Buddhism is the East's version of Christianity. Jeets rejecting it means they're the East's version of Jews.
Buddhism is not an attempt reform Hinduism, although Hinduism took a lot from Buddhism
BLODDY NO
>>534107614Both Buddha and Indra were White men. Asians and Indians literally made a cargo cult for BWC.
>>534107614That's why they love each other so much.
I could be grossly misunderstanding this, but I thought Buddhism was initially a fairly simple renunciation set of practices and beliefs, which in moderation could be followed by laymen to overcome human desires controlling them.All the weird layers of reality shit, gods, demons, were added later and muddied the water.
>>534107614Oi Vey Buddha is Rabi ackshually Enlightenmentstein
>>534107720This. Patanjali literally copied his ideas from buddhism. Shankaracharya copied his ideas from buddhism. Yoga was copied and stolen from buddhist meditation. Hinduism isn't even a real religion.
>>534107614Buddhism is gay just like Christianity. I am surprised the pope and the dalai lama didn't have an interfaith butt fucking session
>>534109089Tibetan Buddhism is a very weird and minority sect with idiosyncratic beliefs and texts
>>534108860mohammad you stupid little butt slut, you little butt whore for zutt cock, you dont even know what any of these things mean, mohammad little you bottom fag, shut your leaky poo sand nigger ass
>>534108802Fecaloid
>>534109536hinduism ad the hindi language were made up as a joke on street shitters by 5 scots an irishman who hated the concept of squirrels and a fat gassy englishman in the 1700s. and the street shitters still havent gotten the joke.
>>534109089If there are any Buddhists on the planet you won't know they exist. Losers wearing orange robes aren't Buddhist if for no other reason than they're attached to traditions.>I shaved my head because I wasn't attached to having hair :)That's so stupid, like those dips who make those works of art then destroy them when they're finished. If you feel the need to prove you aren't attached to something then you're doing it wrong.
>>534107736they started the joke in the 1740s.
>>534109743>>534109564and here comes the foreskinless brainlets
>>534109845https://youtu.be/uI5WRxknOqAOH NO!!! ITS THE 45TH BOWEL MOVEMENT OF THE DAY!!
>>534107614Buddhism is more complex than Retardtianity
>>534109806it says 5k years here
>>534107614Actually decent take.
>>534109954>has diarrheathen put that zutt cock back in your asshole mohammad
>>534110154Do you spray diarrhea on command when you get angry?
>>534110154BICHOD BLOODY BITCH BASTERD, BITCH LASAGNA!!! CLEAN UP IN AISLE 2, PAJEET. EVEN YOUR OWN SILLY GODS HATE YOU. YOUR WOMEN ARE WHORES FOR THE BIG GREEK COCK SINCE ALEXANDER SHITTED ON YOUR HEADS.>now do that cerebral palsy head wobble
>>534108158>All the weird layers of reality shit, gods, demons, were added later and muddied the waterThey were always there, but they're also part of Samsara and are not to be worshipped. It's a western misunderstanding, or rather applying the atheistic worldview, that Buddhists don't believe in god so therefore there's no god or spirits. >In Buddhism, "inherently empty" (Śūnyatā) means that all phenomena—including the self, objects, and experiences—lack an independent, permanent, or solid "self-nature".>>534109784>If you feel the need to prove you aren't attached to something then you're doing it wrong.What is the right way?
>>534110154stop raping old man dikshit
>>534108158Yeah a lot of stuff got tacked on later but if it didn't, Buddhism wouldn't have survived against more muscular religions.
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hinduism was just an umbrella term used to refer to all the different types of pagans in the indian subcontinent.
>>534108158Hence why zen became a thing, it's the deconstruction of religious practices into practical application. Would've been bomb is the god king mentality of Asia didn't deep it's way in
>>534108158>Buddhism was initially a fairly simple renunciation set of practices and beliefs, which in moderation could be followed by laymenLaymen?Do you know what the Sangha is?
>>5341076141) Buddha at his own poop and cow poop in the Pali Canon2) The Indian schools of Buddhism including Theravada/Abhidharma are all dogshit and were refuted by Hindu philosphers, the only good schools of Buddhism in Mahayana and Vajrayana are most just crypto-Shaivism and crypto-Daoism in Buddhist window-dressing>>534107720>although Hinduism took a lot from BuddhismIt's the reverse, 90% of Buddhist ideas like karma, rebirth, meditation, renunciation, non-violence etc are in the early Upanishads before Buddha even lived
>>534108158>All the weird layers of reality shit, gods, demons, were added later and muddied the water.This is a modernist propaganda narrative told by crypto-materialist modernist buddhists who dont follow any traditional Buddhist doctrine or school.In the Pali Canon the supernatural crap is deeply interwoven into the doctrines and the threat of a bad rebirth and associated suffering is used by Buddha as a guilt-trip to get people to take his teachings seriously just like a preacher warning about hell.>>534108860>This. Patanjali literally copied his ideas from buddhismUntrue, Yoga is centered around distinguishing Purusha from Prakriti and using meditation as an aid to this, both of which are discussed in early Upanishads.. >Shankaracharya copied his ideas from buddhism. Incorrect, Shankaracharya refuted Buddhism>Hinduism isn't even a real religion.Yes it is, and it overtook Buddhism in its own homeleand>>534110964>Hence why zen became a thing, it's the deconstruction of religious practices into practical application. Would've been bomb is the god king mentality of Asia didn't deep it's way inThis is just a modern Japanese re-interpretation inspired by contact with western empiricism and protestantism in the 18th century and which is uncritically regurgitated by braindead redditors. It has nothing to do with reality.Zen is the direct off-shoot of Chinese Ch'an which is deeply mystical and metaphysical and many schools view Buddha-nature as an enlightened awareness existing everywhere as the nature of reality. Before the Meiji restoration Zen and 'supernatural' tantric Buddhism constantly intermingled and practiced each others methods and teachings in Japan.
>>534110733>hinduism was just an umbrella term used to refer to all the different types of pagans in the indian subcontinent.What defines them as Hindu is if they take the Vedas as their scripture or not.Every school of Hinduism in all its denominations all accept Vedas (and Upanishads) as revealed scripture. Some just add additional scriptures on top of this.
>>534113706Kumar, even your priests do not know what's in these so called scriptures that you larp about. Most of which was literally made up just so your brahmins could grab shekels from the brits in name of scholarship.Your entire larp falls apart even more when you unironically claim there are schools of hinduism or denominations. It's pathetic that you don't even realise that by claiming those, you are trying to mimic abrahimic faiths which actually have canons. This is even more retarded than referring to the various hellenic pagans who used to worship different deities as different denominations.
>>534107614it makes sense
>>534113268>It's the reverse, 90% of Buddhist ideas like karma, rebirth, meditation, renunciation, non-violence etc are in the early Upanishads before Buddha even livedA lot of you guys say this but I have looked at the pre Buddhists mentions of karma and reincarnation in the Upanishads and they are extremely tenuous.
>>534114781Plus there are differences between how they act in Buddhism (at least Theravada) and Hunduism. Buddhism doesn't acknowledge a soul while Hinduism does. Buddhist reincarnation is a chain of karma and not the movement of a soul to a new body. I'm sure this differs in later buddhist schools though.
>>534113706What's the point of you talking about God or religion when you can't even stop the rapes and clean up the garbage on your streets? Indian males would rather harass white women online for bobs pics instead of doing something useful like building toilets or cleaning the streets. All your talk of God's is fucking worthless. Become a human first, which you can't. That's why you hide behind bullshit religion and "muh ancient civilization" which never even existed. You have nothing. You are fucking worthless.
>>534113646Chan Buddhism is not deeply mystical and metaphysical. It focuses shunyata/emptiness in continuity with mahayana. its nothing like vajrayana which is deeply mystical and metaphysical
>>534115172Instead of talking about religion, pajeet, how about you stop the rapes and clean up the trash on the street?
>>534114479> Kumar, I’m not Indian, I’m a Giga-brain white perennialistchad who studies all religions, the ultimate metaphysical truth is non-dualism, i.e. Advaita Vedanta, Kashmir Shaivaim, Dzogchen, certain Chan schools etc. A lot of Buddhism is dogshit but even some Buddhist schools still end up reaching the truth of non-dualism but expressed in Buddhist terms.Hinduism is basically less-gay, less-redditor, less-feminine, less-materialist Buddhism (or Buddhism is a version of Hinduism that is just more gay and feminine etc) that also has a closer connection to its Indo-European roots, the Upanishads are Hyperborean. >even your priests do not know what's in these so called scriptures that you larp about.That’s not true, traditional Brahminical studies among Pandits incudes formal training in Sanskrit, Logic (Nyaya) and Hermenutics (Mimamsa) during which one intensively studies the Vedas. Do you think I’m impressed by lies?>Most of which was literally made up just so your brahmins could grab shekels from the brits in name of scholarship.The Vedas and early Upanishads predate Buddhism, much less Europeans in India.>Your entire larp falls apart even more when you unironically claim there are schools of hinduism or denominations. There are, are you just ignorant? Even mainstream atheist secular scholars concede this. Most formalized and codified Indian schools of thought formulate their official doctrine in Sutra-style texts, each Vedanta school lays out its official codified doctrine in a commentary on the Brahma Sutras.>It's pathetic that you don't even realise that by claiming those, you are trying to mimic abrahimic faiths which actually have canons.Hindu schools had organized canons before modern European contact, the Brahma Sutras and its various commentaries predate European contact.
>>534115234Pajeet, instead of talking about religion, why don't you go stop the rapes and clean up the garbage off your streets? You are fucking worthless.
>>534115255we had dalits for that, but they got too uppity
>>534115286Have sex, incel. All your doing is spewing bullshit pie in the sky philosophy cause you've never even fucked a woman before.
>>534115234> Chan Buddhism is not deeply mystical and metaphysical. IThis is refuted by the writings of Zongmi, Huangpo and Chinul
>>534115341You're a literal cancer. And the entire world thinks so. Go to Facebook and read what normies are writing about indians
>>534115383that's where all the dalits went, facebook?
>>534115286Malaun, you really aren't helping your case. It's very clear what you are.Read some hegel and see what actual historians and philosophers really thought about your bullshit.
>>534107614Buddism is great. I'm trying to balance Christianity with compassion and wisdom of buddhism. CHRIST IS KING but I have zero doubts the Buddha was onto something. Everywhere you look buddism has answers about why things are the way they are
>>534115234> It focuses shunyata/emptiness in continuity with mahayanaAlso, adding to my previous reply, there are different schools and lineages with Chan, but many of them interpret the ultimate “emptiness” in a more metaphysical sense to mean not simply absence-of-own-being, but rather in addition to this first sense which is affirmed of everyday objects it also denotes that while indeed there is an all-pervasive unconditioned primordially enlightened Buddha-nature awareness present within everything including rocks, that its “empty” in the sense of not being a discrete substance or object existing on the same plane of other objects, but this does not deny that its still genuinely present in all things and is one’s ‘original face’ of luminous awareness.
>>534114781>A lot of you guys say this but I have looked at the pre Buddhists mentions of karma and reincarnation in the Upanishads and they are extremely tenuous.The conceptual foundations of Patañjali’s system as articulated in the Yoga Sutras of Patanjali can be traced with considerable precision to themes already present in the early Upanishads, especially the Katha Upanishad, the Shvetashvatara Upanishad, and the Maitri Upanishad. The Katha Upanishad, particularly in sections I.3.3–9, presents the chariot allegory that subordinates the senses and mind to an inner self, anticipating Patañjali’s concern with the restraint of mental fluctuations in Yoga Sutra I.2. The Shvetashvatara Upanishad in II.8–15 and VI.10–23 outlines meditative techniques, bodily stillness, and concentration on the divine that closely parallel the yogic disciplines codified in the second and third pādas of the Yoga Sutras, while also introducing a proto theistic orientation that resonates with Patañjali’s concept of Īśvara in I.23–29. The Maitri Upanishad, especially in VI.18–34, develops an explicit taxonomy of yoga that includes control of breath, withdrawal of the senses, concentration, meditation, and absorption, which strongly prefigures the aṣṭāṅga scheme formalized in Yoga Sutra II.29. Across these texts one finds not only terminological continuities such as dhyāna, prāṇāyāma, and samādhi, but also a shared soteriological aim centered on disentangling consciousness from empirical entanglement, thereby demonstrating that Patañjali’s synthesis represents a systematic codification of contemplative and metaphysical currents already well established in the late Vedic milieu.Also, the Brihadaranyaka Upanishad which is prebuddhist discusses transmigration at length, it uses various metaphors for it like a leech passing between blades of grass, it also talks about how karma and the things ones mind is drawn to directly condition the next birth.
>>534116003Go ahead, quote something pre Buddhist
>>534107614Reject Paganism, it is the poison that kills the world.
>>534115561> Read some hegelA pseud >and see what actual historians and philosophers really thought about your bullshit.Traditionalism/Perennialism is eminently defensible and coherent, if some hylic indoctrinated by materialist doesnt get it, what does that matter?
>>534115769>all-pervasive unconditioned primordially enlightened Buddha-nature awareness present within everything including rocks, that its “empty” in the sense of not being a discrete substance or object existing on the same plane of other objects, but this does not deny that its still genuinely present in all things and is one’s ‘original face’ of luminous awareness.This like DT Suzuki japanese interpretation of emptiness. more universe aware. im more interested in the void and it's interdependence
>>534116285>Salvation through faithBut Jesus didn't teach that, he said salvation is of the Jews.
>>534116151>Go ahead, quote something pre BuddhistThrough that brightened top the self departs,‘either through the eye, or through the head, or through any other part of the body. When it departs, the vital force follows; when the vital force departs, all the organs follow. Then the self has particular consciousness, and goes to the body which is related to that con-scioṇsness. It is followed by knowledge, work and past experience.- Brihadaranyaka 4.4.2, abbreviatedJust as a leech supported on a straw goes to the end of it, takes hold of another support and contracts itself, so does the self throw this body aside—make it senseless—take hold of another support, and contract itself.- Brihadaranyaka 4.4.3Regarding this there is the following verse: ‘Being attached, he, together with the work, attains that result to which his subtle body or mind is attached. Exhausting the results of whatever work he did in this life, he returns from that world to this for (fresh) work.’ Thus does the man who desires (transmigrate). But the man who does not desire (never transmigrates). Of him who is without desires, who is free from desires, the objects of whose desire have been attained, and to whom all objects of desire are but the Self—the organs do not depart. Being but Brahman, he is merged in Brahman.- Brihadaranyaka 4.4.6All of those passages are preBuddhist and can be found on this pagehttps://www.wisdomlib.org/hinduism/book/the-brihadaranyaka-upanishad/d/doc122058.html
>>534116520John 14:6 - Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
>>534116326> This like DT Suzuki japanese interpretation of emptiness.That may be so, but its basically the view of major and influential Chan masters like Huangpo, Zongmi and Chinul.Zongmi was the first Chinese philosopher so synthesize Chan into a defensible and coherent philosophy and that was his view.Chinuls view of Chan which is mostly the same is also largely dominant in Korean Buddhism.
>>534107720The concept of Hinduism as a single religion didn't exist when Buddhism started.There was nothing to reform really.
>>534107614god is a child raping kikethere is no omnipotencejesus christ is a liar and we are all our own godswho the fuck would worship a shit on the floor.
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>>534116003Sounds like a bunch of cope jamboy
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>>534107614What is DN 8:3-4?
>>534117483>Dalit nigger 8:3-4
>>534117483Digha Nikaya
>>534117284John 4:19-26 - 19 The woman said to him, “Sir, I perceive that you are a prophet. 20 Our fathers worshiped on this mountain, but you say that in Jerusalem is the place where people ought to worship.” 21 Jesus said to her, “Woman, believe me, the hour is coming when neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem will you worship the Father. 22 You worship what you do not know; we worship what we know, for salvation is from the Jews. 23 But the hour is coming, and is now here, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for the Father is seeking such people to worship him. 24 God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth.” 25 The woman said to him, “I know that Messiah is coming (he who is called Christ). When he comes, he will tell us all things.” 26 Jesus said to her, “I who speak to you am he.”
>>534117343Damn… somebody posted a memeI guess now I’ll stop reading primordial Hyperborean Aryan gnosis that inspired Himmler and which Schopenhaur praised as the highest wisdom.
>>534117284In essence, "Salvation is from the Jews" is Jesus explaining that God’s saving revelation comes through Israel and reaches its climax in the Jewish Messiah, Him.But true worship is no longer centered on Gerizim or Jerusalem, because Jesus’ coming inaugurates a new covenant reality where worship is defined by relationship to the Father through the Son, by the Spirit, and according to the truth revealed in Christ.This is why the true Jews/Israelites are those who are found in Christ.
>>534118140You’re not white. You’re a brown pajeet
>>534116003why are you teaching these monkeys? Let them be clueless retards. They won't use the information for anything other than as a new attack vector, don't tell them anything
>>534117888Exactly. So salvation is from the Jews for you. Kek. Not through "faith" or whatever you claim. Pretty clear cut. >Salvation===> from JewsGrim
>>534117801Sounds like Buddha does not approve of self mortification including living in filth or drinking latrine water. Had to read the whole chapter. Not really an expressedly don't eat poop. message without the context.
>>534118182>Jesus explaining that God’s saving revelation comes through IsraelThat's just interpolation. Says salvation FROM the Jews. Feel free to show me where he says it's his "perfect" work or whatever nonsense you claim salvation is from..
>>534118250>You’re not white. You’re a brown pajeetI am white and I enjoy being white, but I recognize in Hinduism an ancient Aryan wisdom that is a part of the shared Indo-European heritage that all Indo-Europeans can rightfully enjoy and treasure, and which is more profound than 99% of stuff associated with the entire (((abrahamic))) set of faiths.ready to be extinguished."- Friedrich von Schlegel (1772 – 1829)>"When we read with attention the poetical and philosophical monuments of the East, above all, those of India, which are beginning to spread in Europe, we discover there many a truth, and truths so profound, and which make such a contrast with the meanness of the results at which the European genius has sometimes stopped, that we are constrained to bend the knee before the philosophy of the East, and to see in this cradle of the human race the native land of the highest philosophy."- Victor Cousin (1792 – 1867)>"It is impossible to read the Vedanta, or the many fine compositions in illustration of it, without believing that Pythagoras and Plato derived their sublime theories from the same fountain with the sages of India."- Sir William Jones ( 1746 – 1794)>"I spend my happiest hours in reading Vedantic books. They are to me like the light of the morning, like the pure air of the mountains - so simple, so true, if once understood."- Max Muller (1823 – 1900)
>>534119205>“Even the loftiest philosophy of the Europeans, the idealism of reason, as it is set forth by Greek philosophers, appears in comparison with the abundant light and vigor of Oriental idealism, like a feeble Promethean spark in the full flood of heavenly glory of the noonday sun—faltering and feeble, and ever ready to be extinguished."- Friedrich von Schlegel (1772 – 1829)>"In the morning I bathe my intellect in the stupendous and cosmogonal philosophy of the Bhagavat Geeta, since whose composition years of the gods have elapsed, and in comparison with which our modern world and its literature seem puny and trivial…"- Henry David Thoreau (1817 – 1862)>(The Bhagavad Gita is) "The most beautiful, perhaps the only true philosophical song existing in any known tongue ....perhaps the deepest and loftiest thing the world has to show."- Wilhelm von Humboldt (1767 – 1835)>"I owed a magnificent day to the Bhagavad-gita. It was the first of books; it was as if an empire spoke to us, nothing small or unworthy, but large, serene, consistent, the voice of an old intelligence which in another age and climate had pondered and thus disposed of the same questions which exercise us."- Ralph Waldo Emerson (1803 – 1882)>"In the whole world there is no study so beneficial and so elevating as that of the Upanishads. It has been the solace of my life -- it will be the solace of my death. "- Arthur Schopenhauer (1788 – 1860)
>>534118598you mean you fucking people are even worse some how?
>>534119205You wish you were white. I can tell you aren't. You can lie but you can't hide from me Akshay
>>534119442If I prove Im white can you set me up with a pretty 18 year old skinny 6+feet tall lightskinned Pakistani wife?
>>534115255>memeflag
>>534119568Light skinned are Pathans or Kashmiris aka Muslim. Willing to convert? Otherwise their fathers would laugh you away>6ft tallNice joke
>>534119205Go poo in the street jamboy
>>534115589Buddhism and Christianity aren't compatible because Buddhism would not accept the jew God creating the universe. God would also need to be part of samsara.
>>534119696>willing to convertOnce I hit max earnings and am around 34-38 and if I cannot find any good American wife 8-10 years young than me then I would consider converting if it meant a loyal sexy fit light skinned Paki wife who was a good cook. I'm 6'5" though so I want a tall wife.>Nice jokeThere is almost 300 million people in Pakistan, surely there have to be some taller girls in the cities?>Nice jokeyou mean in a count
>>534119777Is this the power of Hinduism?
WTF I didn’t realize Hinduism was based and aryan
>>534113646all falseretroactively refuted on /lit/ multiple times
>>534120416The crazy ecstatic movements I can apricate. but the dung, piss, and ball beating is just a what the fuck.
>>534121099>all falseall of its true, some may be humorous exaggeration but even that at root is true. Try to dispute any of it and I’ll debunk your ass hylic!>retroactively refuted on /lit/ multiple timesWrong, I am the final boss of /lit/ and have probably retroactively refuted you on there already, I have refuted every single Buddhist on /lit/ before, they are all just pawns in my game.
Oh nice, /pol/ managed to summon Guenonfag.
>>534121774Do you like my latest creation?
>>534109806So they were purposely trained wrong, as a joke?>>534110030>memeflag>anti-ChristianMany such cases. >>534118813What is the context of the phrase from the jews? Jesus is referring to himself anyone can see that.>>534119205>abrahamicYou just proved yourself a pajeet
>>534107614lol
>>534118813>>534122826>salvation is of the jewsThe literal next sentence is>but god hates the jews so he wants new followers.
>>534107614https://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/mn/mn.012.ntbb.html>49. "I would go on all fours to the cow-pens when the cattle had gone out and the cowherd had left them, and I would feed on the dung of the young suckling calves. As long as my own excrement and urine lasted, I fed on my own excrement and urine. Such was my great distortion in feeding.He literally not figuratively would tell them not to eat poop and even tries to relate to them by harking back to the days when he'd have a little poop for a snack sometimes.
>>534107614>buddhism is 500 years olderWouldn’t it be the other way around nigger? Christianity is the west’s version of buddhism? I don’t believe either which way but getting those dates mixed up. Jews are jeets according to your logic, which is an invalid argument that agrees with the truth or close to it
>>534122826>abrahamic>You just proved yourself a pajeetThe jew doesn't like to be named.
>>534107720Look at this fucking disgusting reply chain and try telling me with a straight face this board isn't full of bots. Nobody gives even one single fuck about the inner details of Hinduism on this board.
>>534123217>He literally not figuratively would tell them not to eat poop and even tries to relate to them by harking back to the days when he'd have a little poop for a snack sometimes.Truly a graceful and magnificent teacher to make a personal connection that way.>>534123734>Nobody gives even one single fuck about the inner details of Hinduism on this board.There are some people in this thread who are clueless and just repeating 3rd hand information, but I am personally very well acquainted myself with the inner workings of Hindu philosophy and well-read in their source texts, but I am an anomaly compared to most /pol/ posters.
>>534123465It implies that christians feel themselves grouped together with muslims and jews. Any non Christian is a heretic. Muslims are the only ones that consider christians and jews to be misguided and not outright heretics.
>>534121294The movements are degenerate. True spiritual fulfillment comes in stillness not in motion. It comes in silence not in cacophony.
>>534123465>The talmud is true judism >abraham regularly traveled thousands of miles to meccaYou have a lot to learn >>534124375>not outright hereticsOne of the worst sins in islam is associating partners with Allah. How do you think they view Christians with their trinity?
>>534109784You think it is stupid?Just look on all those zoomies that cope with their receding hairline
>>534126235>How do you think they view Christians with their trinity?Muslims have a trinity?
>>534117230It's originally a British coin term.
>>534107614>Buddhism is the East's version of Christianity. >comparing bhuddism to kike cuckstianity stop spewing retarded nonsense you mongrel jew monkey
>>534124375I don't care how you feel. All three are disgusting jew spawn and largely have the same issues.>>534126235All three recognize the old testament in one way or another. And Islam recognizes Yesha even if it doesn't think he was the son of god.
>>534127752No, I dont care how YOU feel. You can come with us or the fags. Otherwise get fucked lol
