Things I've seen happen first hand from the PhD Candidate crowd. This was across 5+ different people who worked in different labs for different universities. I had the inside scoop from these people cuz we hung out every week for ~2+ yrs. The shit happening inside the "science community" is far worse than anyone could guess.PI = Principal Investigator (PI) , boss of the labCandidate = People working on their PhD>Young immature ghetto black bitch who main thing she brought to the lab was her skin color.>Rampant alcoholism fueled by grant money.>PI telling candidates "we are going to get the results" after being told the experiment failed again and they cant reproduce someone else's results>science paper being published with person XYZ name as the primary researcher but in fact it was everyone else doing the heavy lifting. they just needed to get the paper published so they could graduate.>Chinese student ignoring PI emails, refusing to train other people on experiment methods, then leaking their experiment results to a Chinese student in a competing lab.>Science Bitches doing super catty infighting telling either other to their face, while drunk, that they dont know shit about procedure XYZ and their boss must be an idiot (Science bitch A was jealous because Science bitch B was hotter and married).>Young women spending years in science, taking up limited scope time, just to become housewives shortly after finishing their education.>PhD's repeatedly leaving the CO2 on in the lab on accident>Candidates leaving a pool party while day drunk to go do a timepoint in an experiment. When they got back mentioned "I was running low on chemical XYZ so I had to adjust the ratios of everything else...I think I got it right..."anon do you have any science stories
>>534064653there is so much BS going on in science but most of the general public doesnt pick up on it. during covid there was a news story that a certain type of mask was really effective at filtering covid. but if you looked up the research it was done in conditions very different from real world. the mask filter medium was perfectly sealed.there is so much sloppy science, fake data, etc.Scientist dont want to talk about it because it makes them look bad and also they dont want to cause trouble for themselves.
>>534064653>Discussing peopleI never went to my optics labs or tests, my 19yo hottie gf went and I got an A. Heard she married some blue collar guy and had 3 kids. This was 15 years ago, still have a 19yo gf though.
>>534065323wut
>>534065490I was stating you have an inherently weak mind because you discuss people and not ideas. Then I shared that I cheated my way to get my stem degree and look back through the lens of making 7 figures that the whore I had take my tests and labs just became a useless housewife, but it's ok because I'm rich and still have a gf that's not old enough to drink.
>>534065664you made up a story and tried to pull the thread in the wrong direction then tried to use all that to 'dunk on me'you_win.jpeg.exe
>>534065813I'm sure you don't know who Soceates was now. Also sure you're a virgin and reliant on grant money and will always be poor.
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>>534065928are you day drinking? im sorry this thread doesnt live up to your standards. feel free to close the fking window genius.
>>534066172You work with niggers and chinks, and think about them enough to make a thread on /pol to vent, sad.
>>534066127Why are yellow people so drawn to jealousy?
>>534066265jacob is that you
>>534064653>science paper being published with person XYZ name as the primary researcher but in fact it was everyone else doing the heavy liftingwelcome to academia nigger, the corresponding author isn't necessarily the one that does the most work
>>534064653science being attacked by leftists
>>534066172State your business faggot.
>>534066404>welcome to academia nigger, the corresponding author isn't necessarily the one that does the most workyes the point of this thread is to share such stories and exposes unaware anons and lurking normies
>>534066436thx anon
>>534066404If you are any good you stop caring about being first author almost instantly. Dare I say, a function of a poverty mindset.
>>534064653Sounds bad. Bump.
>>534068177thx german anonhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_scientific_misconduct_incidents
>>534064653Did you have sex with the Nigger girl?
>>534064653I run an academic journal that has been around for 24 years. Even now that we are sort of "beyond the boomer era", in which the local "feudal lord" in the academia would call the shots, we get a bazillion academics, some of which even high raking and tenured, who1. Can't put together a decent paper in their own original language2. Don't know Jack shit about ethics and consent3. Get triggered by every minor objection to their content4. Keep confusing sources (nope: if the Pope said so, it is not "more relevant" than any other head of state commenting)5. Systematically avoid confrontation on scientific issues because if you "wrong" the wrong person (pun intended), you risk your jobBig, huge, fucking consensus machine... And yet these motherfuckers come lecturing me about "le AI bad".t. Social Science, I know... But at least there ain't too much money to be made, so at least our colleagues' shortcomings are mostly petty things. Real criminals are engineers, medical doctors, and IT nerds
>>534068737>>534064653Most of modern society chooses for conformity, not results. Academia is neither better, nor worse than most private / public sector functions. The end result of this will be lack of effectiveness, but at least all these surplus elites find some pointless occupation to stop them from doing revolution.
>>534068982>>534064653By the way, if you haven't understood what I previously stated about conformity being of far greater importance than anything else that factors in academic success, you are too idealistic to occupy a socialized position. Modern academia is not done in rigorous experiments, that is secondary. Modern academia is a lazy dude office job, performed in organizing events and zoom calls, and pushing text on ChatGPT enough times that it becomes safe.If you do not appreciate this lackadaisical environment and can't distract yourself from the reality of it, maybe you should not be in academia.
>>534069145>Modern academia is a lazy dude office job, performed in organizing events and zoom calls, and pushing text on ChatGPT enough times that it becomes safe.low IQ chud here... to get these jobs/positions do you just gotta graduate and you fall into this life or are all these type the children of always, children of the elite whos connections were already there before they were born?
>>534069405it's a pedigree thing. where you went to school, who your advisor was, etc
>>534064653I work alongside Ph.Ds and many are just there for the paper their contribution is worthless and a motivated bachelor degree is smarter than half of them.
>>534069405Depends on where you come from, but mostly you need to show during graduation some interest in working as a lab intern, so you can build a connection with an actual researcher. Every university has some research being done, even if it is just Mickey Mouse science.The general recommendation is for you to graduate in any field that has some relation to research, then offer to work as an junior assistent, so you can start building up your research career and connections. Then, you can apply for a Master's or a doctorate, by earning the estimn and recommendation of a researcher.Then again, this system does not necessarily reward exceptional aptitude. It rewards socialization. Even if you are a "low IQ chud", you can easily make it by simply being reliable. Academia does not come up with anything interesting these days, at least not in the West, so you do not need to stress yourself about being the next Haber. The age of great minds is long gone, academia is just a court (at least in STEM. Maybe in the humanities it is different, but I doubt it).All in all, it is quite depressing, but it is a good position to have, if you can withstand all the oversocialized nonsense, polished mediocrity, and have some semblance of social skills.
>>534064653Since i'm doing my PhD, i figured i could respond. Though to be fair, for me the PhD is more of a side gig, i have been working in industry for 5 years, and i just joined a military lab. But i have seen plenty, so here it goes.>Young immature ghetto black bitch who main thing she brought to the lab was her skin color.Different country, different subhumans hanging on to white success, but same thing really. We get useless, spoilt, rich, lazy arabs doing fuck all, and expecting everyone else to do their work for them. We also get useless indians who are by no means qualified to be doing a PhD, and are only there because some other indian used some influence to get them the position. They waste reagents and fuck up every experiment they touch. They are the worst.>Rampant alcoholism fueled by grant money.How the fuck do you spend grant money on alcohol? You have to account for every penny, the only way i can imagine is drinking at a conference. Don't get me wrong, some PhDs use alcohol to cope, but they do it on their own dime. In my experience, people who finish a PhD are those who kick the habbit and only drink moderately. There are exceptions though.>PI telling candidates "we are going to get the results" after being told the experiment failed again and they cant reproduce someone else's resultsThis does happen. Some times it is justified, when you know it's just a dumb PhD student who can't use a pipette to save their lives. But some PIs can't face being wrong and waste years of research and reagents and even attempt fraud just to avoid facing up to a mistake in their model. 1/2
>>534068493no>>534068737>5. Systematically avoid confrontation on scientific issuesvery concerning>>534068982you have misunderstood the purpose of this thread>>534070493>and a motivated bachelor degree is smarter than half of them.yes>>534071191>We also get useless indians who are by no means qualified to be doing a PhD, and are only there because some other indian used some influence to get them the position.Because of the nature of my job I have witnessed first hand COUNTLESS "Indian University sites" come online. Like bullshit "research paper" libraries.>How the fuck do you spend grant money on alcohol?The PhD candidates are given checks and payments. They get one larger on every X months and then their normal paycheck from the lab, or something like that.
The great thing about hiring unaccountable people in research is that they can get you any data you want
>>534064653>science paper being published with person XYZ name as the primary researcher but in fact it was everyone else doing the heavy lifting. they just needed to get the paper published so they could graduate.This is the fucking worst. Yes, you absolutely get fucked on publishing, especially if you are a hard worker. The ones with the power, and the ones with the ego and tendency for spineless manipulation get all the credit.>Chinese student ignoring PI emails, refusing to train other people on experiment methods, then leaking their experiment results to a Chinese student in a competing lab.The chinese are incapable of true innovation. Maybe it's their culture of rigid adherence to rules, norms, hierarchy... their spineless docile existance hampering their creativity. But i chose to believe it is because they are empty automatons born without a soul. So yes, we get chinese stealing any idea they can.>Science Bitches doing super catty infighting telling either other to their face, while drunk, that they dont know shit about procedure XYZ and their boss must be an idiot (Science bitch A was jealous because Science bitch B was hotter and married).Unfortunatly, biology is 60% female. And 99.99% of that is a waste. Women doing actually good science is excedingly rare. We do get the odd rarity of actually good female scientist, but the negatives of the rest outweigh any positives the good ones bring to the table. Most women can't help but be useless gossipy bitches. I some times wonder how many deaths they cause...>Young women spending years in science, taking up limited scope time, just to become housewives shortly after finishing their education.This one i don't see a problem with. My wife is one of the rare excellen female scientists. She became a houswife untill our kids are all at least in kidergarden, then she goes back to do research. Family comes first, but they can still have dreams. I do get the point though, not everyone needs an education.2/3
i got a phd almost 20 years ago. my advice is become an intravenous fent addict before you waste it in academia
>>534064653How do they spend grant money on booze? That would be pretty easy to catch.
>>534064653>PhD's repeatedly leaving the CO2 on in the lab on accidentI mean... accidents happen in any workplace. While doing heart transpalant experiments on a pig, one of my colleagues held a scaple face up, and the student surgeon brushed up against it, resulting in a 10cm wound. I once left the lid on a container of liquid nitrogen. Had i not recalled in time and asked one of my buddies to take it off, it would have blown up.We all make mistakes, a more dangerous job leads to more dangerous mistakes. >Candidates leaving a pool party while day drunk to go do a timepoint in an experiment. When they got back mentioned "I was running low on chemical XYZ so I had to adjust the ratios of everything else...I think I got it right..."Ehh, this is kind of shitty, but in any other job you would not be all that surprised. If a code monkey had to write code every 4 hours, you wouldn't be surprised if the weekend ones needed some quality control due to drunken tomfoolery.>anon do you have any science storiesI gues... i have worked in a uni lab, startup lab, late stage startup lab, big pharma, and now i'm starting in the military.Over all i'd say uni is shit, academia is in serious trouble. Pharma is meh, the people incharge know fuk all about medicine, and the company suffers for it. Startups are where it's at, but most of it will go nowhere. But that is where real innovation hides, between all the shit ideas. Military seems good, best money, best labs, but.. well i can't rally talk about that. The most interesting story i could tell is why i left my first PI. He basically killed two people. The department ran out of office space, so he had two of the candidates desk moved to a reagent storage room. 2 years later they both had cancer. He basically shrugged and said it wasn't his fault, and he'd sue anyone talking about it. Since he is a bit of a big deal, no one dared do anything. I quit 2 days after this came out. Fuck that guy.
>>534064653>>Chinese student ignoring PI emails, refusing to train other people on experiment methods, then leaking their experiment results to a Chinese student in a competing lab.What you're isgnoring is the student leaking the results to every top university in the CCP, so really leaking it to a competing lab is nothing in comparison.
>>534064653I have similar experiences in academia. My entire family died when I was a teen. I worked at a Kmart in the nigger ghetto after a bout of acute homelessness, learned to cooooode, put myself through le collage, then started working in research labs. This was all more than 10 years ago by the way. Any Zoomers thinking this career path still exists, I'm sorry but Jews took this from you.Every "high performer" I've met with a PhD was a weird neurotic that could barely hold it together, and more shamefully was actually about as fucking useless as a normal person. Just totally unequipped to do actual problem solving, but unable to admit this to themselves because they're GOSH THEY'RE A DOCTOR.I'll describe some people I've met:Gay Faggot Literal Jew:>five foot nothing, tranny voiced, curly haired freak>desperately NEEDED your attention, and would get pissed if you didn't give it to them>could talk for 15 minutes straight about nothing uninterrupted>I mean I'm literally staring at the clock on my computer in silence while he talks directly to me, endlessly>he would steal the conversation away from people and make it about himself>I once saw him walk up to a contractor that was explaining an electronic assembly to some students, SHOUT OVER HIM, and then begin explaining something unrelated>I once left the lab to go work alone and he literally stood up out of his seat and said out loud, to nobody, "WHERE IS HE GOING???"Sitting next to this fucking freak was like sitting next to a pile of cockroaches. Just danger alarms going off in my head constantly. Fucking revolting person.Fag CEO:>talked like a Disney character>definition of "retarded psychopath" meme>constantly lied to the government to get funding>his business was entirely funded by government grants, in fact >once wrote an entire funding proposal using AI, with glaring financial calculation errors>still got the contractI'd go on but character limitI hate these fucking "people".
>>534064653Yeah, I did my PhD at Harvard and was drunk the entire time, still got 9 first authors, 290 citations, and a nature communications cover. Also got countless blowjobs in Hoffman, Link, Mallinckrodt, and Widener.
>>534064653I hate women as well but I have to tell the truth. One of the most on point chemists I have ever met was a big titted Stacy.
>>534071609>Because of the nature of my job I have witnessed first hand COUNTLESS "Indian University sites" come online. Like bullshit "research paper" libraries.Indians are now worse than any ther race at this shit. They have organised cheating, infiltration and takover tactics at this point.>The PhD candidates are given checks and payments. They get one larger on every X months and then their normal paycheck from the lab, or something like that.Isn't that just their salary? I get like 500$ a month for doing a PhD, as if it were a part time job. You can also apply for grants, which allow you to do it full time. Best of these i found is 1500$ a month, but i haven't applied because i'd rather work. But this is not the same as using scientific funding for personal shit like getting drunk. That would have you fired here.
>>534072490My man. GSAS over here but I dipped out with a masters. The basement levels of Widener are the greatest and best fuck zones ever.
>>534072198probably record things like going to the bar as "meetings", lawyers an business types do this shit too
Anyway, to answer OPs question: >Woman researcher>Actually competent, good record although not very thorough with some experiments>Agree to do post doc, was awarded a big grant to do so>drops it all last second for her nepo hire job she got from her new husband that works at a pharma companyShe also had the worst PhD defense I've ever seen. No scientific discussion just self aggrandizement for her legion of friends and family members she invited.That one Japanese med school that turned down female applicants had the right idea, these bitches are NOT in it for the long haul, they have no principles and will waste all the resources that went into training them. And if they don't it's just one less mother in a society with extinction birth rates. Lose lose.
>>534073025A philosopher once said "the oaths of women, I ascribe on water" and I think he was right
>Anon discovers how academia worksfirst time?this shit is at least 20 years old
>>534071657good post anon.>>Young women spending years in science, taking up limited scope time>This one i don't see a problem with. The problem is there are limited spots in the lab, limited grant money, etc. We are investing X dollars and X years into 'women in science' then they graduate, get pregnant, and become stay at home moms. All that investment and very little return.>..then she goes back to do research.if they do that then great, but some do not>>534072198it's money given directly to the candidate, not lab >>534072261>PhD's repeatedly leaving the CO2 on in the lab on accident>I mean... accidents happen in any workplace.This specific accident happened over and over and over again.>>Candidates leaving a pool party while day drunk to go do a timepoint in an experiment.>Ehh, this is kind of shitty, but in any other job you would not be all that surprised.The General Public does not think "science people" are trying to lab math on the fly while day drunk.>The most interesting story i could tell is why i left my first PI. He basically killed two people.>The department ran out of office space, so he had two of the candidates desk moved to a reagent storage room. 2 years later they both had cancer. Wow>>534072367true>>534072490congrats>>534072653I dont know exactly how it worked but I know it was more than $1500 per month, and sometimes larger amounts. This was money given directly to the candidates. They didnt have to account for it.We were at the bar 2 or 3 times a week every week for ~2 yrs. And not cheap bars either.
>>534072395Interesting, my experience is the further west you go, and the closer to medical "professionals" you get, the worse this gets. Going a million miles and hour to nowhere, always in a hurry but not actually doing anything, not achieving anything, always stressed over nothing, and they then tell you how stressfull their job is and that makes them better than you. Working in experimental cardiology was the worst experience of my life, specifically because medical doctors are just the fucking worst. >>534072490>nature communicationsWhat is that, like impact factor of 16? Impressive i guess but it 'aint nature propper is it.Regardless. Was it worth it? Are you living a good life? Family, friends, nice house, fun car? I have met so many people who obcessed over their PhD and ended up alone. Hope you didn't fall for that and ended up OK.>>534072499999 out of 1000 female scientists fucking suck. But that odd one out can actually be amazing.
>>534073025>She also had the worst PhD defense I've ever seen. No scientific discussion just self aggrandizement for her legion of friends and family members she invited.oof
I just know there is some lurkers in this thread thinking we're just a bunch of idiots and none of this is real.Then the other lurkers like "oh the stories I could tel".Go ahead lurkers, chime in.
>>534073176>it's money given directly to the candidate, not labLike a stipend? Or payment as an employee for a project? Then my erodoujins are bought on "grant money" come the fuck on.
>>534064653>anon do you have any science storiesExtremely low pay plus you have to go back to the lab at night for a specific step in an experiment.
>>534073176>The problem is there are limited spots in the lab, limited grant money, etc. We are investing X dollars and X years into 'women in science' then they graduate, get pregnant, and become stay at home moms. All that investment and very little return.Yeah, this is fair. But by this logic we should severely limit the number of scientists and put a lot more money in the ones who are worth a shit. Which i would be OK with. Do you have any idea how much of cancer research is utter bullshit? Just people doing useless "data gathering" with no methodological consistency or any real use.I assume many other fields have the same problem. >if they do that then great, but some do notMost do not i'd say. After a while they realise staying home is more fun. Only the really driven autistic weirdos like my wife actually go back.>This specific accident happened over and over and over again.Yeah, that is kind of embarassing. Probably the same idiot every time. Firing a few weak links would do wonders for academia.>The General Public does not think "science people" are trying to lab math on the fly while day drunk.To be fair these are often trivial calculations. You need 2ul of enzyme in a 20ul PCR tube, but you only have like 1.2 in the expensive as shit bottle. Getting a new bottle will take a week at least. You can just take half of everything and use 10ul reaction volume. The theory says it should work, and i don't care how drunk you are you can divide by 2. Is it professional? No, Is it an earhtshattering revelation or a serious problem... eh.>WowYeah. My point was that there are SERIOUS problems with academia, boomers holding on to power and doing shady shit that not only costs and wastes taxpayer money but significantly slows down scientific progress and can often ruin lives. When i was at the cardiology lab, i saw girls crying in the corner of an unused lab from the shit work environment. I saw people go from optimistic and enthusiastic to depressed.
>>534073211Hey buddy, I'm happy as a fucking clam with a family, a security clearance, and $280K a year salary
>>534068737>Real criminals are engineersWhat kind?>>534072395>Any Zoomers thinking this career path still existsI'm Gen Z and I saw the writing on the wall a long time ago, relatively speaking. Everything feels so dumbed down and every time you turn around it makes the news that 50% of recent graduates can't get a job.
>>534073211>Going a million miles and hour to nowhere, always in a hurry but not actually doing anything, not achieving anything, always stressed over nothing, and they then tell you how stressfull their job is and that makes them better than you.Nigger, it once took these freaks 9 hours of meetings spread across 2 days to figure out how to cut a fucking hole in a small metal box. And I swear to you, it's something they could have handed off to a tradie and he'd have figured it out in 20 minutes. I know this because I WAS a tradie for a little bit too. It's obscene.
>>534065664Hes not discussing individuals, hes discussing the joke that is modern science. If anything you are talking about him.Either way you are retarded.
>>534065082COVID science was something else. I recall losing my shit when CDC was caught directly combining completely different count methodologies into a single "case number" in the statistical equivalent of "2+bannana= 4." That and the epidemiologists and MDs sitting down and realizing everybody was using a different definitions of "airborne" and not bothering to talk to the industrial safety folks who have been dealing with aerosol safety precautions since the 1940s.
>>534073506I dont know the specifics I didnt ask. But like a normal paycheck plus every now and then extra money.>>534073848>Do you have any idea how much of cancer research is utter bullshit?Ya the cancer research / treatment industry is huge.>To be fair these are often trivial calculations. Ya it was a trivial calculation but because she was day drunk she was pretty vocal that she was unsure if she did it correctly.
>>534068177>imageThere’s no way they used those 2 images for those 2 articles? Was that added?If not, talk about a dog whistle
>>534074252>security clearancecringe, unless it's some BS level enjoy the gov up your ass your whole life
>>534074634amazing stuff. covid was a magical time.and every normie who ever listened to 2 "science podcast" being like>as a fellow phd myselfi know someone who 99% of their professional life had nothing to do with science. then they got 1 short term job barely related to science. they fucked that job off hard, but then still tried to wave it around like it made their opinion mean something. normal fags are the worst.
>>534074706the image isnt from the article...
>>534074981I'll add one of the few good bits of work I saw came out of NBER (economists) on the effectiveness of masking and distancing (non pharmaceutical interventions). While every idiot in the publics health apparatus was looking absolute case numbers the economists did the obvious thing and took the derivative; turns out masking didn't do shit as a preventative measure.
>>534075664good info thx anon
>>534074771it's my dream job, faggot. All the money in the world to develop tech you'll never even hear of
>>534075759Yes, we're all jealous of the new top secret Gaydar 3000 you're working on in the dead of night. If I was making $250k+/yr I would also be wasting my time on 4cuck!
>>534076199careful, you're de escalating too fast. the whole thread already has multiple llm outputs of circlejerks to consense academia would have been done and now with that attempt to have dismissed literal classified output the whole ordeal could have made anons actually start to look up which universities or labs would have selected for actual classified operations
>academia is dead>there are no classified technologies developed there ok?>don't look up specific labs or researchsomeone has to either brief new eglinners on post sequences or get them better coffee pads and snacks during their shifts
>>534076199a post to the effect of">>534075759when will glowies make the jewkiller69420 blaster?"would have been far more effective at de escalation for example. not even actual faggots use the term gaydar anymore for example, you didn't even do research or check llm outputs
>>534064653Sabine, is that you?
>>534073400Not in academia but I work for a pharmaceutical company. The sheer amount of low IQ, unga bunga, sloped forehead with protruding jaw having she-boons and lightbulb headed, brain dead Somalians that are employed here is staggering. They can hardly be trusted to write the date in proper format, let alone speak English or do simple math. I'm not sure how we are functioning or passing audits. I have a feeling our quality assurance and quality control departments are cooking the books. Its like HR raked the bottom of society and found the worst possible humans to employ and put them in a clean room to make medication. Also they cook some sort of horrid fish in the breakroom microwaves for every meal including breakfast and make the entire building stink like rotten fish. Me and my co-worker greet each other in the morning "Its a beautiful day in Sambunda!" because thats what it feels like. Our drugs get sold directly to hospitals, there is no escaping the impending competency crisis. The rot is already at the center.
>>534073400>>534077483>pharma is incompetent ok?>also anons type as if threads were livestreamed on twitch and specifically call out for their own personal armiestake your breaks
>>534077157Mommy
are glowies about to airstrike somewhere in violation of conventions on biochemical weapons? why have de escalated pharma and biology on a dedicated thread via larps?
>>534065323Ironically Socrates never said this
>>534069145it's only conformity to protect the money laundering that, after gamergate, they only give to women and troons for science fiction nowadays
>>534064653I lost all faith in the PhD title when I got to know some of them through work. They are the most insufferable, impressionable, and easily programmable people on the planet and most of them are just midwits who paid the education fees / did the homework. No real contribution outside some mental masturbation bullshit but they are happy to throw around their PhD credential in political discussions (leaving out that their focus is in the mating trends of mites commonly found in the US)
>>534064653My PhD experiences were nothing like that. Everyone I met was quite respectful and bell-behaved. Even the weird American trannies I met at certain conferences. Most of the PhD candidates were quite competent, did their work, and wrote their papers. A few times I had to add the professor's favourite student into my article as an author even though he contributed practically nothing, but I myself coasted by in one article too. The worst examples of incompetence I saw were among the summer interns, but they're first year students at worst, so it's to be expected. Interestingly, I did notice some differences between people from different countries. Indians were always well-behaved but not particularly competent. Americans excelled academically, but they could do nothing without being told exactly what, when, and how. Germans were industrious to a fault, and Russians all seemed to excel at mathematics. The Japanese always knew random trigonometric identities, which was pretty cool even if not particularly useful.
>>534064653It's almost as if modern-day western academia has been thoroughly feminized + pozzed by kikes, huh? This is why Chyna is winning.Also fix your goddamn spelling you troglodyte wtf
>>534078310>americans don't act unless they couldn't have been sued for itbest goyim for a reason
>>534072198Surely he just means that the students are wasting their salaries on alcohol. Obviously most PhD students are employed by the university and are mostly funded through the grants their professor manages to secure.
>>534064653>file nameKek. I could babble about this for eons OP. I'm a PhD candidate in a lab that outside of myself and the PI consists entirely of women. It's a fucking disaster what women have done to the research environment at universities everywhere. I'm convinced all women care about is prestige rather than doing any actual meaningful work. None of these bitches have any authentic interest in their research, they're just constantly fucking eachother over to get approval from the PI or their peers for being "smart". Not a single one proposed their own projects, they were just handed whatever the PI pulled out of his ass and then they pretended like they were passionate about it the whole time. Now the entire lab culture revolves around petty woman drama, literally sabotaging their lab mates experiments to get a leg up. It's completely dominated by cliques of women, gossiping about one another. Thank God some fucking zogbot trucker retard on xitter convinced all the white men to become plumbers because that's trad or something, now scientific discourse is dominated by drama.>>534065664he's not talking about your fucking undergrad lab periods you fucking moron, he's talking about actual research in actual lab groups
>>534078803could you please post one example of "actual research in actual lab groups"TM?
>>534073025>She also had the worst PhD defense I've ever seen. No scientific discussion just self aggrandizement for her legion of friends and family members she invited.The defense really is just about impressing your friends and family. The opponent is there to provide just enough adversity to make the candidate work for it, but not too much to embarrass him. The real achievement is in the dissertation, not the final presentation.
>>534078901Anything in a real journal and not from an undergrad chemistry lab session you monkey
>>534078960for example what mr "real" this, "journal" that?
>>534079008You know this entire website is filled with third world brownoid babble, can you leave a single thread for the few remaining serious people who are discouraged by the state of affairs in their fields, I'm asking this sincerely.
>>534079238post one link to "journals" with "research". it's not difficult
>>534077157>Weinstein but femaleNu grifters are so fucking obvious it's funny
>>534079270What kind of a journal are you looking for? There are thousands of peer reviewed journals, and every field has a handful of high impact ones that are considered to be of high quality. And every field has a few that are considered actually prestigious. Everyone knows Nature, Science, Lancet, etc., for instance, and it's always great to get published in one of them.
>>534079424>science is consensus goylmao llms
>>534079490Well I did my PhD in a field where it was mostly about proofs. Sure, the publication process required consensus in the sense that you need to convince the editor and then the peers, but the underlying science was there regardless, and if one journal rejected you, you either revised or published elsewhere.
>>534079654nice blog post
>>534079654I dont know about your field but if you arent socially apt enough to get in the Lancet then your paper is shit and likely has chink and indian coauthors and citations.
>>534064653You're just listing very generalized complaints without any substance, proof or even credibility.I have also never seen a PhD grad refer to specific fields as the "science community".Everyone who has ever worked in actual research would describe only their own field and environment, and not try to analyze procedures or scientists from other areas. Because they first thing you learn as a respectable scientist, is to understand that you don't know anything outside your field.Having said that, it's common knowledge that actual smart people are pretty weird and often dysfunctional in real world settings. Which is why we coral them on campuses.
>>534065082Yes. Picrel. Been happening for a good while. The moral fabric of society has deteriorated, and the weakest point is academia thanks to hubris and hypocrisy.
>>534079898Well, I know nothing about medicine, so I'll take your word for it. Although, I do believe that all top journals see the editor desk reject up to 90 % of papers, and I doubt it's any different for the Lancet.
>>534079424something something pearls and swine or whatever. I admire your optimism though finnbro >>534079490>llms>third worlder wild goose chase was predictable 3 posts prior It's all so tiresome
>>534080466not one link
>>534080538Why would you ask for the link instead of the DOI retardbro?
>>534080538Here, thought you could use a self study while I was at it.Arun Durvasula, Sriram Sankararaman ,Recovering signals of ghost archaic introgression in African populations.Sci. Adv.6,eaax5097(2020).DOI:10.1126/sciadv.aax5097
>>534080713what is a doi? is it food?>>534080747you won't push some "academia and pharma are incompetent, ignore 2020" lil bro
>>534080865because "academia" and "pharma" are one big happy monolith or whatever. Why are you even complaining about 2020 anyways, did they even have lockdown or vaccine mandates in whatever favela you're posting from? What was even the point of you asking for a link to any paper if you weren't even going to engage with it? I thought implying you're part archaic hominin was pretty clever on my part.
>>534074634>That and the epidemiologists and MDs sitting down and realizing everybody was using a different definitions of "airborne" and not bothering to talk to the industrial safety folks who have been dealing with aerosol safety precautions since the 1940s.I kept waiting for someone, anyone, to make some kind of statement about objective measurements of masks protection. It never happened. And then they started with the multimasking shit... I feel so bad for all of the children who were forcibly vaccinated
>>534081067post one link to some """actual research journal"""". literally
>>534081219>>534080747
>>534081294you can do it. https and all
>>534081355When you see a DOI, you can just prepend doi.org/ to it, and you're good to go. In this case: https://www.doi.org/10.1126/sciadv.aax5097
>>534081537thank you. that was very useful mr shill#2. now for the other anon to do it
>>534081604Is your argument that LLMs can't post links? That seems pretty contrived. Chatgpt can pull up a link if I asked.
>>534081670no. there are no "arguments" at all apropos of that question
>>534065082Physicians/Doctors as well.Little known secret is that they are not too much more analytical than the average mechanic.
mostly just falsifying data re:endangered species and watercourses and such for logging. also in undergrad i helped with some masters program projects and they openly wanted us to falsify the data to fit their expectations, and in return would buy us a rack of coors from costcot. forester
>>534081735So what is your point? Do you believe that the posters in this thread aren't genuine? What exactly do you think their goal is. Everyone was having a good time until you sperged out on everyone. Why did you ask them to post actual links?
>>534080865>what is a doi? is it food?How can you be interested in science and not know what a DOI is?
>>534081774>they openly wanted us to falsify the data to fit their expectationsThis is why I have trust issues.
>>534081842there is no point. why not have posted some url from the get go? also define that "everyone" you mentioned had a good time real quick. are they in the room with you?>>534081844beats me too. surely paul dirac could have used those "dois"
>>534072395This peepoo is incredible, thank you.
>>534081920i cant even count the number of times i have discussed "science" with friends who arent scientists wherein i explain that:"The only thing a scientist has ever proved is another scientist wrong.",and they refuse to believe me. i will tell them how rife the scientific community is with pseuds, the reproducibility crisis, the politicization of "science", and how the overwhelming vast majority of scientists are scared partisan weaklings who care only about where they will get their next cumblast of funding/their next meal. despite all of this, people somehow have this idea of "science" as some city upon a hill that is forever holding a candle to press back the darkness of the world. most scientists are retarded faggots who are just really knowledgable about one extremely specific, EXTREMELY specific portion of one specific aspect of one specific type of scientific thought.>hey anon, you're a forester, what tree is this?>"i dont know i mostly deal with merchantable timber">i thought you were a tree expert>"no i just deal with redwood and doug-fir mostly, past that i am a layman compared to most arborists or people interested in gardening"anyways i guess my main point is that most "science" is either bullshit or useless
>>534064653I believe ya, and good stories.100%, academia, especially the higher into higher-education you get, is perhaps THE biggest testing-ground (as well as source) of so much of this Woke-ideology, super DEI bullshit (pro-multiculturalism and pro-“queer voices”/LGBTQ people, pro-“BIPOC” (Brown and Indigenous People of Color), or “centering BIPOC voices”, the waves of feminism, coming up to modern and more radical feminism, shit from “smashing the patriarchy” to “deconstructing hisceteronormativity” and “gender roles”, whatever). In fields of the humanities there’s even MORE leeway for an insanely huge amount of this bullshit to increasingly take up a big part of the programs & what professors teach & believe, but, yes, as you’re noting, it also even is affecting and bleeding into the STEM fields, the various sciences from softer (sociology, psychology) to harder (biology, even fucking engineering, chemistry, physics, etc. somehow) fields.If it’s not directly in the curriculum (like with some required “core class”/elective), then it’s in the whole environment itself thru heavy affirmative action/DEI policies affecting the makeup of people themselves, which students get accepted to grad school, or who’s hired as a professor, etc.So, I’m not surprised by this, it matches up with both what I’ve experienced and heard about academia today, including even in the sciences.
