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>6'4 meathead starts to threaten to kill you over a mattress
>Threatens to kill your son
>Threatens to kill you about 8 more times
>Meathead grabs a baseball bat and rushes you
>Smashes you in the head so you shoot him
>YOU go to jail
Kek american self defense laws are retarded
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Talk shit, get hit, nigger
Guys didn't do anything wrong
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>>534028415
They warned him.
They waaaAaarned him
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>>534028415
the ideal male form and posture
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>>534028415
>meth head is white
>you're white
>media is currently obsessed with niggers so they portray you as a racist, permanently tainting the jury pool
>no appeal granted regardless
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>>534028415
>6'4 meathead starts to threaten to kill you over a mattress
>Threatens to kill your son
>Threatens to kill you about 8 more times
>Meathead grabs a baseball bat and rushes you
>Smashes you in the head so you shoot him
>YOU go to jail
Is that the actual QRD for this fat fag meme? It's the first time that I've read the backstory, and it's as quintessentially muttmerican as I thought it would be.
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>>534028415
Another white human sacrifice made by ZOG's judiciary
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>>534028415
Why do some parts of the US look like third world South American countries?
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I recall only either the son or the father got a harsh sentence and one got a lighter one?

Btw no one has yet mentioned how there was a foid in the background pushing the meathead into escalating further :DD You could hear it in the video that she enjoyed it.
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>>534028850
We have a lot of land that's only been developed on for 250 years or less
Also lots of niggers and wiggers
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>>534028879
Vid with audio: https://www.gorecenter.com/the-abilene-shooting/
From what I read from another site, the father got 12 years for some reason, and the son got nothing.
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>>534028990
So I wonder if there was a way for the father to take the whole blame instead of them both getting 12.
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>>534028990
> the father
> the son

Can’t wait till they start prosecuting the Holy Spirit
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>>534028691
Sort of, but it left some stuff out and changed the order of events
>Millers were inside their home when Howard began shouting
>Millers leave home with guns to confront Howard
>Howard is upset that they have guns and begins making threats
>John Miller discharges firearm, hitting Howard
>Howard then throws baseball bat (this is the only time it is seen in the short video)
>Michael discharges firearm
>Also Howard has a criminal record and a track record of anger issues, for which he is medicated
>John Miller was sentenced
>Michael Miller was not
Just rednecks being rednecks, nothing of value was lost that day.
Extra reading from wikipedia:
>In May 2018, Howard was charged for threatening a public servant after he threatened to kill a code enforcement officer for trespassing on his property
>when the officer was called to the house for complaints of health-code violations.
>Four days prior to the shooting, Howard verbally abused a mailman trying to deliver a package because he believed the mailman was trying to peek inside his daughter's window.
>The mailman then called supervisors and Howard threatened to kill him.
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>>534028415
They even did society a favor. The guy they killed was a piece of shit.
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>>534028691
Not at all.

>Chad meathead goes to alleyway to confront heroin using poors who leave trash everywhere in the back alley
>Chad has kids and wants them to leave the alley clean
>Poor fatties bring out guns and start talking shit
>Chad is unarmed
>Takes a step towards one of the fatties
>Fatties start blasting


That's pretty much the story.
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>>534029395
Crying won't get the top of your skull back A A Ron.
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>>534029395
No it’s not , ignorant dip shit
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>>534028415
I doubt it
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>>534029395
That's not the story the other dude was having a meltdown I remember seeing the webm on /fit/ years ago
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>>534028415
If American laws on self defense are ridiculous, then just imagine in Europe, you simply don't have the right to defend yourself.
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>>534028415
If he has a weapon, it's totally on him, but you can still lose a civil case because his family relied on his mattress theft to sustain themselves and some states think like this, specifically California.
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>>534028415
i doubt it
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>>534028415
His life wasn't threatened and it was not a proportional response, the fat guy should have killed the woman instead.
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>>534029946
After they shot the violent big mouth the should have killed the wife and raped her then did their kids too.
Butchered them up quietly and had a BBQ for the neighborhood
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>>534028415
You sought out the confrontation outside your property. You don't get to create a confrontation off your property, provoke someone, and then shoot them dead. If he was on their property, they could have shot him basically immediately. They know this, which is why they sit there trying to provoke him into doing something in the mistaken belief that if you aren't the first one to make it physical you have zero liability.

You don't have a duty to retreat in many states, which is fine, but you do have a duty to not create physical confrontations where there don't have to be confrontations.
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>>534030073
The retard caused the problem they solved the problem
They were within their rights , you can open or conceal carry a firearm there.
He threatened them repeatedly then attacked them.
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>>534030073
This is correct.
The reason the son got off was because he doesn't suggest, for example, that the guy with the bat 'take a swing'. They were perfectly fine to carry their firearms, to confront the man, but as this anon says, you can't create or encourage the circumstances in which you then use lethal force in self-defence.
The textbook example is a bar fight. You go into a bar carrying your gun. You confront a dude. You encourage him to 'take a swing', then when he does, you shoot him dead. You don't have lawful self-defence because you provoked the confrontation with the intent to use lethal force.
Sucks to suck, in short.
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they did nothing wrong, apart from leaving the bitch wife alive.
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>>534029151
They have their top people on it, be assured
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>>534028415
How can you take the time to shave and come out with facial hair like that?
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>>534028415
One of the greatest injustices I have ever seen. Free mattress bros!
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>>534028415

The Old Man took the rap
He's in ail right now
Cry harder.
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>>534030940

*in jail
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>>534028415
you forgot this part:
>if you're a nigger in the midst of a chimp out and you claim they said the n word, all charges dropped/released on probation and community service
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>>534028990
>you’re not gonna shoot my husband
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>>534030454
>>534030073
So that’s the jew parasite take
That they “instigated”
Just like Gazans instigated their destruction I’m sure
He said “back off” two dozen times
Instigation says the kike
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where is the borderlands edit
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>>534029395
>calling white trash Chad
Look Patel I know how desperate you are to be white, but sucking Jew dick isn't the way.
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TAAAKE YER SWAAANG
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>>534028629
Kek
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>>534028415
Fat bro, did society a father by ending the wigger having a chimp out.

only shame is that the retarded foid goading him on wasnt also shot.
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Pretty neat how we're still talking about the battle of mattress ally
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>>534035297
i doubt it
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It was all the woman's fault.
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>>534029395
Guns only aid dysgenic people. Strong poeple are usually nice. Weak poeple are evil.
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>>534028415
>Kek american self defense laws are retarded

Kid walked free, dad didn't

They too could have backed away. Everyone had ample options to avoid murderous violence. Neither side backed down. One side had 1 out of 2 incarceration, other side had 1 out of 2 death by shotgun

life is oddly evenly fair sometimes, I wouldn't complain
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>>534028415
better to use pepper spray gel. you look like a fag but at least you won't get 15 years in prison.
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>>534028497
Well he died so he definitely messed up somewhere
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>>534028691
GODDAMN NEWFAGS GET OFF MY BOARD REEEE
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>>534035528
yeah it's crazy but it's true

>>534035834
not too long ago (as soon 300 or 500 years ago) it was common to walk around at least with a blade, or a gun.

this idea of having the upper hand by being physically strong is a luxury of times peace... peace created by these people you call "dysgenic" because in wars what get you through is surviving the elements and having good joints and strong feet... being big and muscley is only good for model magazines
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>>534028415
Why were they acting like Grand Theft Auto NPCs?
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>>534028415
There's some old cop show that has this event. But they released the footage before the guys were convicted. It's actually insane to watch. First off, they heavily edit the video. They completely removed the girlfriend of the dead guys screaming and instigating. They almost completely removed any audio of the dead guy making threats. Paint the shooters as evil monsters, and have the girl there being interviewed just playing the victim and crying. It's bonkers. Fuck John Walsh.
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>>534035834
Explain how the result would be any different if they were armed with hammers.
You just said people are the problem, but then still came around to
>Guns bad
fucking NPC, and I don't toss that around often.
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>>534035928
better to unite as people and use your 2nd amandement so jewish corrupted government stopped treating you like slaves
but i guess you can just make everyone's eyes itchy while you are getting your head stomped in the ground if you prefer
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>>534028415
The thing is there were two of them and they could have easily arrested him.
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>>534035928
No, the better thing to do would've been to shoot everyone there and take the phone. You're not going to get away with anything when you have some witness crying about it to a jury.
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>>534036456
you need more than guns to go up against niggermutt ZOGbots. a routine patrol officer wears a bulletproof vest these days.
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>>534028691
How are you THIS new
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>>534029326
>>534029395
Is no one not going to talk about his wife? I think I heard her in the video and she says you shot my husband. She was also antagonizing dudes a few seconds earlier. Karen will always get you killed if you get involved.
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>>534028990
>the father got 12 years for some reason
the reason was being tried by a female judge and all-female jury for shooting a 6"6' Chad
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>>534035864
>They too could have backed away.
and been beaten to death by a baseball bat
the only stupider way to die than letting yourself get beaten to death with a baseball bat, is getting beaten to death with a baseball bat while you have a loaded gun in your hand
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>>534036830
*by Aaron with a baseball bat
fuck, propaganda got me blaming inanimate objects for committing crimes too if I don't proofread
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>>534036830
Have a (you) magnificent bastard. You made me a chuckle with picrel. God I miss old /pol/. We don't get quality stuff anymore cuz of kikes and jeets shitting up the board.
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Fat retards and crazy people shouldn't be walking around free anyway. Let alone having access to deadly weapons.

All of these "was it self-defense?" arguments are missing the bigger picture. Fucking useless morons should be castrated so they at least can't perpetuate their retardation and violence into the future. Black, white, whatever. Just useless eaters that can't even join the military. Why do we tolerate this? Why can any retard pump out as many children as he wants?
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>>534028415
let's be real, they're fucking ugly and thats the only reason that they went to jail

if they both looked like clavicular they wouldn't have spent a weak in jail
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>>534028691
I actually met Aaron once at a bar in Abilene called the Ugly Lime about a month before he died. He was an absolute dick. My company's main office is out there and our administrator is friends with Aaron's wife. It turns out that our administrator had broken up with her boyfriend and he left his kids bed at her apartment. She had a truck full of his shit she was getting rid of and Aaron's wife said she could dump it in their dumpster. It wouldn't all fit in there's so Aaron put the mattress in the neighbors dumpster. Neighbors see it and took it out, set it by Aaron's dumpster. Aaron loses his shit and thats what led to the altercation. Our administrator still feels horribly guilty about the whole thing.
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>>534036554
yeah good old molotovs
or granade equiped drones
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Life is so depressing, Schopenhauer and the Teacher of Ecclesiastes arrived at the same conclusion, it would be better to not have existed at all.
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>>534037184
And I'm not even depressed, I have the will to live. But whenever I see the injustices in this world I can't help but wonder what the world would be without life. Only peace and quietness.
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>>534028850
Abilene's on the edge of the Chihuahuan desert. West Texas is insanely ugly.
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>>534037157
The stupid schizoid tough guy had it coming. He's lucky he made it as ling as he did, he was bound to play tough guy with someone that cared less about human life tha he did. Retard wouldn't even get his mail delivered because he freaked out on the delivery man accusing him of spying on his daughter. Fuck him.
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>>534029148
Thats essentially what happened.
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>>534036623
The wife is completely edited out of the videos shown to the public now. I saw it on COPS or something. It was like watching an entirely different video.
It should be used in school as a showcase to show media manipulation of public opinion.
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>>534029340
Can confirm. I met the guy once at a bar.
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>>534037371
My mom is the same. She is loud mouth and starting shit with everyone. Almost got me and my dad involved in a few fights for no reason. Then she blames the other party even though she was in the wrong. I told her straight out she was in the wrong and got pissed at me.
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>>534037550
>I told her straight out she was in the wrong and got pissed at me.
Women don't care about facts, they just want your support.
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>>534029340
>intermittent explosive disorder

god psychology is such a gay field

not even close to a science. all it seeks to do is give everyone excuses for everything

sorry im not just an impulsive retard who never learned self control from my single mother household actually i have INTERMITTENT EXPLOSIVE DISORDER

yeah thats totally real
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>>534037709
Yeah. Dude acts like my 2 year old nephew.
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>>534036623
The wife's hysterics escalated that out of control.
The cunt was a fucking nut too and had threatened the postman for going past the bedroom window of his daughter, accusing him of being a virtual pedo.
In his case the accusation was an admission for sure.
Those two dimwit should never have been done for murder. Its something I'd expect form my useless country.
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Not only do they edit the woman out of the video they show on COPS or Live PD or wherever I saw it, they also interview her and she totally plays the victim and is crying. Never a thing mentioned about her instigating instead of taking her known to be stupid and crazy man back inside.
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>>534037692
I am not going to support someone who is in the wrong. Even she is my mom. I do have some principles in this life.
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>>534028691
What >>534029326 said except
>Howard and his girlfriend toss some garbage onto the comunal trash container
>They come back to throw more trash, he finds a dirty matress he placed inside the container against his fence.
>He becomes angry and starts shouting at the Millers
Then it goes more or less as described.
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>>534029326
Revoke your citizenship and self-deportation from Britain. Nothing you said furthered any point other than that the person who got shot deserved it. For some reason you thought you made a case that everyone involved was equally in the wrong. Your brain is fried and your flippant redneck summary makes no sense whatsoever. Thanks for NOT making it easier to understand.
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>>534030062
> and raped her then did their kids too.
Butchered them up quietly and had a BBQ for the neighborhood


You’re not in the right anymore when you kill innocent people you are or spiritually are brown
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>>534028691
Can you imagine all this shit over a fucking mattress? Everyone involved in this should be hanged in a public square as an example of how not to be a fucking retard.
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>>534029340
>which he took medication for
Letting trannies completely own Wikipedia did more damage than I thought it could have. Trannies ripped through the internet like crack through Chicago in the 80s kek
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>>534037059
>>534035834
>>534030940
niggerfaggots
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>>534035297
Kekked
Thanks anon. Needed a smile today more than I realized.
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>>534038393
the good thing about low-iq criminals is that they are often self-removing. the bad thing is that they tend to have plenty of children so their ill seed still continues to plague decent working folks. thankfully we keep ours under control with plan-b & abortion.
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>>534029395
>>534030073
>>534030454
niggerfaggot
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>>534030938
>And a little bit of chicken fried
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>>534028415
The problem is that at the time, you could not open carry in public without a permit in Texas. Your driveway is not considered your property in Texas, meaning castle doctrine doesn’t apply. So unless they had a valid permit to carry, both were in the middle of felony possession of a firearm in public. Self defense does not apply when you’re in the middle of committing a crime (this is what they were hoping to nail Rittenhouse with when they tried to say his AR was a pistol).
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>>534028415
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>>534037025
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>>534029946
>>534030073
This
Sane person move
>Don't grab guns to go out and argue over a matress or don't go out and argue at all
Failed this.
>Just walk away and the threatening situation resolves itself, proceed to call the police
Failed this.
>Do no aggitate the situation further
Also failed this.
>B-b-b-but he was a mentally ill person and not nice
Yeah sure, does that suddenly mean people with mental illness or slmeone who shouts in public deserves to be gunned down? They went out there looking for a fight which they created.
Why do so many loud "muh self defence" retards just sound like they are looking for a legal (not moral) excuse to kill people?
>>534031718
>He said “back off”
Wooow so suddenly that means you can kill people now? Back off Pierre.
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>>534036830
>and been beaten to death by a baseball bat
Based on what?
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>>534037512
Can confirm, I was also at the bar when they met.
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>>534028850
the south is populated by what is called the scots irish. think of the shittiest scotsman you know and now crossbread that with the shittiest irishman you know and you get the scots irish. horrible people who have no morals but lots of pride. the niggers learned their culture from the scots irish after the civil war. horrible people worse than a gypsy jew hybrid
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>>534039509
just let them walk all over you cuz they are mentally unstable. show bussy you troon faggot
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>>534028415
It's because americans let the police disarm them and go peacefully.
Stop it.
That's why the militia was such a good idea.
No trials no kike judges no 80 iq cops.
Just men who took out the trash.
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>>534028415
Yep the father got fucked simply because he said "Take yer swing" which was legally provocation. The son was fine. They should not have been charged in the first place, but we are in a anarcho tyranny.
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>life and death situation over an old mattress
What are they putting in the water over there?
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>>534029709
This, if someone breaks into my house and I kill them then I will spend the rest of my life in jail.
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the only reason the dad and son went to jail is because they were ugly, looksmaxxing will save your life
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>>534039509
This is why Swede get raped by feral nigger.
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>aaron
>aaron
>nooooooooo
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>>534040432
> looksmaxxing will save your life
Depends on if the judge and how many of the jury are female.
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>>534040154
Well I hope Fatty Mcdonalds takes such empty bravado with him to jail, it will be the only comfort he has has he will have no gun to cuddle.
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>>534037832
She was a nut to stay with her husband. It's not enough that he beats you and the kid but also threaten the mailman to the point where he can't do his job. Normally it is virtuous for a wife to be loyal to her husband but even then there is a level that breaches sanity. She wanted a man just to beat up other dudes for her. Worst kind of bad boy attraction.
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>>534028415
Because low IQ cretins cannot grasp that the 'self defence' claim has a major load of conditions and criterias to it.
One of the conditions is that you had you did everything in your power to move away from the situation, deescalate the situation, or had to stand your ground due to factors.

If this case was a 'get-out-of-jail' self defence case, then it would create a very unsustainable society where every quarrel ends with a shooting that is seemingly 'justifed'.
It's hillarious how manty hillbilly mutts that recieves life sentence because they think virtually everything is 'self defence' so they become super trigger happy.
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>>534041220
Didn't the son get acquitted? I can sort of see why this case could have gone either way. Better to honor max by not trashing the place.
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>>534033436
>where is the borderlands edit
I got ya
https://files.catbox.moe/9rf22y.mp4
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>>534037924
based
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>>534041970
>it would create a very unsustainable society where every quarrel ends with a shooting that is seemingly 'justifed'.
this was literally the entire globe not 300 years ago. we have been enslaved and our rights removed
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>>534028415
>>YOU go to jail
Don't be there when the cops come, you idiot. Why is this so hard for imageboard users to grasp?
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>>534040073
Niggers and rednecks are still better than gypsies and kikes. They already integrate with the rest of society better without intervention. No long term plotting to screw you, just random relapses from acting civilized.
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>>534042721
>this was literally the entire globe not 300 years ago
It most certainly was not.
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>>534028415
If they weren't such eyesores the jury would have justified their actions but having the gall to go outside shirtless when you're that fucking fat is instant guilty for any decent person on that jury
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>>534028629
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>2026
>people still don't understand how self defense works.

>did you started the fight?
>did you had a oportunity to avoid the confrontation?
>was shooting him the only option to save yourself?
>did you aim to kill or to imobilize

Answer this shit, and you will know if you are eligible for self-defence or not.
They were not eligible for self-defence because they started it and pretty much spent the whole time escalating the situation until the point where they had the opportunity to kill the negro.
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>>534037709
Psychology ceased being a valid field when leftists began infiltrating it in the 1960's and began removing morality from disorders and conditions.
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>>534043145
>Answer this shit, and you will know if you are eligible for self-defence or not.
None of this matters, you idiot.

see >>534042815

You really wnat to throw the dice on this? Wanna gues sif the court finds you guilty or not? How fucking retarded is everyone on here?

The secret is this: You solve the problem. Then you run away. Best case: No witnesses. Worst case: Witnesses are part of "the problem". That is how it works and how it will always work.
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>>534043348
Ahmed, please...
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its honestly natural selection, the gun rednecks wait half their life to shoot someone legally. that is the wet dream. talking about "self defense" is like weed and "medical uses", fuck off fags
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>>534043145
>get attacked
>now you are responsible for the wellbeing of your attacker
people hate judges and the like not nearly enough
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>>534039670
based on the fact Aaron said repeatedly that he'd kill them, then retrieved a weapon to kill them with
no, he didn't pick up that bat because he needed it to talk things out, he picked it up to carry out his threat to kill
when someone says they'll kill you and then attacks you with a weapon, you are in a lethal force situation and legally permitted to kill the attacker, without having to wait for them to actually kill you before you are allowed to do anything to defend yourself
I realize this concept is literally mind-breaking to Eurotards, but that's why we have liberty and you only have a sad sick joke imposed on you by tyrants
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>>534036359
John "The assailant rushes through the intersection narrowly missing a pre-k school bus.. JOSTLING THE CHILDREN." Walsh?
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>>534041970
>you did everything in your power to move away from the situation, deescalate the situation, or had to stand your ground due to factors.
Why is it incumbent on the victim to deescalate a threat against them? Why isn't it incumbent on the aggressor?
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>>534030454
In my state it is illegal to drink and carry a gun. This is not a blue state but a purple state. Many red states have the same policy. Even if I don't drink in this situation the judge and jury is going to assume I am went somewhere start a fight with someone who legally can't shoot me back. The only time a drunk person can fire a gun in my state is if someone breaks into their house to murder them. However if everyone is sober and in an alley then it is a legal gray area and the laws can be looser here than even in some red states. This is what gets people who don't keep up with the changing laws or have trouble remembering them what they are and in the state they are in. So many ways people can legally screw up to make firearm self defense unlawful. And the outcome can vary considerably depending on how the law is interpreted from often vague wording.
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>>534043803
he's swedish, they're only brave enough to blame victims because attackers are too scary
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>>534043656
When you bring a gun to a fight you started, it's not self-defence; it's just murder with extra steps.

Everyone who ever carried a weapon knows you can't start a fight if you are armed. It's guaranteed jail.
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>>534044531
>the towns angry assaulting guy with a baseball bat is raging at you
>"you started the fight"
aaron deserved to be ventilated
threatening someone with a visible gun to kill that someone is evidence that you are a lunatic
then stepping toward that threatened person, with the bat in hand, should be reason enough to be killed
>"just wait till he bashes his bat into the other guy, then he can open fire"
fuck off
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>>534042939
>gay euroslave doesn’t take matters into his own hands while living in the most remote part of the world not-300 years ago
No wonder swedes today are a nation of turbo faggots that have humanities first feminist government that’s somehow the rape capital of Europe too
>duh d-duh duh what about duuuh burgers
who fucking cares I said what I said



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