wasn't invaded
>without nukes, the US would have invaded

so your position is: a country without nuclear weapons is vulnerable to invasion by a larger neighbor, and only nuclear deterrence prevents it.

you know who else made that exact argument? Zelensky. at Munich. five days before the invasion. the speech you claimed was "threatening to put NATO nukes in Ukraine." he said: we gave up the world's third-largest nuclear arsenal for security guarantees, we got neither security nor our territory, and maybe that deal needs revisiting.

you just independently arrived at the same conclusion as the guy you've been calling a dictator for three hours. Ukraine gave up its nukes, lost its deterrent, and got invaded - exactly the scenario you're describing with Cuba. you have accidentally become the single best argument for why the Budapest Memorandum mattered and why Russia violating it was catastrophic.

>why didn't you mention that

I did. I literally said the resolution involved mutual de-escalation and nobody invaded anybody. you're not reading my posts before responding to them, which at this point is a pattern.

>could it be that you don't know anything

anon I have not confused a single president, revolution, decade, or Cuban crisis in this entire conversation. your record on those is 0 for 6. but yes, I'm the one who doesn't know anything kek

questions still unanswered btw.
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>>534028733
Are you implying all these americans from spewing the same talking points, posting the same metodichkas, spamming the same shill folder, for the last 4 years, might not actually be from Idaho-oblast? Unbelievable.
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>>534028300
>"it was rigged according to the people illegally interfering"

anon it was ruled fraudulent by Ukraine's own Supreme Court. Not by the CIA. Not by NGOs. Not by Victoria Nuland. By Ukrainian judges, in a Ukrainian courtroom, under Ukrainian law. The fraud was also documented by election observers from the OSCE, the EU, and dozens of countries including non-Western ones.

You're now at the position where Ukraine's own judiciary is a CIA front. At what point does every single Ukrainian institution - their courts, their parliament, their opposition parties, their voters - stop being made up of Ukrainians with agency and start being real people? Because in your version of events, 45 million people have zero autonomy and everything that happens in their country is actually decided by whoever Victoria Nuland had lunch with.

Also lmao at the voter ID tangent. You just swerved from the 2004 Ukrainian Supreme Court into American domestic culture war talking points. The NPC dialogue tree is branching randomly at this point.

Questions answered: still 0 of 6. We are approaching hour 4. At this rate he'll discover which president was actually removed by Christmas.
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https://x.com/CaribbeanRythms/status/2048863922845778038

webm this pls
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>>534028676
Was Syria part of Russia? Or were they invited there to defend from ISIS?

Crrimea was gifted to Ukraine in the 50's by Kruschev, who transferred it from the Russian SSR as an autonomous province in Ukraine. Kruschev was ethnically Russian so of course he was evil and hated Ukraine and Ukrainians despite doing that and also being an avid Ukrainophile who married a Ukrainian woman.
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>>534028637
>centuries old Russian navy base
how many "centuries" old is it?
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>>534028855
>Was Syria part of Russia? Or were they invited there to defend from ISIS?
Bashar al Assad sold his country to Russia, in order to keep his throne. ISIS wasn't even the main force against him at first.
What Russia got in exchange is control over the territory where a gas pipeline from Saudi, Kuwait and Qatar would pass to get to Turkey and European markets. This was a regime security war for Assad, a gas war for Russia, a holy war for half the arab rebels, a republican war for the other half, and a nationalist war for the Kurds, and a proxy war for USA and Israel. Don't oversimplify it.

And of course, a sidelined loser was Europe and Arabs, who couldn't get the Arab gas pilpeline to European markets, because Russia and USA were dicking around.
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>>534028925
Potemkin established the port there, which would make it 2 centuries old. Not sure when you'd qualify it as a major naval base, probably in USSR times.
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can someone explain point 10 - does it mean they will stop pension payouts to russian retirees that have accounts in foreign banks and live not in russia. but they receive payments to russian bank accounts? or how to understand this?
for context kremlin "forgets" or "bank errors" to pay their pensioners here from time to time so they go to media to kvetch about having no money to eat and their next sentence is praising russia and putin. fuck them they can eat expired cans from food bank or each other. russian diaspora - not even once
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>muh historic clay
Ok, stop squatting on pozzian clay, "amerikanets".
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>>534028995
>diaspora
Remind me again, who built your cities?
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>>534029016
That would require Puccia to return that 7.2 million in gold first. :D

Just 120-150 million USD now.
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>>534029016
Oh shid, do we have to give londinium back to Rome?
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>>534029048
Germans, Swedes, Danes, Finns?
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>>534028694
The russians literally trained the same pilots in their flight schools in the USSR that would later bomb russia in 1941.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fokker_D.XIII
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>>534029075
Ummmm sweaty, of course, it's older than your country so duh!
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>The first names of Russian servicemen from the African Corps killed during renewed rebel offensives in Mali are beginning to emerge.
>Volodya Shumakov, who spent three years invading Ukraine, was transferred to the African Corps in Mali ten months ago and was killed there on April 25

Justice is served
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>>534028855
Anon, stop moving the goalposts. Ukraine invited Russians to the Crimean military base as well. I don't give a fuck about your shitty deluded history lessons, when Russians literally agreed to it. Russia doesn't get to break agreements just because they want to. You are jewish. And a failure.
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>>534029119
Uh sweaty, why don't you give Crimea back to the Greeks?
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>>534029119
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Great_Bulgaria
gib clay
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>>534029048
estonians. remind me again do your parents know you are a faggot
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>>534028775
>Be US
>Violate all NATO non expansion agreements
>Steal and interfere in Ukrainian elections in the 00's
>Directly overthrow Ukraine in 2014
So your argument is that Ukraine need nukes to defend itself from... NATO. The guy you're quoting is the same guy (Zelensky) who did not adhere to the Minsk agreement either.
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>>534029333
>Violate all NATO non expansion agreements
Name one document about your made up NATO non expansion agreements. Want me to name the agreements Russia broke? Chechnya, Georgia, Ukraine 4 times. You are a failure.
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>>534029333
>who did not adhere to the Minsk agreement either
This will once again fall on deaf ears, because Russians were so retarded that they bragged about breaking both Minsk agreements.
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>>534028775
>I did. I literally said the resolution involved mutual de-escalation and nobody invaded anybody
But they would have invaded if they could (they did just a year before).

>mutual deescalation
That's a nice way of saying the US was the aggressor.

>you're not reading my posts before responding to them
They're solid bullshit. You don't know what you're talking about basically play semantic tricks, which is how Jews argue.
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>>534029333
>agreements
may we see them petukh?
>Steal and interfere in Ukrainian elections in the 00's
projecting hard there buddy
>overthrow
Projecting again. Now quickly tell us about poor protestors burning alive in Odessa.

We are not buckbroken election tourists where you can peddle your lies unopossed. cum/chug/ is two doors down the hall.
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>>534029441
James Baker flying to Moscow to meet with Gorbachev directly. Do you not know this?
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>>534029589
If you don't name a single document in your next post, you hereby proclaim that you are a gay dishonest jew that lies on the internet for money.
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>>534026150
You overthink what a mission is.
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>>534029671
Do you know what I'm talking about though?
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>>534029589
So how about you show us those documents Vanyusha?
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>>534029701
You have just now proclaimed that you are a gay dishonest jew that lies on the internet for money. What a shame, I just wanted you to make some shit up.
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>>534029048
Remind me again, why shouldn't we send you back immediately?

>>534029691
Probably, alas picking up stray soldiers isn't one in my book.
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>>534029725
The entire record is available to the public.
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>>534029701
Can you elaborate again why you aren't living in beautiful Russia?
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>>534029799
>picking up stray soldiers isn't one in my book.
And you would be wrong, evacuating a soldier is a mission, evacuating a civilian is a mission, running a supply drop for the guys manning a position is also a mission. Your overall results consist of these small things.
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>>534029799
>picking up stray soldiers
That's one of their more important roles.
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>>534029852
And yet not a single agreement about that was made, this was just talks about how to deal with the future. Talks with USSR, which went tits up the next year.
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>>534029852
May we see that agreement in writing, zister?
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>>534029852
I don't want record of two people talking about things, I want a signed document, you gay dishonest jew that lies on the internet for money. I am obviously just dunking on you, because I know there isn't one. You know there isn't one either, but since you are a gay dishonest jew that lies on the internet for money, you have to try and squirm your way out of it. Watching it is incredibly funny to me.
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>>534029333
>"violate all NATO non expansion agreements"

which agreements lmao

anon, name the treaty. give me the document. give me the article number. I'll wait.

you can't, because Baker's "not one inch eastward" was not a binding agreement but a preliminary discussion point regarding the status of NATO forces in East Germany following reunification - not about future NATO membership of other countries.

and here's the really fun part. you know who confirmed this? Gorbachev himself, in an interview, stated: "The topic of 'NATO expansion' was not discussed at all, and it wasn't brought up in those years." He specified that Baker's statement was made in the context of making sure NATO military structures would not advance onto the territory of the former East Germany after reunification.

The final German reunification treaty, signed September 12, 1990, does not address NATO's future enlargement into other Eastern European countries. There is no treaty. There is no signed agreement. There is no document. There is a single phrase from a single meeting about East Germany that Russia retroactively expanded into a blanket promise about all of Eastern Europe. The guy who was on the other side of that conversation says it didn't happen.

>Zelensky didn't adhere to Minsk
Minsk II was signed in 2015 by Poroshenko, not Zelensky. Zelensky took office in 2019. And Russia's own proxies in Donetsk and Luhansk didn't implement their side either - there were supposed to be local elections under Ukrainian law, never happened. But sure, it's all Zelensky's fault, the guy who wasn't president when it was signed.

total confusion count across this conversation: two presidents, two revolutions, two Cuban crises, one article from the wrong decade, one treaty that doesn't exist, and one Minsk agreement attributed to the wrong president. questions answered: still zero. incredible run anon. truly historic.
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>>534029852
>We understand
>We believe
That is not an agreement.
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This is so funny
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>>534029876
Sorry, i meant as in drones picking up stray, zigger soldiers. Probably a bit of translation here, but by definition that task is just duty here. Yes, defending a held position is also "just" duty.
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Soon Odesa will be a Russian port while you keep making your cope posts stupid Ukropigs. You lost face it. YOUR WOMAN ARE GETTING FUCKED IN POLAND AND GERMANY WHY YOU DIE. Face it and accept being in the Russian Federation where you always belonged - come home white man
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>>534029542
ok sweetheart let's use small words

"they would have invaded if they could"
that is called a hypothetical. a hypothetical is when we imagine something that didn't happen. in school we learn that things that didn't happen are different from things that did happen. Russia invading Ukraine is a thing that did happen. the US invading Cuba during the missile crisis is a thing that didn't happen. can you see how those are different? I knew you could.

"mutual de-escalation means the US was the aggressor"
ok let's go through this very carefully. the USSR put nuclear missiles in Cuba. the US said "please remove those." the USSR said "ok but you remove yours from Turkey." the US said "ok." both sides removed missiles. both sides de-escalated. that's what "mutual" means. it means both. it does not mean one side was the aggressor. it means both sides took a step back. this is a concept we usually learn around age six.

"semantic tricks"
anon, knowing which president was removed in 2014 is not a semantic trick. knowing which decade your own source is from is not a semantic trick. knowing that the Bay of Pigs and the Cuban Missile Crisis are two different events is not a semantic trick. knowing that a treaty that doesn't exist doesn't exist is not a semantic trick. these are called "facts." facts are things that are true. they are different from things we feel, or things we wish were true, or things someone put in our copypasta,
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>>534029927
>The US Sec. State meeting directly in Moscow with the leader of the USSR, a summit observed by many diplomats and recorded, is meaningless

>>534029939
Right so you made another excellent point about why the US cannot be trusted, US diplomacy is worthless and the US will simply lie. That's great anon. Are you a woman by chance?
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>>534029852
Where the doccument ratified by the parlaments of all Nato members, petukh? Do you know what an agreement is you churka cumdupster?
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>diplomacy is when you pinky promise something to each other with nothing to solidify it
Zister, please stop outing yourself or at least drop the vpn, it's embarrassing.
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>>534030065
So Russia can be trusted? Then why aren't you moving and living there?
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>>534030065
>US diplomacy is worthless, the US will simply lie
so verbal assurances between leaders are sacred and binding when it's Baker talking to Gorbachev about East Germany, but the Budapest Memorandum - an actual signed document where Russia committed to respecting Ukraine's borders — is just a piece of paper Russia can ignore whenever it wants?

pick one sweetheart. either diplomatic commitments matter or they don't. you can't cry about a verbal comment from 1990 while shrugging off a signed memorandum from 1994. well, you can, but then we're not doing geopolitics anymore, we're doing "rules for thee but not for me," which is what you've been doing this whole time.

also lmao at "are you a woman." 5 hours in, zero questions answered, and we've arrived at "I'm losing so you must be a girl." truly the final form. kek
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>>534030065
>The US Sec. State meeting directly in Moscow with the leader of the USSR, a summit observed by many diplomats and recorded, is meaningless
Yes, talk is talk. Agreeing on something is agreeing on something. I wanted a document. You never provided it, because it doesn't exist. You are once again lying trying to squirm your way out of it. You will not. You are lying jew shill and a monumental failure. I honestly don't quite understand the strategy of coming here every single day and obviously lying like a fucking idiot, just to be proven wrong every single time. Your superiors either have an IQ of 5.7 or you are just lazy bastards that think that doing just about the minimal is enough, because at least it looks like you are doing something, while you are actually fighting against yourself. You are your worst enemy, just because how stupid you are. Here and on the front. If you weren't fucking retarded, you would have won. Because you are fucking retarded. You will lose. Failure.
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>>534030056
Anon, the USSR put missiles in Cuba only as a response to the US putting them in Turkey first. That was an act of aggression. Also the US still has nuclear bombs there.
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>>534030165
I don't know. Did Russia use the negotiation table to assassinate world leaders?
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>>534030166
You've done him.
>>534030065
He's done you.
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>>534030065
So where is that signed treaty between Nato states and the soviet union, petukh?
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>>534030196
yes sweetheart that's correct, well done! the Jupiter missiles in Turkey were part of the context. gold star.

now follow your own logic one more step: the US had missiles in Turkey. the USSR responded by putting missiles in Cuba. both sides talked. both sides removed missiles. nobody got invaded.

now apply your analogy: NATO exists near Russia. Russia feels threatened. so Russia... invaded Ukraine and killed hundreds of thousands of people.

you keep using the Cuban Missile Crisis as your model and it keeps proving that the correct response to feeling threatened by your neighbor's alliances is diplomacy and de-escalation, not a full-scale mechanized invasion. Kennedy figured this out in 1962. Putin didn't in 2022. your own analogy, your own argument, your own self-own. every single time. kek
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>>534030196
If the US is so terrible why aren't you moving and living in beautiful Russia, Ivan?
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What's the point of proving anything to the pidor if all he does is deflect and regurgitate metodichka?
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>>534030284
I like it. Their resistance makes my penis harder.
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>>534030227
If they didn't and are so peaceful, why aren't you moving and living there, Ivan?
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>>534030272
he is sacrificing his personal well being for the opportunity of arguing under an American flag on the ugandan anime image board
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>>534030251
>every single time
I feel like the pinacle of Russian propaganda is just looking like an idiot, making everybody hate Russians even more.
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>>534030227
They sure tried, pic related. Once again, you are a failure.
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>>534030284
where did you find that picture of me?
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>>534030166
russia did respect it. you broke neutrality, you subhuman nazi. neutrality was condition #1. now get fucked lying scum.
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>>534030284
It's fun to bait those retards. The all start as neutroool John BicMackoff from Detroit oblast, and then after a dozen posts the mask slips and the ystart talking about nooks, gay rape, and negroes getting lynched in America. The retards often don't even know what timezones are half the time.
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>>534030284
I like to make sure he knows he sucks at his job as much as his country does in general (only during totally non-gay military punishment of course).
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>>534029852
This is talking about Eastern Germany. Specifically, that USA bases will stay in western Germany after the German Unification.
They aren't talking about Ukraine or anything like that, as at the time these weren't considered at all in play.
Additionally, this is one man without power to make a decision, talking to a USSR leader, and not a binding treaty. Its literally a guy saying shit. Do you put the same value in Putin saying shit, for example saying that Ukraine is a sovereign state and Russia has no right to interefer in its politics, which he has said many times prior to 2014?
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Every russian and their puppet dead is an acceptable peace treaty
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>>534030251
there is no ukraine. your shithole nazi country was conditional on being neutral. when you stopped that, russia stopped caring about what you think about anything. i bet it felt good having those svoboda guys in the govt, you felt like you stuck it to russia, but now youll just be a stuck pig.
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lol VPN petukh is angry
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lol lol lol
no piss plan
just fire and ash
the only good hohol is a dead hohol
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>>534030432
>>534030515
>muh heckin' nazis
Go back to r*ddit you jewish commie scum
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>the sniffer has succumbed to withdrawal
Quick, another dose of tuapussy!
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>>534030589
Are you gonna cry?
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>>534030227
Yes actually.
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>>534030299
your daily reminder snownigger
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>>534030589
Fire and ash in Tuapse more like
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>>534030284
It is fun watching them move the goalposts constantly, making shit up, getting angry. Just look how suddenly a different US VPN retard came in crying about nazis. This is the fruit of our labor.
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>>534027782
>>534027798
>>534027857
WTF? I love Ukraine and NATO now
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>>534028158
I just don't understand local lingo, that's all.
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Total zigger humiliation.
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>>534030781
For some reason, nafotroons think that losing land = winning.
>but saar look at this video of a RuzZian getting shot, we are winning
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>>534030589
>>534027733
Hey, so I was wondering. What kind of American are you?
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>>534030781
I like how rudsia is so humble that they brag about taking 10% of 20 times smaller and weaker country xd
>its kike a bully that brag that after long and brutal fight he manage to take down glasses of 3 times smaller nerd xd
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>>534030781
>your daily reminder
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>>534030877
Tuapse is an ecological tragedy and the officials there advised everybody to stay home. However kids are still forced to go to school, while oil is raining on them and benzene concentrations were two to three times higher, xylene and soot in a number of areas of the city and residents are advised to wash their eyes, nose and throat.

Basically, billions must sniff the carcinogenic deadly air, because Putin is too scared to even mention it and local officials can only advise people to do something, but not actually stop the work or education.
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>>534025398
>>534025459
>>534030670
>>534030498
>>534030299
>>534030251

Yesterday, the trannies showed extreme cowardice and wouldnt acknowledge the statements made by dysgenic finnish president Stubb.

https://x.com/clashreport/status/2048547469881925699

Does Europe need ukraine more than ukraine needs Europe?

Stubb says the "tide has turned." He says this even though the official line has always been that "ukraine is winning."

Has the tide turned?
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>>534030937
VPN, diaspora patriot or race traitor?
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And here come the discord troons lmao
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2se
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/hdg/ is wholesome
/pol/ is ukropilled
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>>534031041
Hey piss skin, what was the space race to? Btw you're not a human
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>>534031062
>Does Europe need ukraine more than ukraine needs Europe?

thoughts?

Its pretty funny asking the thoughtless trannies their "thoughts" on things.
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>>534031062
>37 seethes by this ID
I only see one troon here atm
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>>534031041
Hi mearshie. Good to see you remembered your vpn this time.
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>notice meeeeeeeeee

:DDDDDDDD
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>>534031041
Hey mearshy, so how's your new gf's (male) bussy? Do you even live together? You seemed pretty syncronized yesterday.
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>>534031048
None, I just have a functioning brain, Tyrone.
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>>534031139
All I have done was prove a commie wrong. I am actually having fun.
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>>534031126
Russia is more trooned than Europe, lakhtofren
/chug/ has the reputation of a tranny meet&fap for a reason
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>>534031126
whatever narrative r3ddit nafo mothership is currently broadcasting lol
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>>534031168
>NO U
Asians are incapable of original thought
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>>534031139
>I only see one troon
That's just the reflection from you monitor xirster.
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>>534031161
I mean, yeah, you gave him crabs, but it doesn't mean you live together.
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>>534031216
why must russtranny project?
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>>534031208
>Pic

But they are burning all of Russia's shit. Where's the lie?
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>>534031209
What are you on about, muttboy?
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>>534031155
notice this snowtrannie
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>>534031208
>muh reddit
>muh nafo
You are seehthing too hard there Dragan, but i guess that's your hole life now, having to bow to your Ustasha masters every day.
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here in Krautchadland, a lack of masculinity is the by-far most common stereotype regarding russo panty poopers
that and cowardice
as you know, stereotypes from krauts are always factual
why would /pol/ not be TZD pilled? we anti male now or wut?
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Whoops. Seems like a strategic Finnish victory, Serbia hating loser. Anyways, why do you hate Serbia, when you are Serbian?
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and there's still the refinery left
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>>534031327
>loses direct Arctic Ocean access
>loses second largest city
>we did it reddit! We beat RuzZia!!!!
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results of anti air activity at tuapse, looks like air defence cuckold squirted off the target with all the excitement
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jaga jaga
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>>534031374
>Krautchadland
For a moment i read it as KrautchaNland. Boy remember how good that place was circa 2015? I miss shitposting with the ball-bros.
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>>534031416
turboredditor faction playing the reddit card
kekaroo
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>>534025752
Putin is jewish and anyone with a memory going back to before the covid hoax, including that jew and every jew in Israel where MSM gloats about the memory holing of Putin’s early life section know it.
>Yes of course he’s a Jew but that would be like The Protocols.
Israeli msm, capped and linked here.
Putin is as jewish as net&yahoo’s bagels.
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>>534031513
all that's good must come to an end
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>>534031040
>Tuapse citizens are forced to live like Jew York residents
Fate worse than death really.
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>>534031155
when these questions were asked yesterday, it resulted in extreme cowardice.

when these questions were directed at ukie-finn, it resulted in IMMEDIATE, unflinching, cowardice from you.

You didnt even reference chatgpt, you just ran. As always.
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baker?
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>>534031704
I shall bake, sit tight.
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>>534031690
drunk redditspacing homosexuals will save russia – as usual
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>>534031690
the fuck does this demented zigger even think the Pidoreich can do to stop us?
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>>534031656
What questions are those Mearshie?
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>>534025982
Wew!
Flippin’ & a flying. Cooking & a frying. Loosin’ & a dyin’.
Womp woomp wooomp WOOOOMP.
You on dah womp roof boy. You sittin’ on the ceiling without no ass. You have left your rectum down below and gone up half way to meets yo’ maker. Countdown from 100 and you’ll be going on the rest of the way. Sheeeite.
That’s a good one that. Classic Drunkentrooper final destination reel tackle that one is.
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>>534025943
Bodied that freak
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>>534031789
His willy came off.
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>>534031888
>>534031888
>>534031888
Baked, get in.
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>>534026160
THEY ARE PUTTING COOKIES ON THE BORDER
Quickly. Several millions of my most drunken retards must be delegged, set on fire and cubed immediately.
I your Monkë haz spoken.
Why the long face Sergei, this will only take about three days.
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>>534031656
Lmao, you disappeared the moment iran started bombing israel. Quite a coincidink.

Welcome back however, you're my favorite lolcow.
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>>534031774
Bottom Inspection?
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>>534027438
>skimmed it for keywords
>doesnt actually engage the answers
>seems weirdly disconnected to the entire discussion
its a bot or a schizo



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