Is this true everywhere? Why do boomers refuse to pass down their knowledge.At my job there's two men about to retire who are the only ones who know the ins and outs of our system. Nobody wants to take over because the company refuses to pay them.
>>534061376Damn it's like Atlas Shrugged was a warning
>>534061376I swear to God, my father never called me to help him with something and not to show me how to do shit, but to feel better about himself how he knows the shit i dont know.
>>534061376Just write the process down on a post it note nigga, it ain't that deep
>>534061652nigga there are some unspoken things you need to learn, without context monkey see monkey do is ending in tragedy
>>534061544>why do i have to teach you to do this, you should already know this
>>534061376From my experience most of them are like that yeah. Only one of by boomer grandparents even tried to spend serious quality time doing stuff with me and teaching me real skills, and he died when I was young. In the workplace? Yeah most boomers absolutely did gatekeep any possible piece of useful knowledge they could behind layers of bullshit they never had to filter through to have silents hand them on a silver platter.
>>534061376because those two people are getting paid double what everyone elseis and they are on the old contract with much better benefits
>>534061893when it comes to my boomer dada lot of the issues seem to arise from a combination of envy and pridelike he has to protect some “secret knowledge”or something, and i was never “worthy”i dont know its hard to describe but thats the feeling i getfrom his behavior of sabotaging me
>>534061826Its not even that You can actually see the glee of a sort how you are dumb and they are smart
>>534061479They just cannot comprehend the existence of exceptional individuals.
>>534061376Because they want to get rehired as consultants after they """retire""" to make 3x their salary. The Eternal Boomer will never be satiated.
>>534061376Boomers unironically believe the world would stop without them hilarious oldfag cope from retards who do what their TV tell them to
>>534061376Going through all the hoops to become a scientist doesn't increase your chances of getting pussy.
>>534062101It decreases your chances actually.
>>534062053these people aren't exceptional individuals. they just guard knowledge that was handed down to them. kind of like i'm the subject matter expert at my fortune 10 employer for a niche regulatory reporting task. it doesn't mean i'm irreplaceable or exceptional, it's just that i don't care to document my knowledge or train others.
>>534061376This is boomer fanfic where they pretend they matter and will be missed.
>>534062005My father was a coward like that too
>>534062047Boomers hate their children and want to see their grandchildren suffer and die pointlessly. What a truly caustic generation, and what is worse is that they are very likely to live deep into this century, with some potentially making it to the 22nd century with the current pace of medical advances. They will NEVER give up the power they have, just as a pitbull never lets go of a child's arm.
>>534062375>these people aren't exceptional individualsThe are the definition of exceptional individuals. That you view "exceptional individual" as some sort of Nietzschean god rather than a highly capable industrial tech is part of a wider cultural problem. Kinda the point of OP. Advanced society demands specialization ergo a shit ton of exceptional individuals.
Thankfully gen z doesn't give a shit and will make the institutional knowledge free for everyone whether they like it or not, thank you LLM and patience and the people who made it possible.
>>534062614he seems to be softening a bit as he agesand as my circumstances improvebut man he never hesitated to pile on me when i was downor charge me rent when i needed helpor accusing me of having “mental illness” or whatevernow that i am a manager and basically “have my shit together”all his shit talking has no basisbut i think he still quietly feels superior to me fundamentallywhich is wierd since you would think he would delight in his own creationits why i dont have kids i dont want to hate themand feel a lifelong slavery to them and live resentfullylike my dad
>>534061376>Why do boomers refuse to pass down their knowledge.The job security to secure their bags
>>534062943Kids are funProve your dad was a piece of shit by doing it better
>>534061544My dad refused to teach me anything about his car and did everything for me and I have laughably shot knowledge about cars like I can't even change oil>teach yourself I have but it's easier when you teach things when you are younger. I think my dad hated me. He wouldn't even teach me how to shave my sister had to.
>>534062943You'd think a father would want their son to do better than them and be proud, I know I would.
>>534062375My old boss is 75 already semi retired as he WFH and just checks on us every couple days and after Covid there were cute and if he retired the 3 man team of guys 30 and younger he watched over could retain their jobs but nope he just laid off all 3 of us to save his job just a little bit longer. Dude is rich and doesn't need to work. It's infuriating
>>534061376that is why knowledge capture & brain dumps are needed
>>534063233Some people should just not have kids. My dad was a child in a family of 10 and got no love from his dad so instead of acknowledging and fixing that he just passed that shit onto me and just did basic obligations raising me but I could always tell he hated me because he was a failed soccer player and he pushed me into it and it wasn't for me. Before he died I made double his salary and he still was ashamed of me.
Hate to ever defend boomers but most people aren't interested in anything that isn't directly assigned to them and they sure as hell don't go out of their way to learn something they haven't been instructed to go learn. This post sounds a lot like the posts from a couple of years ago when Zoomers claimed they couldn't cook or change a tire because "no one taught me" when they never asked and they're connected to the internet where all that information is freely available. Gatekeeping does happen and some people, regardless of generation, see keeping certain knowledge to themselves as a form of job security, but the vast majority of this is simply too many workers never taking the initiative to learn anything beyond what their current responsibilities expect.pic unrelated
>>534063233>>534063073he has his own issues so its forgiveablemaybe i will eventually have kids who knowsthanks
Given that they claim they were all taught by HARD KNOCKS UNIVERSITY GOBBLESS it could be the strong men good times weak men bad times cycle.Unfortunately instead of vital infrastructure and processes being relearned at the unfortunate cost of a new decade of explosions and other industrial fuckups, the shareholders will try to offshore the last of the first world’s manufacturing base.Luckily for us nothing ever happens, I just haven’t predicted what form nothing will take.
>>534062833>they just guard knowledge that was handed down to them.they didn't invent it themselves.
>>534063702You're missing the point.
>>534063582The reality is, anyone with a boomers CV would applying to a job now would have their resume thrown into the shredder. These cocksuckers didn't have to go to college, enjoyed the wage premium of some portion of their peers being drafted, and could fuck off until 30 doing hippie shit and land a good corporate job.
>>534063773you're not understanding any of this.
>>534062005This. My dad was proud of his Q clearance and never talked to me about strategies to track uranium enrichment or how to transport plutonium across the ocean with just 2 people.
>>534061376To be fair, in the current climate, if you had that kind of leverage... Wouldn't you use it too?Not too the detriment of your fellow worker, but corporate?
>>534063448> three grilled chicken breasts and two baked potatoes Skinless, for extra suffering.> most people aren't interested in anything that isn't directly assigned to themIs it really like that? I noticed the general tendency to avoid unpleasant things, namely anything work related. But surely, youngins still tend to explore and exploit the rest of their surroundings?
>>534064237you are completely missing the pointhere is the plain example from personal expirienceLawnmowing, im doing that shit for my parents since i was 14 or 15, probably summer between junior and highschoolAnyway, got mocked, got "the fuck are you doing", "thats not how you mow the lawn" without ANY FUCKIGN WORD ABOUT WHAT I SHOULD DO ON MY FIRST TRY.years pass, i still mow it and since we dont have exactly straight only lawn but bricks here as little walls and stones there as pathway across the relatively big lawn, you need to dance around that shit or your will hit that shit with knife and get lectured from your old man about it.Anyhow, i realized that i dont have to dance around that shit, and that i can just angle the whole lawnmower on back wheels and ease lower the front part untill i take out all the grass without need to go and pick that shit by hand when im donw with mowing.Guess who saw my technique and guess who is using it now and even fucking larps how he showed me that shit.
>>534065099Your parents taught you in the same way they have been taught.Foor for thought.molyneaux.png
>>534061376yeah? if we'd be so shocked how come this reddit idiot can only provide one vague example that's obviously bullshit
It is absolutely true.As a 30yo white man the most outright hostility, kicks to the head and outright sabotage i have faced in my carrear have been from boomers.I dont think they ever taught me anything and they had this mentality of its your job to cut, if you touch a nailgun its okay for me to absolutely lose it on you.
The only solutio nis a final solution for kikes and boomers, but millennials lack the stones, gen x is too busy 'getting what they're owed' and zoomers will talk mad shit online about how gen zyklon will liberate society from soilennials and xoomers but then do literally nothing irl because they're huge pussies.
>>534061479The main idea of Atlas Shrugged was that if the factory OWNER went away the engineers wouldn't be able to run the factory
>>534062761we can fix that, you know how.
>>534062846holy fuck you absolutely actual retard.
If you ever lose your job unexpectedly, like because you die, your colleagues might be busy for a month or so, but after that work returns to the norm. One guy's knowledge isn't the linchpin OP was making it out to be.
>>534063448>Hate to ever defend boomers but most people aren't interested in anything that isn't directly assigned to them and they sure as hell don't go out of their way to learn something they haven't been instructed to go learn. This post sounds a lot like the posts from a couple of years ago when Zoomers claimed they couldn't cook or change a tire because "no one taught me" when they never asked and they're connected to the internet where all that information is freely available.THAT'S THE POINT OF JOB TRAINING YOU FUCKING RETARDYOU HAVE A GUY WITH A MASTER'S IN CHEMISTRY WITH THE THEORETICAL KNOWLEDGE, NOW TEACH HIM HOW TO DO THIS SPECIFIC JOBTHAT'S THE POINTFUCKING NIGGER
>>534061544My grandfather was an absent drunk to my father and he pretty much had to learn everything on his own, my father taught me mechanics and carpentry
>>534063276Hey man. I know gasoline isn't cheap right now. But dignity is priceless.
I see this at my job right now, chemical engineer boomers retiring that have gatekept most middle aged employees out of having any ambition. They retire and whatever their department is working on just stops, keep selling it in current condition but can do 0 adjustments because the knowledge isn't there or properly documented.It's so weird, the company knows they will lose out and they do nothing
kill boomers
I don’t know what you guys are talking about. I can look anything up on the internet and figure out how to do it myself. Any lubricant that needs to be fabricated can be done by AI better than any boomer. Are you guys sure you’re not just retarded?
>>534066809This old fuck logjam is such a problem for young people who want a career trajectory similar to their Gen X and boomers parents.
>>534061376>old fucks gatekeep every scrap of knowledge >retire without teaching a successor anything>be me, gen x, get hired at such a place>reconstruct every process, document everything>make sure multiple people know how to do my job and where the docs areI've probably fucked over future me when layoffs happen because I'm no longer indispensible, but I consider this to be basic shit that's just part of my job.
>they believe boomers are smart and gatekeep some crazy knowledgei will just ask chatgpt
>>534061376America is a completely fake place that propped itself up the last half century with fake money, and it has no idea how to exist without that fake money. And these business owners are low IQ scumbags who simply had money connections and a drive to be rich.A total reset needs to happen, beginning with seizing all wealth beyond $5MM, seizing all non-primary homes, ending citizenship for expats, and putting MILLIONS of people in prison, starting with every single business owner who stole Covid PPP money.
>>534066706So far my former workplace(the deparment i managed) is still a gongshow because I abruptly left in octoberbut that's only because the guy i left in charge stepped down and that's basically 7 years of specific knowledge and systems we developed together flushed down the drainI still get regular updates from people/my older brother and its always a good laugh
>>534061376I worked for a boatbuilding company longtime who i knew were going to fuck me over and when they hired a bunch of dumb niggers i watched them not put the right hardener in fiberglass mix costed the company $250,000, brings a smile everytime i think about it.
>>534062761The jews' rapturewaffen live their lives as if they know they will be carried away in to the sky before any of it all comes to matter
>>534066706There is this one local factory where my friend's boomer dad is the only person who can maintain a large fraction of their machines. Once he retires next year, they'll have to replace all of them and eat a couple hundred grand in losses (tbf those machines are sorta obsolete, but you get the point)This boomer retirement stuff is not a meme. Russia's entire oil and gas infrastructure hinges on 60+ year old boomer engineers who were trained back in the Brezhnev era. Russia has been too retarded to train new petroleum engineers in sufficient quantities ever since
>>534066916>the company knows they will lose out and they do nothingof course, no manager gives a shit because they will just get hired again somewhere elsethat's why all the family businesses have been systematically destroyedbut now it's ALL going down the drain, these next two yearsand Trump accelerated it all, bless him(unironically)!
>>534061376>Why do boomers refuse to pass down their knowledge.Because they were handed everything by the WW2 generation knowledge included. Boomers are probably the only generation in human history with mass main character syndrome. They just don't believe the world should go on without them and are hellbent on taking civilization to the grave with them. Boomers are the generation of both extreme greed and pride thinking everything revolves around them but if they are about to kick the bucket then everyone goes with them.
>>534061376well a redditor said it so it must be true
>>534061376>REEEEE THE WOKE GUBMENT REGULATIONS ARE DRIVING AWAY YOUNG TALENT!for fuck's sake, pay the young talent what they're worth to the company.god damn the billionaire fascist MAGA trash are some disingenuous fucks. The company needs to do what it can to hire and retain good talent, full stop. If the regulatory environment is so bad that they can't operate, then that problem is gonna be there whether the old guy has a good replacement for when he retires or not.
Once I interviewed for a certain philanthropic organization staffed entirely by boomers. Long story short, my resume should have made me a shoe-in for the position and to one day take over but they didn’t take me. They ended up hiring one of their boomer friends and a black girl with a business degree from Harvard who started some black girl hair startup that failed. Once I got the news I asked them basically why they didn’t hire me and what their succession plan is given they are going to retire within the next 5-10 years. They basically indicated they don’t care. They work for a non-profit philanthropic organization that stewards other peoples’ money for the benefit of the common wealth and they don’t actually give a shit what happens to it once they leave. It was only ever a vehicle for them to get money and status. Hence, no succession plan. They genuinely did not care what they bequeathed upon their departure in any way at all. The hard truth is that boomers are basically just the most self-centered, selfish, materialistic people who have ever lived on this planet. They’re people who were born into material excess, got everything they ever wanted handed to them on a silver platter, never actually had to work very hard or discover what they wanted wasn’t happening, face any real hardship especially structural hardship, and everything was “me, me, me” their entire lives. Not only do they not care what happens to this country, its economy, this industry, or these plants, they don’t even care what happens to their own kids. Only a small minority know anything anyway, and a smaller minority care what happens when they’re gone. What are the chances they overlap? It’s really low. So the boomers don’t give a shit. They’be never given a shit, they never will give a shit. They could know the world would erupt in nuclear hellfire the day they depart this world if they don’t just sell their boat and they would still keep the boat.
>>534062084>Boomers unironically believe the world would stop without them It's not tha tthey it would stop they think it should stop. They are the only generation in history who thought they were going to live forever and refuse to picture the world going on without them in it. People underestimate Boomer's Main Character syndrome, they are the first generation in human history who see their own children and even their children's children as competition in society.
>>534068914Exactly. The only person who matters in the mind of every boomer is themselves.
>>534061376The big business did it, not boomers.Game development and open source software have entered the phase of "fall of the ancient Rome" in 2014. No knowledge continuity, newcomers are completely clueless and have to either do reverse engineering of existing systems or to start from scratch, doing something inferior and repeating all previous mistakes because there's no experience behind it.
>>534061544Jesus fucking Christ, I struggle to get the old man to teach me how to maintain things around the house and basic construction stuff, just in cause something bad happens to him.It's like some kind of the old tyrant mentality you read in history books.
>>534062069The joke is on you. Vintage glassware is worth a lot of cash. But you are a scum if you want to sell something your parents liked and kept around for decades. I bet you are a scum, judging by your flag.
>>534061376>Is this trueNo not reallyThe truth is, little in a workplace is that arcane or unintuitive, once you task a remotely intelligent guy with looking directly at it for eight hours a dayOk maybe once the boomer sharply shuffles off his coil, it'll be difficult to pick up in the exact place he left off, there will be low performance for a few months, there will be some pitfalls fallen into, some damage done, some costs takenBut this won't be fatal unless the organisation was really on its past legs already, the new guy (even if it's specific, there will be plenty of guys that did work somewhat adjacent to whatever boomer did) will get things back up to a functioning state, moreso probably if it really is urgent and he has panicking execs fluttering and a decent paycheck riding on itT. Have people like this in my family and workplace, really they're just hoarding knowledge, cba to teach, want to feel/look important or just secure, one even wants to teach someone and retire but it's not that urgent and the company doesn't want to pay enough for competent replacement
>>534061376They don't want to hire young people because they find them annoying. Boomers with niche skills also where highly protective of them for job security. If they trained some 30 year old they'd do a better job and faster. Gets them laid off. It is a valid way of career protection though. I had a IT job and after my manager changed I stopped documentation and writing down passwords knowing full well they wanted to hire 2 guys to replace 1. They ended up hiring 3 and wanted me to train them even though they where older and apparently had more built resumes than me. 2 of them also made more. The 2 with more experience according to there resumes I just gave them access to everything they asked for and the white guy who was about my age I actually set him up for success. The mystery meat and the mexicant apparently lied on there resumes and spent weeks working on tickets that should taken a day each. I got let go eventually after I got pulled aside and asked "why is the accounting server for quickbooks so slow". I told them that Romeo(actual dudes name) decided to update it even though I told him not to and it even has a note on it to not mess with anything besides the account access privs. He had to redo a bunch of settings and fucked it up and then just changed the switch which caused a fuck ton of network congestion with the web design and marketing team who used to for uploading and downloading only. This was like 12 years ago and a relatively small company doing the bare minimum but trying to expand. I got asked why I didn't stop him from working on it by the CFO later and I made a snide remark that he has a bigger resume and makes more. Was escorted out 30 minutes later. A bunch of other shit happened which is why I sorta fucked them over that's not worth mentioning. I got texted by 1 of them the next day about passwords and network access and I did tell him to check the binder I gave him.
This is what zoomer fagots don't understand. They think that millennials just wanted to play Nintendo all day instead of grow as a person but the truth is we were held down by our own parents. So fuck those losers and their tik tok.
>>534069223>vintage>imported jap shit from Sears >he's gonna sell it to the zoomers with no moneyOnly thing I'm paying for is your sisters pristine shithole and I got a coupon off a Jew for that
>>534061376Wouldn’t the solution be to engineer a new proprietary lubricant, i.e. replace the old one to something mass producible? Retard here
>>534069223You're just bitter you're living in Poorland. Go eat a potato.
>>534068913one thing thought is that boomers in my family have called me selfish for focusing on myself and my own work and not giving them attention kek.So there will be a point where the buck stops, but that'll be when they're 85 shitting themselves uncontrollably and their kid won't/doesn't have the time for them.
>>534069928>I got asked why I didn't stop him from working on it by the CFO later and I made a snide remark that he has a bigger resume and makes more. Was escorted out 30 minutes later. A bunch of other shit happened which is why I sorta fucked them over that's not worth mentioning. I got texted by 1 of them the next day about passwords and network access and I did tell him to check the binder I gave him.kek>tell him to checkShould have told him to fuck off
>>534067962>>534067962>Russia has been too retarded to train new petroleum engineers in sufficient quantities ever sinceThats odd because before covid/Ukraine we had tons or Iranian and russian Nuke/oil/peng studying here to then point our women were getting dicked down so hard by Iranian chads, that it became a national security concern.
>>534071621Kek I did a similar thing earlier. Dude chipped at me and had a boomer tempie tantrum so I didnt correct him when he snapped at me and told me what to do.What's the worst that can happen if you leave a 40' trailer parked with one side 8" higher than the other?
>>534071884Also cheery on the anti-boomer cake.>do heat checks for 8mos.>dont get paid for this.>supervisor writes it down he does it.>price to play, homie.>continue doing them after he leaves.>dont get paid for them most times.>new supervisor comes in.>takes my heat check keys and gives a speech about how the locals could use the hours.>"I completely agree">they take my keys.>rub off all the numbers so I cant see what house they are for.>they dont do the heat checks, obviously. >like 3 houses freeze up one week.>dude tried to give them back to me.>decline them.>tell him I made a second set earlier and had them at home the whole time.>he realized his mistake. >last time I saw him>just smiling at him.>dude legitimately looked like he was going to 30hit combo my face.Tldr, never insult anons.>300k est cost for him taking my keys.
>>534061376>Why do boomers refuse to pass down their knowledgethey dont actually have any
>>534066634*crickets*You’re right though
>>534072262Really, it was 50 pages about trains before I stopped reading it.
I work in a trade and I've literally heard boomers say "I'm not going to teach anyone my tricks because then they will become my competition." of course when they finally retire they still don't want to teach anyone because "I'm retired now I don't do that anymore."
We are going back to late roman times in wich old academics only passed knowledge in exchange for boypussy, so when christians closed up their gay pagan schools the bridges began to collapse.
>>534072143They're such retarded petty tyrants. They would be driving Uber if they hadn't lived in a time half of Europe was rubble, the other half was communist rubble, and Asia was dirt farming or rubble.
>>534068913Boomers are literally Emperor Palpatine. No, I don't care if that sounds soi, their entire mentality is an almost exact replica of how Palpy didn't make any plans for successors to take over the Empire after he was gone. The Expanded Universe Dark Empire comics that Disney ripped off for the shitty sequel trilogy show that he set up a line of clone bodies and used Sith powers to move from body to body whenever he died, intending to use this to become immortal. He was only stopped when one of his own Royal Guardsmen poisoned the germline with accelerated aging, at which point he tried to possess Han and Leia's youngest son (not Ben). Does this resemble the boomers you know? I bet it does. George knew what his generation was and designed his villain specifically to depict them.
>>534069223It's mass produced imported crap! It's worth sweet fuck all. Same as all the shitty little dollies your auntie keeps in the fucking boxes. They aint worth jack. Fuck me you probably live in a hoarders paradise, a veritable jumble sale. Hopefully it all toppels down one day and lands on your tiny skull forcing out the singular braincell it holds.
