>The only way you can possibly look at someone and their symptoms and match it up with the disease that matches those symptoms is if you go to school for 20 years. Nobody else is capable of doing this in society. Once you learn to match things, you will be paid 500k a year and become the most respected class in society. If anyone questions you, they are a chud.
>>534049667specialists are fine, family doctor's are largely scammers selling whatever the last pharma rep who gave them a free lunch was peddling
It’s an important job and it’s the reason we have the best doctors in the world. Kys
>>534049667My doctor was literally googling stuff in front of my during my last visit. I think the skill level needed for general practice is at the level of auto mechanics.
you're right OP. who needs "professional doctors" when we have real methods like astrology, divination and palmestry
>>534049791>go to new doctor for yearly checkup>offered quit smoking drugs, hair loss, and ED prescriptions>i don't smoke, not balding, and we just had a babyyeah best doc- i mean salesmen
>>534050025That’s never happened to me
>>534049667A good doctor understands all the body's systems and how they interact and their interdependencies.All.It's a good job for highly educated high IQ people.
>>534049667What is a surgeon?Bro chill Imma Google and use ChatGPT to tell me how to remove your spleen.
Overdiagnosis is rampant too. Medical malpractice is the third or fourth leading cause of death. They try to hide this.Always repeat your tests, always go hydrated, and don't drink heavy or eat shit food/sugar for three days before it. Also verify what tests and why. Don't be a victim. Most doctors are allopathic and don't solve shit. They take 3 negatives to rule something out but only one positive for diagnosis. Scam.
Anyone who has had to deal a lot with doctors and hospital staff knows that most of them are complete idiots. It's one of the fields I look most forward to getting replaces by AI.
>>534050325i've never gotten cancer, so cancer patients must be lying too? are you fucking stupid?
>>534049667>Somehow after all this, they still misdiagnose people.
>>534049817If it's just a general doctor, that's basically the sum of their job, they just write out referrals to a few specialists
>>534049817in the old days they might look something up in a book that was sitting on their shelves. looking something up doesn't mean they dont know what they are doing, it just means that, as a guy who has to deal with literally any medical condition from one patient to the next, that his knowledge will tend towards breadth rather than depth. that he was looking something up means that he probably had narrowed down the issue to something more specific than he at that time had in his head.
>>534049667The medical class should be exterminated after the COVID fraud. Instead here we fucking are, absolutely nothing is happening.
Then just diagnose yourself with WebMd and AI. But you still can’t have prescription drugs without a license, so good luck with treatment. Echinacea, maybe?
>>534051020there were plenty came out against the vaxx. probably about the same % that refused it in the general population. remember, 90% of numerous countries took that shit.
>>534050775You’re just mad you failed high school biology and have to work at McDonald’s. Don’t worry the world needs hamburger flippers too.
>>534051369i worked at mcdonalds when i was younger but then i went to college and am fairly well-known in the industry i'm in. you sound upset with your little logic error there, which makes you a nigger. dance and entertain me jungle monkey
>>534050025>doctor tells me to not be a fag>I'm straightthis is why doctors are like so fucking toxic
>>534049817We don't use huge reference books anymore. I don't really know what you expect. >>534049667You live in a country with the best medical care and physicians in the world. If you had tried harder in highschool you wouldn't be making these threads. >>534050715>allopathicThat's why knowing statistics is very important in medicine. So you understand things like predictive values of test and don't fall for the homeopathic scams.
>>534049667>If anyone questions you WITHOUT SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE, they are a chud.ftfy
>>534049667>match it up with the disease that matches those symptomsyou don't understand troubleshooting and differential diagnosis. to put this in terms of something more familiar to your life, it's like your car being broken and you have an OBD2 error code. you blindly swap parts like a retard but it never actually fixes the problem -- because you don't understand how any of it works. many such cases when it comes to normalshit "intelligence."no, i'm not a doctor or a mechanic.
>>534049667Yes, actually. Left to their own devices, the retarded masses will try to cure cancer with turmeric and cayenne pepper salves. Even very smart men like Steve Jobs will try hippie bullshit like a fruit diet and kill themselves in the process. The masses are too ignorant to diagnose their medical conditions, let alone suggest cures. They struggle to take their medicine consistently and not wash it down with alcohol.
>>534049667HEY BUDDY WHILE YOU'RE LOOKING UP SYMPTOMS U MIGHT WANNA LOOK UP "DIFFERENTIAL DIAGNOSIS" TOO.- SENT FROM MY BLACKBERRY
>>534051172~90% of doctors are untrustworthy shills for big pharma who pushed fake vaccines for a hyped up flu, yes
>>534051866sure i dont deny it. but there are some good ones too, and ive known some. my point was that saying the entire 'class' of medical pros should be deleted is silly.
>>534049667Then go learn all that "easy matching" yourself faggot.
>>5340496678 types of blood in total tho, super important>4 types of blood >Positive and negative
>>534049817And what's wrong with googling stuff?Pretty much every job requiring expertise above cashier levels involves looking up or double checking particular details.Hell, even the shopping assistants at my local home improvement shop have to check the system to see if they're stocked up on what I need.
medical malpractice is the #3 cause of death in the USmy grandfather, while already towards the end, ended up dying in pain because the medical kit in his assisted living facility room had been robbed by one of the workers meaning he had no morphine or other pain alleviating drugs available when the facility staff finally got to his room after taking their fucking time with his monitors going off
>>534052162i expect a higher level of research than just googling and picking the seo weebmd copy ai slop article
>>534049667You know how most of European history is just literal barbers claiming to be surgeons? That's the reason why medical school exists. Don't be mad you are White and too stupid to enter and clear the exams.
>>534051999And you get to chose your doctor in Canada do you?
>>534052162>what's wrong with googling stuffI kinda noticed the quality decline in recent years, at peak google it might have been acceptable. but I guess its just more shocking they don't have a professional database search engine type thing specifically for doctors. if your doctor can't afford the subscription fee for a task focused search engine its a pretty big red flag.
>>534052879They have that. it's called uptodate. His doc was 100% using that and not "google".
>>534052574well, i cant get one at all because there aren't any. but yes, you can switch family doctors if you want and, crucially, if they are taking new patients. ive just been fortunate to know a couple very based medical pros in my life, one doctor and one dentist (who was seeing people during covid no matter what retarded shit the government demanded).
>>534052397>picking the seo weebmd copy ai slop articleHow do you know that's what he picked instead of an authoritative source?Or that he didn't remember some minor detail like the proper spelling of a drug or symptom and just double checked?Occasionally googling shit is perfectly normal for every expert, only essential oil salesmen know everything in all situations.
>>534053124>How do you know that's what he pickedhave you not used google in the past 5 years?
AI is def gonna reduce their bargaining power.
>>534053089You’re moving the goalposts anon>there are good doctors out there (ignoring the fact that even the “good ones” toed the line because otherwise they’d have lost their licenses)>can you have one of those “good” doctors in the current year?>well no, if I’m very lucky if I can get a doctor at allSwitching family doctors is nigh impossible as they view it as “poaching” patients from each other and generally wont do it even if they are accepting new patients, which they’re not. Shit’s fucked m8. I’ll stick with webmd and ordering prescription drugs off the internet if I think I need them that badly
>>534053625>You’re moving the goalposts anoni dont think so. you can move around if you want. id be happy i there were enough practices to get on the books of one at this point. and yea, of course its fucked. you can choose to not accept their advice though, which is something.
>>534053798>bro just pack up move to an imaginary place in Canada where there are doctors accepting new patients and hope you get assigned a “good” one Whew. Point is even the “good” doctors went along with pumping people full of experimental mRNA vaccines, ergo they’re not good doctors. Do no harm and all that
>>534049667COVID on top of the absurd costs incurred by the medical managerial class/goysurance industry apparatchiks completely ruined the reputation of the medical class. I personally have no qualms with them, but it feels like a bloated industry that's been sucking everyone dry for the benefit of corpo CEOs (Amazon is involved in pharmacy now for example) who employ people without a moral backbone who just nod and go along with it because "we deserve it for going to school for so long" yet the csuite people who employ them are making like 10x or more times their basic bitch 200k pharmacist salary. Basically one has to wonder...are medical staff truly intelligent, or are they just the goodest goys? It's probably both
>>534054030>hope you get assigned a “good” onewhat are you talking about? you can just call them up and see. anyway, i dont think we're really disagreeing and i get the feeling you're just trying to be difficult for whatever reason.see ya.
>>534049667AI in medicine will cut down costs dramatically, presumably. You'll still need physical foot soldiers/attendants until the tech gets there. But there is a lot of fat to be trimmed in medicine that extends into the schooling system. The developing world will also still need a lot of nurses/doctors until the tech gets there, if it ever does. Aids monkeys are still killing each other there
>>534052119>>534052461Much easier said than done, when the barrier to entry is far too high. Written and practical examinations will weed people out, the costs to become a doctor are incredibly high for whatever reason, yet there are always complaints about shortages.
>>534054387I think we agree that the system is fucked. Nice of you to run away from my basic point that if a doctor forced an unnecessary, untested vaccine on anyone to protect themselves they are, by definition, not a good doctor. They were not operating in the best interests of their patients like they took an oath to do. All of them. It’s a catch-22
>>534049770Family medicine is a specialty too dumb dumb
>>534056585a specialty in whoring out your registration for pfizer's symptom management instead of cures
>>534054824The US has an oversupply of Doctors (Medical school graduates).It has an undersupply of residency spots.Big difference.
>>534057274False.USA has a huge shortage of medical doctors.By tens of thousands.Up to 100,000 by 2040.They just made it possible for pajeets to skip residency and practice in the USA in almost every state.50% of U.S. doctors will be pajeets by 2050.
>>534057888kek you absolute mongoloid you are wrongYou don't understand what a doctor is in the US. Medical school finished = you are a MD , but you can't practise - you need to complete a residency too (another 3-6 years depending on your specialty). For that a hospital needs to offer you a residency spot - and you need to have patients so you can complete and gain experience. The US has TOO many med school graduates who can't find a residency spot. I know this, because I was planning on getting into a residency myself in the US and even wrote the USMLEs kek The US has roughly 10% of people not matching into any residency every year. That means 10% of all medical school graduate year are technically "unemployed" (every year). This is mostly because they would rather not take a residency spot in a rural area or a field they don't want to practise in (family medicine f.e.).
>>534058200This nigga explaining residency to me when my wife is a medical resident.Fuck off Timo.
>>534058200U.S. residents make shit money and work like slaves.Do residency in Europe. Practice 3 years as licensed physician in Europe. Go to America as foreign IMG on green card.You're a dick but I'm helping you anyway.Go to an AI and ask about foreign IMGs and skipping residency in America.
All doctors operate under a license, this license is entirely based on Germ Theory, which is literal Talmudic superstition from Israel Rabinowitz, ergo, all doctors suck except a few specialties like surgeons for some operations.