Imagine having no control over your own car
>>534034903He can sue the car company for stealing his time.
Why can't they do these updates when the car is parked at home???
>>534034903I drive a 2011 tacoma
>>534034903even before this whole surveillance shit started I already hated all the electric crap they introduced.it provides no significant benefit to me but just makes shit harder to fix by myself.I need my car to safely get me from A to B, everything else is unnecessary.
New ford's update too, but I think they remain drivable. If someone manages to sell a car without all this shit on it, I'll buy it.
It's a smart car. Leave it alone while it's meditating.
>>534035076I drive a Chevrolet movie theater
>>534034946*for kidnapping and attempted murderHe'll get more shekels that way
>>534035031why does a fucking CAR need an UPDATE in the first place? I'm glad I drive an analogue Japanese shitbox with 370 horsepower and no parking camera
>>534034903>that will be $38000 +tip AKA insurance and interest People keep buying these electronic monstrosities and wonder why vehicles are all priced out for rich boomers.
wouldn't know, I drive an 18 year old shitbox that doesn't even have a DPF fitted
>the software can't do live updatesThe Linux kernel, which a lot of the services you use (provided by data centres), can patch itself while it's running. Read that again, while an entire operating system, which millions of lines of code, can update itself while it's running.The companies that provide things like hosting or cloud based services, like this kind of feature because having to restart the servers is downtime. And yeah, you can spread the load but even something like having to do a 15 second reboot every once in a while starts to add up once you get to thousands of servers. While they're not running, they're not making money.Anyway, back to the car, it's pretty laughable that they can't even get a much simpler system, which is just essentially an application running on an OS, to be able to live update itself.This reeks of jeetism. Where they are simply not bright enough to do it correctly and their only solution is to shut everything down while it updates, because they're retards.This is your "elite human capital". Some bean counter thought it was "cheaper" to hire three useless Indians than hire American. Or at least, you know if you're going to outsource, hire European instead of these fucking H1B scamjeets.They have them working in national defense companies too. That should be a national secrurity issue. Nobody talks about it. But nobody should have the right to complain if they see something like a Patriot missile just fly like a dud firework and hit the ground instead of its target. Jeets have the smallest brains of all the racest, they literally don't have the brainpower for things like aviation physics, when train physics is too complex. How the fuck are they going to do literal rocket science? At just 76 IQ you're lucky if you can get them to understand conditional hypotheticals, let alone advanced calculus.
>>534034903>posted from a piss soaked bus seat on a 1 hour/5km commute
>>534034903>>534034903Imagine getting Fired and turned into McDonalds because you think you own your property and a Jew said so
I have a 2025 Honda Pilot and it will not update if it's connected to phone internet.
>>534034903>do not drive until the update is completeAnd how are they going to stop me?
*crack**sip*>Yeah she's from 1983... they don't build em like they used to
>>534035167There is a man riding a horse on top of my chest
>>534034903turn off the automated updates
>>534035031It would need to know where your home is.Do you want Hyundai to know where you live?
>>534035212The other alternative is that some hacker gets access to the remote-control function and forces you to the oncoming traffic's lane. Only the state and the manufacturer are supposed to have access to that feature, not some random Russian kid
>>534035392They don’t and OP is a fag. The screen is unavailable and the services that come with it are down for the moment but the car should function just the same.
>>534035392They literally can't. The message is just CYA insurance from the car maker OP is just autistic
>>534034903I have a 1992 shitbox but couldnt modern car drivers just not connect the car to wifi or if it is cellular they could just unplug the antenna?
in 20 years were going to have toliets and brooms that cant be used until their firmware is updated.
>>534035269Nigger that’s the plan. Kill off whitey. Indian/asian whatever slave race. Lurk more? Idk what to tell ya. Imagine getting a facelift and 2weeks later you’re in jail?
>>534034903>he doesnt drive a golden era Honda
>>534035526I would simply drive the car regardless of the message. They're just saying don't drive because the backup camera that's legally required to be equipped by the OEM temporarily isn't available. Just drive
Find the 5g board, rape it with a screw driver, find the WiFi board, also rape it with a screw driver.No more updates, no remote shutdown.
>>534034903>Where are you!?>oh my car crashed>oh god are you ok!>yeah im fine>really? do you need a doctor should you go to the hospital?!>no no i said im fine its just my car crashed>yeah that aweful and thats why im asking if you are ok?>other than being stuck here im fine really>but your car just crashed>yeah now im stuck in boot>what the police didn't help you after the crash?>no the police arent here>what about an ambulance>sorry i got to go the car is backing up>what get out it!>i can't>why not?!>the car crashed and now its stuck in boot while backing up>how can it back up if its in a boot?>i don't know im on hold phone with tech support
>>534035416I hate this gay era, I couldn't even know the kino era. Fuck that shit.
I need to buy a new car and I am so close to just getting some POS from the 80s or 90s that I can maintain forever. I don't know which route to go.
>>534035774In Amerikike, land of the (((free))), every car manufactured after 2027 is going to have driver-facing AI cameras that stare at you constantly to see if you're "drunk". The reality is they want to see who is driving the car so they know where to send the drones after you make a spicy post on the internet.The cyberpunk future is not implants and robot arms, it's gay jewish nannystate open air prison killboxes.
>>534035031Oh you can, you just have to connect your SmartPhone to the car and have the dealership activate the feature then you can activate it by digging down to the 14th menu and turning on the 9th different option, but please note these updates move the option every month and it resets each time you start the car because it was coded by a retarded pajeet :)
>>534035780You'd have it for 20,000 miles (which was a lot in the 80's) and then when the 4-speed transmission computer shits the bed discover that nobody makes that anymore and your frame is rusted through except near your engine because the oil leak keeps it preserved.Literally any car made today will be 10x as reliable as those 80's/90's junkers
>>53403523523 years old here. It's the 2nd worse. The worse is buying a new truck for $50k to lose 55% of its value the second the factory warranty is over.
>>534034903hahaha deserved for being a retarded goyim who buys a tech-dystopian spyware-loaded cuckbox>you vill remain stranded for ze update>and you vill be happy
>>534035857Still more free than here. They have new radars fining you if you don't respect the limit's distances between cars or we have bumpers everywere and cops waiting for the depressed wagie stoned or alcoholised.Wait untill they implement alcool tests before you can start your car. It's coming world wide.Driving used to be enjoyable now it make you paranoid.
>>534036000It’s weird seeing someone talk with intelligence rather than the dogmatic retards that usually pervade the discussions on cars
>>534035212>shitbox>370 hp supercarwtf what is it?
>>534036134I’d love to see a truck depreciate like that. Maybe after 150k miles and ten years that would be realistic.
>>534036000>20,000 miles (which was a lot in the 80's)You what ? Even the shitiest Lada could go for 200 000 km
>>534036000>Literally any car made today will be 10x as reliable as those 80's/90's junkersGo repeat that on /o/ and see what they say. 80's I'd be more inclined to agree, but the 90's were peak.
>>534034903How did the car industry become so kiked?
I paid €7k cash for a low mileage 1 litre skoda fabia. Its never let me down.
>>534035720That's assuming it won't just shut itself down if it can't phone home for x amount of time.So when they turn off your cars servers you can buy a new one
you won't even own a car in the future
>>534036270>but the 90's were peak.late 90s and early 2000s were peak reliability. Sadly cars of that era are past the rust-death window around here so they're very hard to find now.
>>534035212It was an update to make updates more frequent
>>534036000>the 4-speed computerIs that what we're calling linkage now?>automaticTorque converter then?
>>534035113Slate might ship by the end of the year.
>>534036197I think it's because most people here are just youngsters who never owned a car that had an odometer that didn't even go to 100k. They literally don't know better. Like that dipshit who thinks pickups lose 50% value. I fuckin wish I could get a relatively new fullsize for $20k!!
>>534036267Do you still see them driving around? Why do you think they've disappeared?
>>534036270Late 90's you'd be alright because those engines were still used in the 00's. Early 90's you're buying the bones of 80's tech and manufacturing capabilities.
>>534034903Asking for it.
>>534035235How do you even read PDF with that car ? I bet there s no youtube or netflix.
>>534035720>>534036398Yea this sucks balls looking at which cars you can mod like if you're in a shitty cyberpunk to avoid getting sued, fined, jailed, and fired is the future kek
>>534036854Big problem these days is that engines are designed to fudge fuel consumption benchmarks in lab conditions, not to actually be good, efficient, reliable engines. Early 2000s was basically top of the hill for being able to defeat CAFE with innovation. And now suddenly everything is turbocharged gasoline direct injection bullshit that eats itself alive in 10 years.
>>534034903Not my problem
>>534036776>Do you still see them driving around?In fact yes, some people take extremely good care of their shits (it's quite rare tbf).>Why do you think they've disappeared?Because of course they reached a point where they couldn't be repaired, but it was certainly not 20K miles, I had a VW Golf that I pushed to near 300K km and I'm not particularly cautious.
>>534037002What's fun is that ECUs were invented basically to give you better fuel economy and to regulate your car better. Seemed like a good idea. Now they're encrypted proprietary pieces of shit that brick your car unless you take it to a dealer. If you want a cool version of cyberpunk, it'd be people making black market gear to kill native modern pozzed ECUs and replace them with open source software. It kind of exists already in some circles (*cough BMW*). But that's what out of work software engineers should be doing right now.
>>534035753Lel good post
>>534035167Interior crocodile alligator
>>534036216everytime I beat the misus I add one (1) turbo to the car
>>534035488>Do you want Hyundai to know where you live?they already do, unless you park your car somewhere else every night and walk home
>>534035416We used to own an 83 Z car
>>534036270>>534036452>>534036854They need to just like reprint a Honda Civic from 1999 with no WiFi and no Bluetooth and I'd just buy that and nothing else for the rest of my life
>>534036270>80s were analog I’d take my 1984, 1990, or 1991 Chevy trucks over any new modern planned obsolescence vehicle any day of the week.
>>534036568Kek
>>534035269??? No one is updating their Linux kernel in the cloud. Typically it's a docker image in a kubernetes cluster. You deploy the new image in the background and swap it out when it's ready. That requires enough space for two instances of what you actually need.If you mean update the cluster itself, well - that's how cloud services have catastrophic failures sometimes
I looked up all the car manufacturers in europe and there's not one low-end model that isn't an ipad on wheel. Not even Dacia.If you don't want to cuck yourself with a car your best bet is some ol reliable from the 90s which hopefully has a lot of spare parts.
>>534034903Should have bought a jap
Drive a shitty 2010 car
>>534036134>>534035235I bought a 2010 Toyota Corolla for 3k back in 2018, it's now worth 10k (canadian). Low mileage and very good condition. Probably will be driving it for an other 10+ years.
>>534037041Also just not true. Average car driving now is older than it's ever been. They're lasting much longer than they ever have before.
Jews are right about goyim.
>>534037278Unfortunately I don't think they'll ever do that again. People have convinced themselves that 250hp is not enough power to pick up groceries and the government insists on making all cars death proof, right or wrong
>>534037267I want a 300z so bad, but I also don't want to spend all my paycheck in a machine shop milling parts every six months.
>>534037267Also, that HUD aesthetic needs to come back. I am so sick of iPad cars.
>>534036305Jews
>>534035235I drive one of pic rel. There's no SUV that can keep up with it. I can take sharp turns while accelerating. Any other SUV would just turn upside down. My only fear is that someone will steal it from me.
>>534037041They could make engines run leaner and cleaner, drawing less fuel and everything, but that would mean the cars are too clean and efficient for their advertised fuel use, which violates regulation.To make sure the cars are within spec, they run richer than necessary.This became a big problem when some scientists tried adding hydrogen gas to the mix and cleaned the exhaust by up to 75%.The issue with automotive legislation is that some people don't want the exhaust gasses because of the smell and bad health effects... but others want more bad exhaust gasses so it poisons as many people as possible.Because of that we have 25% more fuel drain and 75% more emissions than strictly necessary with one simple trick.Imagine if someone figures out how to burn straight hydrogen gas generated from water kept in an on-board tank.The Jews would really hate that.
>>534035212Reminder over the air updates are a 'feature' that retards pay extra for. She got what she deserved that faggot
>>534034903That looks like a 'do not drive', not a 'can not drive' situation. If you l you need your rear camera to reverse you should just kill yourself.
>>534035500>muh russian hackersYou dont get out much do you? Just believe everything the media tells you?
>>534037498They aren’t lasting longer, we are going longer without replacing them. We got rid of good cars because they were “old”. Early 2000s model cars were sold amount friends in high school for less than 1500 dollars. Now a 1999 civic is worth 3k
>>534037941>12 000 euros for 250km listingFuck my chuddie life. Real rally cars are even more expensive as well, like 100 grands range and the boomers are hoarding them all up.I am suffering.
>>534037592You can easily cut half the weight off of cars and make 150HP feel like 300 without compromising safety.Ditching the lithium battery is a good start. You don't need all that battery for the benefits of the electric motor in acceleration.Toyota's Prius was a fucking disgusting car but the "smol cute battery + plenty petrol" see philosophy is the best way to alleviate the problem of mechanical loss.Make it a diesel-electric power train and it'll be more economical than diesel-mechanic too.Pity that the Prius' main problem, besides the hiiiideous aesthetics, was that they underpowered it. 58HP iirc. Needed 120 at least, manageable from that 1,5L NA with today's engineering.
>>534036398>That's assuming it won't just shut itself down if it can't phone home for x amount of time.None of them do that because they're reliant on cell service not satellites. You can just take off your driver side mirror cover usually and rip out the antenna if you don't want it talking to anyone. You guys are fucking babies about shit you are completely ignorant of.
>>534038233Nope. People own cars for longer, and they're lasting longer. Average car driving on the road today was made in 2011.
>>534038391How would reliance on cell towers change the idea of having programming that bricks a car if it can't communicate with Israel? Same concept isn't it?
>>534036216Could you be any more of a nutless europoor Hans?>don't answer that I don't want to hear about your fucking bike
>>534034903The bigger issue is if you wack your car, all those lane departure safety features get damaged and have to be replaced and recalibrated. Sticking a car in the ditch is now a $10k repair, even if you don't fuck up your suspension.
>>534037985>imagine someone invented Hydrogen fuel cellThey all died kekhttps://tcct.com/news/2020/11/the-mysterious-death-of-stanley-meyer-and-his-water-powered-car/
>>534036568the ECU determines gear of transmission even in my 10th gen F150>>534038581 because it’s not happening yet
>>534038581Because car mfgs use the cheapest carrier available which lose connectivity anywhere a couple miles away from interstate highway corridors. There's no expectation of functional cell service for a massive amount of the population so they can't set up their cars to shit the bed when they're outside of the network. Just rip out the antenna if you want to brick your infotainment system and be free of any form of mfg instituted tracking. Of course your other electronics will still be watching as will the satellites in LEO and GEO as well as all the surveillance reaper drones flying at high altitude but that's another topic alltogether.
>>534038695>10th-gen F-150: 1997-2004Not quite the 80s.The late 90s is when all the cars started to get the more involved ECUs that did more than tweak the fuel mix and ignition timing, so that fits.A 1985 pickup however will have had a standard old pre-computer torque converter that obeys the laws of throttle and nothing else.
>>534036216subaru
>>534034903
>>534038391It isn't just the antenna. You'd be surprised how many GPS tagging devices get stuffed into new cars. Or maybe you wouldn't. Pretty much the first thing you should do when you get a new car these days is open up the panel beneath the steering wheel and rip that shit out. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pF1bANUn-cE>>534038581Need someone to reprogram the car, which will obviously make your poz box unsellable.
lol @ cuckmobiles
>>534038898Transmission computers are nearly as old as automatic transmissions lmaoIt's crazy how little people know about the things they own and use every day
>>534039142Aussie zoomers think this is peak LMAOOOOO
>>534034903they are goy cattle, so yes. cars and "car culture" are a pox on the world.
>>534034903kek, what kind of garbage computer/software components does this car have that an update takes 45 minutes?there's no way it takes user patches and compiles them so it's binaries. BINARIES.you can completely update AND completely checksum verify a super bloated Linux install in 5 minutes on a standard NVMe SSD because fucking duh, SSD are fast
I own 3 vehicles with 102 years of service life between themGoywagoneers seeth and copeCouldn't be me
>>534039219>zoomerstop kek, zoomers don't drive LS2 V8's, they either have cuckmobiles or get the bus.
>>534039307>be car company>need to reduce bom to as low as possible.>use the slowest cheapest MMC and a simple SPI bus to talk to it>wow why does this multi-gb update firmware image take so long to flash?!I don't think people realize just how bad it really is. ironic that in the past, they probably would use simpler binary patching and partial update packages instead of full blown image replacements, but whatever. weird Windows MSI lore in that...
>>534038898Swap out with an Edelbrock Performer or Holley carburetor, which are purely mechanical and eliminate the need for the original ECM. Problem solved.
>>534039166This >>534039542
>>534034903I cant wait for these cock sucking cars to start pulling the windows trick and force shutting down your car while in use to force an update that literally just bricks the fucking thing.
>>534038175you retarded muttoid, if you border russia or are in Europe then russoid hackers are actually a threat. They constantly pull that shit.
>>534039542Instead you get ALLLLL the problems that come with carburators. Fuck every part of that, get your head out of your ass boomer
>>534035167INTEEEEEERIOR CROC-O-DILE ALLIGATOR
>>534039709No, you idiot. It's Mossad's Unit 8200 hacking you and telling you it's Russians, so you and the Russians will fight each other.And you retards keep falling for it.
>>534035167did your four 15"s wake up the neighbors?
>>534039413In the US you routinely see zoomers wrap hellcat v8's around trees. Extremely common.It's just bizarre seeing people hype up what looks like the bones of a Pontiac G6. Never felt old until this thread.
>>534038898 The transmissions in my K cars used a computer. Electronic transmissions basically appeared the same time fuel injection did.Assume you have an electronic transmission unless there's a vacuum line or a throttle body linkage going to it.
>>534039755Put a new Edelbrock EFI street cruiser on it. Jesus Christ what are you a retard? Just wait 10 years from now you’ll be ripping your fucking hair out wishing you bought these old trucks and cars.
>>534039823Yeah, it's mossad hacking Estonian and Finnish infrastructure. Of course. Fucking idiot.
>>534039595Plus - swapping to carbs doesn't relieve you of needing a transmission computer if it came with an automatic
>>534034903you deserve thistotal carfag death
>>534034903I have an 1986 Toyota 22RI changed the water pump and belts last week148k milesRuns like a dream
>>534039904Nope. My trucks are all analog transmission.
>>534039860It is actually the same sedan as the Pontiac G8.We built those here, and exported them to you.You also got the long wheelbase version as the Chevrolet Caprice PPV.And the next generation after that, you got as the 2014 Chevy SS.
>>534034903Cars are important for freedom of mobility but being car dependent especially in cities and exurbs is pathetic jewish anglo mutt greed. Public transportation is a very white, very european/east Asian thing that should be celebrated and protected to avoid having to lease new heavily electronic autoslop every year
>>534039904>A 1984 Chevy Silverado does not require a transmission computer for its primary operation. During this era, GM's automatic transmissions were hydraulically controlled, meaning they used fluid pressure and mechanical cables, not a computer to decide when to shift gears.
>>534039893>it's mossad hacking Estonian and Finnish infrastructure.It is. I know how they're doing it.
>>534039524>need to reduce bom to as low as possible.>use the slowest cheapest MMCwith current car prices? kekto me this seems like no competence in engineering reasonable computers/software, at the expense of customers
>>534035031if your car requires updates, it was designed by fuckin morons in the first place.
>>534039995Sounds very kludgy, hope it holds up
>>534034903Lmfao
>>534039904>700R4 / 4L60 (Non-Electronic): Most 1500-series (half-ton) trucks from 1990 and 1991 used the 700R4, which was renamed the 4L60 in 1990. This transmission is hydraulically controlled and does not require a computer for shifting; it still uses a mechanical Throttle Valve (TV) cable.Now you know bro.
>>534037456I drive a 2015 honda, 350 000 km so far I only ever changed the tires and the brake pads.
>>534040172I have three that are in perfect condition. I think I’ll be OK.
>>534034903> hahahaha I just wasted 45 minutes of my life because muh own nothing and pay forever> but I'm happy!> funny topsy turvy smiley emojiIf people continue to pretend to be entertained by this kind of utter nonsense, nothing will ever change.
>>534040172When that micronova hits, you’ll be wishing you had an analog carburetor
>>534039997My brother had a G8 that got annihilated by a semi truck back before he was shipped off to Iraq in like 2008? Had to wait something like 6 months for parts from Australia. Crazy wave of memories coming back about that car lol
>>534040288I wonder why nobody designs transmissions to work this way anymoreProbably because it's a kludgy mess
>>534035235>doesn't even have a DPFextremely based
>>534040391Every winter when I don't have to adjust or rejet a carb is when I'm glad I'm not a delusional boomer clinging to obsolete tech
>>534040397kek, parts are a lot easier to get here, for obvious reasons.But yeah, they're still quite desirable cars here, because there's been no replacement for them - no decent-sized V8 sedans / utes - since Ford and GM both went out of business here.Everything left is 2-litre, 4-cylinder or EV cuckmobiles, unless you want to spend $100k+ AUD, which is just retarded.Although with petrol (gasoline) prices being what they are at the moment, there are a few people selling their V8's at the moment, so the price on them is holding steady a bit lower than it's been for a while.
>>534040131>with current car prices? kekyes. companies have a fiduciary responsibility to maximize profits and make line go up forever.
>>534040316there is literally nothing we can do. they control it.
>>534035313But w0t iff phone is update?
>>534035488Retard just do the update when the car has been parked for 2 hours between 10pm and 4am, otherwise what's so fucking urgent? They should definitely get sued for even suggesting that retarded shit happen immediately on some random pop-up prompt randomly during the day.
>>534034946That only works if he's a jew.
>>534040485Planned obsolescence. If they build things that last forever then shareholder profits don’t increase.
>>534034903>too retarded to schedule it for 4amI mean I see your point but this is avoidable.
>>534041040You guys are so goddamn retarded lmaoLove that you have to have 2 parts trucks for your 1 that's operational though
>we're about to be in a reality where a 2022 planned-obsolescence shitbox nu-Camry with 100K miles is going to be worth like 50K because no one wants 2027+ goymobilessometimes this almost feels like an auto industry lobby ploy to get goyim to rush to buy new cars to offset the shit sales over the past few years because they're trying to charge double what cars cost 7 years ago
>>534036197>>534036728Cringe
>>534041436I have three operational trucks. I have loads of spare parts for all three.
>>534034903New goy cars are for the cattle. Having an old car is based
>>534034903Well it must have been an important update it if took 45 mins and it gave her no choice to postpone>Elantra April update: Online Navigation: Now uses server-based mapping for live, up-to-date routing instead of locally stored mapping data.>Improved Bluetooth connection and better phone projection.Or maybe not.
>>534035076good for you
>>534040172They are pretty bad. All old autos were made of glass and used napkins. Analog pressure autos died for good reason.
>>534041488I wonder why you need loads of spare parts
I drive a 2002 Cavalier and a 2006 Jeep. My Desktop computer is from 2009 and runs Linux.Being a poorfag keeps me safe from the surveillance Jew.
>>534041652So he can fix his trucks indefintkely instead of submitting to nanny state faggotry you pathetic sour grapes worm.
>>534041652So that I can fix my own trucks. I wonder why you’re going to have to buy a new car in 10 years that you can’t maintenance yourself.
>>534035031Why the actual fuck would a car need to update in the first place?
>>534041702>>534041742Kinda like that boomer tech breaks down every other month eh?Meanwhile DeQuon's Altima will hit 300k miles on 2 oil changes
>>534041771to better and more accurately steal your telemetry data using 5g adjacency even when you're not using any navigation software
>>534040017Public transit is very brown. Brown is the color of shit.
>>534036000Wrong. That's just poor maintenance. OBD1 were the best.
>>534041892I always wonder what kind of nigger magic is at play to keep white base-trim nissans on the road for 200 or 300K miles throughout multiple accidentsare nissans secretly based?
It's not all cars, it's fucking Hyundai. They are the ones that do this. Toyota doesn't do this and neither does Honda. DO NOT BUY KOREAN CRAP. THEY MAKE GARBAGE CARS, NOT A SINGLE ONE IS GOOD EXCEPT MAYBE THE KIA STINGER.
>>534036000my 1993 honda just cracked 240,000 miles and all it's needed are easily replaceable parts that i can get on ebay for cheap
>>534041771>software patch because some dumb app doesn't display perfectly when being streamed from an android usba port alongside new statistics(tracking) gathering It's honestly all so tiresome
>>534034903Hey look, it's restricting freedom of movement automatically which is what the electric car push was all about, thank god they destroyed the used car market with cash for clunkers so you are going to be forced to get these soon.
>>534042037They will.It's called competitive advantage and it must be maintained. It's the same reason they all have the same features and all new cars look like a babys shoe.
>>534035488>car parked in the same place every night so they already know where you live>when buying the fucking car you have to provide this information to them as wellWhy are yuros so stupid?
This is why I spend $2k to get my transmission rebuilt on my 2010 car. This is why I do as many of the repairs by myself that I can't. This shit is fucking bonkers and I will never ever want to own a modern car.
>>534041998>the only reason you don't see any car on the road made before 1995 is uhhh>Hmm>Ehh>Oh yeah every person who ever owned a car from 1995-2020 just didn't do maintenanceSure thing retard
>>534042042240,000 is still a baby for one of those Honda's. That's legendary. Got a 2006 jeep with 230,000. Trying to squeeze out what I can. These newer cars are horrible.
>>534042198Good. We shouldn't be forced to buy these new electric slopboxes.
>>534042042Turns out when you literally just don't drive a car, it doesn't need much
>>534041892Boomers are retarded cause when they do their 1000 miles a year and it only breaks down every other month they says it’s reliable but they are just deluded by shitbox chebys
>>534041446As a White man, this hurts me. We could've had a future where drunk spic illegals with no insurance weren't allowed to use the road with us autopilot using White people, but NOOOOOOOOO!!!! You chuds just jad to ruin it with your stupid bullshit. >durr I don't wanna cumpoootor in muh car>daggum gubment shuttin down muh car >OnStar has been in cars since 1996 btw We could've had autopilot only roads where illegal spics, jeets, and niggers aren't allowed to openly kill White people and get away with it. You guys ruined it. It will still happen. Its just that it will take forever now.
>>534041771patch the computer, of courseany mathematical state machine that accepts input, processes it, and returns output can always be hacked, mathematically proven by Alan Turingfurthermore, no computer can look ahead and automatically avoid such hacks, because those systems require processing input and can be hacked toothe only way to reduce the chance of your car getting hacked anywhere below "inevitable" is to keep moving things around with software patches so hackers have to start all over designing their specialized hacking inputs faster than they can develop themideally a computer should never be in control of anything more important than your radio/mp3 player, but unfortunately that's not the world we live in
>>534041892Just wait and see what happens in the next few decades. Imagine not understanding cash for clunkers was an intentional move to take reliable affordable vehicles off the road; these older cars taught younger generations how to maintain their own technology and learn more about mechanical devices.
>>534036000>Literally any car made today will be 10x as reliable as those 80's/90's junkersCars peaked somewhere between 1985 and 2000. My 40 year old Mercedes will outlast today's turbo charged shitboxes.
>>534042322>Boomers are retarded>That's why I exclusively drive trucks designed and built by them
>>534034946No, since the car company can afford more expensive jews than he can.
>>534042227Retard, do you not understand any economics? They were cheap and had high turnover, better parts availability. You could buy a car for $500 in the early 2000s still. It's because they were so cheap, people thought of them disposable. More supply than demand and lower prices tend to do this.Otherwise it's poor maintenance.Enjoy your electric slopshow and subscription heated seats, fag.
Not my problem
>>534042435>subscription heated seatswe don't have those IN GERMANY
>>534035500If that's the case just don't have a remote access point that can connect to the car's control system
>>534042415Pretty good nowadays. I keep shitboxes for the close piddling around stuff
>>534042435>cars were disposable in the 1990's!>But not the 2000's>that's why people disposed of them in the 2000'sI hate zoomers so goddamn much. Not one of you can string together a thought.
>>534035720>implying the cars computer doesn't have the OTA system flagged as a critical functionlmao if you break that chip in modern cars it probably puts the car in limp mode or locks it down completely.
Couldn't be me, my Mazda is so low-tech you can accidentally disconnect a vacuum hose and it wouldn't even trigger the check engine light despite running on two cylinders (don't ask how I know), and the throttle is controlled with a wire.
>>534034903it says do not drive it doesn't say you cant
>>534042373Maybe the car shouldn't have any USB ports, drive-by-wire, wifi connections, or programmable memory?Now the cost of a "hack" is that my sensors don't report properly.
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>>534037192Lmfao
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>>534037985>>534038673Some years ago a dude in Brazil got disappeared together with the mechanics that converted the dude's engine into a "water powered engine", performing the process of hydrolisis IN THE CAR and using the hydrogen as fuel.Motherfucker was refuelling his car with a glass of water, then after 2 years of the dude being missing, videos started flooding Youtube over how it wasnt feasible and or fake.
>>534035170That's true. What if he had to urgently drive to the hospital or something? Seems like the car actually drives but doesn't let you do all the shit that never existed in cars before anyway.
>>534034903Why not just use a hammer to break the screen out?
>>534037985>>534038673>>534044727You can already run a Honda Civic off vegetable oil if you want to. They don't allow it though because Jews.I'm surprised Scotty Kilmer didn't get killed for building the one he did.
>>534044887I worked overnights at a research lab with animals once. There was a huge sump I had to check with a ladder. My phone would do random updates where it would tell you to fuck off, tough shit you want to use it. I often imagined what would have happened I fell off that ladder at 2am and couldn't call an ambulance because of the fucking updates.After that I just stopped checking the sump and told everyone fuck you.
>>534037941>205, 106, 306Kings of handling
>>534044727Fake and gay. Cracking hydrogen gas requires more energy than you get from burning the gas as fuel, water is extremely stable. These are always fake scams where the energy is actually coming from some external battery or other source.>t. engineer
>>534043157that would be great, yesunfortunately your manufacturer feels entitled to your data 24/7, especially anything you're using your car for, and even if they didn't the police will force them to collect the data and send it to them anyway without bothering with a search warrant
>>534034903My haval f7 (2025) is updated only on a flash drive.
>>534045523it's amazing how many people think they can break the laws of thermodynamics if they can just add more rounding errors by adding more processing steps>yeah well what if all the electricity comes from clean renewable sources like windmills and solar cells? CHECKMATE, ENGINEERS!
>>534035500> the remote-control functionyou watch too many movies
>>534036665>The Slate has a projected range of 150 miles, 240 with an updated battery packyeah no, if they can't make it travel as far as my current pickup (400mi) then I don't want one. I will admit it's a super cool design and how cars should be customizable across the board, but since I travel to work sites a lot, this isn't for me
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>>534045863It's 2026, you can ask ChatGPT to tell you how computers work.
>>534045863Porsche
>>534035235>be poor like menah.
>>534035488Anything with a gps, including any modern phone already knows that, it just calculates in based on your position and the most time spent there over a period of time.
>>534036134>the second the factory warranty is over.No, the second you sign your name on the title and it now has a previous owner, regardless of miles.
People want buttons.Touch glass?You need to touch grass, nigga.
>>534034903I will drive old Japanese combustion engine cars until the end of my life.
>>534036452Just bought a garage kept 1995 Miata this week from a seller near Ottawa. But yes you're right, well kept 90's vehicles are gradually becoming more rare every year. I jumped on it as soon as it came up.
>>534037278Car manufacturers should bring their 2 door hot hatches to the north american market. Why no GR Yaris for us?>>534037326You're preaching the truth. Spread the word.>>534041998>OBD1I see you're also a man of culture. 95 Miata was the last year they had OBD1. Lucky me (:
>>534040316Lawmakers are forcing people to use these godawful things and there's nothing people can do about it.
>>534034903Jews are right about the goyimt. proud owner of a 15 year old shitbox without even a parking camera
>>534034903My 2014 BMW is not a shit bucket at all. I don't drive it 6 months of the year and it sits in my garage. Has some exterior dings but is otherwise like new. Just had shocks replaced and some fluid changes.Rented a 2023 BMW and did not like it.
>>534049327>nothing people can do about itThey can buy old cars and drive those. A well maintained 2026 will be good for 25 years.
>>534034903>tfw own 15 year old mb and don't plan on that changing anytime soonthe only remote access i have to worry about is whatever the hell they used to take out hastings, but that aside it's a normal automobile
>>534034903I guess I'll need to add "Will start inside a Faraday Cage" as a needed feature for new car purchases.
Car frames don't even have any personality or unique frames these days.Everything looks like shit.
The solution is a purely mechanical car with manual steering, no ecu or even a fuel injector.
>>534035167INTERIOR CROCODILE ALLIGATOR
>>534034903I'm like 98% sure you can turn automatic updates off, just like you can in every single electronic device I've interacted with in my life. While it sucks it's most of the time on by default, you should already be aware of this and it's kinda on you being technologically illiterate.
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>>534034903>owning a post 00's carGod bless my '04 Mazda3 and '08 Charger. I will never use (((modern))) cars, and I got damn sure will never use electric. If the engine doesn't roar, it's for fags.
>>534035167THE-ATE-UH
>>534045863This is what "automatic updates" literally is.
>>534034946>how much time did we steal from you? Oh 1 hour of your precious time? here's 10 bucks, keep the change.
>>534045796what if all the electricity comes from dead plant and bacteria cells stored in the earth's crust? it's not like earth ever gets a shortage of dead bodies to recycle
>>534050987The issue is getting your hands into one that isn't completely ran through. My rule in cars is nothing newer than -95 and it's increasingly harder to find ones that are economically feasible to get into street legal shape.
>>534047317Buying new cars is basically financial suicide.
>>534052494How? They aren’t even a lot of money
>>534034903not my problem driving car that is almost 30 years old. Also swapped mys os to linux :D
>>5340524949,999/10,000 times buying a brand new car is truly a retarded financial decision. Even if you have the money to blow the immediate depreciation is brutal. The exceptions are those few and far between limited edition models that get a wait list and only go up in value after the sale. Ford Focus RS 2018 is an example.
>>534051752>>534051170>turn off automatic updates>manually update or dealer updates>automatic updates turned back onSonos fucked me twice with updates that ruined my devices.One jeet coded network update that made my speakers lose connectivity on my home network.Then they removed the service I used for radio (radio.net).Also they made nfs and other older network share protocols like smb not work. So you needed a brand new NAS to stream mp3s with smb 4.0 or whatever.Fuck software updates on a car nigga.
>>534052288the worst part? richtards are nostalgiafags buying up older cars for astronomical prices "just because" and thus fakingly inflating prices and not letting NORMAL people buy the mentioned cars for REAL value. not only that but these fags NEVER drive them and store 90% of the time inside just to be garage queen, whereas i would drive them daily. older bmws and mercedes i look at you. you NEVER see them being driven daily, they just sit and collect dust
