UAE to leave OPEC>https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/view-uae-leave-opec-opec-oil-producer-groups-2026-04-28/Unironically massive news, US and Russia bungled their way to victory by fucking the world. China and India in shambles. Europe assfucked but they are used to it.
>>534039520Self bumping because actual political news is being pushed out
>>534039520So what are the long term implications of this? I've heard about OPEC all my life, but I don't actually know that much about it.
>>534041448The super short version is that it's a bunch of countries with a lot of oil that agree on controlling (restricting) their own production to control oil price.Their goal is to make sure it's not too expensive (otherwise it creates incentives for countries like US, Canada, etc. to start investing in alternative), but not too low either, because obviously they want to make money.UAE getting out means they can produce as much as they want without being restricted by OPEC quotas.
>>534042636So it sounds like the UAE is going to flood the market with oil to try and make a bunch of money by selling more than before, but this will destabilize the price of oil and OPEC will have limited ability to re-stabilize it without choosing to simply sell less themselves, effectively ceding profits to the UAE. But not doing this will mean that everyone makes less money as the oil market gets flooded with an over supply of oil. But I'm guessing that all of this is basically academic as long as Hormuz is closed? The UAE can claim they want to sell as much as they want but if they can't move it none of it matters.
>>534043332>Just days after the UAE publicly signaled liquidity concerns by requesting swap lines from the Federal Reserve to ease pressures on the country's banks, major Gulf oil producer, the UAE, has decided to exit the oil cartel - an unexpected development that crossed Bloomberg headlines on Tuesday morning around 0822 ET.shortly after begging the federal reserve for a bailout too
>>534043596Oh. Is the UAE going bankrupt and in such desperate need of money that they can't afford to worry about the long term consequences? Because this does seem to read like they need cash and they need it right fucking now.
>>534043332So the price of oil will crash?That's a good thing. Actually that's a wonderful thing.
>>534039520Shitskin leftists are trying to spin this as a loss for trump lmao. Its never been more evident leftists know nothing about economics. Oil is going to flow like water now
>>534043596This also follows reports that US oil has basically rocketed up as the hormussy being closed along with the US blockading Iran is forcing countries to buy from the US. UAE is seeing itself being left behind when shale oil now dominates the market and OPEC is just constricting itself
>>534039520>Europe assfucked because the oil cartel that keeps the prices high by capping production might collapseIn what way?
>>534039520>cartel member tries to leave cartel to do their own thingrip in piss
>>534043332>The UAE can claim they want to sell as much as they want but if they can't move it none of it matters.The UAE is already moving a good 40% or so of their production through pipelines to Omar, bypassing the strait.There is no law of nature that dictates they have to use the strait, it was just very convenient to do so. Now that political tension is making it unavailable, it's inconvenient and they'll switch to alternatives.It will take a couple years obviously though.
>>534044417you are stupid
>>534044273Because OPEC was really the biggest check on US power left. In the 70's it brought the US down by jacking up prices on oil by embargoing the states. With OPEC's fracturing it means the US has no balances left and can do whatever it wants with no economic repercussions beyond breif increases in prices. It means an American shelf will not go unstocked and Americans will not starve for fuel.
>>534043831it would appear so. that would lead me to believe they shopped around for a bailout with more agreeable terms but the federal reserve/US were the only ones with sufficient liquidity to bail them out, meaning they're in deep shit
>>534044417>The UAE is already moving a good 40% or so of their production through pipelines to Omar, bypassing the strait.You mean fujairah pipeline? But that's capped at 1.5-1.8 mil b/d. Also couldn't iran just block their cargo from going in and out with drones?
>>534039520Based. Fuck OPEC and fuck Arabs
>>534043882The green lobby will spaz out and send a few more ecoterrorists to target infrastructure
>>534044523and you're some shitskin who's seething because the US will not collapse like you have been begging for.
>>534044749The green lobby has been completly taken over by oil companies anyway. The only true "green" initiatives are China's way-to-late solar and electric plans that will inevitably fail simply because they should have started in the 80's and not in 2010's
>>534044527Physical destruction of oil facilities on top of oil well shutdown is going to raise energy prices, not lowerNot to mention the Emirates are looking at multibillion repair bills that'll have to come from somewhere: either an American swap line or dumping of US t-bills.We're looking at possibly close to trillions being printed over the next 5 years to cover lost revenue and damages, you might as well drop a nuke on the federal reserve.
>>534044723Iran 100% has the capability to destroy that pipeline, they're just leaving it alone as a lifeline for the saudis as a courtesy and as a gambit because they know the Saudis are one of the few groups egging the Americans on to escalate the war.If Iran is to fall, they have zero problems taking all the Arabs with them and the petroldollar.
>>534044775>it'll just take a couple of years thoughHe's rightNot brown btw, you are a fucking retard
UAE has always been Israel's buttslave. Any country that begins with "United" is Israel's bitch.
>>534046458>>534046791>MUH PETRODOLLARdoesn't mean anything when the US is the net exporter of fuel on the planet. Also Iran's bombing has failed to get anyone on their side to pressure the US to stop it's actions, so just saying "B-BUT it will be bombed!" means nothing. The petrodollar existed because OEC had such a massive control on fuel, now that it is changing members inside OPEC are breaking apart and fleeing to the US/China, though mostly the US as China zero ability to cut oil supply like OPEC or the US can.
>>534047122>the net exporterThe word "net" doesn't mean what you think it means, because you're stupid (and most likely brown.) This only means combined petroleum products, not fuel. And it's a "net export" of 1 million barrels a day.We import over 8+ million barrels a day of petroleum products. We import 7 million barrels a day of crude and export 4 million barrels a day of crude.
>>534047608The only one brown and seething is yourself you dumb nigger, and your numbers are way off. US exports 10 million barrels and imports 7.9 million, making it a exporter. Sorry to tell you but the petrodollar scam to keep OPEC afloat is worthless to the US now.
>>534041448another sign of the decline of the opec, it had massive power in the late xx century but their influence started declining with fraking and russia flooding hte marked but mostly because they were all brown scammers that constantly broke their goals
>>534048285Fracking was the final nail in the coffin, and Russia/OPEC price war in 2020 was said coffin's burial.
>thing happens>half the people say it'll raise oil prices>half the people say it'll lower oil prices
>>534044417Sounds like they are begging for their pipeline to get bombed.
>>534049065It's going to rise out of speculation alone and that leaving OPEC cripples a massive organization that lasted over half a century. If they start to turn up the pumps then it will slightly lower gas, and in the long term it will crash gas prices down as OPEC losing a major member dulls any credibility it has in the oil market
UAE just going mask off and admitting they're a puppet state of the US. I give it 20 years max before the ruling class flaunt their wealth to the point of pissing off locals and believing they're powerful enough to stop listening to the US. Then they'll be a C.I.A./Mossad funded uprising and they'll install a more agreeable "democratic" leader beholden to US/Israel interests
>>534047122You are retarded. None of this was intended to make anyone pressure the us into anything. There is only one country that pressed the us to do something it doesnt want to do and its wanted this war for 40 years.
>>534049445Most of the middle east went mask off during the Israeli attack on Gaza after the raid. Now it is just a matter of them getting separate deals to benifit themselevs at the expense of the others
>>534049730>they were not trying to get anyone to pressure the US to stop!!MASSSIVE third worlder cope there. The Iranian president even apologized when none of the countries they bombed went after the US. Iran wanted the US to bomb Iran because they thought China and Russia would start WW3 on their behalf and obliterate Israel/Sunnis, but it didn't work because China and Russia have no allies, so they instead tried to blockade the strait which then got themselevs blockade by the US. With the UAE now openly admitting to being a US puppet and fucking up OPEC, the only real check to US power, Iran's strategy is choking themselevs while the US just makes money from exporting more oil while Oil is high.
>>534039520Legit biggest news in awhile
>>534049432and how is this bad for china, on short term they can just keep selling more oil on cips and on the long term they just get cheaper oil, if anyone is getting fucked then it's the usa on both the short and long term
>>534050072>Net imports of crude oil, or the difference between imports and exports, narrowed to 66,000 barrels per day last weekthe usa is a net importer of oil, when donnie talks about being a "net exporter" they talk about specific products, not oil in general, you're still losing money while inflation is fucking consumers
>>534041448Its a cartel. Literally.
>>534039520Moronic 'insight'.How is this a win for Russia or bad for Europe?You realise this frees UAE from production quotas? It means that they intend to sell as much as they can, at the first opportunity.Which will drive prices lower.This actually fucks Russia and possibly US oil companies, if in the future UAE can produce and sell so much prices drop a lot.That would be great for Europe.China too, they wouldn't say no to cheaper oil imports.
>>534051329price isnt the biggest picture here
>>534051109>USA is a net importor of oilMassive thirdies cope. US is a significant net exporter and has been that way since late 2010's.https://usafacts.org/articles/is-the-us-a-bigger-oil-importer-or-exporter/https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/us-energy-facts/imports-and-exports.php
>>534049065First one, then the other
>>534039520UAE is cucked by Israel beyond measure. They even abandon their own survival instincts in order to appease their master. Thankfully they won't be long on the scene after the war begin anew and Iran begins destroying all their oil infrastructure.
>>534049811Realistically all the muslim majority countries showed their hand during the 6 day war back in 1967. Jordan got fucked by Egypt and the coalition and they all left Nasser and Egypt get fucked in the Suez Crisis. Meanwhile Pakistan and Afghanistan have been at each other's throats for all time, Iraq and Saddam during the Gulf War showed how one dictator has no qualms about taking over his neighbors, and that set the stage for US presence in the Gulf and Arab states which we now are seeing the result of.
>>534039520>bungled >implying this hasn't been the plan from the start.Also, while russia may be profiting in the short term from higher oil prices, it won't matter once their export markets collapse and they finally see the impacts of the absolute demographic obliteration that has been the Ukraine war.Russia is already no longer a global power.This is why they did nothing as we spent the last year buttfucking their proxy states.They will be lucky to exist as a unified political entity by 2040.Total American victory, American global dominance assured for the next 100 years.Euroshits must either submit or face economic destitution. Famine will strike india and china by next year.
>>534051484>>534051109I think the bigger issue is that the US wants to maintain its status as an exporter to the detriment of their own people. The U.S. could be paying $2 a gallon if they nationalized or at the very least made policies that focused on domestic consumption but instead you export the good stuff at premium, and buy dirty Canadian crude(at a discount mind you), then refine it for domestic consumption. Sure this makes sense in a "free market" economy, but oil executives and major shareholders are benefitting while Cletus in the South, and Xavier in the North both get fucked at pumps. The main difference is how deep the pump nozzle goes up your ass based on state tax
This doesn't destroy OPEC though.UAE has less oil production than Russia, so it will have less impact than Russia on the global market. Especially since they can barely deliver much now. And they will have to fix their broken installations.Really, this simply sounds like UAE is in deep shit and they asked for currency swaps with the US Fed and the US asked them to leave OPEC in exchange.So it's kinda symbolic for now. But with Iran and UAE unable to ship oil much, things won't change much for now.
>>534044156The US is not producing more oil than it did in February. In fact, it is producing slightly less.https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=WCRFPUS2&f=WIncreases in US net oil exports mean less oil available for domestic consumption (= higher domestic prices)US producers are certainly not going to invest in new drilling after the news that OPEC is falling apart.
>>534052029The US imports oil because a lot of their refineries are set up to process heavy crude.
>>534052029The US's plan is to form a shadow OPEC who will pump gas at least for now to break China's attempt at alternative fuel, and break Europe's attempt to find alternatives.
>>534052276Countries want alternatives to hydrocarbons because of the risk rather than because of the price
>>534039520Nothing a big fat nothing.
>>534047608Import 6.08 million barrels per day of CrudeExport 5.2 million barrels per day of CrudeGet your shit straight, nigger.
>>534052029This. > net exporter Oil is traded as a global borderless commodity. Even if us is a net exporter, it won't benefit the masses. Only oil companies will get richer.But it gets deeper, demand for dollars is created through global oil trade. A borderless currency for a borderless commodity. If US nationalised the oil, dollar will die. Ironically china might benefit from this as it will accelerate transition to EVs and solar. I charge my EV from rooftop solar. 0 dependence on arabs chimping out in red sea or Iranians in strait of hormuz. 0 dependence on Amerimutts electing retard as a president. Fuck oil companies, i hope they blow up more oil wells and infra.
>>534053078Solar panels contain plastics
>>534053078Lmao based
>>534052260Yeah because they rely on the oil sands and most major refineries were built like 100 years ago to process it before fracking became viable. But this depends on a good relationship with us leafs and the continuation of longstanding oil export agreements. But if Trump decides to fuck with CUSMA, then we can throw everything else out the window. Sure it's cheaper to build a distillation tower to run shale oil than a catalytic cracker for canadian heavy crude, but it still takes time and investment both of which the US oil industry doesn't like. Plus alot of our oil terminals and facilities up here are partially owned by the chinks so they could decide to stop the flow south and the Canadian government couldn't do shit. >pic related 1. Because our politicians are owned by China 2. There's no really big Canadian oil companies with a vested interest in Canadians>>534053078Energy independence is one thing but you still need oil for a million other products and renewables or nuclear won't help you there. I doubt China has enough domestic capacity and enough true friends to satisfy even the plastic industry's demand for basestock oil.
>>534054070Forgot image
>>534044417Yeah, the people saying iran won the war by closing the strait are just fucking morons.Yes, closing the strait caused oil prices to go up which pissed of europe and mildly inconvenienced us.But it has functionally killed iran.All of the other countries have other options for moving stuff in and out of their country.Iran is the only country that actually relies on the strait in an absolute sense.Closing the strait is a card they can only play once and they played it wrong.The fear of a thing is usually worse than the thing itself.
>>534044527Ever since the invention of tracking we have been a direct competitor to OPEC
>>534044723If only somebody knew how to lay pipes down through the desert.Sadly, this alien technology is lost to us
>>534046919The collapse ain't coming bro, get over it.
>>534051329We dont really care either way.Sure lower prices hurts our tracking i dusty, but it helps our industrial sector so its not a major difference in the big picture.
>>534054210Really they played their only card and didn't expect the US to be un-negotable from its allies. Europe is unwilling to pressure the US as the US has no real economic incentive (being able to store shelves) like Europe does, and china/india/Russia are unable too. As you said eventually shipping eats the cost and just goes to longer and safer routes. That and the US counter blockading forces Iran into a shitty predicament tht it really can't get out of
>>534051600>when pigs fly iran will show them all!Sad cope.The war is over and iran lost badly.Now they will die a slow choking death.
>>534052276This seems to be the option trump has opted for.We could destroy china if we wanted by just destroying their oil supplies, but it seems trump would rather control those oil supplies as leverage and keep china making cheap crap
>>534044633I hope we’re charging those Emirati at least 6% APR, they worse than jews. Should’ve had their top goys convert to Christianity just for the keks
>>534053078The president has the unilateral authority to halt oil exports at any time.So no, we do not have to share price shocks with the rest of the world.The reason he hasn't chosen to do this already is because are still low enough we can tolerate the hit, but if they rise too far outside of what we find comfortable, trump can just restrict exports and drive the domestic price down.This fucks the rest of the world even harder, but fuck you I don't care.
>>534039520Spell this out for me? No more opec means a race to the bottom on oil prices I assume?
>>534039520UAE is permanently fucked no matter what. they created a multi billion dollar degenerate disneyland luxury resort that now generates zero revenue bc its a war zone.
>>534053611People won't switch for muh environment. They'll switch cause orange retard will make energy markets unpredictable. It takes years to explore and bring oil wells online. Then transport the crude through giant tankers and oil pipelines to refineries. One geopolitical shock and those pipelines are shut down or blown up. Decades of infrastructure building brought to nought in a moment. A stable world is a prerequisite for this kind of investment.
>>534039520>UAE>oil>victory
>>534044045>Oil is going to flow like water nowAnd it's not going to be centrally coordinated by OPEC to be sold in USD anymore.That's the real kicker - we're at T minus 10 until the USD goes into irrecoverable freefall for losing its reserve status and no longer being able to export inflation.
>>534054070You dont have a choice but to export to us.You literally have no other options to export your oil because you never built the infrastructure to do anything else.You COULD build new pipelines and export facilities, but you won't because the same people who dont like the US and want to stop exporting to us are the environmentalists who block every proposed oil infrastructure project.The people who support your oil industry are also the people who like america and want good relations with us.So stay seething and irrelevant>a fucking leaf
>>534043332They have land pipelines too.
>>534054815They mistakenly believed that europe has any political leverage over us when that relationship has been under stress for years anyway.
>>534055283On paper yes. In practice, it means the US now gets to control what happens to gas prices. It may either force gas prices down from race to the bottom, or keep them up to pressure countries like those in Europe and Asia to concede. Whatever happens the world is legitimately changed forever from this
>>534052213Cope. Production doesn't go up overnight. Prices where they are make export more viable but also encourage new well tapping in areas that were not viable. Long term prices go down.
>>534055450>P-P-PETRODOLLAR REEEEEever since the invention of fracking, the petrodollar has only hurt the US and tied it to countries set on replacing it. Long live the new Oilbucks
>>534043596So they're broke after so many rica billionaires quit due to the Iran war and now they're trying to take profits by selling as much oil as they can
>>534054815People jave become so accustomed to american-guranteed free trade for the last 80 years they couldnt even fathom a world where america might deliberately disrupt shipping.There's literally nothing anybody can do against it.
>>534055232> US fucks the worldYou're not a country mutt. You're an economic zone. Go look outside, who is an ethnic American?I pray everyday for a war in Pacific, chinks blowing you out of water. My only fear is that jeets, nogs, spics and faggots will collapse America before this happens!
>>534055568My guess is we do whatever is expedient at the time. >China getting uppity >Crank the lever and make export gas to to the moon>Everyone plays ball >Cheap gas for everyoneAmerica always wins
>>534055382You're not wrong about the incentives, but youre wrong about the viability of alternatives.There is no way to fully replace dependence on oil.You can reduce it, but not replace it.
>>534044527>With OPEC's fracturing it means the US has no balances left and can do whatever it wants with no economic repercussionsOPEC being de facto ruled by the Saudis and the Saudis being leashed to the USD meant the US could do whatever it wanted, knowing the world would always have to pay for oil in USD, leaving the status of the USD as the trade reserve currency unchallenged. OPEC fracturing and no longer being controlled to sell its oil in USD, means as soon as the US starts shit a sudden majority of oil producers could decide to boycott the dollar and demand payment in Euro, in Yuan, etc. Which is actually a much - MUCH bigger threat to the US than gas prices going up. Because it directly threatens the US's ability export the USD inflation. As soon as the US would lose that ability, their inflation would spiral out of control. The US national debt is already literally higher than all the fiat currency circulating in the world put together. You quite literally do not have the means to actually repay your national debt. The necessary amounts of money to do so literally do not exist.
>>534055450The US will stay the reserve currency, just because there are no viable alternatives.Who's going to replace us? The yuan? China inflates their currency worse than we do.The euro?You seized private accounts during the debt crisis, nobody is gonna hold your dogshit currency.Who else is there?Nobody with a domestic consumer market large enough to make the currency worth holding.
>>534055738Malding
>>534054833>miggers actually believing in this
>>534055978Countries will just use their own domestic currency, Gold, Real Assets, or even fucking shitcoinsAs they fucking should. Why use a centralized currency at all unless you're some some goy slave
>>534055451We didn't have a choice because your government throttled our attempts at building coastal pipelines using USAID, trade agreements, and NGO jewry to lobby and pressure and buy out our politicians driving us into a suicidal nose dive so we couldn't strike off on our own or build a closer relationship with Europe.Almost all the leftist garbage plaguing Canada is an end result of US culture export smothering the fuck out of anything Canadian it couldn't buy out for over a century now.
>>534047990>the petrodollar scam to keep OPEC afloatDumbfuck. The petrodollar scam is not to keep OPEC afloat. It's to keep the US solvent.The petrodollar is what stabilizes and cements the USD as the reserve trade currency, because everyone needs oil - and apart from a few very sporadic isolated cases that can't meet demand, it has to be paid for in USD. If the petrodollar falls, other currencies can start forcing their way in more readily. Each time they do it weakens the US's ability to export its inflation to other nations. And the US needs to export its inflation to be able to survive, or it will spiral to rock-bottom Zimbabwan levels within the year.
>>534039520What does this mean for existing contracts and agreements? Surely you can't just reneg as soon as you leave the organization. And since they did this for credit from the Fed, what's to say that they don't align with OPEC anyway in the future, despite not being in the organization. I'm sure OPEC has countermeasures available for renegs and hostile actions from former members.
>>534055978>implying keeping a (((central reserve))) currency is good for anyone but jews who use it to sit around stealing everyone elses wealthFuck off, we should be trading oil in whatever we please, be it CAD, yuan, memecoins, or maple syrup.
>>534056226>its your fault we adopted moronic leftist envirocultist ideology that teaches us to hate you.What's it like having no agency?
>>534056453You can, but you won't.
>>534056550You say that like you aren't a vassal to jews too lmao
Also, you need to remember that UAE is in conflict with Saudi Arabia over Yemen. And if I remember right, they also pushed for war against Iran (then got fucked hard by them).
