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They're three times as selfish as Biden voters
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define moral
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incel or liberal race mixer
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Bluefags arguments boil down to
>if I dont press blue someone else will
>b but what if retards and kids press blue
>we are the arbiters of what's moral and sympathetic
> you're creating a world of psychopaths
>pushing red is the same as pulling the trigger of the gun bluetards out up to their own heads
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>>534038335
It is because you are retarded. If everyone presses the red button, everyone survives.
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>>534038335
morality is relative
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>>534038684
What about babies and little kids huh?
All you need is 50% to vote blue and everyone lives. You need 100% to vote red for everyone to live.
You're just a selfish chud
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>>534038335
Red button is the logical choice.
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>>534038335
Its immoral to not press red and tell everyone else to do so.
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>>534038335
Wait, is this the new "hypothetical breakfast" IQ test?
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>>534038335
Imagine pressing the (((blue))) button.
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>>534038605
I love how everyone simply agreeing on one button or another would produce an identical result but of course that will never happen
Really ties up the comedy of the situation with a nice bow
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>>534039005
I'm pressing the (((blue))) button tonight.
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>>534038335
>ignore Epstein for YEARS after his death when it’s all your “faves” implicated
>only care years later when Trump runs again, make it all about him
What did the “party of morality” mean by this??
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>>534038605
I dunno you're making that blue button sound awfully fun
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>>534038335
That is a retarded test as red is objectively the correct choice as it will kill nobody unless they choose to kill themselves by pressing blue for literally no reason.
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>>534038335
All voaters are objectively immoral.
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>>534039168
It's not that "ignored" Epstein.
It's that Israel runs both parties.
Get off the right-left shit.
Parties and how they frame their stance on issues are only there bifurcate as close to 50/50 the entire US population.
At this point, only shills and people in serious denial are stumping for a party like voting will fix anything.
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>>534038335
Red is survival based on self-interest. Blue is survival through risky altruism.
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>>534039345
Altruism, community, and cooperation are historically safer strategies.
When resources are abundent anyways.
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Imagine thinking selfishness is immoral.
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>>534038605
the red cope projecting all of their innate talmudic values onto blues is always fun to read. keep seething rednigger. blues are golden rule humans so you can't make us look bad.
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>>534038605
as a not-sure god, both of you are mentally ill retards. both arguments are sound, but only one is grounded in reality and that's blue. people will vote blue and voting red is abject genocide. you can cope if you want, but OP's pic also proves people *WILL* vote blue.
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>>534038335
Can we end this psyOp already? 100 threads is enough shilling.

There is two buttons.
If everyone chooses red nothing happens.
If a single person chooses blue everyone else who chose blue must play russian roulette.

Gay and stupid
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>>534039127
Honestly I can't fathom more than 10% voting blue if it was a real life or death thing.
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>>534039742
>pointing to a polls data when you won't have access during the real vote
Bluefags always have to bend the rules of the experiment to make an argument
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>>534039614
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Red button is the moral choice
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Psy-op to convince the masses of two false things:
>most people would vote suicide
>being rational is evil
They're brain-washing goyim for two reasons:
>to be recluted some a bunch of useless wars (the first one: UK and Argentina for the Falklands)
>to kill all the dissidents
Button-pushing id their tactic to bypass sign-tapping.
Fucking goyim, all of you.
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>>534038421
>define moral
why does /pol/ consistently fail this hypothetical?
>if you could rape and kill a baby without facing any consequences at all, would you?
>/pol/:OMG YOU WOULD BE A FOOL NOT TO DO IT, THERE IS LITERALLY NO CONSEQUENCE AND YOU ARE SAYING YOU *WOULDN'T* DO IT?!?! MY LOGIC DICTATES THAT YOU MUST DO IT, THERE SIMPLY IS NO CHOICE HERE!
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>>534040080
>to be recluted some a bunch of useless wars
to fight in a bunch of useless wars
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>>534039005
This
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>>534040178
>more cope unrelated to the experiment
Kek you keep proving my points
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>>534038335
>Trump-Trump
Vance on suicide watch rn.
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>>534038904
I think it’s less of an IQ test and more of a thought process test. It’s not like people who push blue don’t understand the concept (well maybe some don’t) it’s that they believe inherently there is a decent amount of people who will make a mistake and push blue and that it’s worthy to sacrifice yourself for these idiots
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>>534040080
Yeah ignore and slide my post you fucking glow niggers.
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>>534038335
This chart just shows Harris voters are suicidally empathetic. Their desire to care for people, no matter if they are killers or rapists or whatever, outweighs their own desire to live.

Also, selfishness is moral (Ayn Rand’s the art of selfishness contains an excellent exposition on this concept. Basically, to help others, you must love and help yourself first, to become competent, experienced, and able etc)
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>>534038335
literally not a single logical, much less moral argument for red. normies will read the squid game and understand the implication of pushing red means mass murdering good natured blues who trusted them with their fate. blues believe in the good of humanity so we're confident any sample size >2 will always result in a blue win because golden rule humans always outnumber talmudic red minorities. you lost redjews. get raped by trannies
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>>534038335
> red button everyone always survives as long as everyone presses it
> blue button no guarantee that everyone survives

No brainer. Always red. Basic game theory.
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>>534039939
>we plan on invading you
>but only if it's not too much trouble for us
>so uh
>we don't want to fight more than half of you and won't fight if that many of you tell us you're going to resist
>but if we do go to war we will kill anyone who agreed to fight
>hope you make the right decision
This is how small groups of people conquer entire continents
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>>534040007
you're retarded and lost. morally and technically. as a strict non-participant, I win.
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>>534038335
>>534038421
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>>534040534
You are basing your hubris of a blue majority on a Twitter poll. High trust society isnt about pressing a button, crossing yoir fingers and hoping for the best. High trust societies run on personal responsibility and bluetards have demonstrated none.
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>>534040534
>I'm going to imagine in my head that all red button pressers are objectively evil and not just trying to avoid the blue suicide pact button
>Therefore if you press red you will burn in eternity!
>Because everybody who presses red is a psychopath in my imaginary scenario, it would be a prison hellworld if red wins!
okay fag. but If the scenario was actually real, there's no reason everybody wouldn't press red, unless they are actually suicidal and want a quick death.
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>>534038335
Democrats voted for a pedo who abused his own daughter because they believed lies from the msm about Trump

dont talk shit to me about morals
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>>534040534
red cucks utterly btfo.
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>>534038335
why are both buttons blue? what kind of jew brain trick is this?
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>>534040601
You'll still get shit from bluetards for not pressing blue. Redchads dont care which button you do or dont press
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>>534040253
if you have to ask what's moral, you're a red. stop the jew wordplay and admit you're not pushing red to save yourself, you're pushing red to kill masses of golden rule blues.
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>>534038335
How do you retards not know the answer is red?
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>>534040674
Based Hume enjoyer.
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>>534038335
You want fear-tards to run your life? Red.
If everyone picks red, no one dies even.
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>>534041033
I already know thought policeling people to join a suicide pact isnt moral.
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>>534039785
I'm pressing the (((red))) button tonight.
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>>534040933
What a load of bs. Here is the actual truth.
If all good people press blue they will die out. I'm gonna press red just so I can carry on the spirit of good and save the universe from becoming 100% evil. I would not give them that satisfaction and eradicate myself by pressing blue. It's a trick by the devil.
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>>534038335
This has nothing to do with morals. Everyone who pushed the blue button is an idiot. Push the red button, guaranteed survival. Push the blue button chance of death. Everyone pushes the red button and everyone survives. Everyone pushes the blue button and everyone survives. This is dumb.
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>>534038335
Boring scenario, it’s more spicy if you can change your vote during the voting period and it’s public.
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>>534041033
>People who are objectively evil
Those who orchestrated the suicide button dilemma
>People who are normal and not evil
Those who press red.
>People who think they are morally superior, but actually just can't fully think out a word problem
Those who press blue
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>>534040178
I'm pressing the (((blue))) button tonight.
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>>534040534
You're convincing people to roll the dice on dying while adding arbitrary moral implications on the belief that self preservation exists. Blue advocates are literally the only ones wishing death on anyone. Red advocates would like everyone to stop being stupid and press the red button, unwilling to risk everything and everyone for the remaining retards that vote blue.

Also it's funny how a world of red voters is somehow a hellworld but a world of virtuous blues is a world where the reds need to hide from the blues for some reason. Pro tip, it's because of blue's fantasies of violence and death that they want to line up for and deal out if the chance presents itself. Blues are the only ones creating a scenario where anyone dies, and you went full mask off on the reality that a blue victory would mean the same for reds as the reverse, just with extra bureucratic steps outside of the confines of the scenario. You're a bunch of pathetic conformists. You are a vaxxie and a voluntary draftee, used by your betters and coping about it.
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>>534038335
I've been telling this for years: MIGA voters lack compassion, are selfish and are the ones who could be nicknamed "bad guys" in the political spectrum and are proud of that. However due to their low IQ they are being exploited by the grifters like Trump with "America First" slogans (aka thinking they will now live on the back of the other countries) only to be rugpulled into war in Iran for Israel.

Honestly it's all deserved and I hope for political lynching of MIGA voters after Trump is finally gone forever
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>>534038335
I like how this exposes that leftists claim to support euthanasia is complete bullshit. We have a perfect situation of people willingly killing themselves and yet they're saying you're immoral unless you stop them from doing it.
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>>534040547
I'm pressing the (((John Nash @ RAND corporation))) button tonight.
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>>534039939
blue-button-pushers
>"Let's work together"
>Establishes partnerships to achieve more than he could alone
>Emotional core: Hope
>Tolerates risk when there is benefit to himself or others
>"I don't want them to suffer like I did."
>Is defeated when deceived into trusting a Red and inevitably betrayed
>Responds poorly to coercion, uses trust and cooperation to overthrow slavers
>Tries to cultivate fellow Blues to create a community
>Willing to risk his own life for the right cause

red-button-pushers:
>"Fuck you, I got mine"
>Pretends to be a Blue while not actually contributing anything
>Emotional core: Contempt
>Pathologically risk-averse
>"I suffered so why shouldn't they?"
>Is defeated when Blues identify him and exclude him from the fruits of their labors
>Can be coerced to contribute - an ideal slave because his paranoia and selfishness prevent him from organizing a rebellion
>Tries to poison others into becoming Reds purely out of spite; knows this will eradicate the structures he depends on to survive; can't help himself
>Thinks anything with a non-zero chance of death is a "suicide cult"
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>>534041249
this
>'what if the people running it ask a child that doesn't understand the options, and the child picks blue?'
the people running the scenario are evil. Children ripped from their parents and forced to make a critical decision alone means the world has become unsalvageable anyways and they'd probably be better off dead at that point.
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Blue wins because of virtue signaling.

Actually put people in this situation or something analogous and see what happens.

Here's an experiment Elon could pull off
-If blue wins, everyone keeps their X accounts
-If red wins, people who voted red keep their account, blue voters are permabanned.

Here's an experiment anyone could pull off:
-Everyone joins by contributing a certain amount of money.
-If blue wins, everyone keeps their money and goes home with it.
-If red wins, people who voted blue lose their money, red keep theirs and the money left behind by blue is now left behind for red voters, just like blue's land and property would be in the original scenario.

Let's do that instead and watch what happens. As it is, blue voters face no real possible negative consequences for their actions. They're nig actually gambling their lives, they're in the exact opposite situation where they're gambling with their reputation and voting blue ensures they win and get to virtue signal no matter which size wins, while if red wins they can still act like they're morally better anyway without losing anything. It's the exact opposite of the scenario in the hypothetical question for blue voters.

The experiment needs to be changed to actually make blue voters risk sacrificing something if they lose.
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>>534040178
Holy projection batman.
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>>534040483
>selfishness
>"to help others"
Selfish people don't care about helping others. Randism is copium spewing drivel to make selfish greedy people feel good about themselves. In practice the "helping others" never comes.
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>>534041447
>if I dont push blue someone else will
Kek that Jewish trick works both ways kike
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>>534041447
You made a mistake in your reasoning. You assume the red button is a "kill all blue" button. But actually, the red button simply does nothing. Its not hooked up to anything. But I understand the color red is scary to you, so you would rather press the Russian roulette button instead.
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>>534041309
>Blue advocates are literally the only ones wishing death on anyone.
lmfao you lost rednigger. it's impossible to rephrase the squid game in any way to make blues look bad. these threads keep popping up because you can't stop kvetching this normie meme susses out spiritual jews like you
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>>534041632
Kek the game never puts the risk on red. The condition and risk is entirely contained and stipulated in the blue button
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>>534041632
>IF 51% OF HUMANITY PRESSES THIS BUTTON, THOSE THAT DON'T, DIE
Okay, so everybody presses this button right? Easiest dilemma ever.
>BUT WHAT ABOUT THE CHILDREN
Then the button creators are evil for putting people who can't consent/reason in front of the death button. How is that my fault?
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>>534041565
I'm pressing the (((black))) button tonight.
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>>534041632
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>>534041733
The risk on red is literally killing people deranged retard.
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>>534041841
Actually I didn't kill anybody, The hypothetical button creators did. And the people who pressed the Russian roulette button because they can't reason out a word problem have nobody but themselves to blame.
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>>534041974
>Actually, by pressing the total bluenigger death button, I didn't kill anyone
Retarded faggot.
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>>534041841
You believe that but its not true in any sense. You could replace the red button with doing nothing and you'd still find a way to scape goat others for your poor decisions like a nigger
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>>534041447
Blue-button pushers
>pathologically altruistic to the point of suicide
>emotional core: virtue signaling
>claims to want to overthrow slavers, follows the logic of a war conscript that doesnt resist the draft
>claims to want to set up a society based on peace and cooperation, secretly harbors fantasies of tracking down and punishing red-pressers on the basis of ideological masturbation like 'the paradox of tolerance'
>society of unlimited trust ripe fpr exploitation by psychopaths that will inevitably arise in future generations if not hiding among blues to begin with
>invariably a vaxxie

Red button pressers
>rational
>emotional core: Love. Self-preservation at any cost for the sake of ones own family, not taking stupid risks and risking leaving their children and spouse alone
>spiritual successor of every indivdual who pushed progress of any kind by breaking free of conformism regardless of peers' judgement

A society of reds would be fantastic company. A society of blues is what we have today.
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>>534038335
most press the red button because it's the rational choice to survive
I press the red button because it would kill many retarded cunts
we are not the same
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>>534042026
Why are you being dishonest? The red button literally says in the original word problem it does nothing.
>BUT YOU NEED TO PRESS MY SUICIDE BUTTON OR ELSE EVERYBODY ELSE WHO PRESSED THE SUICIDE BUTTON MIGHT DIE
I'm so sorry you pressed the suicide button, you should have thought harder about the problem.
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>>534041537
Based and incentive pilled.
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This is literally a RAND corp thread to get us to game out how to paint the situation for the existing US power dynamics to discourage from banding together, cooperating against the white-collar criminal glownigger power class, and to determine if you can scare people into being selfish enough to keep the system grinding regular people into dust.

Prisoners dilemma with isolation, and a mutual aid option removed. "If we isolate people, can we make them behave more selfishly?" "Can we make people think that people are more selfish than they are?"

I'm going to push the (((blue))) button tonight.
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>>534041805
>bluefag strawmaning a argument no redchad has ever made
Kek keep trying to swtich up the experiment to make an argument. It never fails to make me laugh
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>>534038335
This is what people will really do to one another..

For The Greater Good...
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>>534041447
Blue button pushers are suicidal retards, as there's no incentive for anyone to push it in the first place. If the setup was different, for example if pushing blue also got you $1000, then you can could promote the moral argument because a lot of poors would have a reason to push blue. But as the question stands, I wouldn't gamble with my life to protect fools, and it would be better for our species if the blue button dipshits were all culled.
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Fact 1: based on nearly every single poll, at least 40% of people die if red "wins"

Fact 2: nearly every red will say "good"

That's all you need to know
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>>534042169
>says in the original word problem it does nothing.
redfaggots have gone insane.
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>>534041841
>diving in front of a moving car means that the driver of the car is at fault
be a driver and not a diver and all will be well
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>>534041632
>press the suicide button. It'll fail if more than 51% press it

Stop touching the hot stove and blaming mom for warning you
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>>534042238
Correction: Bluechad correctly pointing out what you're doing but are not admitting to.
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>>534042323
this is what I keep telling people.
blue is retarded for obvious reasons, but so are red cucks because they deny the reality of the world they live in. it's a no-win scenario.
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>>534042026
That would be you. The game is peak eugenics and would solve so many problems. For instance, shitlibs and niggers.
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>>534038335
sovereign vs follower mindset
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>>534042323
Blues want people to live

Reds want people to die

Simple as
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>>534042349
yes, correct. pedestrians have right of way, not car cucks like (You).
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>>534041537
>If red wins, people who voted blue lose their money, red keep theirs and the money left behind by blue is now left behind for red voters, just like blue's land and property would be in the original scenario.
This is actually the system we have now in the US.

I'm pressing the (((red))) button tonight.
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>>534042354
No, they're pressing the nobody dies button, you're pressing the they should die for pressing it button.
Maybe you wouldn't need to constantyl attempt to reframe it if your point wasn't so bad
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>hides flag
>2pbtid
>Buttonposting 8 days later
>Guaranteed bump limit
This site sucks.
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>>534042370
>For instance, shitlibs and niggers.
ok, so a society with no women? based and trad homosexual, I kneel........
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>>534039168
All of congress is hitting red
sociopaths manipulating good people, the whole lot of them
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>>534042429
A society with smart women. Imagine that.
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>>534042323
Blue numbers are inflated because there is no real risk in a poll. Make everyone put 10k down to vote in the poll and blues lose their money if blue loses and see whst happens. Now imagine the same incentive but dialed all the way up to 'blues die'
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I would never choose red because i know there are people that would choose blues also, i dont wanna cleanse humans because they try to act good, they are not genius but they are not evil they deserve to live. On the other hands if there would be yellow button to kill all jews, faggots and whores i would pick it
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>>534042526
an impossibilty and still a minority. enjoy your Chinese demographics, homosexual faggot retard.
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>>534042394
>Blues want to die, or at least risk dying for other blues
>Reds want to live and not play the button-maker's game
fixed. I dont want anybody to die. I want everybody to pick red.
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>>534042418
They're pressing the button that kills up to 49% of the population.

If blue doesnt reach 50%, everyone who advocated blue advocated for 49% to die. Red is advocating that everyone live my making the objectively safe choice.
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>>534038904
it's the new shopping cart test. redjews are failing it catastrophically so these threads keep hitting the bump limit
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>>534038335
Imagine people taking a self-selected internet poll as any kind of serious information. Half these people will press the red button just to be contrary, not as a result of their political affiliation.
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Why would anyone ever put their faith in others or life in the hands of someone else? That might be the single most fucking retarded thing you could do in this world. Fuck everybody else, press red or you're fucking dead.
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>>534041447
>Thinks anything with a non-zero chance of death is a "suicide cult"
>Thinks anybody who chooses a non-zero chance of death versus guaranteed survival to own the reds is in a 'suicide cult'
Correct.
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>>534041447
Your picrel but unsarcastically : you are betting against BILLIONS of indians,chinese and africans who will surely press red , you are doomed to fail .
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>>534042672
Grok, please tell me how this correlates to the shopping cart test.
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>>534042573
>Reds want to murder
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The red button is the logical choice.

If I push the red button I live...

If more that 50 percent pushes the blue button I live.

Pushing the red button guarantees survival everyone should push the red button unless they have a death wish.
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>>534040331
>>534042672
But if people hit red, they dont die, and neither does anyone else?
As long as you tell people this, everyone worth saving hits red. Blue is a voluntary death sentence
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>>534042573
Blues are grounded in reality and understand that a significant portion of people who also want everyone to live will pick blue and, thus, die

Blues understand the only real way for innocent people to not die is to pick blue

Reds justify their decision in killing these people with their choice as stating "good, let the retards die"

Simple as. The evidence is in this thread.
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This question is about individualism vs utilitarianism.
- Red button = guaranteeing your own survival at the expense of others (individualism)
- Blue button = risking your own life to get the objective where the least suffer (utilitarianism)
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>>534042672
Red logic: I don't want to risk death. I press red and tell others to do the same because I want nobody to die.

Blue logic: I don't want anyone to die, so i am going to press the only button that actually creates any risk of death and then roll the dice on being able to convince half the people to risk it with me. Despite being the ones creating the circumstances where we need more and more people to pile on to our side to surcive, we dont actually carry any moral guilt for doing so. Actually, the reds are killing us! Unless we win, then we'll need to track down and punish the reds!!!
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>>534042309
>there's no incentive for anyone to push it in the first place.
reds cannot help themselves expose their innate talmudic nature for all the internet to see. blueGODS bring the light
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>>534038605
yes, those are my arguments, is there something wrong with them?
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>>534042560
Don't worry, enough men are retards like you.
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>>534042976
>there's no incentive for anyone to push it in the first place.
Can you refute this statement though?
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>>534038744
babies and little kids don’t vote, not sure where it is implied they would in this case? taking “everyone” very literally but not “vote” in the same sentence is just retarded. besides if they did have to participate their mothers would hold their little hands to press the right button. what a stupid argument.
>>534039742
not voting red is suicidal actually there is nothing genocidal about it. you make a choice in this hypothetical, any risk taken is willingly.
>>534041733
exactly
all this experiment reveals is those who can’t take personal responsibility and blame others for their problems, expect the world to take care of them. pathetic.
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actually, i fucking hate you and i hope you die
that's why i press the red button. fuck your bullshit, fuck you and die.
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>>534038860
even if you told everyone there's still people who would push the blue button just by mistake

If you were to say everyone to push the blue button, though, even if someone pressed the red button by mistake, he would also be saved
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>>534038335
This "moral dilemma" is terrible. You literally have 100% chance of living if you press the red button and so does everyone else who does. There is no limit to it. The only ones who die are retards who actively wants to risk their life for some pointless performative altruism.
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>>534040601
> as a strict non-participant, I win.
Ah, so you pressed red
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>>534042672
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>>534042672
>unless more than 50 percent of people put away their shopping carts those that did will die
Kek
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>>534042976
There is no real risk in the experiment comparable to death. Blues have an exagerated view of their real numbers.

Make the poll so that you have to pay 1000 dollars to vote and only get a refund if you vote red or you vote blue and blue wins.

Suddenly you have to think about more than your faggy social signaling.

Everyone on your side takes to Twitter go inform everyone that they'll move to Canada for moral reason every time Republicans win. Then you look at the coat of living here and stay put.

All bluefags would press red and say they pressed blue if blue somehow won anyway.
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Leftoids and libtards are so giving, when it comes to other people's things, aren't they?
They just love to give away all our money and then tell everyone how good they are because THEY are the ones who wanted to piss it all away on dumb shit that hurts us long term.
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Hell, even if you can see who pushes the buttons beforehand, as soon as one person pushes red, the obvious choice is for everyone to follow suit, but the first time someone pushes blue, they've marked themselves for potential death unless a majority follows suit. Demanding other people put themselves in danger or at risk because you threaten to kill yourself if they don't seems like a dubious moral action.

I'm not even saying that pressing red is a morally good action, but pressing blue is categorically trying to use the threat of your own corpse to force moral consensus, which is immoral in and of itself.
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>>534040080
what
we won't ever go to war, our country is in shambles and those islands are not worth it
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>>534043235
People who assume we still have a high trust society hopes everyone presses blue. I know we no longer live in a high trust society so I will press red.
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>>534042852
if 51% blue = no one dies
if 51% red = 49% of all humanity dies

redjews be like: duuurrr what's moral? red is the logical choice! blues deserve to get genocided!
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>>534043288
Exactly ,they want to gamble with the life of others
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>>534043271
Leftoids and libnigs are the only people dumb enough to risk their life for literally no reason. They then take this useless exercise as an opportunity to browbeat others for their unearned sense of moral superiority. Masturbatory virtue signaling at its finest and very spiritually hebrew.
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>>534038335
Why would I press the blue button? If I press the red one, I am guaranteed to live on. When pressing the blue button, I might die.
If you're not a retard or suicidal, you will press the red button.
The blue button is basically a retard filter.
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>>534043384
Nobody needs to die and all they have to do is not risk it with the blue button.

By the way if there were real stakes and it wasn't just virtue signaling, we all know the vote would be 100% red. Nobody would bet even $100 on blue of there is no reward and a chance of loosing it.

Retard.
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>>534038684
Since some retards will press the blue button, you should press the blue button to save them. Should all retarded people die? Some retards are fun to hangout with, you’re just a cruel chud.
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>>534043501
>citing game theory when you literally fail to grasp game theory
Love to see it.
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>>534043529
>I
>I
>I
>I
Shocking decision
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>>534043591
Why should I bet my life for the sake of retards?

The longer I am in this thread the less I press red out of self preservation and logic and the more I press it to filter out dangerously retarded blues from existence. They clearly want to track down and punish any hypothetical red voter, the button system just evens the odds and gives me a first strike option.
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correct vote is "not sure"
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>>534043384
No one is stopping you from pushing red and if everyone pushes red everyone survives.

In a real world scenario that is what would happen with a few exceptions, those who fall for the false choice of blue.

Why would anyone chose blue when choosing blue leaves the possibility of people dying.
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>>534043690
>look at how selfish this guy is! Speaking in the first person to answer a question that asks what they would do in a given scenario!
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>>534043995
Blue is the performative oversocialized button.
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>>534038335
AI is smarter than Trumpies
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>>534043799
Killing people is wrong actually.
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>>534043519
Yeah it's all performative with those low IQ narcissists and sociopaths. If anything they're probably telling people to press the blue button while they'd secretly press the red one lol.
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>>534043995
Not only choose blue, but then insist and deman others do too. It's not just a risk of suicice, they also then pressure others into it too, until they maybe get the survival numbers, and then they shift into bullying whoever didnt buy in.

Morally bankrupt from start to finish.
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>>534044232
Yes, people killing themselves by hitting the blue button is wrong.
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>>534044232
So dont press the suicide button.

Not participating in a 2-person game of Russian roulette is not the same as executing whoever then plays alone anyway.

Not only are blue pressers making the choice that creates the risk, they also try to shift responsibility away from themselves.
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>>534044227
Imagine putting your fate in the hands of niggers, kikes, poos and beaner cartels, hoping and praying they’ll press blue.
Relying on the 8% of the global pop and falling altruistic whites to save you is absolutely insane given the breakdown of the world population.
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>>534042852
Pressing the red button on the assumption that 100% of people will correctly press the red button and live is an illogical, if you press the red button people will die, the assumption that everyone won't choose the retard option is an improbability. Save the retards, retard lives matter.
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>>534041595
Red=I choose to live
Blue=others choose if I live
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>>534044475
>they also try to shift responsibility away from themselves
They've been doing that since the first thread a few days ago
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>>534044542
>if you press the red button people will die
Incorrect. Only by pressing the blue button can people die.
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>>534044537
Imagine thinking this way. You should kill yourself.
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>>534044297
why do you insist on blue voters chasing after you because you voted red? I'd assume you were simply afraid and/or didn't trust other human beings enough to press the blue button.
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>>534044620
>kill yourself
Why would I press the blue button? You are more than welcome to go live in some third world shit hole and see how far you get with your high minded ideas. Your only reward will be a machete to the neck.
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>>534044606
Very low IQ answer. Retards in this thread don't understand the question. Only by pressing red do people die, you fucking dumbass.
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>>534044542
Kek read the experiment again. No where does it say or imply pressing red kills blue fags. You keep making false equivalences with what the blue button stipulates
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>>534044676
I mean IRL, faggot.
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>>534044620
>kill yourself
But theyre pressing red?
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>>534038335
>press blue button and hope everyone else does as well
>press red button and guarantee survival since the quiz literally presents zero negative consequence for pressing it
did somebody think this was clever or something? it's retarded.
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>>534038335
It is immoral to press the blue button.
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>>534044606
You're thinking people are machines that can be programmed to all think like you, I would press the red button if everyone thought in the same collective process, but they don't, some people will choose the blue button so I will too to save their lives.
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>>534044227
>IF you want the best collective outcome
this is why all the red kvetching is so funny twisting themselves into knots to avoid admitting they're spiritual jews with a deep-seated hatred for humanity that blues don't have. tt's easier for the votes to tally up to 51% blue so everyone lives and this is self evident to normies. the only reason to vote red is to mass kill golden rule blues. reds are the minority in any given sample size and they're the vocal minority on /pol/
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>>534044690
>Only by pressing red do people die
That's not what the original hypothetical says. Only blue introduces the risk. You are trying to pass on the consequences of your choice like >>534044475 said.
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>>534044652
Because many of them express this sentiment outright like
>>534040534
And all of them say the exact same things I've heard an unvaccinated indicidual for the last 6 years
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>>534044701
AI is smarter than you. How does that make you feel, faggot?
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>>534044735
>I’m so moral for pressing blue, you should commit suicide for disagreeing
Everything you do is dross and performative. You’re not even human.
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>>534044757
>did somebody think this was clever
It's not clever, but it's simplicity is wonderful. The hypothetical is showing us just how many self-fellating retards we have everywhere.
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>>534044771
Pressing a button ,crossing your fingers and hoping for the best isnt a virtue or moral.
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>>534038335
I reject the buttonomic system and the perpetual oppression created by the button dillemma. I encase the buttons in concrete and pray mankind never again discovers this dark power.
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>>534044620
Leftoids turned my once high trust homogeneous society into a low trust multi-culti shithole. So I press the red button. There's no magic ratio at which all these foreigners suddenly turn my once great nation into a magical utopio. More brown people = more bad.
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>>534044874
>blue does not directly kill anyone
Kek ai makes up false data all the time and it did it again.
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>>534039614
He pushed the blue button so that you could push red.
Praise be!
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>>534044690
No wonder you hide behind a memeflag, you're an idiot lmao.
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>>534044989
Coping because you've realized you're a retard
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>>534044830
Everyone lives is not the best outcome. Thanos was the protagonist. One should lie on the survey pretending to be an evil blue button presser while actually pressing the red button to simultaneously help save the environment and purge idiots and commies. Life raft Earth stays afloat a little longer.
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>>534042670
lol, no, red is explicitly the button that can kill up to 49% of the population, blue is the button that kills nobody
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>>534038335
Let me see if I understand this. Assume for the moment that I have no problem with the blue button outcome, that's good for me too.

If I vote red, and blue wins... everything's good.
If I vote red, and red wins... everything's good.
If I vote blue, and blue wins... everything's good.
If I vote blue, and red win... I die horribly.

Why the fuck would I vote blue? Are these people mentally retarded, or is it a fake survey so that blue can convince themselves they'd win, when clearly they will lose again?
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>>534039939
Anyone with even a cursory comprehension of human psychology knows that even 10% blue is being generous. Why do leftists spend years of their life and a fortune to get a degree in the humanities, when they don't even bother applying it?
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>>534044988
That was Reagan actually lmao
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>>534044918
Pressing the red button, knowing well that some people will be pressing the blue button, is immoral. Yes, they are retards for pressing blue, but we shouldn't let them kill themselves for their idiocy, retards don't deserve to die.
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>>534038335
>We must vote blue to save everyone from the mistake of ... pressing blue
Bluetards own arguments basically admit red is the correct choice and they only pick blue to save retards who made the wrong choice.
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>>534041270
It's the lockdown and vaccine mandates all over again. Normies. Normies never change.
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>>534044757
It's a way to get performative leftoids to tell on themselves, at least that's how I see it.
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>>534038335
Self reported morality is meaningless. It could very well be that libs are actually much worse, just less honest (it is).
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>>534044830
Yet the blue pressers hate White people with a burning passion, why is that?
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>>534045136
Everyone on this board is a fucking retard. Red introduces death. You niggers have very low reading comprehension.
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>>534043162
The world would be better without any blue button pressers
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>>534044830
Its easier to bet on more people voting out of self preservation than it is on betting over half betting against self preservation.

Blues also suffer no real risk by participating in virtue signaling threads about the scenario rather than actually being in a scenario with risk. Make the poll $1000 to enter if you vote blue and no refunds for blues if blue loses.

Now you actually have to weigh something against your perceived moral superiority gains for talking about voting blue.
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Blue is do nothing. Red is do something. It's basically a race among races since Muslims exist and are programmed to switch from blue to red as soon as they can. So blue is only a temporary, unsafe option as long as Muslims exist. Every other race should work together to get to 50% red before Muslims can switch out to red on them.
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>>534038335
No just more intelligent & honest. Left wingers are either too stupid to know whats best or they are smart liars who lie about what they really think depending the audience.
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>>534043384
All survive to destroy the earth together one population doubling sooner at which time 100% die
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>>534041565
Wrong.
I always wanted to help people. But making 11$ an hour made it impossible to help people in need. So I tightened up for a few years, millionaire now, and I help as many people (who are deserving according to my excellent judgement i.e. not Somalis) as I can
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>>534045311
Red only introduces safety. Only blue introduces death. Read the original hypothetical. The only reason to press blue is to save idiots that press blue.
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>>534045079
Where does the experiment state or imply red does anything other than live? You are projecting the risk that blue stipulates into red. Its kike behavior and shows a lack of personal responsibility
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>>534044989
Blue kills everyone that voted blue if blue doesnt win. Red does nothing.
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>>534042672
Blue pushers think solving a trivial logic puzzle is mental gymnastics. And it is true, it is very strenuous mental gymnastics beyond their capability..... for blue pushers.
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>>534041565
Also, everyone is selfish. Notice Leftists want admiration for their “charitable” actions
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>>534043615
>you don't want to put other people 's life ar risk ? We don't do that in GERMANY.
You germans after WWII have been brainwashed to have suicidal empathy and 0 self-preservation instinct, your country is FUCKED .
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>>534045311
>Red introduces death.
For other people. Not for me. I voted red. And if it kills blues, that's starting to sound like its own sort of bonus. Doesn't need to do much else.
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I can’t wait for the IDF rods of god to slaughter the last goyim in 2046
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>>534039742
Bluefags are retarded and that's somehow my problem?
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>>534045173
It's for the greater good....
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>>534045426
Noone even dies if everyone presses red.
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>>534045133
Blue is the button that kills up to 49%

Red is the button that doesnt put you in the 49%

Vote red and live. Simple as that
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>>534045311
I see you there trying to convince morons to press blue when the great dillema of tge button is imposed on Humanity by Gort from Oort while planning to press Red yourself.
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>>534038335
Anyone not pressing the red button is an idiot. Its the only way to guarantee i wont die.
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>>534045563
The more I talk to blues the less I want the blues to vote red and save themselves.
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>>534045371
>Blues also suffer no real risk by participating in virtue signaling threads about the scenario rather than actually being in a scenario with risk. Make the poll $1000 to enter if you vote blue and no refunds for blues if blue loses.
This

One side is playing pretend, one side is being honest. Liberals despise honesty.
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>>534045311
Pushing blue is like playing russian roulette, if I press blue MAYBE a bullet will not come out of the gun and I won't die..
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>>534044830
Why would I want people alive who cant even prioritize their own survival?
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>>534045707
As a bonus Red effectively doubles your wealth, laws of man not withstanding. Your per capita share of Earth shot up by the button's decapitation.
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>>534044874
And AI chooses red lmao bluefags utterly gaped
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>>534045810
Honestly sounds like a good way to raise money. Run the poll weekly. If blue wins, everyone gets refunds. If red wins, reds get refunds and blue money goes to a pro-Trump PAC for the midterms. Lets see where libshit money goes where their mouths go.
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>>534045157
Hart-Celler Act was 1967, dumbass.
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>>534045665
>no one dies if everyone presses blue
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>>534045864
>Pushing blue is like playing russian roulette, if I press blue MAYBE a bullet will not come out of the gun and I won't die..
I saw one meme last night that was urging people to vote blue even if they didn't want to because it was the only way to save the other people who had already voted blue. Which is, incredibly, a perfect illustration of what blues are like.

The only thing I'd add to this is that in reality, while it is exactly the same game, the blues don't actually know that the percentage threshold is 50%. It might be 65%, or 99.99995%. But when trying to convince you to vote blue, they'd lie anyway and say that it was 50%. Fuck, the percentage might be 105%, which is impossible, but they self-deceive that it's lower and only 100%, so they're trying to persuade us all to suicide out of principle.
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>>534045864
Blues argument reduces to "if someone challenges you to russian roulette, but everyone is allowed to skip their turn, whoever skips is killing whoever doesnt".

Blues are profoundly retarded
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Pressing Red button means you are certified midwit with no friends or famly
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>>534038335
>Both shades of blue
I once pitied the weak minded for falling for such obvious tricks, now I judge them as the same as those who use the obvious tactics.
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>>534038335
>conservatives love conspiracy theories
>we will decide what counts as a conspiracy theory
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Honestly these results just mean you should vote red. Anyone who says he's voting red is probably doing it since there's no incentive for him to lie, meanwhile among people saying they would vote blue, many would likely vote red in secret since saying they'd vote red makes them look bad in front of emotional and female brained people.
If open red voters are at least 30% of the population, you would be stupid to risk voting blue. The real number is likely in the mid 50s
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>>534046274
That's because it's not really a morality question it's a simple IQ test.
It shouldn't be a surprise the majority fails it.
Just be glad it's so close even with all the bullshittery.
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>>534045777
I think I hate prople.who say they would press blue more than people who actually would. A better button would demamd two presses. First you publicly register what button you will press next by pressing the corresponding button. The next press being secret you then press the button for real. The button then does not function as advertized but only kills people who said they would press the blue button on the first press. Tgere is no second press. This kills both liars and idiots the latter being slaves boisters and enablers of the former.
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Gay test, there should also be "everyone dies" button
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The blue button represents mass migration. If mass migration saves even one brown child, it's worth throwing away our countries for.

The blue button represents gun control. If banning guns saves even one child, it's worth relinquishing the liberty and power of the people.

The blue button represents transgender idiology. If it saves the life of a single suicidal tranny, it's worth completely uprooting the entire social order and throwing away any notion of common sense.

The blue button represents covid lockdowns. If it saves the life of even one single elderly person, it's worth collapsing society at large and forcefully injecting everyone with experimental vaccines.

The blue button is the essence of every single problem with current society. If you advocate pushing the blue button, you are the reason Western civilization is collapsing.

>Imagine all the people pushing blue buttons
>oooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhh
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>>534046123
So they arw morally the same byt red is safer for you. The everyone survives via blue would require everyone to be selfless - foolish expectation. The everyone survives via red just requires people to think - unlikely, but less outlandish than the blue. In the end you are deciding between fools and realistic people.
This question is an intelligence test disguised as a morality test - and you failed it.
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>>534046634
Just make blues pay to vote blue and send the money to whatever cause the reds vote for if the blues lose the vote.
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>>534038335
>we currently live in a low trust society thanks to leftists and the deep state
>trump disrupted this and they're trying to kill him and disenfranchise/propagandize anyone who supports him
>people's QoL dropped by unfathomable levels thanks to the patriot act, inflation, black culture, and illegal mass migration
>somehow, people being blackpilled and pushing the self-preservation button over deluding themselves that we're still in a high trust society makes them IMMORAL
Nah dude that red button's getting pushed and you're not convincing me otherwise.
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>>534044830
Bluefags always post Epstein as the poster-boy for redfags, but they don't realize that this just makes bluefags look worse. If the elites are redfags lording over the bluefag cattle, then clearly the redfags must have some merit regarding their worldview. Why would you willingly be the slave instead of the master?
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>>534043150
You cant guarantee 50% picking blue, so all you can do is give people a clear honest path to not die
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>>534047677
Yup. The disconnect between people seems to be a complete lack of comprehension that
>sympathy requires trust
>I do not fucking trust 51% of humanity
>Most of them aren't white
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>>534043150
If you tell people to press the blue button, you're telling people to risk their lives, and if blue loses, you're just increasing the amount of people dying.
If you tell people to vote red, you consistently decrease the amount of people dying.

Let b be the percentage of people voting blue and d(b) the number of people dying when r% of the people vote blue.

d(b) is a function that increases linearly as r grows until it goes down to 0 after b>50%.

Now let D(r) be the function that describes the amount of deaths if r% of people vote red.

D(r) starts at zero and continues at zero until r>50%, and then D(r) gets it's maximum of 50% deaths at 50% red votes and decreases inversely proportional to r until it reaches 0 at r = 100%.

d(b) = {
b, if 0 <= b <= 50
0, if 50 < b <= 100
}

D(r) = {
0, if 0 <= r <= 50
100 - r, if 50 < r <= 100
}

Taking the integer of both in the interval of 0 and 100%, the total would be equal for both, so the total deaths if you ran this for every percentage of red and blue votes would be the same.

No scenario is inherently more deadly, and telling people to vote red or blue risks getting as many people killed as telling them to do otherwise. The biggest difference would be that in both scenarios it's the blue voters dying.

In other words, whether you tell someone to vote red or blue, the number of possible deaths when looking at all scenarios is the same, but his specific chance of dying is far bigger when he votes blue than red (when it's zero percent).

When you tell someone to vote blue there's a nonzero chance of them dying. When you tell them to vote red, there's a zero chance of them dying. Non-zero > zero.

Telling someone to vote blue is immoral.
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>>534047304
> everything is locked

- lawless public hysteria by lobby-groups
- costcutting (understaffed, self checkout, locked-products)
- 2 dollar solution applied for sub-dollar product (socks or deoderant)

1. lowers profits for company (negative impact on customer favorability)
2. fuck it I'll buy it online from ... temu
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>>534038684
Exactly, this is basically a white person test. Every single white person should instinctively know that the red button guarantees survival as long as you press it.
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>>534048041
>If you tell people to vote red, you consistently decrease the amount of people dying
Reds acting like they care if people live or die when they vote for the only option that results in people dying is some of the most hilariously blatant cognitive dissonance this century.

There is quite literally a 0% chance that every human presses red even if you had 20 years to pitch your case. Therefore, your choice results in death.

On the contrary, tbere is quite literally a 50% chance that every human would survive if we all just flipped a coin to decide - let alone all tried getting on the same page.

If humanity as a whole had the opportunity to collectively discuss the best decision to ensure the survival of everyone, the clear solution is to press blue. No amount of retarded mental gymnastics changes this.
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>>534046424
>the irony of this post
Pressing red means survival 100% of the time. Anyone with a brain only needs to press red.
Anyone who doesn't press red is a certified retard.
There is no limit on who can press red, literally everyone given the option only needs to press red and there is 0 risk for anyone.
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>>534048431
Unfortunately, white people are the most likely to press the blue button by far. The Achilles' heel of the white man is his eagerness to be a martyr for all of mankind. You go to Kenya and ask the locals there which button they would push, you would get a near 100% red population. Pakistan, India, Israel, same thing.
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Red button and a coke please
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>>534048712
True, I guess I should change it to the virtue signal test. Since logically, everyone only presses red and there is no risk.
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>>534045810
>if you choose red, you will receive a A no matter what anyone else does
>if you choose blue you get an A if more than half of the class also chooses it and and an F otherwise
It would be a great final exam for a logic class.
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>>534038335
>if everyone HAD to vote
Still not voting lol
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>>534047934
>trust
It's FAR worse than that. Pushing the blue button is essentially a suicide cult evil.
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>>534038335
>live
>Maybe live
Anyone who pushes the blue button is a certified moron.
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>>534038335
Stupider too.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11308703/
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>>534048543
The only way anyone can die is if you tell them to vote blue or if they want to die.

Blue votes are the cause of death. They're the ones choosing to put themselves at risk and then trying to use their own life to blackmail others to do so when there's literally no good reason for that.

No blue votes, no deaths. Voting blue is the only way to create a victim in this scenario. Telling other people to vote blue is the only way to increase the possible number of deaths.

Blueists want to convince or coerce the largest number of humans in all of history to play Russian roulette all at the same time.
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>>534048665
Based of polls, red "winning" would result in the death of at least 35% of humanity.

And your rebuttal? "Good"

Acting like you care about humanity while being a red is nothing more than self-delusion so you feel less guilty about being a selfish kike
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>>534049268
Blue 'winning' results in a humanity where a small number of reds will own your banks, media, legislatures, courts while you impotently dunk on the majority of reds that do not, but are at least able to see it happening.
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>>534049268
>this reply
>this spacing
Yeah, the point is that logically you should only press red. Anyone pressing blue are the ones creating the risk.
There is literally zero risk for anyone if you press red. Only by pressing blue do you create risk. At which point, you are the one assuming the risk, so yeah, have fun dying. Welcome to responsibility and being an idiot.
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>>534040563
where is the red button in your example?

a better reframe is:
>an building with nobody inside is in fire
>you can either:
>stay safe and watch the building collapse from afar
>run inside the building. You die there from the fire except If +50% people also run into it and help each other leaving the building before it collapse.

what do you choose?
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>>534038335
yes, conservatives are generally more selfish and liberals are generally more giving. this isn't hard to figure out based on their typical policies
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>>534049519
It's so funny how you fail to understand this logic trap. Again, only by virtue signaling as if you are caring about others are you actually putting them at risk. It is ironically a perfect representation of the retardation of the left.
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>>534049605
See my post above. Blue pushers are genuinely evil pretending to be good.
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>>534049499
>nobody is playing russian roulette
>sonebody grabs a gun and starts screwching that kf nobody else joins his game, his suicide is actually the abstainers murdering him
>screeching intensifies when other people tell him to put the gun down.
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>>534049196
>The only way anyone can die is if you tell them to vote blue or if they want to die.
Incorrect and this exposes your disconnect from reality.

In reality, people choose blue because they want everyone to survive. You choose red because YOU want to survive. No amount of debate will convince the people who do not want literally millions of people to die to choose the route that results in millions of people dying. Their choice is grounded in saving humanity. Yours is grounded in saving yourself. That is what it boils down to.

And this:
>No blue votes, no deaths
Just cements your retardation. If 100% survival is the goal, why the fuck would you choose the option that requires 8 billion people all choosing the same thing opposed to the option that only requires half?
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>>534038335
This just proves that 78% of people shouldn't be allowed to vote on account of being too retarded for life. The "not sure" group isn't any better than the "suicide button" group as it's a really simple question that doesn't require much analysis.

Shitlibs in particular are morally underdeveloped Dunning Kruger retards though. They pretend to care about "Harm" and "Fairness" while constantly supporting policies that are harmful and unfair. For example, importing 20 million illegals to drive down wages for citizens and rape and murder the occasional shitlib woman. This suicide button exercise is further evidence that leftists are the dumbest niggers on the planet.
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>>534038745

This. There are only 4 possible outcomes based on what you press.

You press blue, everyone else does. Everyone including you lives.
You press blue, everyone else presses red. Everyoen who pressed blue dies, including you.
You press red, everyone else presses blue. Everyone including you lives.
You press red, everyone else presses red. Everyone who pressed red lives, including you but anyone who pressed blue dies.

In this situation, the only possible way you can die is if you press blue. If everyone had the IQ to think about this situation they would all press red. You don't even need a high IQ either, just not being a retard.



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