What the fuck are they doing here? Anyone else getting this as well?
>>534043156socal. i see at least three per day
why are you sitting on the cuck seat
>>534043156Calm down..planes fart all the time you stupid faggot
>>534043232Someone sent this to me...I was not in the car.
>all of the weird anti-human tech gets deployed 5x as often under trump as bidenWOW
>>534043156Keep your eyes on the road while you're driving. Stop looking at the sky.
>>534043156planes navigate via waypoints. the contrails behind them are what are causing "climate change" and are not to be confused with chemtrails, which also cause climate change but in a targeted area
> I just hate the German weather, bro.
>>534043156ive been seeing the same thing in lots of different places for nearly 3 decades. whatever else it might be, its pretty normal.
>>534043156Killing you and poisoning your agriculture land you retard.
>>534043156Weather control/cloud seeding. It's poisonous btw. Enjoy your increasingly fucked water table.
>>534043156They are spreadin aluminium, barium and other shit (it was declassified by the CIA) so you remain a docile depressed wagie cuck instead of building scaffolding to rope judeo masons.
>>534043611>>534043661those are normal contrails calm down
>>534043661amazing that it's not having an effect on you
>>534043856muhammad protects him
>>534043856The power of NEETing, minimal exposure to the poison in the air. Im still a faggot not building scaffoldings tho.
>>534043661>so you remain a docile depressed wagie cuck instead of building scaffolding to rope judeo masonsSpraying shit in the air is the dumbest way to do this. Putting it in the water and food supply is far more logical. Better yet, a syringe.
>>534043156
Why do conspirtards never say what they think is happening and just vaguepost, counting on innuendo to do the heavy lifting?Is it because, once you get them to make a stand, it becomes quickly obvious how retarded their position is?
>>534043156Jet fuel's chemical formula is C10H20.When you react (burn) this chemical with air (oxygen), you get CO2 and H20, the latter of which you see condensed in the air here.Whether this water condenses or not depends on the wet bulb temperature of the air at the time.Flight planning software can predict whether this will be the case for a given flight, so planes are routed accordingly where avoiding contrail conditions would not impose a major fuel penalty.People often claim that contrails cause global warming, but the trails themselves increase Earth's effective albedo and thus reduce absorbed solar radiation at the surface.
>>534043946>Spraying shit in the air is the dumbest way to do thisi agree. completely uncontrollable and indiscriminate
They are afraid of the Sunlight. Once you accept this everything else falls into place.
>>534043946I like how they blew up the radar stations and fixed global warming in the middle east overnight. Never trust a judeo american
>>534043156>be mutt schizo>omfg contrails>still doesn't take the trainwhy are you like this?
>>534043946They also poison the food and the tap water with contraceptive residus.They poisoin us by any means possible. Remember the agent orange, they us as bugs.
>>534043989You're a conspiracy theorist
>>534043156>Lives next to an airport>Planes fly above>>>Muh must be chemtrails>Burning fuel makes mostly water>Water hitting cold air makes clouds>>>Def chemtrailsEnjoy your exhaust fume clouds.
>>534044100rent free
>>534043156They are spraying us like bugs too over here
>>534043156Sky doritos
>>534044018I live in a place dry as fuck and we still get them in the heat of summer. Those planes are either taking off or landing too so altitude can't explain them
>>534044146You are a lying retard
>>534043156>>534043427>>534044146My little goyims are afraid of clouds. Cute.
>>534043611>Weather control/cloud seeding. It's poisonous btw. Enjoy your increasingly fucked water table.This right here.>>534043824>Trust me bro, the goyclouds are safelol
>>534043156Some of that is high-compression turbine exhaust fumes.Some of that is HCQ and vinegar.You'll know the difference if the streaks form greyish clouds in 5-15 minutes or not.
>>534044136>tap water with contraceptive residus.its more a matter of not filtering that out though. its women on the pill all the time pissing that out. i suspect that filtering all the water to that level would be very very expensive.also keep in mind that a large proportion of people dont drink water from such sources.
>>534044152>You're a conspiracy theorist
>>534044261those re not clouds nigger
>>534044289i didn't say they were safe, i just said they're not chem trails you dumb nigger
>>534043824>those are normal contrails calm down>>534044386>i didn't say they were safeKYS
>>534043427Would it be very hard to build a MANPAD and shoot these geo-engineering jets down?
>>534044472It would be extremely painful
>>534044495For jews
>>534043156>This is NOT fucking normalTell me you are retarded without telling me you are retarded.Absolute fucking garbage human.
>>534044152>You're a conspiracy theoristChemtrails stopped here on April 1st, 2025. Completely clear skies ever since, not a single chemtrail. Explain that.
>>534044613I was taking the piss
>>534043156They dont do it where I live cause I live near rich people and military
>>534044371You can't filter it, it's too tiny. I just gave some example. Every morning and every afternoon wagies take a bath of fluoride and teach to their future wagie children to take the flurorid bath too.The food is poisoned at the very root, Monsanto own the worldwide seed industry, they modify seeds so they become resistants to the shit farmers are spreading on it making them dependant of Monsanto seeds. Destroying any alternative because the soil is too poison by decades chemical abuse so only geneticaly modified crops can resist.Our world is fucked and left right dichotomy was used to mock people pointing out problems induced by judeo masons.
>>534044223(You) are on the ground.(You) might be surprised to discover that it becomes colder the further away from the aforementioned ground you are, and that the ability of cold air to contain water is less than that of warm air(You) are likely conflating trailing edge condensation as a result of adiabatic cooling (pressure drop resulting from shoving aerofoil through air) on approach with the condensation resulting from burnt fuel at high altitude. See picrel.
>>534044466you really are a stupid nigger aren't you
>>534043156They are spraying us with "forget juice" so everyone forgets about the whole Epstein fiasco. And it's working.
>>534044729>N-noo, I didn't mean what I meanYou're really retarded, aren't you?
>>534044654Very redpilled
>>534044644why do you take the piss? are you punjabi?
>>534044657I forgot to add: it rarely happens but it does. Maybe one or two flights out of hundreds every week. It shouldn't happen at all OR way more often than it does if you're to be believed.Checkmate, poof
Listen ChemTrail spasticsIf your government was seeding/polluting the atmosphere with "ChEmIcAlS", then wouldn't they put some fucking time and money into research to not make the trails visible?Just to shut you retards up about them? If you can't see the trails, you'd forget about them in 5 minutes.Follow up question, why do they use "chemtrails" when flying over the pacific and atlantic oceans where nobody lives?And why did very early jet engines make contrails from day one.And why do military jets leave contrails at high altitude as well? Giving away their position and direction?
>>534044613>Completely clear skies ever since, not a single chemtrail.You couldnt even tell the difference between a chemtrail and a contrail if you tried, retard.
>>534044834Why would they bother when they have gaslighting arseholes like you on the clock?
>>534044878>You couldnt even tell the difference between a chemtrail and a contrail if you tried, retard.Tell us then, out of your abundant wisdom
>>534044878In other words, you have no answer, you stunned cunt.
>>534044834The government hates you more than you could ever accept
>>534043156it definitely ruined the scenery
>>534044897Nice deflectionWanna try to answer the questions he asked?
>>534043156hello monmouth county poster
>>534044654>wagies take a bath of fluoridein fluoridated areas its a problem yeah. but again, what about all the people that dont have that, or that dont have anything to do with public water supplies?> Destroying any alternative because the soil is too poison by decades chemical abuse so only geneticaly modified crops can resist.yeah i mean you have a greatly over exaggerated picture but sure, there are some problems along these lines. but i suspect that you aren't really interested in understanding any of this beyond your kind of crass doomerism.
>>534044802Yeah, those are the ones with the hormones. Forgot to mention those.You don't need to worry about them.
>>534044152tinfoil hat fags
>>534043156I think there are standard flight paths majority of aircraft take. Before moving somewhere, have at look at them, or at a flight map, you'll see the pattern and be able to avoid them
>>534044963>We will just make reflective metal particles invisibleRope yourself dickhead
>>534043156>Stop asking questions chud! But seriously thoug, that's scary.
>>534045045Nice deflectionWanna try answering the questions he asked?
>>534045082Just did.
>>534044985Hopefully not for long. Taxes are fucking ridiculous now
>>534044912>>534044946>Tell us then, out of your abundant wisdomBecause they are invisible. You retards have never studied meteorology. That milky white substance you see and the jet streams and the so called contrails that "linger for hours" are nothing but regular ass weather patterns.You absolute fucking morons do not understand how the dew point works. And that is your entire problem.Chemtrails exist, yes. But that doesn't mean you room temperature IQ cunts would be able to detect them.
>>534045107I can tell that you have limited mental capacity and cannot read more than one sentence at a time, but please try to answer themI'll repeat them here>Follow up question, why do they use "chemtrails" when flying over the pacific and atlantic oceans where nobody lives?>And why did very early jet engines make contrails from day one.>And why do military jets leave contrails at high altitude as well? Giving away their position and direction?I anxiously await your continued vagueposting and deflections while providing zero evidence of your claims
>>534045147>Chemtrails exist, yesAnd where is your evidence of that?
>>534043156Wait are you driving right now?
>>534043661OK so what air are "they" breathing that's different from what us plebs breathe? Do they walk around in gas masks?
>>534043301>He's not even allowed in the carholy cucked
>>534045147>Because they are invisible.They weren't invisible for 50-years and now they suddenly are? You brainless jeet faggot.
>>534043204Thats in new jersey retard
>>534044897>can't answer simple questions>feels part of his identity is being attacked>lack of self-reflection and critical thinking abilities does not allow for admission of holding incorrect beliefs>resorts to namecallingad hominem
>>534044834The government has admitted to making chemtrails though
It's true they started around 1999. I remember the first time I ever saw the chemtrails, I had been reading about people seeing them in the US before I saw them myself. Eglin spends a lot off effort gaslighting the public about this, so they really don't want people catching on.
>>534045408>The government has admitted to making chemtrails thoughThat's amazing!And of course, you have evidence to back up that claim, right?Also note that cloud seeding is not "chemtrails" so don't even try to bring that up
>>534044834they appear in grid patterns which is how cropdusters fly. i've also seen planes that can stop it from venting temporarily and then continue.
>>534044994The fluorid bath is the toothpaste.For water bottles, they are a better alternative than tap water but aren't free of poison.Nestlé published a confidential rapport indicating a high ampunt of arsenic in their water bottles Vittel. Some companies also throw toxic wastes in sources.
>>534044834how come the same aircraft at the same altitudes will sometimes leave contrails that quickly dissipate and other times leave linger chemtrails? i live near an airport i see it all the time. sure contrails can look like chemtrails in that they don't quickly dissipate but its dependent on temperature and altitude so either they should all be leaving chemtrails or none of them.additionally, i once read a now deleted article on the bbc where they admitted chemtrails are real, that they're made using jet fuel additives, and that they're a good thing for benign climate change research purposes (yeah right). though i wouldn't expect you to believe me on that one. there are even now declassified documents regarding the us spraying viruses and chemicals from the air during the cold war for "research purposes" but people got sick.>Operation Sea-Spray (1950)The U.S. Navy sprayed Serratia marcescens and Bacillus globigii (then believed harmless, if you believe that) over San Francisco from a ship off the coast. >Operation LAC (Large Area Coverage, 1957–1958)The U.S. Army Chemical Corps dispersed zinc cadmium sulfide from a C-119 aircraft over much of the U.S., from the Rockies to the Atlantic. Cadmium is now recognized as toxic and potentially carcinogenic. >Project 112 and Project SHAD (1960s–1970s)Included the use of Venezuelan equine encephalitis virus and simulants for anthrax and botulinum toxin. >UK-US Joint Trials (1950s–1970s)Similar tests in Dorset (DICE trials) released Serratia marcescens and anthrax simulants. so it's not like there isn't a precedent for this. all classified programs they denied at the time.it doesn't matter if people know about it because we don't have any power anyways.
>>534045231>Source?Eat a bag of dicks>>534045270>But muh milky white chemtrailsWoosh>Dew PointGo ahead and waste this opportunity to learn something about meteorology.Stick to your talking points and keep telling me how wrong I am without looking into it.I expected nothing less from you braindead faggots.
>>534045202his answer was pretty clearly that whatever they are pumping into us is impossible to make invisible
>>534045504Operation LAC
>be ATC>deconflict the planes into neat lines>schizo on the ground loses his mindnext time they should draw stars and 666 sigils>>534043989keeeek>>534044146even doe it still looks like that in the middle of istanbul (fuckton of air traffic)
>>534045202>Unless you explain every inane aspect of chemtrailing you're wrong and they don't existLike I said, I live remotely. I'm not under a major flight path so planes don't fly at high altitude overhead. They're either landing or taking off. It's never cold enough for contrails to form and they don't on all but a literal handful of flights. They have zero reason to be there at all yet one or two always are even in summer and at low altitude.
>>534045596>Eat a bag of dicksNice sourceThanks for once again proving that you conspiratards just make shit up all the time and can never back up your claims
>>534044594Seethe, childfucker scum
>>534045666None of that is an answer to the questionsWhy are you refusing to answer questions or back up your claims?Is it because you know that once you do, you'll be exposed for misunderstanding normal events or just believing in outright fabrications?
Theories include > creating a greenhouse effect to cause global warming> Trying to cause cooling> creating chaff of some kind for haarp or 5g> trying to protect us from weakening earth electrical field which is allowing in massive amounts of radiation periodically.
>>534043156yes we have traffic lights too
>>534045612>Operation LACThat's not admitting to chemtrails, that's saying that they used an inert chemical to test how dispersing airborne poisons would workDo you have anything to back up your claim of "The government has admitted to making chemtrails"?Or will you continue to vaguepost and assert that anything sprayed from an airplane is "chemtrials" and therefore they are poisoning us?
>>534043156Iran fucked a few weaponized weather modification facilities and now some agencies are are scrambling worldwide to maintain the artificial stability of the atmosphere.If a single zone is allowed to return to natural climactic conditions, all of the world could be restored, with dire consequences, in a cascading failure of control systems.
>>534045542>The fluorid bath is the toothpaste.oh ok i see. it does apply to the water in some places too of course. but topical application has never been shown to cause the kinds of effects your talking about. its very different to swallowing it. plus, there are many fluoride free toothpastes around, with more and more people choosing them.>For water bottles, they are a better alternative than tap water but aren't free of poison.i mean those on well water. lots of people in north america have their own well and im on of them. look, i get what you're going on about and i do see the problems with some food and water sources and the things that are and may be in them, but what this usually comes down to is worrying over stuff that you can't show has any effects, let alone the specific 'dumbing' down stuff you've been mentioning. i always look back to when i used to keep the same plastic water bottle for months on end (traveling cheap so just refilled it all the time) and suffered no problem and then went on to have healthy kids in later years. a lot of this health scare stuff is just media doing what they've always done.
>>534045952see >>534045551
>>534045596>WooshAgain, you still have no answer, faggot. Did the dew point magically change last year?Consider not being a faggot, you faggot.
>>534045551>how come the same aircraft at the same altitudes will sometimes leave contrails that quickly dissipate and other times leave linger chemtrails?first, the claim that they are all at the same altitude would need to be confirmed, as would them being there close in time, because the air conditions change all the time.it could also be different fuel blends, different engine performance and so on. there are a lot of variables to consider.
>>534046047>>534045952Both of you are so fucking retarded that it hurts
>>534046030The claim>The government has admitted to making chemtrailsYour evidence>The government has done tests with inert materials sprayed from airplanes to determine how biological and chemical agents might be defended against>Also, I once read an article that's now deleted, trust me broI hope those goalposts aren't too heavy for you
Conspiracy theories /pol/ collectively believes to be true>faked moon landing>space is fake and gay>Hillary Clinton ran a pedo ring from a basement of a pizza shop>the earth is flat/Antarctic ice wall>gangstalking>chemtrailsConspiracy theories /pol/ collectively refuses to acknowledge>The US is a vassal state of Israel, politically & financially>Their current president and good friend of known human trafficker is a paedophile rapist.Answer this: if the gubbermint wanted you all to be controlled and lazy, why wouldn't they just put something in the water, or the fizzy drinks and, mcSlop food you eat everyday?Bonus Question: are the governments of every nation on earth compliant in chemtrailing? Or is it just the USA? Are the governments of Nepal and Senegal and Botswana chemtrailing their populations?
>>534046167No answer yet again. Kill yerself.
>>534046219>Doesnt know anything>Doesnt read anything>PROVIDE ME WITH ALL THE ANSWERSHow about no>>534046231you're even worse than that
>>534046108i don't need to confirm it because i see it all the time. you don't have to believe me, that's fair, but i believe myself. i understand air conditions can change quickly and take that into account. i hadn't considered different fuel blends and engine performance i just assumed the same aircraft taking off from the same airport would be using the same fuel but maybe not, i'll have to consneed you a point on that one.still, they've sprayed people with chemicals and viruses from the air before. i have no reason to assume there is no possible way they could still be doing that. i believe they're evil and don't even need a reason to do evil things. and if my liberal use of the word "they" in this context offends you, i'm only saying this because i don't have any certainty on who "they" are, but you know what i mean. i don't trust whoever is in charge, trust must be earned.
>>534046224They already do
>>534045551Out of the two following options, which do you propose?>All aircraft manufacturers, airlines, flight crews, MRO technicians, rampies, fuellers, dispatchers and air traffic controllers are in on the secret, and secretly refills an unknown tank on every stopover and operates an unknown dispersal mechanism, whilst denying all knowledge of it. All freely available maintenance documentation for airliners is similarly doctored to omit the chemtrail system>Fuel in the tanks has biological or metallic additives premixed by oil refinery, which is then pumped into the engines combustors and burned with the fuel, coating the turbine stage and exhaust nozzles of the engines, without knowledge of aforementioned staff
>>534046433>i understand air conditionsYou dont.
>>534046219believed to be inert at the time (allegedly) and later found to be harmful. yes the government has admitted to spraying viruses and chemicals on us from airplanes in the past and i proved that assertion.
>The government has sprayed things to test military defenses and it turns out that some of those chemicals may have been slightly harmful in extreme situations>Therefore there is a massive worldwide conspiracy involving millions of flights a year to poison the airThis is your brain on conspiracy theories
>>534046433>i believe they're evil and don't even need a reason to do evil things. and if my liberal use of the word "they" in this context offends you, i'm only saying this because i don't have any certainty on who "they" are, but you know what i mean. i don't trust whoever is in charge, trust must be earned.You may be legitimately schizophrenic, anon.
I'm leaning toward it being in the fuel but also some of the jets are military from what I've seen by zooming in on them and checking flightradar.
>>534046224here's a conspiracy for youthose fake moon landing and flat earth threads are posted around the clock 24/7 by a team of paid shills for the purpose of well poisoning.also /pol/ rightfully bitches about israel influence over the us constantly you fucking tourist. and many here do suspect trump was involved with epstein, though honestly the evidence is far from conclusive, but like the podesta emails you refuse to acknowledge, the evidence is suggestive.>why wouldn't they put something in the food and waterlol they do, as wellthe government of the world are all wef. almost every political and corporate leader in the world is a member of the world economic forum (or davos or bilderburg) with secretive closed door meetings annually and thats not even conspiracy. they pinky swear promise they're not passing policies in those meetings though.
>>534046433>they've sprayed people with chemicals and viruses from the air beforethere are a few small scale examples sure. im really not sure about the whole mass chemtrail thing though. if its at all capable of doing what some believers claim then i cant imagine who exactly would be doing it, because that shit simply cannot be confined to designated areas. it would have to be some being or group that can isolate themselves so completely from the world that they might as well be aliens living in orbit.its less able to be confined than nuclear fallout.
>>534046862>those fake moon landing and flat earth threads are posted around the clock 24/7 by a team of paid shills for the purpose of well poisoningI agree.And I suggest that we add chemtrails and gangstalking to the list. Though some people who believe in gangstalking are just genuinely mentally ill individuals.
>>534046302STILL cannot answer. STILL a brainless jeetfag.
>>534044552
>>534046862I used to think it was well-poisoning, until I got a blue collar job.Then I realised a significant minority of otherwise fairly normal people possess a major persecution complex combined with a serial lack of deep knowledge about things around them.I'm beginning to suspect that even people here aren't joking about this stuff.For the ones who manage, it will be a shock to their worldview to discover the true blackpill; there is only a depressingly boring series of incentives for men to fuck other men over.
>>534043473The new normal in the last 30 years.It's absolutely nothing that would effect the climate, that's for certain.
If the contrail doesn't dissipate within two minutes it's a chemtrail. When they spray a lot in the same spot like in OP, they are concentrating a storm in the region. Half of Michigan just flooded after a bunch of these. Also the Texas camp where the girls died reportedly had this aerosol spraying before the flood
>>534043156Clouds of that type, at that altitude cause more of the sun's radiation to be captured and results in a warmer surface temperature. Look up clouds of you want to see what they're doing. It's not mind control juice, it's global warming juice.
>>534047044>Demands answer>Cannot comprehend answer>Demands answerEndless loopngmi
>>534046522i understand the same aircraft at the same time at the same altitude in the same place should leave contrails that dissipate at the same rate pretty consistently. >>534046659you may legitimately not even have an argument because what i said was perfectly rational.>>534046878>there are a few small scale examples sure. that we know of because it was declassified decades afterwards. my point is simply that they have done it before and so the idea that they would or could never do something like this has been debunked. as to why they would be spraying so constantly and not confined to designated areas meaning they'd be spraying themselves too, there's an easy explanation: selfless evil. just as some people will risk their own lives to do good, some will risk their lives to do evil, such a mentality congregates in positions of power. which may seem farfetched i'll admit. an alternative explanation is that they have access to some kind of antidotes or treatments to negate the effects or they really are extremely isolated, we may not even know who they are, we might just know their public facing puppets. pure speculation of course.
>>534044057Nigga lmao don't believe every retarded thing, there's such a thing as seasonal rains, it happens every year there
>>534047031theres a list of subjects that are always cycled through the catalogue, usually in short bursts of several threads per subject.fake nukes, falt earth, moonlandings, and so on.>>534047181>major persecution complex combined with a serial lack of deep knowledge about things around them.>I'm beginning to suspect that even people here aren't joking about this stuff.agreed. these subjects can supply a bit of goodfeel for people into them. >>534047237the 30 years are the length of time ive been aware of them. im absolutely sure it has been the same for a lot longer.
>>534044018This right here is apparently false because I've witnessed a jet with a short "contrail" fly through and disturb a "chemtrail" that remained from a jet that flew and intersecting path not long before.Why would one jet leave a long trail at a given elevation and another not leave a long trail?
>>534047301>Chemtrails stopped here on April 1st, 2025.>Completely clear skies ever since, not a single chemtrail.>Explain that.Never forget: This (above) is where you died attempting to play /pol/
>>534043156>Ahhhh is that hot air with particulate remnants of combustion combining with cool, humid air to near-instantaneously form thin but visible clouds that can last for minutes in a repeating pattern due to our proximity to a major airport?>AHHHH save me RFK Jr. I'm going insane from the optical effects of water vapor!!
It's wild though that your average normie doesn't watch the sky or observe nature all that much. The tend to be incredibly unobservant and unaware of their surroundings.
>>534045288He asked if anyone else was getting this you fucking goynigger
>>534047181A huge appeal of conspiracy theories is that it makes you feel special for possessing hidden knowledgeIt makes you feel special when your life is mostly ordinaryIn moderation, it's not necessarily a bad thing, but the problem is that once you believe in one, you start to believe in them allAnd then that's all you talk about, you alienate your family, and your only social group is other conspiracy theoristsIt's a black hole from which there is almost no escape
>>534047370>you may legitimately not even have an argument because what i said was perfectly rational.That a nameless group of malevolent actors with the means to wholly subvert both the airline industry and the field of military aviation, has conspired to contaminate the entire planet - that they too occupy - with chemicals that harm or otherwise control the population?
>>534047701you have to be seriously retarded if you don't think literally any conspiracies could possibly be going on anywhere. it's only natural to form theories about which conspiracies you think could be happening. and no you don't have to believe literally every theory, or any of them, the keyword here is theory. there is only a minority of retards who believe with 100% conviction every single conspiracy theory they come across, and they're as dumb as the people who disbelieve with 100% conviction every conspiracy. be more conspiracy agnostic.>>534047807well when you put it like that: absolutely, yes, very plausible
>>534047487>the 30 years are the length of time ive been aware of them. im absolutely sure it has been the same for a lot longer.I remember seeing them sporadically as a kid in the '90s and my dad joking about them "making clouds" that way, but never saw the entire sky filled with trails and high-altitude haze on the daily like now.System trusters claim it reduces temperature by reflecting sunlight, while it's "generally accepted" that clouds and haze "trap" heat.
>>534047370in theory you might be right be without any actual evidence of evil doing (samples of the virus etc) and then evidence that its doing anything at all, its really just supposition based on seeing some contrails. >>534047541because the air isn't a completely homogeneous medium
>>534043156>plane contrailsok and?what about it?
>>534043419What a memeflaggot thing to say. Kiketrails confirmed by this post alone.
>>534048043>System trusters claim it reduces temperature by reflecting sunlight, while it's "generally accepted" that clouds and haze "trap" heat.if theres less heat coming in theres less to trap.
Yeah, anon.Years ago when Eddie Bravo was chemtrail posting, I just didn't want to dive into it. It seemed like a near flat earth tier of conspiracy theory I wasn't realy wanting to delve into.But, my nigga, I drive a lot for work. You can literally see them doing it. X patterns all over the sky. Then you see other planes clearly leaving contrails, but they dissipate. The 'chemtrails' linger. And I'll go one more for you.They absolutely are spraying stuff, and then lying.
>>534048151>in theory you might be rightand that is alarming enoughi wouldn't have access to actual evidence anyways, it's not like they're going to openly admit it today. if we follow past trends we can expect they might declassify several decades later while saying at the time they thought what they were spraying was harmless. because thats what they've done before.
>>534047541Presumably the contention here is that because your anecdote does not neatly fit my explanation, that your explanation must be correct?The fluid- and thermodynamic principles which dictate the presence of visible exhaust condensation have in all likelihood too many variables to constitute something I can easily cite as a gotcha, which means you'll probably come away from this thinking you're right, in spite of what I say.My best attempt at a good-faith answer is:>The proportion of visible water vapour in the exhaust of a turbofan engine is variable to a number of parameters, including but not limited to: thrust setting, fuel composition, wind speed, airspeed, air pressure, air temperature, wet bulb temperature, angle of wind incidence, angle of attack, design of specific engine, health of specific engine, warmth of specific engine, pitch trim, mass of aircraft, applicable airspeed minima/maxima to the given SID or STAR, and more that are near-impossible to neatly quantify or explain in theory.
>>534048269See the image in: >>534047603Why is Venus so hot?Why does it get so cold at night in deserts?
>>534048151well, the fact is that it's 100% confirmed that they are engaged in stuff llike weather modification, cloud seeding.Also I think bill gates has suggested we should black out the sky for... climate change.
>>534043156It's something mentally.
>>534047937>they're as dumb as the people who disbelieve with 100% conviction every conspiracy>I reject your justification on the basis that I don't like it
>>534045781Don't know if others have noticed, but I distinctly remember the day-night delta only being 5°C for over a decade, and right now it's almost 12°C different between day and night.It's not a seasonal issue. Last summer, 30°C outside for days but the house which always, always without fault mimics the outside temperature, didn't even hit 28°C... because the nights which years ago used to be 25°C were only 19°C.Not a single night north of 20.Used to be 25 minimum.What I've noticed is that this started happening after air travel resumed following lockdown, and some contrails were forming huge grey cloudscapes that trapped radiant heat for 72 hours and would bring a smell down to the surface that absolutely reeked of vinegar and metallic chemicals.Vinegar is the key there. It binds to aluminium oxide and makes it heavier than air.Why would they spray it up there just to bring it down and get rid of it?I suspect they've actually been cleaning the atmosphere, not making it worse.What makes me so sure? My hayfever is gone, the air smells nicer, I can wear a closed vest over my shirt at 30°C outside without sweating, and the temperature delta only increased when the 72-hour smell went away.Additionally, that 72-hour period shrank in duration every time.
>>534048327I notice whenever I see the end of the contrail and the plane at the same time now
>>534048334>it's not like they're going to openly admit it today.but if they are doing real world activities like you're saying, it wouldnt need to be admitted because you could detect it yourself.>>534048381yes, i know that. obviously if there are clouds only at night the over all effect would be to retain more heat, with the opposite effect with clouds only in the day.>Why is Venus so hot?incredible atmospheric pressure>Why does it get so cold at night in deserts?the ground releases heat quickly compared to anything else. if its cloudy in the day, deserts dont get that hot at all, which has saved my ass on many occasions
>>534048378>Presumably the contention here is that because your anecdote does not neatly fit my explanation, that your explanation must be correct?NoI suppose stating your argument was false or in bad faith because I've witnessed something that was apparently contrary to it was going to far.
>>534048418sure, i dont deny that. just dont see any evidence to go beyond that into the realm of mass chemical and virus spraying.
>>534048775I wouldn't say going too far, more outing yourself as someone that will draw conclusions they shouldn't about things they don't understand, then reconstrue that lack of understanding as evidence of a conspiracy.
>>534044472>>534044495I thought about this but I think most of these planes appear as passenger flights on flightradar, i think its added to the fuel of normal flights
>>534048749Quick AI answer:>Clouds trap heat by absorbing infrared radiation (thermal energy) emitted from the Earth's surface and re-radiating a portion of it back downward. This process, often compared to a blanket, slows the rate at which the surface cools, particularly at night when there is no incoming solar energy. Does this effect outweigh the amount of solar heat energy reflected back into space?I don't know.
>>534049041Stupid bot you never felt pressure changes while going up or down a hill ?
>>534048378>thrust settingyeah, even this one factor needs a lot of looking at because, even in the same patch of air, two different aircraft could naturally be using a different setting for a multitude of reasons.
>>534048749how could i detect it myself? i don't have a jetpack, i can't fly up there and sample the chemtrails. all i have is what they'll admit to, and so far they only admit to these things decades later in a limited way while claiming they didn't know those things they were spraying were harmful. by the time i'm an old man in my 80s they might admit to spraying us with stuff in the 2020s but by then nobody will give a shit and they'll assume that could never happen in their modern day. just as most people don't know or care about the many airborne spray tests of viruses and chemicals during the cold war that are now declassified. for anyone reading this i mention those declassified operations here >>534045551and you can look them up yourself
>>534049094>ESL reading comprehensionyou are dismissed
>lol
>>534049041>flerf botfuck off
>>534049041>The problem of determining the motion of three bodiesThe important word here is 'determining', anon.Do you also think the sea and atmosphere are fake because they're too chaotic to deterministically simulate?
>>534049138>i can't fly up there and sample the chemtrails.but isn't the claim that the spraying is designed to cause effects on the ground, such a poisoning people etc?
Chemtrails have already been admitted as little sense as it makes when they just poison the food and water directly.
>>534049162stupid cattle cant even observe the world himself, need to rely on youtube
>>534049041the three body problem is irrelevant. if we can't solve for it that only means the solar system is not sustainable forever and planets will start ejecting themselves at some point billions or hundreds of billions of years from now rather than maintain stable equilibrium forever.the air thins with altitude. consistent with gravity, which diminishes in influence further from the source. no sealed container required.
>>534048898I understand vapor condensation just fine.Can you provide an explanation as to how one jet traveling at the same elevation and roughly the same speed as another would produce a horizon-wide contrail, while the jet that intersected its path did not?Mind you, the second jet had a short contrail behind it that rapidly dissipated.
>>534049200>takes the baitI knew it you, you are that leaf lolcow from the flat earth threads trying to always gatekeep and control direction of conversations regarding conspiriciesno faggot kike, (((YOU))) fuck off you well poisoning pajeet
>>534049246yeah and? look buddy if i find some virus in the air or something how am i supposed to prove that came from chemtrails and isnt just some thing going around? likewise with any chemicals, which may be very widely dispersed, how am i supposed to prove origin and effect. i'm not a laboratory, i don't even know if an actual lab could detect these things or even know exactly what to look for, its not magic, testing is hard.
>>534049324I already have, see >>534048378.In the simplest terms possible: Air is a heterogeneous fluid which exhibits unpredictable material properties due to the size of system it inhabits and the number of factors influencing said system.
>>534043156>what are they doing hereflying.
>>534049324>Can you provide an explanation as to how one jet traveling at the same elevation and roughly the same speed as another would produce a horizon-wide contrail, while the jet that intersected its path did not?Yes - the second airplane was either ascending or descending which you would have not been able to determine from visual inspection>Mind you, the second jet had a short contrail behind it that rapidly dissipated.Another point in favor of ascending/descendingThe atmospheric conditions at one altitude was conducive to creating contrails, and at another altitude it was not
>>534045267kek
>>534049304>the three body problem is irrelevant.that is your opinion, stop trying to posture it as fact with your argumentum ad ignorantium
>>534049572and i explained my reasoning, which you have failed to debunk. earth is round, here is some proof
>>534049324Another factor could have been different engines, different fuel mixtures, and different temperatures of the exhaustThere are too many variables that you're trying to simplify down to "There were 2 airplanes therefore they should behave exactly alike"
>>534049391there are usual two leaf poster regulars, me, and the one that posted this >>534046862.>>534049423im just saying that IF there is a widespread poisoning program going on there should be some tangible evidence. if there isnt any, then it likely isnt going on.
>>534043204did you mean social?
>>534048749Dane Wiggington has detected unbonded aluminum particles himself
>>534049694there were widespread poisoning programs in the past and people didn't immediately notice and prove it then and we only found out decades later when it was declassified. you can speculate that we should be able to detect it and produce tangible evidence using nothing but consumer available equipment and methods but i don't know what you're basing that speculation on.
>>534049633>flat earth.wsLOL why does the southern cross never move?why did the Georgia Stones have a hole in one perfectly positioned to have centered on Polaris, no matter the time of night or season of the year?
>>534049694>there are usual two leaf poster regularsDude, please, there are shitloads of leafs here. I've been here for over a decade.
>>534049694funny how my 3 body problem post got deleted by mods almost immediately but you all can post your off topic images and its ok
>>534049804>Dane Wiggington has detected unbonded aluminum particles himselfOk, and?How much was found?Could it have had a natural origin?Is there evidence it was from a massive airborne poisoning campaign?
>>534049429>Air is a heterogeneous fluid which exhibits unpredictable material properties due to the size of system it inhabits and the number of factors influencing said system.>>534049498>Yes - the second airplane was either ascending or descending which you would have not been able to determine from visual inspectionThe paths intersected closely enough to notice a disturbance in the contrail path of the first jet from the second jet.
>>534049804ive heard of such things being sampled before but was never really convinced it was related at all, or what it would mean if these things were being deliberately sprayed.>>534049852>there were widespread poisoning programs in the pastwhich ones are you thinking of?>but i don't know what you're basing that speculation on.the much more readily available equipment and access to lab analysis required to do so plus the internet in general making research and contacting knowledgeable people much easier.
>>534043156Chemtrails are one of those retard conspiracy theories only bought into by the dumbest of boomers. These are designed to distract people from actual conspiracies, like the Epstein files.
>>534050020>The paths intersected closely enough to notice a disturbance in the contrail path of the first jet from the second jet.That doesn't mean it wasn't ascending or descendingHow close do you think a plane would have to be in altitude for it to "disrupt" a contrail?It seems like you want to believe, and so are just dismissing any explanations that are offered to you
>>534049958yes anon, i understand that. i was talking about regular posters in flat earth and moonhoax threads. i haven't really noticed another leaf flag being in those all the time.>>534049967fuck off and start a flat earth thread on /x/ if you want to go over all that crap again.
>>534049971Unbonded aluminum could not have a natural origin, no
>>534043156Cloud seeding
In the interest of stimulating the debate:>>534046224>faked moon landingFaked some or all of the footage, evidence is sitting on the moon and has been observed by numerous satellites of the moon. Strong incentive for burger adversaries to highlight fake if it happened>space is fake and gayIts utility to humans is fake and gay for sure. It's fun to explore, but we aren't colonizing shit. Pipe dream.>Hillary Clinton ran a pedo ring from a basement of a pizza shopI am on the fence about that one. Too much incentive for both sides to mislead public to reach meaningful conclusion.>the earth is flat/Antarctic ice wallI've been on a Great Circle flight, which would be impossible if the earth were flat>gangstalkingCan be true in individual cases, which is what would make gangstalking so effective. There's no contention of a grand enough conspiracy to reach the 'ridiculous' threshold in my view. I absolutely believe people have been gangstalked. I do not think I am being gangstalked>chemtrailsPattern recognition issue, see ITT
>>534043156>What the fuck are they doing here?a lot that shouldnt be done
>>534043611Cloud seeding is real, its just not used very often because all you can do is make it rain. Now they have the clown seething which is 100% effective and you can see it working on this thread
>>534046862It's amazing how so many retards on this board fall for obvious well poisoning.
>>534043156International airport near by?Jup!Early spring Tornado season weater?Jup!Commercial airplanes burn varying amounts of fuel depending on the type and size. For example, a Boeing 747-400 burns about 10-11 tons of fuel per hour!TONS!!!Yup!!!
>>534050020>The paths intersected closely enough to notice a disturbance in the contrail path of the first jet from the second jet.Wait, they were going perpendicular to each other?They they could not have been at the same altitude unless one was climbing/descendingTo avoid collisions eastbound planes use odd values in the thousands digit, and westbound planes use evenhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flight_level
>>534050020>The paths intersected closely enough to notice a disturbance in the contrail path of the first jet from the second jet.If the answer isn't encompassed in the mine or the other leaf's response - that one plane was in a very different energy state (combo of thrust setting, airspeed and rate of climb/descent) than the other - what are you proposing as an alternate explanation?
>>534050290Memeflag all you want but your pic lets us know youre american
>>534050020I'll end this argument by stating I've only witnessed this happen once and admit there could have been some variable to explain it besides a jet leaving a contrail passing through a jet leaving a chemtrail.My fellow schizos who make the point that subversive poisoning through food, water, and medicine, would be much more effective, without off-target pernicious effects to the ones doing the poisoning are right.My concern is a potential effect of constant man made cloud cover being responsible for effecting climate, either locally, or globally.
Friendly reminder: The chemtrail conspiracy theory was created in 1997 by a bible thumper named Richard L. Finke, who was also an outspoken member of the Aryan Nations neo-Nazi terrorist organization. He called them "lethal contrails" and connected them to the new world order and population control. He and his friend named Larry Wayne Harris published their whacko conspiracy theories all over the internet and on a Christian radio station in Rushville, Ohio. They believed Iraq was going to blow up the United States with chemical warfare and the New World Order was going to take over. They were doomsday nutjobs. Harris was arrested several times throughout his life for threatening to use biological warfare in several places, including once on New York City's subway system. He also published several books and articles about bio warfare, anti-semitism, and the evils of the black race. Fast forward, the actual word “chemtrails” made its first appearance on January 8, 1999, in the article, “Contrails: Poison From the Sky” written by another whack job named William Thomas. He appeared on Art Bell's national radio program and the whacko chemtrail conspiracy theory gained major popularity from then on.
>>534043156This is been going on for over 10 years now its not going to kill you think about it
>>534050535No it started because they tried to flood the ho chi ming trail by extending the wet season in Vietnam during the war. It worked but the gooks just used boats, all conspiracies start somewhere as something real and get latched onto by tards and well poisoners
>>534050168all ive found so far from the guy is this >A plastic sheet covering tomato plants—shielded from direct sky exposure—was found to be contaminated with alarming levels of heavy metals, including aluminum, lead, cadmium, mercury, copper, nickel, and barium."These findings align perfectly with our own research," Wigington stated. "The precipitation samples we’ve tested match the chemical signature of coal fly ash, a primary material cited in geoengineering patents. This isn’t accidental pollution—it’s a targeted deployment." so, it matches something that is produced industrially and was found on a sheet covering some tomato plants. would really wan to know a lot more details before going any farther with what it could mean. stuff can be transported by wind and rain for very great distances.
>>534050145>That doesn't mean it wasn't ascending or descending>How close do you think a plane would have to be in altitude for it to "disrupt" a contrail?>It seems like you want to believe, and so are just dismissing any explanations that are offered to youI accept this as plausible, just as I accept weather modification operations also being a thing.
>>534045244They could be spraying their own mom and just simply don't care i suppose...and what nobody is ever able to answer is why are they spraying?
>He who controls the weather will control the world.-Lyndon Baines Johnsonhttps://youtube.com/watch?v=EvNNTlU7I_IThis has been going on for decades
The j*ws are using their useful idiot social climbers (freemasons) to have politicians siphon off goyim taxes into off-the-books black budget military industrial complex programs to physically and psychologically harm you. There are military officers right now sitting in Eglin Airforce Base doing psyops on you by posting on 4chan, while these planes fly overhead spraying you with aerosolized metals which both cause health problems and manipulate the weather.
>>534050454im genuinely concerned about them doing itThis is NOT fucking normalsomething should be done about this and im literally shaking right now
>>534043156A PLANE JUST FLEW OVER MY HOUSE
>>534043204That's Middletown, New Jersey
>>534043156Oh you mean the "water vapor" that hangs in the sky for 3 hours isn't plain water vapor? Surely not.
Do we have any actual Weather-Modification Denier schizos ITT?
>>534051018>im shakingM.J.Fox? Is that you
>>534051139clouds, made of water vapor, can also stay in the air for extended periods. strange but true
>>534051223oof. he made a good movie about that btw. its called 'Still - a micheal j fox movie'. recommended if you're interested in his movies and stuff.
>>534050535Commercial airplanes burn varying amounts of fuel depending on the type and size. For example, a Boeing 747-400 burns about 10-11 tons of fuel per hour...You have to dig deeper !You will end up by Jet fuel producers /Airline and aeroplain makers Lobby !It is more convenient when people speak about non existent Geoengenering instead of Jet engine exhaust gas emissions contribute significantly to climate change by releasing carbon dioxide (CO2) and nitrogen oxides (NOx), which can lead to the formation of contrails and cirrus clouds that trap heat in the atmosphere. Additionally, these emissions can degrade local air quality, causing respiratory problems and other health issues for nearby populations.
>>534051232Wait till they find out about how carcingenic petrol engine exhausts are, you cant really see the fumes though so tards dont believe they exist
>>534051273I saw clips of it, looked like it would have been a sad eatch, kinda like the last norm mcdonald special he released before he died. RIP norm, i walked through blood and bone to find my brother, can you check northern canada for me
>>534044018>but the trails themselves increase Earth's effective albedo and thus reduce absorbed solar radiation at the surface.No, wrong. Contrail cirrus allows incoming solar shortwave to pass through but blocks outbound longwave.
well a biblically accurate flood happened the other day when trump had an assassination attemptthe richat structure opened up and drained the water no im not telling from where or where the water drained to you arent ready
>>534044152That's conspiracy hypothesist.Don't poison the well.Believe all schizos.>>534044376I'm glad Brazil and Jennifer Lawrence wake up right after the USA to balance things out.
>>534043156If there's an airport nearby you'll see "chemtrails" more often because planes will dump fuel for safer landing or weight correction. Not everything is a conspiracy.
>>534050221>Strong incentive for burger adversaries to highlight fake if it happened>Strong incentive for burger adversaries to highlight fake if it happenedin what way? and what makes you an 'adversary'?the USSR was allies with the US until the very end (cold war was a meme)>>Hillary Clinton ran a pedo ring from a basement of a pizza shop>I am on the fence about that one. Too much incentive for both sides to mislead public to reach meaningful conclusion.its well poisoning, there is more than enough shady shit with hillary killing people (seth rich) and connections to epstein.
>>534051451he was actually really upbeat and cool about it all. definitely not a sad movie at all and very interesting. check it out if you want.
>>534043156Those are from normal planes flying over retard.
>>534051478It appears so:>High, thin clouds (like cirrus) tend to have a net warming effect because they allow most sunlight to pass through but effectively trap outgoing infrared radiation. >Low, thick clouds generally have a net cooling effect because their high reflectivity (albedo) outweighs their infrared trapping.
>>534043156Nope and people don’t believe me when I tell them I never see them where I am. I saw a ton in Europe though. I looked up what planes they were and they were all commercial jets. Geo engineering and HAARP is real but everyone who thinks a contrail is a chemtrail should be gassed
>>534043156Lmao this is pretty blatant. Probably cloud seeding but maybe some mystery shit that causes cancer. Or trannies. Probably even the pilot doesn't know
>>534051735I bet weather modification deniers believe Epstein running a MAD blackmail ring is a conspiracy theory.
>>534051806I might give it a look im sure its less gay and cringe than alot of modern media
>>534052195>weather modification deniersthere's nothing to deny. thats public info. you're either informed or not
>>534052497just a well made, interesting and fun biography film. autobiography almost since its him talking to camera much of the time.
It's alchemical. The formula that turns men into women and women into men. Just your typical kabbalistic joo inversion ritual think nothing of it goy
>>534051646It is extremely unusual for aircraft to dump fuel - majority of narrow bodies don't even have dump valves and just land overweight when they have to.Only happens when heavies have to return to their origin due to mechanical or medical, and only over sea or unpopulated area due to predictable effects of literal tons of jet fuel falling from the sky.It happens approx. 15 times a year, per FAA figures and in first world countries a report must always be written and publicly filed when it does.
>>534052546But there are people who deny the existence of "chemtrails".How would one go about aerial weather modification without producing "chemtrails"?It's as absurd as the thought of pinning the Weasel without the drug-fueled hunt leading up to the climax.
>>534052800>first world countriesuhhh you mean...>the goylem CAPITALIST countries that 'won' ww2also, who tf cares if they report or not? how many are under-reporting? the FDA approves of fluoride, MRNA injections, and genital mutilation here
>>534043156I hate Audi drivers, too.But what can you do.
>>534043156>get to places at 600 mph, flying at 30,000 feet>having pristine blue skypick one
>>534043427But at what cost? 61 airplanes flights for inducing rain?
>>534053222>How would one go about aerial weather modification without producing "chemtrails"?i mean technically flying a kite in a storm and changing the direction of lightening is 'weather modification'. its a term that means nothing really.silver iodide and aluminum are just things that we know they use.
>>534049884you can't debunk the arguments so you attack the source. yes he was wrong about the myocarditis shot. funny though how you well poisoning shills always try to throw rational skepticism about the vaccine under the flat earth bus.anyways your deliberate misunderstanding regarding polaris is corrected here
>>534049884>muh southern cross
>>534054231while i'm at it i'll post this one as well correcting them on cameras and refractionand of course the proof earth is round that i already posted>>534049633
>>534054269I love how the retards have stopped saying "Why does Polaris never move?" because they've been shown that it does actually move, and so now they have to shift to the Southern Cross
>>534053749Have you ever seen the sky rain aluminum?
>>534043156I have a higher accuracy predicting the weather of the next days, than any meterological services available. My method? Looking at the sky and reading chemtrail patterns. I am not joking. >grid: cloudy (thick), rainy>parallel lines: cloudy (thin, torn), dry>irregular: cloudless>none: normal weather without extremes, normal (and genuinely beautiful) clouds
>>534054392>because they've been shown that it does actually movethose fags have been shown this over and again for years and years. they'll just wait a bit then start up with it again like with every other stupid thing they post.
>>534045267Lmao funny shit
>>534050061>which ones are you thinking of?>Operation Sea-Spray (1950)The U.S. Navy sprayed Serratia marcescens and Bacillus globigii (then believed harmless, if you believe that) over San Francisco from a ship off the coast.>Operation LAC (Large Area Coverage, 1957–1958)The U.S. Army Chemical Corps dispersed zinc cadmium sulfide from a C-119 aircraft over much of the U.S., from the Rockies to the Atlantic. Cadmium is now recognized as toxic and potentially carcinogenic.>Project 112 and Project SHAD (1960s–1970s)Included the use of Venezuelan equine encephalitis virus and simulants for anthrax and botulinum toxin.>UK-US Joint Trials (1950s–1970s)Similar tests in Dorset (DICE trials) released Serratia marcescens and anthrax simulants.so it's not like there isn't a precedent for this. all classified programs they denied at the time.you can argue those aren't widespread enough i suppose. but several major operations over 20-30 years is fairly widespread. >>534050691>stuff can be transported by wind and rain for very great distances.exactly. it's actually hard to prove with absolute 100% conviction and most people wouldn't believe it anyways even if we had smoking gun 100% proofwe might have to wait a few decades for a half-assed declassification where they feebly admit "yes we sprayed you with the following chemicals and viruses during the 2000s and 2020s but we thought at the time it was harmless"
>>534054727because they don't believe it themselves, it's just pilpul. they're shills
>>534043824>those are normal contrails calm down
>>534054908>so it's not like there isn't a precedent for this.ive agree that there is. but those things could be detected easily - thats why those things were dispersed in the first place. the only thing anyone today has claimed to detect in association with the claimed chemtrails is some stuff thats suspiciously like fly ash.>where they feebly admit "yes we sprayed you with the following chemicals and viruses during the 2000s and 2020s but we thought at the time it was harmless"perhaps....but thats not the same as what chemtrail guys are claiming, which is a constant mass long term program involving all commercial aircraft.
>>534043427>be me>smoking a joint at the back door>see a plane doing chemtrails>I wave my fist at it angrily like an old american at kids on his lawn>it stops>I kek>it gets past me and starts chemtrails againI count this as an absolute win.
>>534055621jet fuel additives are very highly controlled and centralized, very few people have access to that
>>534043156Cloud Seeding.
>>534055981which additives?
>>534044013Yes.
>>534056179well that's the thing, we wouldn't know and they wouldn't tell us and we'd have no way of figuring it out, we don't have access to that.
>>534056268so you haven't looked at the kinds of things that are added but you're ready to state that 'very few people have access to that'. interesting.
>>534043156https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smartdust
>>534056350you're being pedantic. all i'm saying is that we don't have access to the facilities where additives are mixed into the jet fuel, very few people do have access to that for obvious security reasons. so we have to take their word on it what they say they're putting in there.i've never said i have 100% conclusive proof of chemtrails, that's never been my argument. i'm saying its not impossible or implausible that such a thing could happen that's all. it's as easy as additives in the jet fuel and we wouldn't know and it would be very hard for any of us to conclusively prove.
>It's just steam from planes goy! don't worry! Fuck off, I m old enough to remember that skies didn't look like a melting nightmare decades ago.I don't know what exactly they are spraying, or why they are fine with breathing that shit themselves.
>>534056676I haven't heard the "lol, right, the pilots are knowingly poisoning their own families" shilling for a while.
>>534056557Congratulations for falling for a fake meme and spreading it
>>534057087Glow harder, glownigger
>>534056676>so we have to take their word on it what they say they're putting in there.or you can look up the reports on everything thats added and go from there. speculating about secret additives is fine so long as you realize its nothing but that.> i'm saying its not impossible or implausible that such a thing could happen that's all. many things are possible. how likely they are is another matter> would be very hard for any of us to conclusively prove.depends what the claim was regarding the purpose and effect of such a program. if its to make people sick or dumb them down, that would require that the harmful substances be everywhere and at a level known to cause such results. if its to do something to the climate, that too would be possible to observe and model the effect.its this idea of some massive secret spraying program that stretches credulity. the claimed effects are out of all proportion to reason and evidence.>>534056772i remember seeing grids 30 years ago. the idea of secret spraying programs has been around a long time.
>>534043156>schizos pretend to not understand water vaporHave we really come to this?
>>534056772Even if it's simply condensation trails, it covers the sky in an unnatural blanket of wispy cirrus.
>>53405725229 posts, who's paying you?We've seen what's happened in Iran with the sudden rain.There's no way that toothpaste shit on the sky is water.
>>534057403what does lots of water vapor high up in the sky do though?
>>534057429its called engaging in a thread and having conversations. sorry you dont believe what i said but its true. i remember because id just heard about chemtrails for the first time and i guess thats when i started paying a bit more attention to clouds.>theres no way its waterand you've got what evidence to say its anything other than water?
They block out the sunkeep you in da matrixback to your roomniggayou can'tsee our space shipsPlanet Nibiru,the big magic Xmy niggas spray some cloudsand we put youin a hexThe muggles don't look upwe thought they'd never knewhuman cattle farming demonsmade our skies less blue.
>>534057252>or you can look up the reports yes that's exactly what i meant by "we have to take their word on it"i don't know why they're doing it, i'm just speculating. but they've done it in the past for "research" just spraying people with viruses and chemicals from planes in the sky for decades, people got sick. they got away with it. as i covered here >>534054908they have the means. there are many possible motives. and these people in power are sick fucks. and they've done similar things before. it wouldn't require some massive coverup of hundreds of thousands, it just requires additives in the jet fuel and very few people have access to those facilities so we just have to trust their reports.it's nowhere near the massive implausible stretch you think it is. it's reasonable speculation to assume something like this could happen.
>>534057486See: >>534051920
>>534051497Inner erf? the second ocean? land of the trees? the green knight? ferngully?
>>534043661>no evidence of the factories producing the millions of tons of required chemicals>no evidence of the gargantuan fleet required to transport these chemicals>no evidence of the massive storage facilities required to hold them>spending trillions to spray chemicals over empty mountains and farmlandthis conspiracy makes no sense at all from a logistical standpoint.
>>534057887atlantis, it will rise again, q predicted this
>>534043156I know. Audis really look like shit these days.
>>534057729>it's nowhere near the massive implausible stretch you think it isi just think theres a big difference between the examples you gave and the kind of thing that chemtrail people are talking about. the largest scale one you mentioned was with the zinc, and that was easily detectable. the idea that fleets of commercial airliners are constantly spraying 'something' that is either harmful to people or to do something to the climate etc, is a whole other level and lacks any evidence.the bigger something is in scope the more people know about it, and the more likely it is that information comes out. apply the same way of thinking to this subject as you do to flat earth and the moonlandings being fake and you'll see where im coming from.>>534057869yes, clouds. thats what i was getting at.
>the thousands of people required to mine, process, transport, store, and load these chemicals are in on it bro>their family members and friends never ask them what they do bro>they're willing to spray their own home and loved ones with these chemicals bro
>>534058029I have a theory that New York City is actually Atlantis, underneath the city is a broken down spaceship which is why the energy here in NYC area is so good. NYC is sitting on top of a flying city created by the ancient race that created humans with DNA testing, and ultimately ascended to pure energy beings. Watch Stargate Atlantis series for the deets.
>>534045267rare funny indian lol
>>534050157space being fake and gay has almost nothing to do with flat earth shilltard glownigger worshipper
>>534058902if you're so desperate for the conversation (again) fuck off and make a thread about it
>>534058130>the bigger something is in scope the more people know about it, and the more likely it is that information comes out.it's called the big lie, the bigger the lie the more people believe nobody could possibly tell a lie so big. and i specifically said it could be very small in scope, just the highly secure facilities where jet fuel is added would be enough, not many people involved overall.>the kind of thing that chemtrail people are talking about. i'm not responsible for what other people are saying. its not some hivemind monolith or religion. i'm free to say what i'm saying, i don't have to agree with everything anyone has ever said about chemtrails.>largest scale one you mentioned was with the zinc, and that was easily detectable.and the viruses, remember. you can detect a virus easily but pinning the source on chemtrails how would you even do that? think for a moment, those declassified operations, is that all of them? could some still be classified? they covered it up for decades. maybe some of it they never stopped covering up. but they were absolutely spraying us with chemicals and viruses from the sky before so it can happen again. the thinking i apply to flat earth and moon landing is completely different. i examined their claims, found them lacking, and in the case of the earth being round there are observations i can personally make to prove it. some chemtrail claims are lacking, but i have my own claims that i havent been convinced yet are lacking. i am not 100% certain of chemtrails, but it doesn't seem like some far out impossibility either, for the reasons i explained.
>>534051735>Hillary Clinton ran a pedo ring from a basement of a pizza shopretard that bong tripped your shill ass up with wellpoisoningnobody ever claimed she was "running a pedo ring out of a pizza shop"lurk moar newkike
>>534058902the three body problem is irrelevant. if we can't solve for it that only means the solar system is not sustainable forever and planets will start ejecting themselves at some point billions or hundreds of billions of years from now rather than maintain stable equilibrium forever.
>>534054231>you can't debunk the arguments so you attack the source.the arguments are counter claims without evidence ot back it up, therefore non argumentsthe source literally advocates for pharma kike government institutional LIEStherefore, the "source" can rightfully be dismissedtake your boosters vaxxoid BOOTLICKER
>>534059200the arguments are simple observations you can make yourself. get a pair of eclipse glasses and check to see if the sun appears to change size.
>>534054392>because they've been shown that it does actually moveproof?keep defending government institutions glownigger bootlicker>OI THEY WOULD LIE TO US ABOUT EVERYTHING MUH ISRAEL>but they would never lie to us about space, no never!!!!lmao I am laughing so hard at you
>>534059333Clouds are fake, they weigh too much and would crash down to earth. Aircraft would collide with them. Also nobody has ever brought a piece of a cloud back to earth. Not one picture of a man or even a bird walking on a cloud that isn't cgi. No clouds in ancient paintings. No one has ever been able to create an actual cloud and make it float and precipitate in a controlled lab environment. The government and science lie about everything, why believe them when they say clouds are real? Clouds are fake and gay. You don't trust the science and believe clouds do you?
>>534059111Planets are organic living matter that live and die just like plants and trees. Humans have to evolve and grow enough to jump from planet to planet at the appropriate times, like ants jumping between grass stalks that age quickly.
>>534057603>insisting on my narrative while dishonestly dismissing you is just having a conversationyou have been asked in the past to post arm with timestamp and have refused every time with every low iq subhuman excuse on the listkys nigger
>>534057729>>534058130>what is data usage vs wifiSAMEFAG WILL NOT POST ARM ON DESK WITH TIMESTAMP
>>534058975you brought up pressure mediumsyou have yet to prove they can exist in an open vacuumstay mad poopleet
>>534059333>proof?Nautical almanacs across 150 years show the angle to Polaris has changedIt's literally the image of the post you replied to, you retarded shill cocksuckerDo you think your grandparents would be proud of what you do, lying to people on the Internet for money?
>>534059007>it's called the big lie, the bigger the lie the more people believe nobody could possibly tell a lie so bigno, thats a different thing more related to rhetoric. im just talking about the scope of the program being speculated about. let just say its in the jet fuel and not something sprayed otherwise. firstly thats going to almost certainly rule out any kind of biological material like bacteria, and probably viruses too. what would that leave? what evidence is there for any of this? all the examples you provide are about airplanes dumping stuff out by itself, not in the fuel.then, there would be a hell of a lot more additive being used, since its generally added in only very small amounts. what could there be thats added in such small amounts that can survive passage through the combustion of a jet engine and then go on to cause.....whatever harms you're thinking of?>i'm free to say what i'm saying,yes i understand that anon, im just trying to address the usual chemtrail stuf, like the dumbing down thing one french flag said. you haven't made a definite claim so far as i remember.> you can detect a virus easily but pinning the source on chemtrails how would you even do that? ok, but what harmful virus is everywhere causing harm to people and how can we check if its naturally there of has been sprayed through jet engines? they are quite hot you know. >but it doesn't seem like some far out impossibility either, for the reasons i explained.maybe you haven't looked into all this as much as you have the other stuff. to me such a large scale program (spraying everywhere, all the time, using 'something' that can pass through jet engines and that does 'something' to people) seems almost as unlikely as the landings being faked and remember, you already expressed dislike for just taking other peoples word for things when it comes to reports on the fuel additives, and yet we have to take other peoples word for it when dealing all kinds of things in Apollo.
>>534059605Metereologists will tell you this image is real, and the trust the science fags will believe it without question, but this is cgi and the government always lies. Youre a transfaggot if you even think there's big fluffly clouds overhead and all this shit. Your brain has been jewified to the max, wake up transfaggot everything is fake.
>>534059111the three body prob literally proves its not "gradual" in any sense, according to the math of real experts, not dog fucking shitskins on a visa, is that chaos would of happened at the first rotationyou pretending to be this retarded is not an argument against the FACTS
>>534043156>east Poland, country at war with russia 25k to east, no planes even in Lublin - 70 west planes do not leave (((trails)))last summer been in warsaw and mazury, no trailsthank god i was born in east poland
>>534059314>the arguments are from simple observationLMAO you lost tranny, my observations contradict your false claims and appeal to vagueness as an authority
>>534043156the usa military is doing it to you. why fight for usa govt that hates you?
>>534057187you can have thing like that have bt or even shor range wifi capabilities but not gps
>>534059741>wont post armI just dont care for the opinions of foreign subhumanssimple as
>>534059713yeah well there tens of thousands of photos, hundreds of hours of video. and every "proof" it didn't happen can be easily debunked. everyone saw those giant expensive saturn v rockets, might as well just go to the fucking moon for real after buying those, thats the expensive and hard part. i have no reason to believe the van allen belts work in any other way then the way they were described.microscopic organisms could survive a jet engine, especially viruses. there are plenty of infections people can get without even knowing what they're infected with or noticing a connection with other infected. some of these things can lay dorment for years without causing symptoms.im not trying to convince you chemtrails are real, im trying to convince you they arent entirely implausible.
>>534046862>those fake moon landing and flat earth threads are posted around the clock 24/7 by a team of paid shills for the purpose of well poisoning.noall they needed is small flat earth society in america and giving flat earth vids on yt artificial spreadthere are retards who genualy believe / belived it (known one stoner in uk who did, he was like "they do that to take as away from christianity")
>>534060130>yeah well there tens of thousands of photos, hundreds of hours of video.but enough about Stanley Kubricks filmography portfolio
>>534059784no its just saying that three or more bodies can not remain in orbit of each other forever. not that they cant temporarily orbit for a long period of time. thats it. and thats fine, maybe they can't. maybe they can, we havent figured out the math yet. doesnt matter anyways. you're the one pretending to be retarded>>534059872there is no vagueness here >>534049633
>>534043156Buddy wait until you start lookong at satalite captures over population hubs. We've been burning hydrocarbons in our high troposhere for near 50 years. The air doesn't move much up there thats why we use it for air travel. The airline industry has literally destroyed our atmosphere for money.
>>534060130>microscopic organisms could survive a jet engine, especially viruses.are you sure? 1700c seems pretty high.>i have no reason to believe the van allen belts work in any other way then the way they were described.what reason do you have to believe that jet fuel additives contain harmful substances that are then ejected onto the population? > im trying to convince you they arent entirely implausiblei dont think they are entirely impalusible. im juts trying to discuss why i think that they are highly unlikely in the format they are usually presented, and that any kind of biological agent being spread using small amounts of jet fuel additive is almost certainly not happening.
>>534059784>according to the math of real expertsYou have no clue what the "math" is about the three body problem or the reason why it exists
>>534060516what reason do i have? simple, the people in power are sick fucks who will do everything they possibly can to ruin us. means and motive. and belief is a strong word, i believe its plausible, im not certain its happening. and yes viruses are hardy fucks and theres more to it then that in how jet engines work but the thread will be dead before i can explain it all.
>>534060705>what reason do i have? simple, the people in power are sick fucks who will do everything they possibly can to ruin us. means and motive.but not lie about the van allen belts?
>>534060348>three or more bodies can not remain in orbit of each other foreverThat is not the three body problem.The three body problem, or more generally the N-body problem, is that there is no general equation that you can write which will describe the behavior of more than 2 bodies at all points of timeThere just aren't enough equations for the number of variablesIt is a purely mathematical problem and says nothing about the behavior of those three bodies
>>534060516>samefag straight up tries to appear as the smartest anon in the room to control and consensus crack conversationthe fact you are trying so hard in this thread and in the "Trust your government science institutions about the nature of your world" in the FE threads is proof you are a shillpost arm with timestamp ranjeshyour entire schtick is basically >Trust your governments claims goy!LOL
>>534060516also 800,000 people were infected when they sprayed la in the 50s with operation sea spray. and that was just spraying off a boat vs spraying from the skies daily for decades
>>534060878post arm with timestamp ranjeet
>>534060802i have no reason to believe they lied about that. their explanations of the structure of the belts makes sense to me. you move through the belts quickly you're mostly fine. sure it could all be some big lie to pretend we can go to the moon but fucking why? they would love to have us believe we're trapped on the planet and can never go anywhere, if anything id think they were lying if they said we couldnt get past the belts.
>they wont prove they are white because they are paid jeet shillsLMAO
