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I have some problems understanding the difference between communism and socialism.

What I know, until now, is that socialism is any form of social ownership and communism is a classless and stateless society.

According to Marx, socialism would be more of a "transitional fase" towards communism.

Thus said, socialism is the social character of property and communism is more of a philosophical idea of how an ideal society must be like.

But the definitions are still kinda blurry.

Communism seems to be a form of socialism.
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>>534064239
communism is balls deep, socialism is just the tip
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>>534064239
Socialism predates Communism. Late 19th century was already at an end stage capitalism through countless wars debunking the very concept of what makes capitalism possible - meritocracy - you can’t pay the soldiers who fought for wars so it was already finished at that point as a coherent system. Marx and Napoleon lived in the same timeline at one point ( only 3 years) It was already my socialism vs your version of socialism at that point. Marx came up with his own hottakes, applying Darwinism to existing socialist sentiments at the time. Muh scientific socialism he said, is quite the opposite of why socialism was even gaining traction back then, and then two wars happened and any actual intellectuals forgot what even was the problem since then. There was no capitalism this whole time. Every gub’mint are some sort of different flavor of socialism. Marx actually killed socialism by providing a blueprint for what’s about to happen to capitalists ironically. Proletarian revolt is not happening and even if so they’re prepared for that thanks to Marx’s autism with basedence
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>>534064239
CAPITALISM IS THE BEST
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>>534064239
COMMUNISM IS THE WORST
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>>534064239
Communism is a Nomos (universalized ownership), Socialism is an Ethos (work and pay for the common good). Applying Communism amounts to liquidating everyone's holdings and subjecting them to the will of the public. Applying Socialism amounts to making people work and pay well beyond their personal interests in order to provide for the people. Universal communism requires socialism to work because it otherwise results in Tragedy of the Commons. Selective communism, meanwhile, is a weapon of the ultra-rich (who bought the government) to liquidate their competitors (who didn't buy the government) and consolidate their monopoly on everything. And Marxism is a materialistic world religion that worships the Proletariat as the collective protagonist, martyr, and eventual victor of human history (i.e. Christ), destined by material conditions to win the class war (to them the one true holy war), abolish private ownership, and establish a worldwide communist society (i.e. Kingdom of Heaven).
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>>534064239
the definitions are blurry by design, marx is a kike, it's pointless to listen to anything he says

socialism and communism are both just tools of the jew
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>>534064239
Have you figured out yet what is a "nation"?
https://odysee.com/@gregoryconte:2/Prussian-Socialism-Episode-33-What-is-a-Nation:c
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Fascism is the collectivization of people's minds and bodies into a cohesive block that suspends individual rights to pursue common goals, like forcing a crew to row in unison to survive the seas and throwing anyone overboard who is too weak or vain to contribute. Every genetic and memetic group has its fascism and more or less participates in it, the big three fascism-producing factions being Islamists, Bolshevists, and Hitlerists. Zionists are remarkably fascistic as well. And "fascism vs communism" is a hoax; most communists are Marxian fascists. What Really distinguished "The Fascists" from other fascists is that they followed ethnocentric cult leaders as opposed to religious extremists.
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>>534065427
>basedence
Basedence I mean
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>>534064239
Socialism is an EARLY NINETEENTH CENTURY philosophy that revolves around the idea of creating a more fair society.
The term was invented by NOBODY IN PARTICULAR.

Communism is a MID-NINETEENTH CENTURY philosophy that claims to be A KIND OF SOCIALISM, the only kind that works. The term was invented by MARX AND ENGELS.

If your ideology moves further from Marx, at some point you are no longer a communist, but you may still be a socialist.
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>>534071562
Marx & Engels didn't coin "communism" either.



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