The ultimate redpill reading list would cover all these subjects...>Metaphysics>Epistemology>Ethics>Politics>AestheticsWhat books should be included /pol/?
>>534036394noneknowledge obtained via divine revelation collective unconscious tapping onlybooks are refuse from someone elses mind
>>534036394My personal picks would be...>MetaphysicsThe Talmud>EpistemologyWhy Trust Science? - Naomi Oreskes>EthicsHow to Be an Antiracist - Ibram X. Kendi>PoliticsThe Communist Manifesto - Karl Marx>AestheticsEveryone Poops - Tarō Gomi
>>534036546But how would you justify that position to someone that doesn't agree? What books would you recommend they read in order to convince them?
>>534036938Who would waste their time showing the way to the unenlightened? If they can't perceive nuance and complexity with raw intuitive cognition alone then they are cattle and should be forgotten.
>>534036394>politicsLeviathan by Thomas Hobbes
>>534037219Wow an actual book recommendation. I'm surprised anyone here reads.
>>534037217My divine intuition is that you're just a self-aggrandizing pseud with a god complex.
Camp of the saints
>>534037547Would you class that as Politics?
>>534037574obviously its not any kind of text book or anything but it certainly includes a few of your categories in a fun and accessible format.
>>534037665I would say Politics. Although an argument could be made for classing it under Aesthetics.
>>534037713Ethics too.
>>534037806If it's just about what we should do on a mass scale, in this case deporting all the pajeets, then it's political and not ethical. If the book talks about personal conduct, then it can be classed as ethical.
>>534037949ethics isn't limited to what a single person should do. it applies to groups too and you could say that politics is downstream from ethics. but the book contains both
>>534036394Republic by Plato.The Bible with ApocryphaCity of God by Augustine Leviathan by HobbsThat should get you primed and ready for understanding the western Canon.
>>534038318Politics is the branch of ethics that is about what the government ought to do. And since many of these books have overlapping subjects, they should be classed according to the central subject it deals with. In the case of Camp of the Saints, I believe the central subject is politics.
>>534038894So I'd assume that the Bible goes in metaphysics. Republic and Leviathan go in Politics. I'm not sure where to put City of God.
>>534036938>justify your position to someone who doesnt agreealready misunderstanding the map, the terrain, and the conditionsyou dont “convince” someone, that activates their defensesyou simply demonstrate superior conductand they viscerally respond
>>534039143>you simply demonstrate superior conduct and they viscerally respondSounds like a round about way of convincing them.
>>534039052i guess if you simply must have it in one category only then sure, but im not sure if theres a reason to so confine it.
>>534039201it circumvents their emotional defenses that cognition would trigger with wordsyou go straight for the limbic system
>>534036394Look on the archives for your exact thread being posted several times over the past years and look at the recommendations there. 4chan hasn't been ephemeral in nature for decades now.
>>534039203Well I'm thinking of the list like a book chart. It's bad design to include the same book multiple times under different categories.
>>534039292Go on 4plebs and prove it, faggot. You can't because you're lying.
>>534036394>MetaphysicsBhagavad-gita as it is>EpistemologyEnquiry Concerning Human Understandin>EthicsThe Nicomachean Ethics>AestheticsArt and Its SignificanceAnd read Max Stirner! You fucks wouldn't fall for shit so often.
>>534039291But you need to adequately express what your worldview is in detail. Otherwise you get retards with redpill Tourettes who are unable to defend *your* ideas when put under examination.
>>534039375fair enough, its your show
>>534039375Those aren't serious books. Just airport paperback drivel.
>>534040005It was the first humorous example I could find.
>>534036394Aquinas' Summa Theologica is the essential metaphysical framework. Fr Garrigou-Lagrange's interpretation in "Reality" is optimal.
>>534039597people committed to misunderstanding for whatever reason are “beyond reasonability”when i was in rehab i had a phrase“you cant ‘reason’ with a pibull”because there were people in there who could never be assuaged with wordsit would inflame themso there is a type of communication which bypasses this limitand is therefore far more effectivein the realm of “influence”
>>534040291You can't communicate a philosophy purely through influence techniques. And any attempt to do so results in fiat believers with redpill Tourettes.
>>534039407You recognized the central point of my post, you even directly called out the archive by name, but you won't bother to just research it for yourself? >spoonfeed me!How fucking obnoxious.
>>534040753You're the one that made the claim, it's your job, not mine, to prove your point. If you're unwilling to provide evidence, you can be dismissed without evidence.
>>534040850I ain't readin' that but that's cool or sorry that happened
>>534036394jacques ellulhofferlippmannand the guy who created eggs and bacon breakfast and "lithuania"
>>534040907>Incoherent bot post.If you are a real human being, kys.
>>534040948Ellul and lippmann are probably political. I'm not sure about Hoffer.
>>534036394Robert Greene
>>534041708I guessing ethics for your average temu sociopath.
>>534039130Republic is fundamentally about metaphysics. City of God, Republic, and the Bible are all rooted in reality being derived from Logos. Western ethics and politics are derivative of these works.
>>534040478>what is the collective unconsciousi dont have to use words which trigger people’s defensesgo straight to the source of influencecollective unconscious limbic system visceral experiencewhy should i “transmit” my philosophy with paltry languagewhen the receiver will corrupt the signal?
>>534036394>Metaphysics Are gay>Epistemology Kant>Ethics Pick some greeks>Politics Republic>Aesthetics Clavicular bible
The golden bough
>>534036546The collective unconscious is definitionally accessible to other minds. Do you think you can apprehend its vastness through one alone?
>>534036761You like fiction. I like sources and based authors who made something of their lifes like killing jews irl.
>>534043218>I like sources and based authors who made something of their lifes like killing jews irl.Like whom?
>>534041510it's all you really need to read to shed them chains and whatnotif you are capablenot all are
>>534042855i dont think its incumbent on “me” to do anythingi am simply a part of a larger unfolding processits not about “my mind” as if we are not all connectedin an interdependent fashionits like a giant organism or mega mind if you will
>>534036394the foundations of the 19th century by houston steward chamberlain will tell you essentially everything you need to know. yes, you do have to read the whole thing, and you’d be surprised how many libraries still have it tucked away in the back shelves, forgotten and untouched for decades.
>>534044543*stewart
>>534044377You're not making my job easy by just listing the last names of some authors who speak about different subjects in different books.
>>534044543I'm guessing you'd class FotNC as Metaphysics?
>>534042683>calls metaphysics gay and then recommends reading Republic.Lol you never read Republic
Society of the Spectacle by Guy Debord(?) and perhaps its more modern equivalent Simulacra and Simulation by Jean Baudrillard, but I prefer the former
>>534045581Sure, though it’s quite dense and covers a lot of ground, not just metaphysics.https://ia601805.us.archive.org/17/items/the-foundations-of-the-nineteenth-century-vol-1-housten-stewart-chamberlain/The%20Foundations%20Of%20The%20Nineteenth%20Century%20Vol%201%20-%20Housten%20Stewart%20Chamberlain.pdf
>>534046128What would you categorize it under then?
>>534044596maybe it's not for you thennot all are supposed to leave the matrix
>>534046194it’s a sociological theory of everything from ancient Greece and Rome leading up to the year 1900, underpinned by the understanding that race is in fact real. Categorize it how you wish, I don’t think it fits cleanly under any particular label.
>>534036546>refuseAmericans are truly the most retarded species on this planet.
>>534046367>underpinned by the understanding that race is in fact real.That is a metaphysical claim.
>>534036938>How would you convince someone...Overwhelming force
>>534046504its a factual, biological and medically supported claim
>>534046537So the ethics of Might Is Right by Ragnar Redbeard?
>>534046655When I'm talking about metaphysics I'm not talking about woo woo bullshit. Something is metaphysical if it pertains to reality as such, something that broadly speaking applies to the whole of reality. When you say that history has a direction and that direction is dictated by the principle of race, that is metaphysics.
>>534036394>POL TO REEREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>534047028im not sure if its a principle of race....just the physical and observable difference of behavior between differing races. but i know that metaphysics does have wider and narrower definitions.
>>534047908I'm talking about what Houston Stewart Chamberlain believed. And whether his book could be categorized as metaphysics.
>>534047308https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rzG88cdcsU
>>534048142>underpinned by the understanding that race is in fact real.im not sure what he believed beyond the one statement from the other anon " underpinned by the understanding that race is in fact real."
>>534048408I know he was very influential on Hitler's Weltanschauung. And I think it's where Hitler got his racial theory of history from.
>>534048566yeah ok. guess it just depends how you want to view metaphysics because the effect of racial differences just seems, to me, to be a directly observable physical fact like difference in climate or geography. its not an abstract concept.
