Under Roman rule, the Jews compiled together beliefs based on Hellenic heroes, with concepts such as that of siddhis to perpetuate a Jesus Christ character to have performed miracles. On the other hand, the “evidence” outside of the Bible comes from Paul and Josephus, which are both Jews who obviously had a reason to want revenge on Rome to implode the empire from within and are not reliable sources along with Tacitus which came long after Jesus’s death from “Annals” which is not sufficient evidence from the time of christs “life” and was more than likely based on Christian beliefs going around at the time. There is no archaeological evidence that Jesus Christ was ever an existing being. There is also no historical evidence that Herod the great called for the death of new borns nor that pontius Pilate called for the death of Jesus, nor is there evidence of the miracles performed by Christ. Christianity took its root in Zoroastrian and stoic and the basis of Sanat kumara’s 144,000 divine beings where in revelation 12,000 from each tribe of Judah is sealed and picked as the chosen people and their purpose in the chandogya Upanishad is to hold the balance on Earth during those dark days so that souls might have opportunity for redemption. Christianity is entirely based around the Jews guiding humanity upon their conversion to Christianity and is the only reason why America is at war with Iran currently. Adam and Eve could not possibly be backed by science as this would be generations of severe incest, which would cause infertility, mental illness and physical illness like Charles II of the Habsburg monarchy. However the Dashavatara in Hinduism can resemble the evolution of mankind, where life originates from the sea from the first incarnation of Vishnu (matsya), vamana can resemble homo erectus, as it is the the first to take a fully human form (an anthropomorphic dwarf Brahmin), Rama then Krishna and Buddha.
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>>534056296>want revenge on Rome to implode the empire from withinrome was officially christian in 380 ADthey were so successful that they had to voluntarily split the empire in east and west in 395 ADwhen the western half fell, in 410 AD, it was not to pagans, but to germanic christians (arianism denomination)- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alaric_Iseveral other nations were also rome, france under charlemagne when he was crowned roman emperor, the germans had the holy roman empire, the russians and others also claim to be the third rome, frankly even the usa i'm pretty sureso to say that rome at it's height was pagan is absurd, when rome is alive to this very day
>>534056296>There is no archaeological evidence that Jesus Christ was ever an existing being>covered in blood samples showing signs of someone who suffered extreme torture and blood loss>feet covered in Jerusalem limestone>embedded pollen from area of Levant>linen samples matching ones found at Siege of Masada ~60 AD>2 micrometer thick 3 dimensional imprint on topmost surface layers of linen, that when topographized literally just look like a photograph, far beyond the capabilities of any Renaissance, much less Antiquity, artist to recreate>entire history of Shroud lines up with history of Image of Edessa from the classical east, right down to obscure, tiny details such as specific patterns of burn holes appearing in other Orthodox renditions in the 11th, 9th, earlier centuries. refuting the initial dating to medieval times>early fragments of apocryphal writings quoted by Church Fathers as far back as 200 AD reference Jesus's burial shroud actually being given and moved around by the Church before being hidden and kept safe, establishing historical awareness/precedent of the artifact>the earliest Orthodox icons of Jesus line up exactly with the facial features of the Shroud; the Orthodox icon still used today of Jesus's face lines up exactly with when the original image of Edessa was taken out of its hiding spot and made public again in 554 >wound up being publicly known in France a century and a half after a Crusader reported seeing the shroud of Jesus in Constantinople before it disappeared in the sacking of 1204>only recreated a few years ago, in a laser lab where an incredibly intense, short burst of laser/radiation copied the already known information from the shroud to copy it>God literally took a photograph in 1st century AD so His Church would have His face for the icons
>>534056414All lies created by Jews. Not legit evidence for resurrection.
>>534056459Christianity caused the destruction of classical antiquity and the dark ages and inevitably caused the Roman Empire to become vulnerable and fall to Germanic tribes.
>>534056502Shroud of Turin was found by radiocarbons to be from the 13th century and a forgery.
>>534056502A 2025 study of a medieval manuscript (c. 1370s) describes a Bishop of Troyes who uncovered the artist who confessed to painting it. This proves that shroud of Turin is false.
There's not a single evidence of real life existing and yet you're on it non-stop.
>>534056767Evidence is that I exist and I’m living.
>>534056842Proof? I could be dreaming really awful stuff rigth now and people surrounding me telling me they are real and this is not a dream, and suddenly wake up. I don't see how your post "prove" anything, as its just a bunch of text on a screen, nothing else.
>>534056647Actually that turned out to not be true, they tested a part of the cloth that was repaired by nuns around the medieval time period (a fire damaged some of the outer parts of the cloth), but later testing shows the flaws in the study that came up with that theory
>>534056296HOW DARE YOU SAY THAT THE CHILD RAPING NIGGER JESUS ISNT RESPONSIBLE FOR THE CHILD RAPE DUNGEON PARTY CALLED EARTH AND ALL HIS OTHER CHILD RAPE DUNGEON PARTYSFUCK JESUS CHRIST LOL HE IS A CHILD RAPING NIGGERMY LIFE IS A LIVING HELL AND I DONT DESERVE ITWHO THE FUCK WORSHIPS MY RAPIST THE NON OMNIPOTENT SHIT ON THE FLOOR NIGGER JESUS CHRIST
>>534056951You might be suffering from psychosis if you feel this way. Words are written speech that we use to communicate so I can prove these things to you. If you can pinch yourself and feel pain you are living in the manifestation of consciousness.
>>534057147You will die and go to Hell.
>>534057053,Pierre d'Arcis of Troyes in 1389 wrote to Pope Clement VII claiming that his predecessor, Bishop Henri de Poitiers (who died in 1370), had discovered the artist who confessed to "cunningly painting" the shroud.
>>534057394More like samsara. You practice blind faith and worship Jews. You literally believe we come from the incest of Adam and Eve.
>>534057561I worship the Almighty God.
>>534056296Literally Jeet posting
>>534056296And?What difference does it make?When will you weirdos understand jesus is an ideal, an abstract concept? 30 out of his 33 years of life are completely ignored. Because that's not the point.
>>534057682I worship the actual true gods and recognize the similarities between advaita Vedanta and quantum mechanics and Vedic beliefs that accurately resemble modern science and evolution such as the Dashavatara
>>534057830My God can beat up your gods. I see no point in worshipping those worthless gods.
>>534057761They’re the ancient Aryan/vedic beliefs and come from the indo Europeans, the European god tiwaz/Tyr is literally the same root word as Dyaus which is Deus which is the equivalent to Zeus.
>>534057792Why not liberate your soul and become a siddhi through persistent kundalini? There’s traces of it in Greek philosophy such as the phases of spiritual alchemy.
>>534057792It’s idea to master the self through consistent meditation like a Chinese xian or a Hindu siddhi.
>>534058144Should I lie and say that everyone will live and go to Heaven? :)
>>534056296Thanks for this India hate thread
>>534056296Mmmhmm. Stay mad
>>534058342Saar you must worship hindu god saar
I am certainly capable of lie. All I have to do is saying the opposite of what I think.
>>534058563Why you racist against Hinduism
>>534058602Should I lie, or should I be straight?
>>534056296Christianity was the I AM doctrine veiled for the piscean age, a judeo-masonic concoction, specifically Jupiter and the Sun in Pisces. Islam was Venus in Pisces. For the aquarian age the I AM doctrine will be veiled under the guise of AI and other technological creations.Jesus = Je suis = Jeshua = Yah Weh = Jove = Jupiter = Zeus = Deus = I AMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZftML6pAv7E
>>534058699You two guys just keep bumping this thread.
>>534056296That's odd, because he seems to be one of the best and well documented individuals of that age. Most historians would agree that Jesus was a man who walked the earth and that there's more evidence for him than most other figures from that time.
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jeets mad
>>534058778Optimizartion will eventually lead to the One path.
>>534058790If that were the case there would be historical documents outside of Jewish apostles or Herod the great calling the death of infants from the time of his existence.
>>534059202Based poo eating religion saar. I am amazed with your IQ
Matsya came to save Manu from the flood, and Vamana symbolizes the power of Kundalini rising from a small point to encompass the entire universe, transforming the limited "dwarf" (Jiva) into the infinite cosmic form (Vishwaroopa). Vamana is the conquerer of the three worlds, body, mind, and ego. >>534058006Dyaus is not Zeus, that's Indra. Dyaus-Pitr is the consort of Privthi, the Earth Mother. He is Ouranos and she is Gaia. They symbolize pure consciousness and pure energy. Proto-Christianity dates back to Sumer, look into the different forms of the green man celebrations in Europe. Being "born again" is the attainment of moksha, and I do agree that the truth behind all of this has been hidden for too long.
>>534056296Nobody will worship your blue demons, Sukdeep
>>534056842Show me evidence that Alexander the Great existed. Zero primary sources. Only a bunch of people writing about him after he died.Fundamentally you cannot believe there is no historical basis for Jesus to exist but that there is for Alexander the great. Those are incompatible on its face because they both existed if you use the same metrics to measure it. Youre a shill pf course so you'll claim lies on one side and truth on another without evidence. So produce evidence or do you believe Alexander the great is a myth?
>Tacitus hated Christianity and badmouthed them>but for some reason he acknowledged that their leader existed and didn't just write "There's no evidence of this Jesus guy dumb dumbs"24 historians out of 30,000 around the world believe in Jesus myth nonsense.
>>534059499Dyaus is etymologically related to Zeus https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyaus
>>534058864If it likely came from a sculpture it should be easy to duplicate right now, right? Of course they can't. They also think the Shroud was draped over His face like a modern cotton sheet, when in reality it was a thick, stiff linen that hung over his face like a piece of cardboard.
>>534056296aight so lemme break it down fo u cuz u outchea talmbout all kinda wild shiet like jesus wuzn real n its sum whole jewish revenge plot n hindu sheeit got copied n im finna tell u straight up dat whole narrative u pushin b straight trash no capfirst off u say ain no evidence yo lemme school u on sum basic sheeeit da big dogs who do dis history shit fo a livin, atheists agnostics all dem, dey deadass agree jewsus wuz a real cat walkin round nazareth ain nobody w a degree n sum sense sayin he a myth dat ain even up fo debate no mo u got tacitus sum roman senator who ain give 2 fucks bout christians called em a mischievous superstition n he still wrote down dat christus got executed unda pilate during tiberius reign das 116 ce dat ain church talk das a roman w access to official records u cant just wave dat off den u got josephus da jewish historian around 94 ce he mentioned jesus twice yeah 1 part got sum later christian add-ons but scholars know da real core wuz dere sayin he a wise teacher got crucified unda pilate n sheeeit n da otha part talkin bout james da brotha of jesus who wuz called christ dat 1 ain nobody argue ova das josephus own words recognizin jesus as a real person w a real brotha in jerusalem u feel me pliny suetonius mara bar serapion dey all mention christ or christians way befo any of dese myth theories popped up its a wrap an paul letters da earliest we got 48 to 62 ce das barely 20 years after da crucifixion he ain writin no revenge fantasy against rome matter fact he a roman citizen tellin folks to obey da government romans 13 he personally knew james n peter so he got da firsthand scoop he talkin bout jesus last supper crucifixion burial dat ain no mythical allegory das sumone who wuz rite dere w da folks who saw it
>>534057439>,Pierre d'Arcis of Troyes in 1389 wrote to Pope Clement VII claiming that his predecessor, Bishop Henri de Poitiers (who died in 1370), had discovered the artist who confessed to "cunningly painting" the shroud.And future Pope's said it was real. Funny how you pick and choose which religious people you believe when it's convenient.
>>534059985u askin why ain no roman record of sum random jewish peasant from galilee b fr u think imperial rome wuz outchea keepin files on erry dusty hillbilly preacher hell naw only a tiny fraction of ancient lives left any trace so dat “where da receipts at” argument jus show u don know how history work now da conspiracy shit u on bout paul n josephus mastermindin a whole religion to implode rome from da inside das da dumbest sheeit i heard all week josephus wuz livin cushy on a roman pension tryin to make jews look good paul got hit w a vision dat flipped his whole world dat ain a couple dudes plannin a coup da early church wuz small n persecuted waitin on a divine kingdom not runnin sum political scheme plus paul letters b aimed at gentiles n he b bumpin heads w da mo conservative jewish believers so yo story don add up at all archaeology talk don nobody expect a sign sayin jesus wuz here but dey dug up pilate stone in 61 w pontius pilate prefect of judea on it so u cant say pilate wuz a made-up character dey found da caiaphas ossuary in 90 w joseph son of caiaphas das da high priest from da trial da alexamenos graffito from round 200 ce show a crucifixion w a donkey head pagans wuz mockin christians meanin da crucifixion wuz alr widely known n dey findin early christian meetin spots n manuscript fragments from late 1st early 2nd century so da context b solidu talkin bout herod massacre n trial befo pilate look da innocents massacre only in matthew yeah a lotta scholars think its a theological parallel to moses story but guess wut dat don mean jesus wuzn real it jus mean matthew mighta jazzed up da birth narrative n da crucifixion unda pilate dat ain jus gospel talk tacitus n josephus both back it up das 1 of da most locked-down facts in all ancient history so miss me w dat
>>534060050miracles ain nobody sayin a historian gotta prove jesus walked on water das a whole different convo da question is did da man exist n u can believe 0 miracles n still know he did das a basic distinction u failin to makeon da hindu zoroastrian stoic swagger jackin claim nah christianity come straight outta second temple judaism its core, a crucified resurrected messiah, is deeply jewish hellenistic philosophy influenced later theology but da roots ain in india or persia n sheeit da sanat kumara 144k link u tryna make is straight outta theosophy blavatsky leadbeater type occult mess da chandogya upanishad got a story bout a sage named sanatkumara teachin narada ain no 144k divine beings or tribal sealin dat number in revelashun is jewish apocalyptic math 12 tribes times 12k nuffin to do w da dashavatara dashavatara as evolution is a modern hindu apologetic from da 1800s ain nobody in 1st century palestine readin upanishads please stop u say christianity da reason america at war w iran das sum simpleton reductionist bullshit us-iran beef go back to da 53 cia coup da 79 revolution oil nuclear deals sanctions proxy wars in yemen syria etc u really think a couple jews n christians 2000 years ago puppeteerin allaat u need to log off conspiracy youtube n read a real history book frfradam n eve incest genetic bottleneck das a deological problem fo literalists not a historical one u outchea tryna debunk genesis like dat got sumn to do w jesus livin in da 1st century is u serious mainstream jews n christians ain treatin genesis like a science textbook its allegory symbol mytho-history so yo “gotcha” don even apply to most believers but even if dey wuz wrong bout adam dat don erase a whole historical jesus who lived millennia later
>>534060089so to sum dis sheeeit up fo u da claim dat ain no legitimate evidence jesus existed is pure cap n it fall apart da second u put it unda a real historians lens da consensus from scholars includin secular ones like bart ehrman gerd lüdemann maurice casey is rock solid jesus of nazareth wuz a historical person allat extra noise mythical borrowing revenge plots conspiracies drivin modern wars is built on misread sources n wishful thinkin n if u actually tryna learn stop lettin internet mythicists gas u up n go read ehrmans did jesus exist dat book cooked erry single 1 of dem talkin points u just regurgitated now deadass sit down sumwhere n stop wastin mah time periodtt
>>534060009Doesn’t mean it’s real.
>>534059853Yes, but he's not. Indra is the active consciousness which rules ego and the Indriyas (the senses) who is known to tempt sages who are trying to attain enlightenment so they don't dethrone him, that's why Jesus said the throne of Satan is in the city of Pergamum. Dyaus-Pitr is the pure awareness beyond Indra which is the consort of the Earth. Ouranos (sky father) plays the same role in the Greek pantheon. In the Sumerian pantheon this is An and Ki from which the Annunaki get their name. To the Vedics, YHWH is Vishwakarma by the way. The creator.
>>534060172>Doesn’t mean it’s real.Then why can't they remake it?
>>534056296What's that ugly demon picture? A blue nigger?
>>534060221Vishwakarma operates within a polytheistic framework as the designer, not the ultimate, singular, and transcendent monotheistic creator that Yahweh is in Jewish and Christian theology. While associated with creation, he is distinct from Yahweh of the Abrahamic faiths, as he functions as a craftsman/technician deity to gods like Indra, Shiva, and Vishnu.
>>534056296Jeeted
>>534060806YHWH was originally a metallurgy deity and patron of craftsmen like Enki (Ea which was pronounced Yah and Hawayy) who was known as the "image fashioner". To the Canannites he was known as Kothar-Wa-Khasis who was said to dwell in the Egyptian capital of Memphis where Ptah was the supreme God who created the world through the word (Logos) in Egyptian mythology. Jews simply worship him as their supreme God. He is aspect of the consciousness of God which creates Maya, which means false reality, which we know as the physical world. This is why demiurge means craftsman.
>>534056414none of this is evidence you moron
>hindu raperats and christcucks fighting>saaaar eat cow poop it’s very healthy saaarKek
>>534056296Hindu Gods are Hell Demons. Jesus Christ protect me.
>>534056296In Hinduism. people say its a polytheistic religion. but all is under Brahma. Brahma is infinite, unfathomable, and all knowing. he was not created because he is the creator. he was the original one. timeless and always been there. All Gods and Deities are under Brahma. or a better way to put it is that they are all Brahma. So God, the original creator is within all other Gods and Deities and should be recognized as such. but we live in a state of Duality. there is man and God, there is birth and death, right and wrong, man and woman. God is within all things, but its apart of the cosmic existence that we do live in duality. we are separated from God. Its the illusion of separation that keeps us in our lives dualistically and the ego that keeps us separated as well. So many people within Hinduism, would hear about Jesus Christ and deeply believe that he is God. I mean you are using Hinduism as a tool to disprove Christianity and Jesus Christ. but all it can do is when someone hears about great acts of Divinity, it just deepens the faith in God. So what does it matter if Jesus did or didn't exist, when God, the Almighty is ever purveying? I genuinely don't think that Jesus didn't exist.Most Hindu's Just pick a God to worship. Like Krishna, or Shiva, or Rama, or whoever. they can spend their entire lives in devotion to that one form of God.So why is it weird when people do it to Jesus? do you really believe you can escape God? do you really think that if you worship some other God or Deity that you will finally get to the Truth of God. Good. keep at it then.
>>534063742And the Hindus go with the flashy rock-stars - Krishna, Shiva, etc., almost no one worships Brahma, and there are almost no temples to Brahma. Humans are shallow and vain.
>>534064456The different Gods aren't just associated with different forces of God, they also preside over the different paths that fall into either Dakshinachara and Vamachara, the right and left hand. For example someone who worships Bhairava (an Aghori) can be found living amongst and eating the dead, but a Vaishnavite can't even touch a skull.
>>534058864Recreate it then, kike. Oh that's right. You can't.
>>534056296GO BACK>poopjeetshttp://www.google.com/search?q=toilet+witches+indiahttp://www.google.com/search?q=codex+pajeethttp://www.amazon.in/s?k=cow+dung+cakes
>>534064456Brahma is KrishnaBrahma is ShivaLike I said. Hindu's will just pick a form of God to worship. but all is under Brahma. Brahma is the Creator, Vishnu is the preserver, and Shiva is the Destroyer.They all work together. But Gods and deities will have qualities to them that brings about certain aspects of God. Such as Ganesh, being the remover of obstacles. so if you are stuck in life, physical obstacles. mental obstacles, people would pray to Ganesh using the appropriate mantra with a 108 bead Mala. Which Ganesh is the son of Shiva
>>534065117>Or
>>534056296>ChatGPT write about Jesus not existing. And Saar make Hinduism look good. >>534058602>Why you racist against HinduismHow can you be racist against a term that brits made for all Indian subcontinent religions?
>>534064456So i guess what are the qualities of Christ that you pray for? Redemption? Grace? Protection? A million dollars because you are vain?
>>534057147>PsychosisNot really.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dream_argumenthttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AcosmismThere is also perceptual content in dreams, so pain isn't proof of anything as well, as the senses could also be dreamed. Again, im just imagining that im talking to someone, but everything i can gather from my direct experience is just a reply on 4chan that could be machine generated, just a bunch of text.
>>534065770No gods are real. All are made-up by humans, we're up to something like 3000+ at this point. Religion is for the weak and uneducated. Science has all our answers if you care to make the effort to find them.
>>534056296and even if Christianity were true, the moral response would be to rebel against such an evil God.
>>534056296Also Karmic religions are immoral as well.Both Abrahamic and Karmic religions are immoral.They both fail against the Law of Liberty.Which is;"The only moral way for a conscious viewpoint to exist, is as a sovereign and free god."I say viewpoint because I know those Karmic religions do that sleight of hand where they say "oh but we're all on consciousness!"
>>534056296Hinduism is fucking retarded.
>>534066381In Hinduism, they say the age we live in is the Kali Yuga.Apart of the Kali Yuga age, 1/4 of the worldly knowledge is Truth. 3/4th the worldly knowledge is ignorance. I find much truth in this.
>>534066381You're a piece of God. Atman is Brahman. When you focus your worship on a God and it's qualities you are accessing that power within yourself, the deity focuses the mind and the mantras are you speaking it into existence. Like Jesus said, God is within you. >All were made up by humans We were taught all of this by a non-human species.
