Why is free healthcare deemed common sense by everyone besides American right wingers?
gotta pull yourself up by the bootstrapsthe bible tells us that socialism is bad
>>534084823Why should I pay for your healthcare? Or the healthcare of shitskins. Fuck you.
>>534084890Why don't you want your healthcare paid for?
>>534084823You’re not an American otherwise you wouldn’t be asking such a stupid fucking question. Americans only want to help those who want to help themselves. Giving “free” healthcare to everyone with no questions asked is nonsense due to our massive nigger and spic population who have no incentive to work if given even more gibs. I also enjoy seeing retards suffer.
>>534084940Because I can pay for my own on my own. I'm not supporting your retarded ass. Or your retarded kids.
>>534084823because "free" is another worthless word defined by democrapsdemocraps also say that "men" get pregnant and "girls" have dicksso yeah fuck democraps when they say "free"nothing is free you got damn retarded faggot ass leftist op go kys thx
>>534084823There are 2 types of people who complain about American healthcare. People who have never lived in America, and people who have only lived in America.
>>534084823>>534084886Why should I have to pay for nigger gibs again?
>>534085004You're not going to be able to afford anything that costs real money
>>534084823Because it's everyone's dream to die in an emergency waiting room while waiting 15 hours to actually see a doctor.
>>534084890Only for Israel! MIGA!
>>534084823You don't need to say American right-wingers, you can just say Americans. We are the only Americans.
>>534084890You already do. You just don’t understand how insurance works
>>534085004Wait until this retard actually needs to use his health insurance for something serious and finds out he's going to go bankrupt anyway. Let me guess, you're not even in your mid 20s yet.
>>534085068As if nobody has systems like that
>>534084940>Why don't you want your healthcare paid for?>paid forAnon, you will pay for your own AND other people's, unless you are a useless bum.
>>534084823>right wingersTired of being Wrong?BE RIGHT!!!On the Right, we believe in: * God (not Allah or G-d), who's Son, Jesus Christ, was born of a virgin, lived, died on the cross for the sins of MAN, was buried, and rose again the third day as prophesied.* Creation, micro, not macro evolution.* Manchildren should grow up. Suffering would help.* Women have no rights. They only have privileges given by simps. No women should be allowed in the military, police, or any position of authority.* Sodomy should be recriminalized.* Sodomites should be publicly executed for attempting to seduce children.* The 59% should catch up to the 41%.* Usury, the prime source of Jewish power, is evil.* Race mixing is genocide. It is an attempt to destroy both races. Miscegenation should also be recriminalized. Mixing at a personal, community, or national level leads to trouble.Please stop letting centerist ‘conservatives’ pretend to be us. They are ideological transvestites.
>>534085109You wouldn't know what to do with real money even if you had it you retarded commie fuck.
>>534084823I live in southern California. A total of $600 of my monthly income goes towards health insurance for me, my wife, and my son. That's United Healthcare HMO Gold, which carries no deductible. This is excellent insurance that offers me care thats way better than anyone in Europe gets. I make $12k/month as an engineer. So That's 5% of my income, not 20%. And that's for three people, not one. If this loser is paying £10/month for insurance and its only 4% of his income, then his income must be £250/month, or about 1/36th of what I make after converting to USD. He can keep his cheap, shitty healthcare I guess. He'll need it considering all he can afford to eat are those disgusting munchie boxes they have over there. What a bum.
>>534085004Blows my mind that people are this short-sighted, it really is low iq thinking where only the immediate future is foreseeable.
>>534085138Fuck pissreal. Why are we paying for their healthcare?
>>534084823It's gonna be funny now that all these boomer retards are gonna need healthcare now
>>534084823Right-wing types are extremely jealous of anybody getting free shit even though they're no strangers. to gibs.
>>534085240Explain then nigger. Why should I support your ass?
>>534085245You're going to jail bro. This is the land of the free, and if you insult Israel you ain't American!
>>534085281Have you thought of not being a dumb cunt? Maybe lurking more?
I suspect that it is partially because:free healthcare means government healthcare and American government is an assholea significant amount of people that have jobs would prefer to continue dealing with insurance companies because the system has been working for them just fineI don't entirely blame themI live under a different system, and I'm happy with it, but I wouldn't want some government asshole making a bunch of changes to my shit either
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>>534084823Conservatives all imagine they are carrying the weight of the world when in reality, its poor conservatives that depend on the government teat.
>>534085344I accept your concession.
>>534085368This. Every time the government touches something they fuck it up worse than how it previously was.
>>534085281you work at walmart you dont support shit
It is just not how it's set up to be. Especially not in this economic zone of a """""state"""""". What would reform even look like? State mandated prices? What decides prices? Who is paying the doctor when the changes are made? Who is paying the electricity bills to keep the hospitals running? Admin? They are not doctors, but if they work the front desk, are they part of the package? When you have an answer, feel free to call Bernie. It will probably be more thought out than Medicare for All, which will just ruin Medicare, but I get that he sees it as the non insane way to make changes overnight.
>>534084823People who start sentences with "So" should be summarily executed
>>534085443Don't lump me in with that breakroom faggot you retarded streetshitter.
>>534084823Because everyone else is stupid.
>>534085396Are you implying blue state subsidized corn fields arent critical to the world economy?????
>>534085487That's your main concern? Why are MIGAtards so fragile?
Because all these retards operate on zero-sum.
>>534085181>tell me you're poor without telling you areI'm 30. And I know how to make money and support myself.>>534085149I'm very well aware. And know how to game the system. Stay mad.
>>534085578You are funny
>>534084823>freelol...
>>534085109It's okay.If anon can't afford it, working people will be plundered to pay $50k for a procedure performed by pajeet doctors that costs $5k in India
>>534085181A man without (((insurance))) is like a man who isn't a faggot.
>>534084890You actually do, just nobody gets the benefits.
>>534085487where do you work bro? mcdonalds? must be a huge insult for the superior wal-lords to imply they work at mcdonalds like all of the illegal slaves they own or whatever
>>534084823Free healthcare isn't always good.
>>534084823leftoids want it to be accessible for niggers who aren't citizens.
>>534085252Boomers have Medicare you dumb fuck. Why don't you go back to fucking mooses?
>>534085245
How is it fair that subhuman IQ rightoids hold the rest of us non retards back from having a functioning country?
Americans pay for Europe's defense. They literally use the money they save on defense for "free" healthcare. So, in short, Fuck off Euro Nigger.
>>534084823>my income is so shit that the percentage I pay for health insurance is negligibleWe have that too it’s called welfare and all the niggers and spics are on it.
>>534085841That your best?
>>534084823The problem isn't healthcare. If we had free Healthcare they would complain that somehow rich people have better healthcare. It's just an excuse for why their efforts don't match the lifestyle their mind thinks they deserve.
>>534084823People don't understand that policies aren't infinitely scalable. It's easier for small eurofag countries to provide healthcare because most of their administration is already centralized, and the workload is much smaller with a lower population. They also benefit by shared science and tech meaning US drug R&D makes its way to them with minimal investment. For US to provide public healthcare to its near 400 million residents, the US government itself would need a far more streamlined, centralized administrative authority, similar to China or other massive countries.
>>534085918You just want free shit. Nothing in life is free. Fuck off.
>>534084823>>534084823People don't understand that policies aren't infinitely scalable. It's easier for small eurofag countries to provide healthcare because most of their administration is already centralized, and the workload is much smaller with a lower population. They also benefit by shared science and tech meaning US drug R&D makes its way to them with minimal investment. For US to provide public healthcare to its near 400 million residents, the US government itself would need a far more streamlined, centralized administrative authority, similar to China or other massive countries. American VA is already a good example of how, even at a much smaller scale, the way the US is currently organized just doesn't efficiently manage public healthcare.
>>534085871million dollar houses and the system only wants to keep them alive because they support israel what a cancerous combination we wouldn't need aa million mexicans if we had white families in houses. teenagers would mow your lawn, you don't need juan. housewife stacy would even clean up your house when you're out of town. but noooooooo. you need 20 million mexicans just to justify your million dollar coffins.
>>534085138Democracy sucks manWe're one shot away fromA 3rd term automatically Communism way better than democracy anyways cause less to worry about.New World OrderBefore we ever meet different species from spaceFirmament or 666 numerology in NasaIf we're fighting over oil and healthcareThen we'll never see it through the next era.~Klover15~Lean82~noway55~gh15~ergoFrom all the mods and admins On gh15.org
>>534085878
Paying for everyone's college with grants and loans only made education more expensive and lower quality.
sometimes i wonder if a certain hyperindividuality seen in americans stems them experiencing themselves as phenomenologically more separate from other people and the world. nothing exists in isolation but they act as if they do. some people may be trees, others may identify more with being branches, while others are seemingly autonomous leaves
>>534086021baby boomers had their housing construction subsidized massively after ww2now they want you to buy their shacks for 1 million dollars each plus tip and also they'll be dead in 10 yearsmeanwhile in south america or asia you can get the same house for 50,000 dollars
>>534086067US is structurally far more individualistic than most other countries, though. Your country has what, the same number of people as Jew York? Imagine if every single person who lives in your entire country could fit in one American city; would make administration, scalability, social trust, etc, insanely easy. US has 400 million people spread across 50 semi-autonomous states. There's nothing about that setup that lends itself well to top down, countrywide social programs. Even the military struggles with personnel, efficiency, and average pay for members for similar reasons, and they invest almost a trillion a year into that.
>>534084823Republicans aren't here to improve America or the lives of its citizens. Republicans are here to serve isreal and make as much money as they can during it.
>>534086126I understand that. What do you want me to do about it? I need to eat, pay bills, etc. It's a really fucked world we're living in. What are you doing about it?
>>534086253A lot of boomers are kind of "stuck", because if they sell their houses for less they'll lose money since they remortgaged 10 times and owe like 3X the actual original value of the home. But, that was a problem they caused themselves, so, I say they all commit collective suicide to free up housing and resources for the future generations they've completely fucked over.
>>534086343Welp, at least we are agreed on boomers needing to croak.
>>534086253I hope you feel pity at least. Your generation fucked us but it's not your fault, at least you're here. We just wanted what you had and it was ripped away from us. Shit man, how hard is it to build a log cabin? The masters won't even give us commie blocks like the Soviets had. We're dying out here and they can't wait to replace us.
my health, dental and vision is less than $50 per pay period
>>534086547>I hope you feel pity at least.I don't. I really don't care. I hate to sound like a boomer but my survival > yours. I don't care about you or anyone but my own.Things are fubar. Knock off this fee fee crap. Get with it or get dead.
>>534084823>Why is free healthcare deemed common sense by everyone besides American right wingers?If it's free you are the product.
>>534085281literal nigger tier mentality>this doesn't benefit me immediately, in the present. therefore it is bad and I oppose it
>>534087948Thanks for showing me you're an idiot. You still haven't shown me any justification for why I should support your nigger ass.
>>534084823because free healthcare means jews can't middleman healthcare and rob both sides blind, and American right wingers are jew worshipping retards.
>>534084823Because Europeans' is subsidized by America funding 90% of NATO since forever.
>>534084823>Why is free healthcare deemed common sense by everyone besides American right wingers?
>>534088113Because your question is built on a false premise you retarded toilet cleanerYou're here to troll people and then say that you accept their concession when they realize you're a clown and get bored
>>534088242Wow, nice admission that you don't have a fucking argument to make. Here's an ass pic that you can coom to. Fucking coward hiding behind a memeflag.
>>534088314I'm glad to know that everybody with any sense is leaving your rapist orangutan, and the only support he will have in a few years is dumb ignorant spastics like you
Amerimut kike wingers love free healthcare though? They're the ones demanding the tax payers of the goynated sharts give isn't real trillions of dollars for their healthcare
>>534088418What the fuck? lmao. I've never even voted. That fat nigger in charge can eat a bullet for all I care. You're just looking for something to be offended by.
>>534088464>You're just looking for something to be offended by.Lol I accept your concession
>>534088619I still see no argument. Concession your blown out ass. Why not show where you're really from. Maybe then we can have an honest discussion.
>534088672You're here to have an argument even though you don't know what the fuck you're talking about and you've been told to lurk more and post lessMany countries have functioning socialized healthcare, again including pissrael that owns the USA. Your question is a strawman and pure fuckery. Your cope about "concession your blown out whatever" is too childish to earn a (You), honestly. I don't believe you're 30
>>534088418>*Unzips Pants*>Here comes the orange cheetoKek>Girl goes quiet>Grabs her by the pussy>You're not even a real girl>Relax I'll pay you a $20
>>534088797>can't even reply properly >still hiding
>>534088836Lol also>Scream and I'll cut you bitch
>>534088875
Quit harassing me you fucking child. You are actually repulsive
>>534088944
>>534086762that "fuck you got mine" boomer attitude is why your country is a nigrified spic infested shithole ruled by jews who rape and torture your kids and think it's funny.
>>534084890You pay for the healthcare of Israelis
>>534089081And you think your shithole isn't either? Pot meet kettle. What are you doing about it?
>>534084823>Bragging about the NHS HAAHHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAH Here's the thing faggot, if you are poor in the US, you will essentially get great care because the VAST MAJORITY of hospitals are "non profits" which BY LAW must accept charity to pay for your bills and can't charge you if you are below the poverty line. This isn't even getting into the fact that the VAST majority of poor people are already being completely subsidized on Medicaid which, hilariously, is better than almost every private insurance. If you're rich, who cares you can go anywhere you want and get the best healthcare services in the entire world. If youre middle class you are actually kind of fucked in some ways. At best, you have to deal with your deductible and co pays. At worst, your insurance will fuck you and refuse to cover for services already rendered. Regardless, the NHS is a fucking joke and the entire system is bogged down with ridiculous wait times and staff shortages.This isn't a thing in the US because our system isn't single payer. Fuck off and die eurocuck.
>>534089112I already addressed this.
>>534084823>4% of income tax>for me it's 10Lol what an absolute poor faggot.
>>534084823>4% of my income is €10So this lying tumblrite fuck is making 250 euros a monthEven here in an african country that would be many times below the poverty lineWhat sort of imbecile fails at lying this badly
>>534089141>VAST MAJORITY of hospitals are "non profits" which BY LAW must accept charity to pay for your bills and can't charge you if you are below the poverty line.>Under the Affordable Care Act (ACA), nearly 60% of US community hospitals are private non-profit organizations that must provide community benefits to maintain tax-exempt status. These benefits often include providing free or discounted care—known as charity care or financial assistance—to patients who meet certain income criteria. So that's Obama It's community benefitsIt's called "charity care"You're basically saying you want people to be poor and receive healthcare as a charity case. For freeInstead of the same kind of care being available to everybody, not just charity cases You're the reason this place is the way it is, just like the ones before you
>>534084890but you'll gladly pay for Israel's wars and the Epstein class' epic ballroom just like a Disney movie :D
>>534084823Because the healthcare of practically everyone in the world is subsidized by the American taxpayer.
>>534089265It's like you retards can't read. Wasn't the literacy rate down or something? No wonder I have to deal with morons like you and that memeflaggot on here.
>>534089355the only retard here is the faggot posting tranime reaction faces
>>534089407Where do you think you are faggot?
>>534084823Yes we pay 800€ a month for free health care if you have business in Europe and make maybe 400€. Jelly prepuceless Americans will never understand how amazing free health care is.
>>534088797>Many countries have functioning socialized healthcareFinland for sure doesn't, unless your medical issue is immediate injury. My mom had to wait over a year to public healthcare dentist. She could've afforded private, but as it wasn't acute she figured she might as well save thousand euros.
>>534089546You guys are poor as fuck and have to wait forever for medical assistance. So envious.
>>534084890You spend more on healthcare relative to population than anywhere else on the planet but the cool thing is that you don't actually get the care but it goes straight to pharma and healthcare jews who bill the government with a 500% markup while having lobbyists making sure it stays that way
>>534084890youd rather just pay high taxes and get absolutely nothing in return I guess. 5,000 dollar toilet seats and 90 hours a week overtime for people who aren't doing shit are the way brother, thats where I want my taxes to go.
>>534089702I know we are fucked. Don't act like you have it better. Why are euros so arrogant?
>>534084823jews
>>534084823>free healthcare, Israel: :D>free healthcare, goyim: :(
>>534089750>paying taxesChump
>>534084823Other countries don't limit the number of doctors. The jewish american medical association uses the residency program to limit number of doctors in the USA, and nobody ever talks about it.The problem is not universal vs free market. the problem is we have an artificially restricted market.
The way things are going, you retards best stop worrying about currency and more about survival.
>>534084890>>534085104You pay anyway. Every penny you get taxed in any way could end up as gibs to niggers.Then niggers will buy private healthcare with those money, and be given a share of money from your private healthcare payouts when they need it. And they will get it, niggers are priviledged over the whites.You effectively end up paying for nigger healthcare twice, on top of paying for jewish healthcare, free schooling and dedicated savings accounts for every newborn in Israel. Pay your taxes goy.
free healthcare requires the government to set limits on the prices of medicine and medical procedures. insurance companies, big pharma, and for profit hospitals (which are most of them) don't like that. neither do doctors, though at least in their case i sympathize, since by the time they graduate from medical school they're at least a quarter mil in debtit's these industries and their lobbies that stall any kind of progress, the average rightoid migger telling you to pull yourself up by your bootstraps while making low six figures doesn't matter at all in the grand scheme of things
>>534089763The difference is that i get taxed 35% and i get free healthcare and education, you pay 25% taxes and pay 400 a month in insurance and 300k for college
In the Netherlands I pay almost 200 euros a month for 'free healthcare'
>>534089251>You're basically saying you want people to be poor and receive healthcare as a charity case. For freeInstead of the same kind of care being available to everybody, not just charity casesNo nigger, I am stating objective fact because leftist scum LOVE to parrot the lie that hospitals force poor people to pay huge amounts of money, they do not.Why do you zoomers have such poor reading comprehension? Universal healthcare would be an absolute disaster in the US. As someone who has worked inpatient, outpatient, retail, industry and corporate, ALL under the context of a healthcare field, I absolutely promise you, you people have no idea you are talking about.Drugs are ONLY expensive because of PBM's. Procedures are ONLY expensive because similar to universities, hospitals primary patients pay via subsidized government programs like medicaid and medicare. You know, TAX PAYER MONEY. Leftists answer to this is the typical dumb fuck faggot leftist response of simply centralizing everything and making the ENTIRE SYSTEM dependent on tay payers directly, fully guaranteeing maximum inefficiency because THE GOVERNMENT DOESN'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT TAX PAYER MONEY. THE GOVERNMENT DOESN'T HAVE TO BALANCE THEIR BOOKS THEY JUST PRINT MONEY FROM THE FEDERAL RESERVE TO MAKE UP THE GAP. WHO CARES IF DEBT TO GDP IS OVER A HUNDRED PERCENT!? GUESS WHAT THAT CAUSES!? That cause HOSPITALS AND EVERYONE ELSE TO "PRICE DISCOVER!"Price discovery means LETS SEE HOW MUCH WE CAN CHARGE THE GOVERNMENT! BECAUSE THE GOVERNMENT DOESN'T FUCKING CARE!!!!!! THEY JUST PAY PAY PAY!!!!! Guess who gets FUCKED by that? The taypayer! Guess who gets ENRICHED by that, THE HOSPITAL ADMINISTRATORS, JUST LIKE THE UNIVERSITY ADMINISTRATORS!!!! You DUMB FUCK LEFTISTS can understand this concept because YOU DONT UNDERSTAND HOW ANYTHING ACTUALLY WORKS IN THE REAL WORLD.
>>534090193Have to?>free healthcare and educationAh yes, I'd love to be treated by diversity hires and have a degree that is worth less than the paper it's printed on.
>>534089911Reminder anime posts outside of anime boards are a form of cope since they can't post something that genuinely makes them feel good, ergo they have to resort to a substitute. Sorry, I didn't make the rules.
>>534090318If you have better doctors why is the life expectancy 8 years lower
>>534090339You don't know the rules then retard. Anime site. Anime boards. I'd suggest you lurk more.
>>534090387Because we are run by idiots who only care about money and retarded semetic prophecies. The irony is not lost on me.
>>534084823>Why is free healthcare deemed common sense by everyone besides American right wingers?"Free" healthcare is currently 25% of the budget and we have $39 TRILLION in debt that's growing every year. How much more do you want to spend on "Free" healthcare? 30% of the budget? 40% 50%?
>>534090419You should move to europe for a few months to wipe off some of the talmudic grease, the moment you eat or drink anything here will be eye opening.
>>534090496Been there already. Same slop as in America.Just dessed a little nicer.
>>534090419Semitic*You're welcome, asshole weeb
>>534089763>Don't act like you have it better.I litteraly got hit by a bus last month, spend a week in a hospital, have regular imagery to follow my broken collarbone healing and my other small injury and visit to the doctor. I paid 300-400 euro total and like 50% paid repaid by the social security and my complementary insurance. At no point I had to worry about my doctor be convered by (((insurance network))) and insurance refusal or being raped by a retarded medical bill because it doesn't exist in my country.We don't pretend to have it better, we have it better unlike Fox News, (((lobbyist))) and AIPAC paid politician brainwashed you to believe.
>>534090678Don't break your arm patting yourself on the back so much
>>534090678>>534090799Lol then you'll know what a hospital bill looks like if you have the wrong insurance
>>534090765Lmao, You need all that shit? Do you even own a home? Guessing you rent.>>534090743Thanks, fucktard sand nigger
>>534090799No worry about that. We're built strong.>>534090847Already have. No issue.
>>534090884You're so cool. Post more cartoon lolis to show how much better you are than everybody elseNobody has arguments bro. Just you and your anime
>>534090765And yes I'm aware of the kikery in our government. Are you aware of it in yours? Talking a lot of shit for someone in a similar position.
>>534090933True. You can't argue for shit. Here have one on me, again, you meme flaggot coward.
>>534085093Im American and live in Norway now vote republican, and im convinced the socialized system is better after living in it.
It's definitely not free, but I do think socialized healthcare with private options is the best bet. What a lot of people fail to recognize is that the current healthcare system in the US includes a lot of subsidization where John Doe comes in and leaves without giving his name so they have to make up the loss from paying customers, that hospitals overcharge health insurance companies and health insurance companies have made up that difference by offering progressively worse plans over time, and finally that investing in the health of the general public actually has a return in that you're less likely to get sick from unhealthy strangers.
>>534091087Some closeted fag weebs could learn a lot from your post
>>534091368Back handed insults like that are fem coded. Post tits.
Ummm yeah Ben Shapiro told me that America has the best medical care in the world so shut up europoors. Who cares if one of the leading causes of death is medical malpractice and one of the leading causes of bankruptcy is medical debt which contributes to roughly 62% to 67% of all personal bankruptcy filings.
>>534090446Detract from defense, from Israel, from perpetuating proxy war through your intelligence agencies, and put more money into healthcare and education. I know it sounds antisemitic, but you must take care of your own more than worrying about shitholes over the ocean.
>>534090858>Lmao, You need all that shit? Do you even own a home? Guessing you rent.I own my home and I noticed your typical amerigolem reply.
>>534092078Good for you then. I'm tired so I'm gonna sleep. Nice shitposting with you.
>>534090970I am aware but the topic here is healthcare system.My point is that I could be treated without being charged with retarded price, is it perfect ? No, but at least I'm treated.And as usual the American reply is "hur dur europoor" because considering a basic healthcare system where you pay every month in exchange of being treated in case of illness/injury without being fucked at every corner by insurance is stoke inducing for you.
>>534091678If the shoe fits, shove it up your ass
Yeah bro, only 5% of my pay check!https://archive.is/xVPBLOh? They wont see me? My urgent referral has a two year wait list and my career is completely fucked because I'm too sick to work?Many such cases.
>>534084958But you ARE paying for free healthcare for niggers and spics retard, they get it for FREE while YOU pay way over the odds. Why can't you fucking retards get that through your fucking skulls?
>>534084890You already do. 30% of the federal budget, actually.
