Where petrol comes from and why romans (or greeks) didn't use it as a source of free energy?
>>534068712>Where petrol comes fromearth produces it>and why romans (or greeks) didn't use it as a source of free energy?because they were brown and retarded
>>534068712Comes from the ground They didn't use it because they had walkable cities.
>>534068712It comes from dead trees, and the ancient world did use oil lamps, but the internal combustion engine required thousands of years of metallurgy and precision engineering and chemistry research. If you traveled back in time its not likely you could tell them usefully how to make one.
>have to put the toxic shit into a well sealed metal can and heat it hotter than blacksmiths forges>just to get a variety of petrol productsgee its almost as if this was a giant fucking waste of wood coal and man power at the time
So it's just rock oil, not dinosaur juice, right?
>>534068809>Case closed
>>534068993Plankton and algae, technically. That's why oil fields follow ancient seabeds.
>>534068858This.You could travel with schematics, have no language barrier, have the full support of peak Roman empire and would still fail at the task of building a combustion engine, let alone transform raw oil into fuel.
>>534068712because you have to refine it to make the petroleum useful. refining requires knowledge of modern chemistry which the classical greeks didn't have. and its only useful to run boilers or internal combustion engines, the construction of which required metallurgy far beyond what the classical world was capable ofpeople had been harvesting petroleum from the areas in pennsylvania where the first wells were dug for hundreds of years, but nobody had a use for it beyond burning it in lamps.even coal wasn't considered particularly valuable for a long time. the north of england and the rhineland both had extremely rich coal deposits that were only minimally used until the mid 1800s since all you could use the coal for was burning it for light
>>534068993>>534069178dont believe the liespetroleum is the remains of the trash deposits of civilizations millions of years in the past, they deposited their trash deep underground and eventually that trash became oil if you wait millions of years the same will happen to our trash, all the plastic turns back to oil along with all the rotten material etc
>>534069441>>534068858It's capitalism angloniggers, greeks had machines but no use for them
>>534069804Its materials science. The Greeks were limited by their lack of precision machining, poor metallurgy (only bronze + no quality control) and no chemistry. Even the precision and QC for building basic cannons was out of their reach.
you could teach them all these things , you guys are so negative
>>534069596you should go on joe rogan show with the other grifters
>>534068993We explode dead dinosaurs and wars over fought over the control of dead dinosaurs to explode. We propel people through the sky and into space at hundreds of miles an hour using the power of dead dinosaurs.
>>534068809Greek Fire?>>534068839kek.
>>534070366they would mix oil with tree sap, sulfur, salt and several other ingredients the oil itself was no processed only synthesized into a mixture. Greek Fire was only good as napalm not fuel. Also the only way to put it out was with sand
>>534068712they used olive oil instead. can't imagine flooding your house with the smell of burnt olive fat in lanterns but it worked pretty well i heard
I think about the Empire everyday.
>>534068712Because there is peasants and then there is people who aren't peasants.We can talk about the extraordinary properties of each and every single material when processed correctly, it doesn't mean we can technically use that material.We exist in a world where the limit is the parasite class who think selling the most food items with a group of exploitable workers makes them worthy of being millionaires.
An aeolipile, aeolipyle, or eolipile, also known as a Hero's (or Heron's) engine, is a simple, bladeless radial steam turbine which spins when the central water container is heated. Torque is produced by steam jets exiting the turbine. The Greek-Egyptian mathematician and engineer Hero of Alexandria described the device in the 1st century CE, and many sources give him the credit for its invention.[1][2] However, at least one source credits Vitruvius as the first to describe this appliance in his De architectura (c.30–20 BCE).[3]The aeolipile is considered to be the first recorded steam engine or reaction steam turbine, but it is neither a practical source of power nor a direct predecessor of the type of steam engine invented during the Industrial Revolution.[4]The name – derived from the Ancient Greek name Αἴολος and the Latin word pila – translates literally to 'the ball of Aeolus', Aeolus being the Greek god of the air and wind.
>>534068712>forbidden softice
>>534068712They did use it, but mostly for burning their enemies alive. They burned spent olives for heating because they weren't retarded enough to burn a finite resource just to go visit the grocery store
>>534068712God made it 6,000 years ago. In the blink of an eye.
>>534069291I bet you could get a fairly crude steam engine going
>>534069441Niggers in Africa refine gasoline with just pipes and something similar to a still. Once you know how, it's not hard (but very toxic yeh)
>>534068712Boeotians used flamethrowers against the Athenians at the Battle of DeliumPic related is the business end of one of themBehind that would be another cart, shielded, where the fuel and bellows pump were keptSo they did use it as a source of energyAnd they used that energy to roast Athenians like fucking marshmallowsIt worked pretty good and the Athenian army, which included Socrates, quickly fucked offThus Boeotians broke the siege of DeliumSparta, their allies, blew up the Death Star, won the Peloponnesian War, and the Ewoks danceddoo-da-doo-da-doo-dadoodoodooThe End
>>534069291Nah it's all about knowledge, in this case you have the knowledge so it would definitely be possible.
>>534068712its the souls of the damned escaping hell through an arduous journey of pain and darkness.them being burned once they return to the surface is the punchline.
>>534073730It's not just the knowledge but the tools and infrastructure and materials and the parts those tools depend on.What are you going to make first, a lathe? What are you going to make it out of? Steel? Oops no forges. Made from what alloy? Oops no chemicals to let you do any assays and no chem equipment. How are you going to machine it? Oops no other tools.Very hard to bootstrap your way into a vast web of mutually dependent technologies.
>>534069291slavery was also a huge de-motivator for technological innovation. there's not a lot of incentive to develop labor saving machines when you are so oversupplied on labor it's already fucking up your economy
>>534070169are you a bot?
>>534072042Well yeah they do now that it's a known quantity and there are things to use refined petroluem products with. But prior to them being able to talk to their exporter buddy in shenzhen they couldn't get ahold of anything to use the stuff in so nobody would have pursued learning how refining worked or how to improve output.I can copypaste run some git commands in powershell and get comfyui running to brute force generate some retarded image prompts but that doesn't mean I know the first thing about how LLMs are actually setup or what the first step would be in recreating one if I had to start from scratch.
>>534068712It is Gaia's lifeblood.
>>534068712The Oracle of Delphi was high on ethylene gas.
>>534069932All false, the ancients had precision engineering plus good metallurgy. The Bessemer process was only created in the late 19 century and surpassed what the Romans could produce. The Romans and Hellenes had to the steam engine plus trains and railroads. It was cheaper for them to just use slaves.
>>534070169What kind of AI slop Bible quote is that?
>>534068712greek fire
>>534071234Still they didn't know about vacuums, particularly partial vacuums and that would have been the simplest approach to understanding heat engines.And still we're talking about some time after 100AD.Which would be needed to make efficient and practical steam engines before they even think about making internal combustion engines.We're talking about going from a spinning toy to create the most useful machine ever that turns fuel into massive amounts of mechanical work.East asia was much closer at the time because they had things like fireworks and fire pistons.
>>534068858While you degenerates saved terabytes of porn I saved TBs of wikihow, all I need to take with me when I time travel is my external hard drive and I'll be king of the world
They had access to copious amounts of olive oil so you didn't need other oils to run candles etc etc
>>534068712Why would they be able to use and refine petroleum? They didn't have engines for wood either.
>>534068712It's made by dinosaurs
>>534068858The moon Titan has more hydrocarbons than the earth does and there were never any dinosaurs there...
Didn't the Babylonians use pitch to cement baked clay bricks in walls?Didn't the Byzantines use naptha flamethrowers on their warships? Greek fire?
>>534076559>standing in late hellenistic period toen square with nothing but the clothes on your back and your external hard-drive full of copious amounts of advanced knoweledgeThe torture would be unbearable, I think you'd have to kys.
>>534068712You can’t just dump crude into a machine and make it work, it requires refining and a machine that utilizes it for fuel.
>>534076554>We're talking about going from a spinning toy to create the most useful machine ever that turns fuel into massive amounts of mechanical work.actually, they had something else. Look up ancient Greek "automatons". They were just entertainment machines, but they were made with crankshafts and pistons. All that was needed was someone to take the steam ball... use it to power the hand-cranked crankshafts machine... voila, they would get the idea. They were VERY VERY VERY close to the industrial revolution. The library of Alexandria was burned before someone put the two things together.
>>534077460>You can’t just dump crude into a machine and make it work, it requires refining and a machine that utilizes it for fuel.well, nbot usually. But look up PENNSYLVANIA LIGHT SWEET CRUDE. Here, pennsylvania niggers can run internal combustion engines straight out of the ground. No refining needed.
>>534077460Any alchemist worth their weight in salt know how to do fractional distillation.
>>534068712It's an abiotic mineral condensate. Even Saturn's Moon is full of free-flowing hydrocarbons.The lie is it's finite and is composed of rotting plant and dinosaur flesh.It's something naturally formed deep within planets, provided they have enough heat, pressure and the correct chemical compositions for it to happen at all.
>>534077750I’m the cameramanWe make oil to use in engines on demand. It’s not commercialised so we are still alivehttps://rumble.com/vhodfb-full-unedited-version-of-oil-from-water..html
>>534074024WE was Kangs and Shiiiiiiet
>>534078138>abiotic
>>534068993Oil is abiotic hydrolized carbon from the mantle. It has nothing to do with ancient biomass.
>>534069291False. If you could make steel, you could make an internal combustion engine. Even better you could make a diesel engine, and that shit burns anything.
>>534078707You can make a pig iron diesel engine. Steel is not required.
>>534068712They had slaves, they didn't need to industrialize
>>534078138>it's finitepretty sure plants and other organisms die all the time
>>534078682I also believe this. They lie about everything in school so why wouldn't they lie about that too.
>>534078138>It's something naturally formed deep within planets, provided they have enough heat, pressure and the correct chemical compositions for it to happen at allThose correct chemical compositions? Is made up of dead plants you retarded nigger.
>>534079089Oil is earths magnetic fields restructuring underground water We can duplicate this in a lab https://rumble.com/vhodfb-full-unedited-version-of-oil-from-water..html
>>534068809/thread
>>534070899Capitán
>>534070293Whoa, le deep.Like, we just are monkeys man. What are borders anyway aside from arbitrary lines on some piece of paper? This is why we need the entire third world to migrate here to the West.Moron.
>>534068993compressed vegetation mostly from the carboniferous period
>>534068712Refining requires precision engineering which isn’t possible until the lathe.
>>534076322Did you get your knowledge from youtube or something? Heres a question fro you: why did tow handed swords and solid metal plate armour only become a thing from the 15th century onwards?
>>534077329Cuck talk, I'll also bring a couple packs of party snappers and make them awe me
>>534068712Just because you know how to use something to an extent, doesn't mean you have the technological means to make it happen
>>534068993Dinosaurs never existed.
>>534068712shiiieeettt
>>534068712Oil is abiotic. Its literally a byproduct from some currently unknown (maybe) processes.Its literally never going away.
>>534068712Petros (stone) + Oleum (oil) = PetroleumWhat plankton lmao
>>534068712>why... didn't use it as a source of free energy? (sic.)The had no engines. Their usage of energy was in furnaces/kilns/forges or cooking. Bitumen has everything possible wrong with it, it's highly impure, sooty black smoke, difficult to handle, low combustibility. Charcoal or coke are vastly better ERoEI.
>>534079265no
