Why did Europe from Lisbon to Vladivostok fail? It was a good idea
We don't want anything to do with Europeans. Only Meds and French are cool, the rest are crabs in a cuck bucket.
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>>534045705You are the turksmell.
>>534045919You are brown and you spam nigger dicks on /pol/. Leave that country and go back to your tribe, you do not belong there
>>534045705Because the fall of the american empire got in the way. Once that's over, we'll continue with the process of growing together again.>>534045789You should swallow less war propaganda, ivan. Russia and germany are natural partners, and as soon as pragmatism returns, europe will be built around this partnership.
>>534045789You're literally Russian
>>534046048sus bulgaristan
>>534045705Literal Islamic republics are cleaner, safer and Whiter than the UK at this point.
eurids generally don't want us there, even in the 1990s when yeltsin was a complete western suck-up, and floated around the idea of russia joining nato/EU, europeans declined it even back thenoh and we also have the hardest requirements for visas and naturalization than even magherbis do.europe from oslo to cape town is more likely than from lisbon to vladivostok at this point
>>534046217>osloOCЛo.POTтepдaм.ГЛAЗгo.
East German Communism
>>534046217It's insane how much you guys deny reality. Europe needs continuous energy supplies, and you need continuous energy sales as the basis of your national budget. Nord stream 2 was the perfect and only possible solution to this situation, and that's why we'll return to it.
>>534046078>Russia and germany are natural partnersNo, we are not and we should not be. All Germany wants from us are cheap resources, which they use to build up against us. We tried to be freidns with them many times and it always ends up wih them backstabbing us. There is no point in cooperating with the european, he is slimy and deceitful by design.
>>534046578you'll be getting energy supplies from israel soon enough
>>534046578i'm not denying reality, you are. you guys have been screeching about green energy for years at this point. and if that doesn't work you'll just do what >>534046703 said or maybe force norway to increase their oil extraction or whatever.besides sanctions won't be lifted from russia any time soon anyway, even if putler were to be hanged in the next hour and the war ended, it still won't happen (syria is still sanctioned to shit for example) so there won't be any grounds for cooperation in at least 10 years
>>534046578>and you need continuous energy saleswe do, but not for cheap prices solely by the market prices, like anywhere else
>>534046582Russians have interbred with bugs so much that you can't even call them Russians anymore.
>>534047005>Russians have interbred with bugs so much that you can't even call them Russians anymore.whatever you say, nafri jewmutt rapefugee
>>534047005I don't care about being white. You can call me Asian if you fancy.
>>534047116>I don't care about being white.oх yж эти нoвиoпы...
>>534046582Your feelings play no role in geostrategic and economic realities. As soon as the mutts power to use europe as leverage against you is lost, you will see where the natural interests of these countries lie.>>534046703Israel will not exist in a multipolar world if iran exists. That's why they dragged the mutts into the war.>>534046828Sanctions only work as long as the world trades in USD. And we are currently seeing movement on that point.>>534046992That's simply not true. You need a large, consistent customer base for the gas. Which is precisely why you granted discounts. Intermittent sales at higher prices offer no planning security.
bad people deserve bad ideas
>>534047225>Sanctions only work as long as the world trades in USDretard the EU has imposed a shit ton of their own sanctions. the EU is a large bureaucratic network so undoing them, even if you all were willing would take a lot of time, and the EU would not be willing, because poland, the baltics, czechia and finland would all vote to keep russia sanctioned and isolated
>>534046992>>534046828kek z Russians:2022, soon we will rule over you; we are the master race2026, yes, we could trade again, but as equalsBut yes, the sanctions against Russia won't be eased that quickly - not for a long time.
>>534047338>every single russian is a hivemindsmartest kraut
>>534047225>Your feelings play no role in geostrategic and economic realities.The reality is that Europe has swiched to different energy suppliers and Russia has switched to other customers. We do no need each other anymore. Most importantly - Europe does not need us.
>>534047225>You need a large, consistent customer base for the gas.yes, the gas sold for the market prices, like ANYWHERE ELSE; we're living in the capitalist world, if you haven't noticed what's the point selling our resources for fucking chump change?
>>534047440>what's the point selling our resources for fucking chump change?i don't know, ask putin
>>534045789>don't want anything to do with Europeansand yet you're coming here in droves the moment you save 5 rubles but yeah, sure Ivan, play the superior race cards it suits you from your yard toilet, filthy nigger
>>534047557What does tourism have to do with broader economic/political relations?
>>534046078>are natural partnersonce they've rid themselves of subhumans like POOtin, maybeand then maybe rid themselves of their superiority complex (which means never)they maybe look like you and talk like you but they are fuckin niggers BELIEVE
>>534047616>What does tourism have to dotourism ? nigger my city is half russian
>>534047616>What does tourism have to do with broader economic/political relations?don't be asking questions, whilst talking to roaches/gypsies; they're lower IQ subhumans https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulgarian_Turkshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romani_people_in_Bulgaria
>>534047705You could thank Russia for making your city whiter, I guess
>>534047338>not for a long timehopefully never while they also learn treating your customers like shit and threatening them doesn't end well for you
>>534047825ah yes here we are and yet you doesn't want to stay in snow Nigeria, do you now Ivan ?Hopefully you'll die miserable death and we'll fuck your sister very soonDie nowdie die
>>534047335The euro is the little brother of the USD. It doesn't make its own decisions. If the USD were to fall as the currency used for international trade, there would be no more sanctions, since any sanctions would be easily circumvented and therefore pointless. Poland and hungary elected liberal governments because germany threatened to cut their gibs. If germany tells them to be silent, they will be. Unfortunately, since world war II, american interests have played a greater role in germany's actions than german interests. That's also why they haveturks instead of portuguese. But that's precisely the point: if this influence disappears, we will see very different decisions.>>534047407>>534047440Germany has been searching for an alternative for years and hasn't found one yet. Instead, they've dismantled energy-intensive industries. And your national budget has been a rollercoaster since you stopped selling your gas to europe.>>534047655Even during the cold war, they were reliable partners. It never made sense for anyone on mainland europe to exclude russia from europe.
>>534047828>your city whiteryou would know everything about that yourself now, would you Moshe ?
>>534048084>And your national budget has been a rollercoaster since you stopped selling your gas to europe.nothing has changed, whether you sell your resources for pennies, or not -- it doesn't make a diff, obviously >>534048056>ah yes here we are and yet you doesn't want to stay in snow Nigeria, do you now Ivan ?>Hopefully you'll die miserable death and we'll fuck your sister very soon>Die now>die die>t. you
>>534048356>doesn't make a diff, obviouslyoh really you don't say Pidor phahahah
>>534048356>nothing has changed, whether you sell your resources for pennies, or not -- it doesn't make a diff, obviouslyHow do you think you financed your economic growth and the resulting increase in quality of life since the 90s? You are a developing country. If nothing changes, that's a bad sign.
Because Europe is a continent not a culture
>>534048538>How do you think you financed your economic growth and the resulting increase in quality of life since the 90s?>domestic market doesn't exist supposedly in his mindlmao
>>534048659So, after the complete collapse due to the transition to a market economy, you created wealth without imports? I think you should revise your knowledge of history and economics.
>>534047655>superiority complexyou're overestimating us, gypsoid/roach, most Russians actually lack superiority complex, which is a shame, unfortunately -- judeo-communist past with its shabbos-goy cuckoldist egalitarism, and all that >>534049009>So, after the complete collapse due to the transition to a market economy,the collapse was due to the nepo privatization, not due to the transition to a market economy, specifically
>>534049221Just as an example for learning purposes. During your boom between 2000 and 2012, 40%-60% of all machinery and equipment needed by the russian market was imported.
>>534049009>you should revise your knowledgeyou're talking to a halfwit at best you shouldn't expect any knowledge because there is none>>534049221>was due to the nepo privatizationnow ask yourself who allowed that NIGGER ? Me ? that's why you'll be ruled by enormous faggots like POO-teen because you're spinless retards
>>534049367Machine tools: even 90-95%. Oil and gas industry: 60-80%. Pharmaceuticals and chemicals: 70-80%.
>>534049543*of the machinery and equipment
>>534049416>Me ?nice self-insert, yet no argumentation...>POO-teenPutin wasn't even in charge of anything, when that notorious nepo privatization happened, schizoidyou're literally obsessed over BIG SCARY MONKEY, you shitskin laughable gypsy-turkoid. seek help. :D>>534049367>of all machinery and equipmenthow does some of the imported machinery/equipment has anything to do with the existance of the domestic market as a whole? great false equivalence.
>>534049416And even if he is one, it's pointless to exclude russia because of that. Their st. petersburg elite is quite pragmatic and pro-european.#>>534049877What exactly would you have sold each other without the machinery whose import you financed with energy exports? Beets and vodka?
>>534050163>soldyou're switching the topic againeither stick to the topic, or don't argue it all, lol
>>534050464What do you think a market is? It's things are bought and sold. Things that have to be produced first. And if you don't have the machines to produce these things, then you only buy and sell what you make with your own hands. By the way, you're still extremely dependent on imports of goods for your industry, and china doesn't supply them for free either. You've only managed to reduce your dependence on consumer goods and even turn it into a surplus. But which has further increased the needs of your industry.
>>534050742>consumer goods*consumer goods imports
>>534050163>st. petersburg eliteall the rulling class is in Moscow for obvious reasons, lmao...nice knowledge of Russia ITT, kek>>534050742>What do you think a market is?i know what a market is, the topic was the DOMESTIC market, namely, not the international one; from the international market we didn't earn shit
>>534050853It's best not to look up which city all the powerful people in your country come from, it might shock you.>>534050853That's why I wrote>What exactly would you have sold each otherThis is the colloquial economic definition of a single market.
>>534051011>It's best not to look up which city all the powerful people in your country come from, it might shock you.Putin is the only one from Petrograde originally in the whole Kremlin, but he's still in Moscow, and he's not pro-EU by no means, lol
>>534045705No. Moscow despises Europe which is why they've been invading Ukraine for 12 years now.All pro-European countries need to work together to protect ourselves from the US, China, and Russia.
>>534051558>the US, Chinaboth controlled by the same kikes, just like the EU, lol
It's Vancouver to Vladivostok now retard.
>>534051357Wladimir Putin, Dmitri Medwedew, Nikolai Patruschew, Igor Setschin, Alexei Miller, Patriarch Kirill, even Jewgeni Prigoschin.
>>534052212>Wladimir Putin, Dmitri Medwedew, Nikolai Patruschew, Igor Setschin, Alexei Miller, Patriarch Kirill, even Jewgeni Prigoschin.and still none of them is pro-EU, and are placed in Moscow
>>534052068Let's add Beijing for maximum amerishart seethe
>>534052370Yes, that's fine. You're the perfect example of a russian from the people. Emotional and anti-european. Whereas your saint petersburg elite is pragmatic and pro-european. Many books have already been written about this. If you want to prevent what's coming, you'll probably have to start a revolution. I'm out.
>>534045789Look at this mos cowpoop worshipper.
>>534052642>of a russian from the people.i'm not, that's the thing >anti-europeani'm not anti-European, i'm myself European, obviously -- have Russian and western Euro descent it's that i'm against the kikes in Brussels and their judeo-liberalism, specifically >petersburg elite there's no elite in Petersburg, just appointed bureaucrat straigh up from the Kremlin, there again>pragmatic idk how tf selling resources for pennies is being pragmatic for us in your head
Russians keep chimping out
