>Socialised medicine bad
>>534036152> Your Cancer operation will be in 24 months> Have you considered assisted suicide?
>takes 50% of your income to finance the "free" NHSSocialism only works in all h'white countries.
>>534036152Hasn't the NHS been severely underfunded for years due to all the freeloaders and constantly on the verge of collapsing?
>>534036152The bill is the punishment.
>>534036152Socialized medicine always leads to death. Look at my country.
>>534036351>>534036601nuanceless 2d brained mental niggers>>534036152socialized medicine is bad without socialized industriesbecause otherwise its a netto drain on the budget>inb4 commieeuropean powers at the peak of their power possessed nationalized, or semi nationalized industries.for example: germany's energy was nationalized until 2007since then theyre in a slow decline because they imposed the "private interest" tax on their whole industry
>>534036152Unlike people in the UK she can take her white baby to a white doctor and live around white people
She had a baby? Adorbs
>>534036152I don't know, loads of kids have been dying in hospitals lately.Perhaps YOUR baby is free, but that means the soul price is paid by another parent.
>>534036855lol. lmao evenusa is a brown countryits official nowyoure also a corporate fucking slavegetting taxed for years after you emigrate etcfuck your shithole countryeverything you say is cope
>>534036351this argument is always silly because private healthcare exists in the uk too, and it's cheaper than in america, if you really want to get treatment for a non life threatening problem (cancer treatment in the uk is quick btw) then you can just pay less than in america to get it treated, while you don't have to worry about the costs of childbirth or life threatening ailments because they're free and quick>uh uh uh nothing is free uh uh you pay taxes and retarded, amerimutts pay taxes too, the government spends billions of it on healthcare, and yet they receive no services in return, muttoids pay 3 times just to get fucked in the ass by jews
>>534036152>its free!>ok its not free and we've hidden the costs underneath a massive pile of paper and that allows us to inflate what we're paid for these things and you'll just never see the cost because you just pay your taxes without question otherwise we send the paddywagon for you
>>534036601Who is taxed 50% of their income in the UK?
>>5340371352 billion dollars that you paid in taxes was spent on healthcare, where did it go mutt?>uh uh you pay taxes and you get free healthcare from those taxesyou also pay taxes and you get no free healthcare, stupid nigger goycattle
>>534037116muttniggers pay ~30% federal tax anyways15% from their pockets, directly15% paid by their employer as employee taxso that muttniggers have the impression they have itb etter than eurosthey dont.on top of that theres also state taxand they end up paying the same as eurosfor fuck all in return
>>534036152How do two men have a baby?
>>534037215they just have their goycattle muttnigger mantra that "it's not free because you pay taxes!!!" as if the muttniggers didn't pay taxes, and then their government spends 2 billion dollars on healthcare, and they get nothing for it, that's why everyone's making fun of them and say that their system is trash, but the muttnigger goycattle always defaults back to his cope mantra "but it's not free ... it's not free ..."
>>534036152>Sorry guvnah but mohhemet and mohummid and mehmet and their 28 wives need to have kids first>What's that? Contractions? Sorry no open slots for the next three weeks, can it wait?
>>534037211It goes to pay for the spic-nig cycle newfag. You think anyone but white men pay for healthcare in the usa???
>>534037197Students with plan 2 loans earning more than 50k per year.
>>534037348and white people shouldn't get any of it because ... that's communism? interesting how white people caring for white people is communism, while white people coddling niggers is peak capitalism
>>534036152>women lying on the internetitemized bill and insurance.insurance legally covers children.You are expected to hit the deductible at 4k dollars average.you will pay less for this than the british faggots who pay 1800 dollars yearly and aren't even having children.lurk moar before posting newfag.
>>534037473Nobody should get any of it. No work no Healthcare, no pussy, no housing, no food. Say no to supporting low iq retards (like yourself) and browns (and women).
>>534036152Correct
>>534037335its normal for themthey have been brainwashed into supporting their corposask chat gpt about the ifnluence of american industrialists on the social contract, specifically educationits gonna shit out a whole essay for you
>>534037475Lop how much fo you think insurance premiums are here?
>>534036152How the fuck did that troon swimmer get a baby?
>>534036152If somebody sends you QR codes for random payments, it's probably a scammerNot like most people would even bother checking
>>534037211I dont care that you can have socialized medicine pay to shave your back in your countryit is not a power the US Federal Government possesseshard and fast stop right therewe have an amendment process, but the fucks trying to push socialized medicine know how unpopular it is, so they never even tried to do it the real waysame with social security when they enacted it, they never even tried to make an amendment for it because they knew it would never pass that stringent test
>>534036601wait so amerimutts do no pay taxes at all??
Cost of having a baby at home is nil in America too. Checkmate rNHS.
>>534037749I dont know, I have a good employer that covers 100% of itAND pays me well on top of it
>>534037116>private healthcare exists in the uk too, and it's cheaper than in america, if you really want to get treatment for a non life threatening problem (cancer treatment in the uk is quick btw) then you can just pay less than in america to get it treatedUntil the judge says nope, your baby isn't worth saving.>LONDON (AP) — A judge at Britain’s High Court ruled Wednesday that life support for a terminally ill 8-month-old baby should be withdrawn in a hospice or hospital, despite efforts by the infant’s parents and the Italian government to transport her to Italy for further treatment.Indi Gregory
Most people in the US have free healthcare, it's just the whites that pay
>>534037749I pay 79 a month with max 4k out of pocket, and my employer will match 1k a year into a health savings account, which currently sits at around 10k. The government also takes 1.5% of my earnings so medicare can pay for old people, niggers, and parents who don't take care of the children they made.
>>534036601>>534036152Why do you tell lies on the internet?In the US, what taxes do you pay from your wage?
>>534038532Roughly half of that.
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>>534038655>>534038655Interesting, I can see it actually depends on which state you live in.Does that cover your health insurance, do you have to pay other bills?My house is worth over £300k, or monthly council tax is around £200pm. Both council tax and tax on wages cover, NHS, Fire, Police, local services, waste, maintenance etc...
>>534037925>it's unpopular!!!! because uhhh .... jews said it's unpopular, or something ...worthless goycattle nigger lmao this is why everyone is laughing at you
>>534038989Another 6% for social security payroll tax, another 1.5% for Medicare tax, some states have income tax, then a few counties and even cities have more income tax.
>>534036351Do you not have private hospitals in Britain? Even in this shithole there is state and private healthcare at the same time. If you're not a poorfag, you can just go full private. But unlike in America, where it seems like not being the poorest subhuman disqualifies you from state healthcare, you can still use state healthcare like everyone else.
>>534036152Do Europeans not comprehend the concept of taxes? Like they pay £16,000 in taxes and say their services are free. Do Europeans lack object permanence? Do they understand they’re still paying for it just through a longer method? Do they just not teach the concept of taxes in their schools? It’s genuinely mindboggling
>>534038064>oh yeah what about this extremely fringe case of a rare disease where doctors argue about how the last few days of a baby who's gonna die soon should be spentpeak nigger goycattle moment, hope you get clocked by a nigger today, and this would've bankrupted the baby's parents in muttmerica niggerstain btw
Usa could have free healthcare with zero tax increase if they didnt send that money to israel every year ( israel healthcare is free btw)
>>534036152yeah but who would pay for socialized medicine? btw we have to engage in deficit spending and build the ball room and bomb iran -- WE HAVE TO, OKAY!!!!
>>534036952>”it’s not a white majority nation because only 58% of the population is non Hispanic white”That’s literally a majority. Why is your AI retarded?
Socialized medicine works provided it's for locals who do not abuse the system.Whoops sorry. Guess you're screwed with all those immigrants and niggers.
>>534039697>why dont you understand they take a few thousand per year to pay for what cost me half a millions plus tips??????
>>534039697uh oh here is another nigger goycattle! read this faggot LMAO>>534037211>>534037335low iq muttnigger can't comprehend that you pay taxes too for healthcare, except you get nothing, dumb fat nigger lmaaoooooooooo just keep repeating your goycattle mantra
>>534038989Our federal tax rate was posted here and its a progressive tax rate >>534038734We are taxed out the ass in other ways such as gas and sin taxes, property taxes (there are ways to reduce it), sales tax etc. However there are states with zero state income tax. There are tax loopholes here that people who start earning more should take advantage of. Easy ones like 401k and more difficult ones like homestead/farm exemptions. The key to good health c are in the usa is one of these:>1. Dont pay. Go to the ER only. Ruin your credit>2. Be poor and brown and everything is free anyway>3. Find a good employer, be educated enough to have a high income and your premiums and coverage will be excellent.
>>534038989Healthcare is your responsibility, not the taxpayers. We have no income tax in this state. Property tax is 1.8% of the value of my home, or roughly $1,000 a year for most. Our taxes cover public services like police, fire and road maintenance.
>>534039827Even through the socialized healthcare it costs you thousands a year?! What the fuck, I pay like $20 a month and everything is covered for me. Why does your government hate you?
>>534036351My brother in law got a tumor removed not even 2 weeks after being diagnosed. State hospital, zero fees. Our hospitals are much worse than yours.Stop letting indians, arabs and jews to take over your country, those long waits are artificially manufactured with the very purpose of creating distrust in universal healthcare, so jews can scrap it and implement their private kike autism.They keep their universal healthcare funded by goyim in Israel, while you will go in debt for any visit to the hospital.
>Socialized medicineThat's just a jew hospital throwing random fees at you, what does that have to do with "socialized medicine"?
>>534036152> freeNever had a job with a tax receipt, eh?
>>534039925>Property tax is 1.8% of the value of my home, or roughly $1,000 a year for most.conservative IQ hard at work.
>>534039611>>534039925So it's not a blanket tax, live in California pay more tax, live in Alabama pay less?Does this make the likes of the midwest a better place to stay?So what sort of cost per month is health insurance? How much are prescriptions per refill?I live in Scotland, our prescriptions are free at point of refill, I think England have to pay £9.90 per prescription, though I think if you are poor it is free at point of refill
>>534037964They pay much more, but because they are doing it themselves instead of being detracted automatically by the state, they feel a sense of superiority.Then there's muh "i'm not paying for the healthcare of niggers", forgetting that their taxes pay gibs for niggers, which they use for jewish private healthcare, which uses their money too when a nigger needs help, and they end up paying twice for nigger healthcare. What's even funnier, jews priviledge niggers over whites, therefore, niggers will get their healthcare paid off more often than whites anyway.
>>534036152>Riley GainesTrump shit talked her Infront of the entire world after sucking his cock for years and what does she do? She runs defense for him like all right wing cultists... Not only does she have no self respect and is a right wing grifter, she is a great example of cuckservatives. These retards keep supporting/voting against their best interests.
>>534037116No it isn't you fucking spastic lmao
>>534040246Not a blanket tax country wide for total taxes which is why everyone is fleeing liberal states and cities. Insurance prices vary wildly by coverage, employer and family size. Rx refills vary wildly by the coverage you have and the Rx you are filling.
>being born in a hospital >tfwI was born in a house.
>>534036351Odd, I thought the NHS would have 350 Trillion pounds more each minute thanks to glorious Brexit.Also: The less Tax money goes to Israel, the more you can use for the benefit of a stable public healthcare system. This of course applies most strongly to the US.
>>534040246>So what sort of cost per month is health insurance? How much are prescriptions per refill?$150/mo if you're single, $500/mo if you have a family plan. that's what the employee pays. the employer pays $20-30k a year per employee. the quality of the insurance varies from job to job, because each employer will purchase a custom plan from an insurer. but in general, to use insurance you have to pay the first $2-5k out of pocket (deductible) and then a percent of the bill up to an annual maximum (out of pocket max.) the annual maximum averages $8-10k a year and it's based on calendar year. this means people have to strategically obey the calendar. if you need $20k of medical care and you have the ability to schedule it, you get it all done within 1 calendar year because it will only cost you $10k. if you stretch it across 2 calendar years it will cost you $20k.i can't easily answer prescription costs. if it's on the PBM formulary it might be cheap. it might not be cheap. it might not even be on the formulary, which means you pay full price.
>Cost of having baby in the UK on the NHS is £0Yeah, but 1 in however many babies are accidentally beheaded by incompetent Indian doctors during birth.
>>534036152I’m so sick of losers and Jews and mud people
>>534040639>Yeah, but 1 in however many babies are accidentally beheaded by incompetent Indian doctors during birth.As opposed to 1 in 1 male babies getting their foreskin chopped off in the US.
Socialised healthcare is terrible because you can just rotate in a fresh stock of jeets to replaced white people anyway. Why should the wealthy fund healthcare for everyone, even though they dodge taxes with wealth and pay and equivalent amount when they don't? Think of the Jews, their state subsidised private healthcare only providing local support to other Jews wouldn't be affected so fuck the goy
>>534040600The brits thought it would be a good idea to import half of India and Pakistan after Brexit.
>>534039549you dumb fuck, if it were so popular then it would have been done as an amendment instead of them doing obamacare under color of lawreminder they DID NOT EVEN TRY to make an amendment for obamacare despite additional federal powers literally being part and parcel of obamacarewhy do you support governments just ignoring rules and limitations set upon them and not even attempting to get around them in anything resembling a lawful manner?
>>534036152I had to wait two years to get my knee checked by a specialist and after 2 years the doctor who apparently said he put me on the waiting list never actually did. There is no such thing as s free healthcare system.
>>534040723>comparing brainwashed parents in the US to jeets being disgusting creatures who scammed their way into the NHS because they’re heckin BAMES To the streets of New Delhi you shall be sent.
>>534038532Damn, that ukp 50k-125k at 40% is punishing.
>>534040246like 10-12 years ago one of my coworkers moved from Boston to Florida and he said it was the same as if he magically gave himself a $20k raise between taxes and housing price difference
>>534038489who do you think is paying the rest of your premium, and why don't you think that this means that you're indirectly paying it?
>>534041189because he's retarded and doesn't understand how health insurance works.
>>534036152All white women with tattoos and fake fingernails should be surrendered to the niggers.
>>534036152The main argument showing socialised healthcare works, is the fact that Israel has it - and pays for it using the billions that America sends to them every year,
>pay 50% income tax for a 16 month waitwhy do niggers insist this shit isn't brokenonly nordic countries with proto-ethnostates and high levels of personal accountability can even get close
>>534041287he actually knows a lot more than the average person, so I'm surprised that this is the place he got tripped up.
>>534041189The employer is obviously paying the rest of the premium, and if I decline insurance I don’t get the remainder as pay.
>>534041819right, but the market rate for your wage (and the way your employer thinks about your cost to them) is based on the salary/wage + benefits + payroll tax etc.
>>534036152its literally on the brink of collapsing and the treatment is sub par compared to private healthcare but yeah its better than nothing if youre into that sort of thing
>>534042001Yes. The employer is also paying payroll tax and the same amount of SS tax for me that I pay, but I don’t say I am taxed at those combined rates. Maybe I should though.
>>534040969>brits thoughtthe majority of brits didnt think anything of the sort, it was forced upon us. just like the intentional failure to stop economic migrants arriving on dinghies
>>534042001Ok, double replying… it was disingenuous to claim the cost of my health care while omitting the employer share. Total cost is total cost. If they just directly paid me more to cover the total cost of plan I would use that number as the cost.
>>534041408embedding and hiding all the extra costs is part of the design so as to strip more money away from the plebes
>>534036651Yes, don't listen to britbongs who defend 'muh nhs' they are either deluded boomers or clueless millenials.The truth is the NHS is largely privatised; many GPs are 'locums' i.e third party contractors who charge the NHS enormous sums, I have personally seen some paid 50k a WEEK for basic consulting. I've seen these overgrown and overpaid midwits shit and piss their pants (not literally) when asked to perform surgeries on public holidays. That's before you get into building construction, maintenance, waste disposal etc. It is held together by the collective delusion of old boomers and the millennial women who do bullshit jobs that have fuck all to do with actual healthcare or admin.It is a sacred cow that is now starting to shit in the home of the people who have been told to worship it.Also the cancer treatment guidelines are worse than many third world countries.
>>534036818>germany's energy was nationalized until 2007wat?
>>534044493process that started in 1994 and finalized in 2007 with the liberalization of the german gaz marketlook it upthen compare with the decline of export volumes of germany
>>534036152anudder migger grifter feigning ignorance to make discourse impossible as if this isnt the exact kind of system her miggerkike party fights for tooth and nail.
>>534043757more migger lies from privatization kikes. the cure for your kind used to be burning at the stake
>>534041819>the kikes steal money from me and thats ok cos thats how my daddy used to suck jew cock and his daddy before him, subservient goyism and cumguzzling runs in the family
>>534045328Here’s your (you), faggot. Keep up the good work.
>>534036152YOU DON"T HAVE TO PAY FOR A FORMIDIBLE MILITARYThe American taxpayer essentially pays for your "free healthcare".
