>be Russia>used by Tolkien as basis for Mordor>has territory called Mordovia>is turning into actual Mordor Lmao
>>534092397Norilsk in Russia is a peak Mordor.They can be Isengard at best.
>>534092397Tolkien's basis for Mordor was Germany
>>534092600>race of cruel caricature of humans >use cruelty and punishments to motivate their soldiers to fight>located in far east>uses subjugated humans to bolster their ranksTolkien thought about Germans when he was writing it but final product was clearly modelled after Mongols-Russians
>ukrainian naforetard still going about harry potter, avengers and orcsgo back to ukraine and get picked up and die
Damn another Russia thread. We need another board for you guys to dish it out.
>>534092397>>used by Tolkien as basis for MordorIt literally wasn't Turkey maybe
>>534093539>AMERICA >AMERICA>IRAN>CHINA>wtf why are talking about Russia on this board about international politics!!!
>>534093673You sound stressed and butthurt.
>>534093673this is an american board first and foremost
I lived in Rostov for almost two years in the early 2000s, I really enjoyed my time there.
>>534093804Nice projection, I’m enjoying view of Russian cities returning to its natural form, with toxic rivers, chemical rains and huge black smoggy cloud covering sun
Ironically, in our version of The Lord of the Rings, the alliance of humans and elves is the bad guys, while the orcs just want to go about their own business.
>>534092756>but final product was clearly modelled after Mongols-RussiansI don't think you know what British wartime thought about the Germans looked like.
>>534092397looks comfy
>>534092397Mordor was model for industrial society and tolkien himself said he didnt like using allegories for anyone.
>>534092756Angloids were screeching for centuries about a rising Germany being scared that we overtake them which we did and Tolkien believed the same propaganda nonsense.But yeah looking at the facts Mordor is clearly Russia.
>>534092397They will contain the fire, and you'll go back to seething.
>>534092397>be hohol>flee from mobilization>wife has to sell body>smokes methkek
>>534092397Mordor is based on turkey and orcs are based on mongol Turkic raiders. Why they are yellow midgets on little mounts.
>>534094099>They will contain the fireAnd then it will get bombed again.
>>534094044Brits really started to hate Germans after they raped Belgium
>>534092397the Tuapse volcano is way more kino, with the rivers on fire and the streets melting.
>>534092756Literally Germany. They're basically hunnic savages. Started two world wars for no reason but to kill and rape. Abducted millions and forced them into labour camps or death batallions. And yes, as far as any civilized country is concerned, they are in the oriental east
>>534094099Sir, this 28th day in a row you said they will contain the fire but everything is still burning in Puccia
>>534094127That's war, shit is always burning in Ukraine - but you will pretend it's winning.
>>534092397>be Tolkien fan>insist on applying allegory to his work despite him specific stating that he hates allegory Mordor is mordor bruz
>>534094168>That's warThat's the result of 4 years of Special Military Operation to denazify and demilitarize Ukraine.
>>534092600>>534092397Tolkien's basis for Mordor was industrialization
>>534094117Always funny when a subhuman Russian says this while living in Germany.
>>534094230>t. swarthiest turkroach nato could afford to pay for shilling
>>534092600>>534092756>>534094120>>534094150Congratulations!You were all too retarded to read Tolkien's own words on this very subject.
>>534094146>British started to hate Germans after they believed British created propaganda nonsense
>>534094230>t. Ahmed
>>534094230you will have to go back merz will pay me^^
>>534094259Okay post them then
>>534094216Yes, let's hope we get a few more years of war, shit's been kino.
>>534094271>we dindu nuffinTruly the niggers of europe
>>534094311Few more years of daily burning oil refineries and oil rains?
>>534094307Go open up your second edition or newer book and read the foreword.You DO own the book you're claiming to know all about don't you anon?
>>534094259No you are a coping. Tolkien always denied obvious influences and allegory. Even George MacDonald he was suddenly like um actually I never liked him!
>>534094334You're not a real country you're a Autobahn to France nothing more.
>>534094353Among other things. The important thing is that Ukrainians keep dying.
>>534094381My country is older than yours homo ahahahahaCaesar even called us the bravest of people because we had to live next to you retards
>>534094477>The important thing is that Ukrainians keep dying.Yeah, because pidors dying is not important.
>>534092756Hitler hated you and he was right.
>>534094515It is not important to me lmao - to me both of you are pidors. You're just worse.
>>534094477Kek, good to see that not even pro-Russians care about Russian lives
>>534094574>It is not important to me lmaoIt's not important to anyone lmaoWhy else would you send them to cavalry charge drone kill zones?
>>534094515It's like a 1:30 ratio bro
>>534094639What happens if one side just stops picking up corpses and let them be eaten by wildlife?How do you think it would reflect on you cope graph?
>>534094608I wouldn't describe myself as pro-russian - I just hate nafoids and ukrainians. I am quite unironically "to the last ukrainian" on this war. I don't care how many dead Russians in takes to get that done.
>>534094639Pro-Russians holding on dear life for body exchange ratio but can’t explain Mediazona, oryx, warspotting
>>534094778And I'm sure Ukraine has 30k dead like Zelenkike says lmao.
>>534094695LolLmao even
>>534092397Mordvins are a Uralic people, our cousins. Stop talking shit about them. Tolkien worshipped us. WE>>534094639>being this retarded unironicallyIf the actual ratio of kills was that ratio in Russia's favor they'd have conquered the entire Ukraine a long time ago. They've been doing meat squad assaults for two and a half years straight now after Ukraine's failed counteroffensive, but according to you it's Ukrainian troops who are dying in far larger numbers. Yours is a level of stupidity that cannot be cured.
>>534094778Here's what you do, you take that number, you multiply it by 30, and then you know how many dead ukrainians there are
>>534094845>no answerlol lmao indeed
>>534092756you just described germans yes>>534094083>Angloids were screeching for centuriesno they weren't because germany didn't exist for centuries. anglos screamed about their actual enemy, the french. the germans were a collection of backwards shitholes no one cared about. they only became an issue after 1870 when the country of germanys was actually founded. because one of the kaisers then decided he was going to outcompete his cousin. it didn't work and the german empire stopped existing less than fifty years after it was founded. tl;dr you fucking suck at everything apparently.
>>534094895>we didn't want the peremoga anyway
>>534094978>>we didn't want the peremogaWhat? What are you even trying to say?I think you are using this Ukrainian loan word wrongly.
What did she mean by this?
>>534095017>oink oink
>>534095076>oink oinkHere you go.
>>534094376That's Tolkien's own cope. LOTR is blatantly just Christianity vs Islam with a dash of Tolkien hating industrialism (Saruman). Mordor is Turkey, a mountainous land of subhumans and the enslaved who bow to an evil master who presumes he's the foremost messenger of God. Sauron is Muhammad. Morgoth is Satan, but in Sauron's view is God (Allah).
>>534094150Literally none of world wars was started by Germany. Only the Frankoprussian war was provoked by the devious Bismarck, but even there the trigger was pulled by the french
>be minislav in shit country ransacked by russia germany austria for 700 years>quote tolkien
>>534095167The fuck are you talking about? Germany started both world wars. One directly and one via Austrian proxies.
>>534094952>What is the HREwhy do retards think germany popped into existence out of nothing?do you think central europe was occupied by a black hole before 1871?lol lmaoread some fucking history
>>534095154Also this is the most retarded interpretation of LOTR shit ive ever heard, even vargs pagan nonsense makes more sense you stupid beaner
>>534095206No. For coming from a country who cares so much about historical facts, somehow you got everything wrong. Another rewriting of history, huh, mr commie?
>>534095346WW I started when Germany backed Austria in their attack on Serbia, which triggered a world war. Germany knew very well that this would happen and gave their backing to Austria specifically because Berlin wanted a war and thought it would be over by Christmas.WW II started when Germany invaded Poland.
>>534095346Historical fact is that western powers made Germany sign a humiliating treaty, defeated you in WW1 and made your interwar years hell, but instead of seeing them as enemies and taking the anger out on them you made successful offensives in the west, treated them like ordinary citizens, cried they don't see you as equals and then proceeded to go on a murder campaign against Slavs and getting even more angry when some of us dared fight back.
>>534092397I thought Tolkien was using turkey as Mordor since it's geographic location and brown or hordes were a close match?
>>534095564Btw. For your information. Without USSR, ironically, you would never be able to lead WWII. And without the Weimar government in the 1920s making the 30s and 40s possible. There's really some superb understanding of history here. USSR, Germany, UK and the US portraying themselves as the victims while they were trying to pit everyone else against each other is the only conclusion you can draw from WWII, not only "muh commies". And everyone is shitting on the Weimar while not realising just how much they've made Germany's rapid rearmament possible.
>>534095346Krsuts are the destroyers of Europe
>>534092397Mordor was nazi germany and industrialization of UK, though. If you're gonna call ruskis retarded subhuman invaders at least do it in a less redditor way than quoting marvel-esque redditor favorite media literate books and somehow still missunderstanding them.
>>534095623The Haradrim were inspired by Arabs/Turks/Persians. They were enslaved by Sauron and forced to worship Morgoth. In Tolkein's time the threat of Russia expanding into Turkey and absorbing the Ottoman Empire was considered very real, absurd based on what people know now about Russia's actual capabilities, but the Brits considered Russia to be a world domination level threat based on their aggressive expansion eastward.
The Russians are 'Rhun' in Tolkiens work. People who are somtimes under the spell of evil and sometimes just being there. Germany is around northern and central Mirkwood, but not the elves because there live many men at the edges of Mirkwood and along the Anduin. The Beornlings. The northern woodmen (ancesteors of the Rohirrim who moved south). ect. When southern Mirkwood turned evil under Sauron, some men there served him as well (evil Germans). The only nation that Tolkien mentioned by name of being an influence to orcs Uruk Hai, then it would be the mongolian hordes under Ghengis Khan. Also the Siege of Minas Tirith is most probably influenced by the siege of Vienna so Tolkien possibly didn't fuck with the Ottomans (conquered a city and turned it evil - Konstantinople/Istanbul)
>>534095206>Germany started both world warswho declared war on who first?
>>534097733Germany declared war on Russia and France during WW IGermany declared war on Poland during WW II
>>534097895Both responses to prior declarations of war against them.
>>534097934stfu, dumb nigger tranny. nobody asked for your low IQ subhuman opinion ;)
>>534095167>>534095346>*invades you*>*tells you you started it*>*thinks its enough*
>>534098450Russians invaded Poland in 1939
