Why are abortions bad again?
>>534120825I aborted 4 girls, until I got a boy.
>>534120825It's sacrificing children to Moloch, Talmudist bro. Christians don't do that, it's evil.
>>534120902chink
>>534120825Depends on the circumstances. If the woman's life is in danger or the fetus can't survive outside the womb, then it's okay. If it's to promote sexist, racist, or ableist eugenics, then it's not okay.
>>534120825>whytoo many peoplebillions must die
Unbaptised children go to Limbo, not Heaven.
>>534121256No pope ever said that. I believe it comes from the Gospel of Aquinas aka "The Summa Theologica" that contradicts the Lord many times e.g. Lord says "come to me as children" and Aquinas offers a five volume set of really bad logic.
>>534120825Hey faggot, news flash.Abortions don’t go to heaven in ANY religion ever.
>>534121444Uh oh melty.Why don’t you prove it then because as far as I see, I see unbaptized childrens.
>>534121444It's an inescapable deduction given baptism is absolute necessary for Salvation per Holy Scripture. The only alternative is saying they go to straight up Hell.
>>534121012christians are a jewish spawn, but even lesser as fundamentally goyim cattle meant to serve. having a kike mutilate your wee wee as branding is on another level though. you're already part of the death cult, just willingly on the bottom of the hierarchy.
>>534120825It depends on what ethnicity it happens to. Like it always did and you subhuman whities deserve to be erased. It's even better you like being killed off hahaha LOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLL
>>534121256aw sweet they get a limboghini?
>>534121256I mean, Benedict XVI (2007) made remarks about Limbo, but he didn't say it existed. It is not the faith. Most Catholic don't know the faith and believe the faith to be things that are not part of it. e.g. the whole Mary thing, three "popes" said it but it was not from the chair of Saint Peter. They just said the Bishops believed it. Immaculate Conception, Assumption, Queen, Sinless... not part of the faith, but your parish priest will not give you communion if you deny it.
>>534121625>God is only capable of doing what I sayNope. You don't understand it and your pride colors your thinking. Just don't worry about it. Trust God. Don't second guess him.
>>534121564Prove what? Why can't you guys just say "I donno but I trust God"? Your faith is weak.
>>534121730what does that have to do with anything>>534121854God told us what He does, Dogmas are straight truths from GodYou can't make up your own headcanon to feel good about things
>>534121652No. Christians are Judean, the Children of Abraham.. Judeans followed the Law of Moses. The synagogue of Satan follows the Babylonian Talmud, a completely different religion. They are the children of Satan. But you're a jew and you're gonna lie, and some who want what you're offering, sin, are gonna believe you because they love sin. Now go ahead and repeat stupid things and kvetch.
>>534120825Because whites get too much and browns still don't get enough of them.
>>534121444>No pope ever said that>we have decided to condemn and try again several propositions, doctrines and sentences taken from the Acts and Decrees of the aforementioned Synod, or expressly taught or ambiguously insinuated, with appropriate notes and censures affixed to each of them, as we condemn and reprove with this constitution of ours to be valid in perpetuity. They are as follows.>[ … ]>The doctrine which rejects as a Pelagian fable that place of Hell (which the faithful commonly call the Limbo of the children) in which the souls of those who die with only their original fault are punished with the penalty of damage, without the penalty of firehttps://archive.org/details/pope-pius-vi-auctorem-fidei-1794/page/n7/mode/1up?q=Baptism
>>534121256>be all loving god>grant your soul an existence>mother kills you in her belly before you even had the chance to exercise free will>you don't even get the CHANCE to go to heaven because god is that spiteful Kek religions are so retarded
>>5341208251st commandment.
>>534120825Its bad for the people doing it not the victims, just like regular murder
>>534121977>>534121977>what does that have to do with anythingYou don't know the catechism.We take as our faith the Bible. Bible says in Matthew 16 divine revelation e.g. that Jesus the Christ is the Son of the One True God, comes from Simon renamed Peter.Peter tells us that Linus will be the next vicar of Christ... thus it is established . So, the Bible, the Popes, and the Church traditions. Church traditions are things like the Tridentine mass of the Roman Rite. It doesn't mean Mary worship (asking Saint Mary for anything more than prayers).Bible, Popes and Tradition. If it isn't in the bible and a pope didn't say it or it's not 400 years old it's not part of the faith. >>534121977>God told us what He does,You don't even know where the faith comes from! And are literally making lies part of the faith. Get one of Pic related. ignore everything from Pope Gregory XVI on, because he sold Chair of Saint Peter to the Synagogue of Satan Bible, True Popes, and Tradition.
>>534120902I keept having girls until i got the boy now i have 8 girls and 1 boy fuck china and fuck iran but fuck israel more
>>534120825>In an afterlife scenario, people who die early spend ~0% of their total existence alive, compared to people who die at max age who spend ~0% of their total existence aliveDamn, kind of makes the suffering of women seem small to look at it that way!
>>534122503The christcuck justification for murder being le bad is that you cut the life of a sinner on a redemption path short, thus potentially robbing him from a path to heaven. From a purely logical perspective, in christcuck theology being murdered with a guaranteed path to heaven is the best thing that can happen to you. Children who get killed after baptised are *literally* considered martyrs
>>534122147>https://archive.org/details/pope-pius-vi-auctorem-fidei-1794/page/n7/mode/1up?q=BaptismNice, but the subject is limbo. And your source says Limbo is a fable and false. Have a nice day. OF THE SORRY OF THOSE WHO DIE WITH ORIGINAL SIN ONLY. Of Baptism, i¢’/ 3.XXVI. The doctrine which rejects as a Pelagian fable that place of Hell (which the faithful commonly call the Limbo of the children) in which the souls of those who die with only their original fault are punished with the penalty of damage, without the penalty of fire;Almost as if those who exclude the punishment of fire were thereby introducing that place and that middle state free of guilt and pain between the Kingdom of God and eternal damnation, as fabled by the Pelagians;FALSE, REVOLUTIONARY, INVIOUS TO CATHOLIC SCHOOLS.
>>534122684Thats not even true but whatever you say rabbi
>>534120825>someone actually went through the trouble of drawing this and probably still pretends to believe in godImpressive. Anyway, god is the only entity capable of creating life. If a baby has been successfully conceived, that is his will, and this life is not ours to take because >>534122303
>>534120825How does "Heaven" work Christcuckbros?Fetuses/infants must be going up there without much individuality. Do they remain this way? How is ordinary "human development" possible in heaven? Do they mature like more-or-less normal humans or do they grow up as 100% angels? Does it put them in a sort of virtual reality so that they can develop like more-or-less normal humans and then when they're old enough it goes like "oh yeah you're dead BTW, soorry aboot that we're gonna need those bodies back too there's a long, loooong queue for them, they've been REALLY busy killing babies down there lately".But the way I imagine it, you pretty much stop "growing" once up there. You're a bit of an abstraction of all that you were while on Earth. Pretty much forever. Like a frozen neural image. Maybe you still "evolve" but slowly. Very slowly. Years feel like seconds. All of a sudden you are "enlighten", you are part of the global heavenly computing matrix, you may provide your perspective on everything at any time. But you are still stuck "being" yourself, experiencing yourself mostly as you were forever. Not trying to make it sound bad, this "Heaven" could be awesome. BUT you may still long for life and its potential, no matter how increasingly distant it might feel.Mostly ideas that come from sci-fi obviously. Still I wonder how much you could make sense of "Heavens" in a somewhat theologically correct manner.
>>534120825This image works if it’s dealing with Islamic theology. In Christianity, all preborns go to hell.
>>534122719You can’t read.They are rejecting the synod of pistoia’s rejection of limbo.Here is a source breaking it down into simple English for you.>In the later eighteenth century, the heretical group known as the Jansenists promoted St. Augustine’s position and rejected the idea of limbo. Responding to the declarations of a Jansenist meeting known as the Synod of Pistoia (1786), Pope Pius VI issued Auctorem Fidei (1794), a condemnation for teaching something “false, rash, and injurious to Catholic education” since they denied that there is a place “which the faithful generally designate by the name of limbo for children.”https://catholiceducation.org/en/culture/whatever-happened-to-limbo.html
>>534120825it’s anti-human jewish evil
>>534120825they were never baptized
>>534120825Pro abortionists always pull out the anti-religion arguments when even religious people use purely science-based arguments against abortion.Abortionists have no response to these arguments so they attack religion instead.Life begins at conception, this is a scientific factWhen you have an abortion you are killing a human being, again, this is a factThe unborn baby/embryo/zygote is NOT part of the woman’s body it its own body. This is a fact.>It cant feel painYes it can, but even if it can’t so what? If I knock you out so that you dont feel pain, is it then ok to kill you?>it isnt consciousNeither are you when you fall asleep.And so on, and so on
>>534125059>when even religious people use purely science-based arguments against abortion.The Christian argument is that the soul enters the body at conception. I've never heard any Christian pro-lifer make a scientific argument. Hell, I've never heard scientific arguments against abortion except from myself.Theists are all the same on this too. Muslims think the soul enters the body after the first trimester or something, so they're okay with abortion until then. Jews don't think a soul ever enters a goyim body so they support abortion for goyim unconditionally. Etc. Souls aren't real so it's a pointless argument but it's the one you hear.
You can just not have sex with everything that moves
>>534122564Imagine having to go through the pain of having your daughter turned into a sex slave by Muhammad not only once but eight times.My condolences Germbro.
>>534120825Are you Russian or a NAFO tranny with VPN? Also, why do you love death, torture and Satan so much?
>>534122209everyone has original sin, that gets washed away by Baptism.Also you're the actual retard, God is omniscient, so He knows those souls wouldn't make it to Heaven to begin with.>>534122519Keep it on topic. Post what your denomination says about the Necessity of Baptism for Salvation.
>>534125059If it has no consciousness, no mind, no memories, no experience, no feelings, no nothing it's no different from a mindless lump of cells and can hardly be considered human so there's nothing wrong with """""killing""""" it even if it's technically """""alive""""". Everything else is emotional manipulation or fairy tale bs like souls and sky daddy. We kill countless of living beings every day from bacteria and viruses in our bodies to fellow humans in wars and prisons just to survive. That's a natural part of life.>If I knock you out so that you dont feel pain, is it then ok to kill you?There's a difference between having your consciousness temporarily paused and never having it at all to begin with so killing a human is not the same as killing a fetus.>>534125517>why do you love death, torture and Satan so muchI don't. If you hate those things don't you think it's better to not bring children into the world that is full of them?
>>534120825They aren't bad. Killing babies is based.
>>534120902Dangerous based
>>534120825Corrupt fuckers started using them to restrict certain races and for human sacrifice.Also left uncapped they promote serial killers.
>>534126545You didn't answer my question, faggot. Are you Russian or satanic NAFO with VPNI am a Christian so no sex before marriage and problem solved without ripping humans apart with zero painkilling in what is supposed to be the safest place, a mother's womb and these humans are sinless. Just pure Satanic horror show that you are advocating. Fuck you ugly moron and servant of Satan.
abortion feralized the parentsafter you acid wash your own babyor pay someone to dismember it aliveyour outlook of civics, ethics and decorum change quite a bit. if that innocent life was not valuable to you, is any of these wailing pornography salespeople really worth anything?
>>534126861I am unfortunately but even if I wasn't what difference would it make? You sound like an unhinged schizo larper.
>>534126545Except even if what you said was true, the fetus will BY NECESSITY become a human, since it's a human IN POTENTIA.If I time traveled to the time you were a fetus it would still be murder.This logic is inescapable.Even the very women choosing to murder their offsprings recognise this.
>>534120825Your pic is wrong. Abortion is bad because they are never born so they don't get to hear the word of God and are for this reason sent to hell by default, like anyone who didn't hear or read the bible.
>>534121256This is made up bullshit. Have you ever read the Bible? The ONLY Christians who believe in "Limbo" are Catholics and we shouldn't bc it's a holdover from corruption within the Church. The Church made up some complete bullshit aka "limbo" so they could get naive believers to pay to get their loved ones - esp children- OUT of limbo.I'm sure you've heard of "selling indulgences," right?
>>534127276says who?the Bible does not teach thatread Roman's chapter 2:12-16>assuming you avoid Paul's letter to the Roman's because it says you ought not be a faggot, and that such a big part of your yoga
>>534127536>The Church made up some complete bullshit aka "limbo" so they could get naive believers to pay to get their loved ones - esp children- OUT of limbo.That never happened. You're confusing Limbo with Purgatory.Limbo is in Hell. Those baby souls will NEVER EVER get out and enjoy Eternal Life.
>>534127075Potentiality is not morally equivalent to actuality. Otherwise jerking off or using condoms would be a genocide.
>>534128049Oh my.First of all, I assume you mean ejaculating in a condom vs in a fertile woman's reproductive place.Yes that is also sinful.However you cannot possibly know it would result in a conception.However, in the case of a live fetus, your non intervention will 100% result in it developing into what you, godless retard, would consider a Human Being.It's exactly like cutting a young sapling vs a full grown tree.
>>534122116Most of the whites getting abortions are dysfunctional fuck ups who probably shouldn't be having children. Abortion is one of those things in life that is unpleasant but the alternative is worse. Abortion bans are highly correlated with increased poverty, crime, addiction, CSA, etc.The US is already totally overrun with this bullshit mostly thanks to feral, oversexed socioeconomic factors and the repugnant white trash who look at black culture with all it's pathologies and their takeaway is that they should imitate it!As much as I want my people to stop letting ourselves be overrun and out -bred I still don't want the worst, most retarded whites filling in the gaps.
>>534126861You actually believe this shit is real, huh?
>>534127803>sounds susit is sin that separates man from Maker.the unborn commit no sin.the original sin from Adam requires that all must die, and from the dominating terror of death (Heidegger's "angst") all sin. But the unborn does not sin. And the Lord Jesus Christ rose from the dead. So ... I don't see a problem.
>>534128324>whites ... who probably shouldn't be having children.>rèddit spacingHitler was right. frik and frak, go back to your pornography loser ... sock you in the goddamn mouth and (you)'ll stay plastered.
>>534127038>I am unfortunatelyWhy? Tell me why nearly all Russians like Putin. Don't give some generic gibberish. Make the arguments they make. If you can't, you are either a fake VPN NAFO faggot or a Jew. >>534128444Yes, and if you don't, you have done enough research and you don't know what you are talking about.
>>534128254>However you cannot possibly know it would result in a conception.>However, in the case of a live fetus, your non intervention will 100% result in it developing into what you, godless retard, would consider a Human Being.And you can't know that it will 100% result in a human being as miscarriages happen all the time. >It's exactly like cutting a young sapling vs a full grown tree.A human with consciousnesses, memories, experiences, etc is like a full grown tree and a fetus with no brain activity, incapable of pain or conscious thought is not even a sapling, it's closer to a seed.
>>534128822>Make the arguments they make.So just generic propaganda talking points?>nearly all Russians like PutinThat's just not true. Even according to the official state media his approval rating's been in a free fall lately.
>>534128638Nice projection.I actually have actual children so I don't have to virtue signal about the IDEA of children who 90% of pro lifers couldn't give less of a fuck about
>>534128826Yea you can, which is why you can't claim it's not murder if you shoot a nigger because he "might have gotten aneurysm and died 5m after the shooting"Retard, stop posting.Most if not all criminal law codes recognise a murder of a pregant lady is worse than a normal lady, as it results in the extinction of two lives vs one.
>>534120825>Why are abortions bad again?They are bad only for human beings, those who know they have an immortal soulThey are not bad for animals, and humans that deny they have an immortal soul.Regardless of whether you think your soul is mortal or immortal, you will find out when you die.
>>534128933Aaand of course the fake Tranny and NAFO faggot had nothing. You are fake as plastic. Disgusting and, on top of that, pro-abortion.
>>534120825Because pastors in Albama say it's bad.
>>534121083I think that women that cannot give birth naturally should just die on labor so evolution would fix it eventually a no weak as women would be reproducing no more
>>534128822>you have done enough*) haven't
>>534128522Original Sin (from Adam) is not the propensity to sin, but a mark on all its descendants, washed away solely by BaptismBy your logic Faith in Jesus Christ is useless as long as you don't sin
>>534129199>Yea you can, which is why you can't claim it's not murder if you shoot a nigger because he "might have gotten aneurysm and died 5m after the shooting"Yeah, because you're killing someone who is already a conscious, developed human, not something that has a potential to be one. What a retarded analogy.>Most if not all criminal law codes recognise a murder of a pregant lady is worse than a normal lady, as it results in the extinction of two lives vs one.That's because the crime against the mother is greater because she might have wanted that child, not because a fetus is an actual conscious human being.
>>534129342Got any more buzzwords, larper? What do you even want from me?
>>5341304551.he could have died just like the fetus in your analogy just the same potentially2.that's not at all the reasoning behind the law, and a child's life in penal terms is not up to a woman's whims. Criminals do not get reduced sentences because the mothers hate their murdered children or whatnot. You also do not get a reduced sentence based on a person not liking their nigger-burnt car or what have you./checking out
>>534120825They weren't baptised so they are all going to hell.
>>534120825if it's ok to abort children, it's ok for men to not support a woman who has a child the man does not wantoh wait...
>>534121256unbaptised children were never ensouled so they go nowhere. god isn’t retarded and doesn’t torture infants that never had a chance to be baptised but he also hasn’t provided a nonsensical “get into heaven free card”
>>534130542Tranny and fake Russian, enjoy, pic related>>534130793>They weren't baptised so they are all going to hell.Said no Christian ever.
>>534131225whoops, i totally fucked up. meant to say aborted children were never ensouled.only children that make it to birth are souled. miscarried and aborted infants aren’t ensouled.can’t be born again if you were never born in the first place.
>>534120825because it’s murder you stupid vodkanigger
>>534130793wouldnt you first need to accept jesus to confirm your baptism as valid though?
>>534131225>souls get dropped at the very moment the fetus exits the vaginal canalok
>>534121256babies go to heaven you fucking degenerate heretickMatthew 19:14 But Jesus said, Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven.Deuteronomy 1:39 Moreover your little ones, which ye said should be a prey, and your children, which in that day had no knowledge between good and evil, they shall go in thither, and unto them will I give it, and they shall possess it.Romans 3:20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
>>534131332in the bible god stresses that you MUST be baptised to be savedyou can’t be baptised if you haven’t been born yet, that makes zero sensetherefore they either go to hell (a part where there is no fire), or if you are reasonable and open to the truth you will understand god didn’t ensoul them to begin with. why would god create a soul that doesn’t ever get the option to satisfy the criteria for salvation?unfortunately most people who think about it deeply start to cope and become universalists whi think there’s no hell
>>534131746actually there are 2 ways. circumcision and baptism. im not exactly sure how it is for women in the old testament but men were required because Adam was the one who was responsible for his wife
>>534130713>1.he could have died just like the fetus in your analogy just the same potentiallyBut the difference is that at the time of the murder he was a conscious human. Unlike a fetus.>2.that's not at all the reasoning behind the law, and a child's life in penal terms is not up to a woman's whims. Criminals do not get reduced sentences because the mothers hate their murdered children or whatnot. You also do not get a reduced sentence based on a person not liking their nigger-burnt car or what have you.The laws don't punish women for having abortions or give fetuses human rights.>>534131332>enjoy, pic relatedAs opposed to being droned or starving to death?
>>534120825Christcucks will seethe at picrel and then unironically be unable to argue against it
>>534131736literally all 3 passages have nothing to do with the topic so idk what to tell you
>>534120825Because only God has the authority to take the life of the unborn.
>>534131595nope.remember that god knows everything that will ever happen from eternity. thus he trivially knows which foetuses will be aborted, miscarried and which will be born.those that will eventually be born are ensouled at the moment of conception. the rest aren’t. it’s conditional ensoulment. i can’t find any church father or other historical theological figure ever considering it. it’s a truthnuke god wasn’t ready to drop yet. but what is the alternative, that god lied when he said you MUST be baptised to enter heaven, or that he sends babies to hell just because?>but wouldn’t that mean abortion isn’t murder?yeah. it’s actually a deeper, more grave sin that cries out to heaven, because it violates the most primal of god’s commandments which is to be fruitful and multiply. it is a direct rejection of the creative will of god, becaus there is NEVER a justification for abortion, whereas there are sometimes attenuating circuimstances for murder like if you catch your wife in bed with another man, etc. abortion can never be a crime of passion by definition so it is always a more evil act and that’s why god destroys any civilisation that condones or supports it.
>>534120825Because it's murder and murder is evil
>>534131924buddy idk how to tell you this but the new covenant supplanted the old one, have you read galatians
>>534121720Dude I’m fucking colorblind, how am I supposed to tell the difference between these two flags
>>534132415im not reading all that but that's literally just your headcanon, nobody ever though that "soul giving" is selective >i can’t find any church father or other historical theological figure ever considering iti wonder why, since selective omniscient action already solves thisIt is unthinkable for a human to be soulless
>>534131746>in the bible god stresses that you MUST be baptised to be savedHe does not. Baptism is very often mentioned together with salvation, but never is it said as a hard condition
>>534132876lol, I am not colorblind but even I struggle and sometimes make mistakes :D
>>534132993Mind you, I am not even reading what I'm copypasting:Mark 16:16 “He who believes and is baptized will be saved; but he who does not believe will be condemned.”John 3:5 “Jesus answered, ‘I tell you the truth, unless a man is born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God.’” (cf. 3:3: “unless a man is born again …”)Acts 2:38-41 “And Peter said to them, ‘Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. For the promise is to you and to your children and to all that are far off, every one whom the Lord our God calls to him.’ And he testified with many other words and exhorted them, saying, ‘Save yourselves from this crooked generation.’ So those who received his word were baptized, and there were added that day about three thousand souls.” (cf. 9:17-18; 1 Corinthians 12:13: both associate the Holy Spirit with baptism)Acts 22:16 “And now why do you wait? Rise and be baptized, and wash away your sins, calling on his name.” (cf. 9:17-18)Romans 6:3-4 “Or don’t you know that all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? We were therefore buried with him through baptism into death in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, we too may live a new life.”1 Corinthians 6:11 “And such were some of you. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God.”Titus 3:5 “He saved us, not because of deeds done by us in righteousness, but in virtue of his own mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewal in the Holy Spirit…”1 Peter 3:21 “Baptism … now saves you …”
>>534132593What about messianic Jews? Remember that Paul was the apostle to the gentiles firstly.
>>534132993john 3 5. actually read the bible>>534132915they are foetuses not ensouled humans. anyway enjoy your limbo or whatever other papal headcanon that is later reversed in demented prelest. you think god lied when he said you MUST be born again or that unborn babies go to hell (even atheists know that is retarded) so the entire thing is a sick joke not worth discussing.
>>534133188I think you're incoherent and possibly need to take your meds
>>534133138>Mark 16:16 “He who believes and is baptizedThis is the normal sequence. Believe and then baptise. However that does NOT mean if NOT baptized you will not go to Heaven, secondly, how can a child believe? Etc etc.
>>534133188>unless a man is born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of GodWater is often used as a s metaphor for the Word of God, I am the Living water etc. It does NOT say baptism, plus baptism is a made-up word and just a transliteration of the original Greek baptizo, which means emerged, like when you colour clothes, etc.
>>534126118>everyone has original sinSo is Sex the original Sin?
>>534120825So what are the logistics behind this? Do they spend their eternity gogo gagaging? Or if they were rapidly mentally aged, how does that work when they never lived on earth? Who were are as people is intrinsically shaped by our decisions and circumstances.
>>534133402He says "unless" you believe AND are baptised.There is no chronological sequence and He is talking to adults.For adults with a fully developed cognitive ability, you need both.For a non sapient kid before the Age of Accountability, Baptism alone suffices.
>>534133402The point is that as a result of their parent’s faith the child can be saved. There are plenty of times where one believers faith had saved others in their family. For instance we were damned to hell because of humanities forefather Adam because the sin carried on to his children.
this feels like something only a woman could draw
>>534126545>If it has no consciousness, no mind, no memories, no experience, no feelings
>>534133724>>534133730Salvation and going to Heaven is no the same thing and more importantly, having these kind of theological debates here is not fruitful. Point is to end the horrors of abortion and wake up the unbelievers. That's wrong focus.
>>534134100>There's a difference between having your consciousness temporarily paused and never having it at all to begin with
>>534134384Can you prove that it has no conscious?
>>534134453consciousness*
>>534120825>pro-death is good
>>534120825They aren't. Pro-lifers need to admit that the only person holding power over given life, are individuals. Specifically women. Because they're the ones who make it. The actual creator of that specific human life, is the only one who has a say. Everybody else needs to mind their own business. Yes, it's unfair. All the potential lives lost. Still, it's none of anyone's, but the pregnant woman's, business.
>>534120825
>>534134453according to neuroscience it doesn't develop until much later in pregnancy
>>534130713Stop equating fetuses to babies. Simple as.
>>534134722may i see that "science"?
>>534134742the difference between a fetus and a baby is as little as one second
>>534134661>>534134742>Stop equating mexican adults to humans.Simple as.
>>534134767https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/39953815/>The foetus also shows some signs of being conscious after about 24 weeks of gestation, although it is mainly asleep in the womb and less aware of its environment. Before that stage, the nerves from the primary somatosensory, visual and auditory areas are not yet connected with the site of consciousness in the cerebral cortex. So a very rudimentary for of consciousness MAY begin to emerge after 24 weeks, but before that it doesn't even have the capacity for it
>>534135188>forform
>>534134876You're being obtuse on purpose. The difference is a 7 month fetus, gets to be born instead of aborted. It's illegal and dangerous for providers to do abortions on such pregnancies. >>Nearly 93% of reported abortions happen before three and a half months of pregnancy, with 40.2% occurring within the first six weeks and 38.4% between seven and nine weeks.The difference is way more than a second. It's 17,539,200 seconds in 29 weeks
>>534134579It is not so much that feminists want to have the right to do it. They want to be free from judgement. A woman cares very much about what others think of her.>>534134722>Uses religion as an argument that abortion is not wrong.>Gives up on that argument and goes to "muh science" Thereby proving they did not even believe their own argument and was trying to use anons' faith against them.Fucking hypocrite.
>>534134920what even is that response?Maybe learn to make arguments like an adult, if you want people to take you seriously.
>>534133387yeah bro i’ll take my meds and you take comfort in knowing god lied according to >>534132915you think god can use selective omniscient action to save aborted infants but not to just not ensoul a vessel which will not make it to birth in the first placemaybe if you spam nigger nigger nigger more you will find peace
>>534135420>>Uses religion as an argument that abortion is not wrong.That's an even better argument though. It's better to not be born at all than to be born and risk going to hell for eternal suffering when you die after potentially also suffering in this world.>b-but you'd go to limbo or whateverDoesn't matter as you won't have a developed conscious as a unborn fetus by then and be no different from being dead/a vegetable.
>>534133569how can the unborn be born again of water and spirithow can the unborn be born again of water and spirithow can the unborn be born again of water and spirit
>>534135639conciousness comes from the soul created by god, not the development of the vessel the soul is in. someone in a coma will not be in a coma in heaven, likewise a very young child will not be vegetative or unawareaborted don’t have souls btw
>>534135378>>>Nearly 93% of reported abortions happen before three and a half months of pregnancycoolwhat about the other 7%also they can still feel pain at that point>>534135188>MAY begin to emerge after 24 weeksso it's ok to kill 1 year old babies if "science" tells us that they have no conscious either?
>>534120825Retarded abrahamic cult faggot, doesnt matter which version you choose. Why would a 3 month aborted fetus have a fully functional brain and comprehend language and reason in heaven? Checkmate and kys.
>>534136129dumb atheist, that’s not even the problem
>>534135760I know this might sound crazy but if God can speak to the retarded and babies even the unborn because he is God. There is a case to be made that even a baby or a retarded person can place their trust in Christ as he can make himself known to them.
>>534135639Then why did you start with religion, then moved onto science? Did you not believe in your original argument? Or are you just using anons Christianity as a gotcha? Wait, I know the answer to that. It is the latter
>>534136318it does sound crazy. tell me in plain english how something which HAS NOT BEEN BORN can be born AGAIN
>>534136000>what about the other 7%why don't you search for it? >also they can still feel pain at that pointThe fetus moving reflexively, doesn't mean that it's experiencing pain. Pain isn't a thing until twenty four weeks.
>>534136408They are born when they are conceived technically you are 9months or less when you exit you mother. God can speak to children or mentally handicapped anytime he wants he’s God.
>>534136437>24 weeks brois that what the gospel of science decreedi must get my next booster, forgive me fauci for i have sinned against herd immunity
>>534120825From the children's perspective is like that indeed. But the mothers are going to hell, we try to save them, but atheistic, jeiwsh society killed them inside.
>>534120825Imagine you were aborted. Is that something you want? If the answer is no then there's your answer. If the answer is yes then you need help.
>>534136555wtfwhat do christians celebrate on christmas day?>god can speak to the mentally handicapped anytime he wantsas he does with you, i see. may god have mercy and help you to overcome your deficiencies
>>534135870What will it even be then without any memories or experience?>so it's ok to kill 1 year old babies if "science" tells us that they have no conscious either?That's a big if as I think it's biologically impossible as even newborns have basic consciousness but it still won't be the same as a 1 yo already has a developed brain unlike a fetus.>>534136384Science and religion don't always contradict each other.>Then why did you start with religion, then moved onto science?He asked for a proof. How would you prove it with religion?>Did you not believe in your original argumentOn the contrary. Because like I said from a religious point of view I think it's better to not have children at all as there is always risk of them going to hell. It's better to not be born at all than risk eternal suffering.
>>534136795What denomination are you anyway?
>>534135188>Foundation Acta Paediatricafirst 2 editors in chiefs are jewishkys inmediately
>>534136437>The fetus wincing in pain doesn't mean that it's experiencing pain. ok nigger
>>534136823>Atheists use science in their attempt to debunk religion all the time.>"Oh they are not contradictory at all."
>>534136717that’s retarded as fuck>feminist athiest whore with 5 abortions: 5 children in heaven ezpz, thanks god>believing god fearing christians with 5 births: maybe 3 make it to heaven and other two fall away, either way they must all struggle and suffer their entire lives to walk the narrow path and not lose their salvation>risking eternal damnation for nothing when they could have just gone to heaveneven atheists who are braindead see how dumb this is
>>534136986by this logic religious scientists wouldn't exist yet they do. what are you supposed to do? close your eyes, turn off your brain and pretend science doesn't exist or is some conspiracy against you?
>>534136888i have no idea what that means anymore and i don’t think it is helpful. denomination wars are really stupid. i read a lot of eastern orthodox authors but there aren’t many options for church here. i was christened anglican but i have never been since i was a child.
>>534136984Reflexive movements are different than feeling pain. You were wrong.
>>534136594How's that a decree? It's a fact. Deal with it.
I think we need death camps for religious people after reading this thread. If you see someone with a cross, you know what to do.
>>534137047Nobody knows the final fate of aborted babies. Nobody. What if a mother finds out she is pregnant but the baby turns out to be an ectopic pregnancy and she calls a priest to her bedside to baptize her unborn in the womb before it is terminated by the doctor? Haven’t thought of that have ya?
>>534120825It doesn't matter if the child is unwanted. It doesn't matter if the child's life will be miserable because their parents didn't plan for it. It doesn't matter if the mother or father has plans that will have to be sacrificed because of an unwanted child. It doesn't matter, it's bad m'kay, because muh... life is divine, god, soul, all that christian bullshit.
>>534137203I am not denying the existence of science. I am referring to how people who make arguments like, such as pro abortion, refute any religious reasons to be against abortion and use science to refute.
>>534137252>uhm yes the baby winces upon being poked with a needle but I ASSURE you I doesn't feel a thing!you ever touched something hot?
>>534137438that's fair, but I also think there are strong religious reasons that are not maybe completely pro abortions but at least against having children
>>534137355which churchss allow you to baptise unborn? i’ve extensively researched the topic. you mean catholic emergency baptism? that’s a conditional baptism according to the will of god; they still don’t claim to know the fate of those subjected to that procedure. and it doesn’t make sense. can’t be born again if you havent be born the first place. why is that so hard to understand? and no you aren’t born when you are conceived silly.
>>534135760Never thought of it like that, I guess they just have to keep rolling a new character until they stop getting spawn-killed
>>534137346we already have a death camp for people like you called hell
>>534120825Make Abortions Great Again!
>>534137723god refuses to ensoul vessels that are going to just be destroyed by freak “doctors”
>>534126118>so He knows those souls wouldn't make it to Heaven to begin with.so why would he even create you if he already knows you'll go to hell? that's just evil
>>534137346>Shill wants to be an edgelord.
>>534120825>pidor flag wondering about abortion while living in a pariah state with a world champ abortion rateyou can't make this shit up kek
>>534120825>It's okay to kill children because they will end up in a better placeBad argument, this is an obvious slide thread.
>>534122564I have bad news for you.It is very, very, very unlikely you would have female and male sperm and produce 8 females in a row then produce a boy.So either you won (lost) the lottery.Or, you were cucked.
>>534137922if the people in hell are there by their own actions which are wholly theirs and they deserve to be in hell, how is it evil?
>>534138552because you had the chance to prevent evilwho created evil btw?
>>534137922By whose standard do you declare an act to be evil? God gives everyone the choice to be saved, He knows whether you will freely choose to accept His offer of salvation or reject His offer of salvation. >"Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour? What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction: And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory"- Romans 9:21-23Explain what makes His choice to give you life an evil act? You choose what you want to do in this live, God's knowledge of your future choices means nothing as He does not reach down and influence you to make the choices that you make. You can be born into a terrible life, make the right choices and come out of that life a better, wiser, person or you can let your terrible life corrupt you and lead you down a path of destruction. You choose, God does not choose for you.
>>534132876Hover your mouse over the flag.
>>534138653he could choose to not create the soul of that evil person if he already knows the outcome
>>534138635evil isn’t a creature, it’s a privation. it doesn’t have form or substance dummy.also why would preventing evil be preferable to just punishing it? you’re being completely arbitrary
>>534138653>You chooseI didn't choose to exist.I don't have a choice whether or not I believe in God he either shows me he exists or I continue life as if he doesn't.
>>534138756why would he do that? you didn’t answer the question>>534138552
>>534138756You could choose not be an evil person too though, right? Your actions are not set in stone before you are born, God's knowledge of your rejection does not force you to reject Him, you choose to reject Him, God simply knows the outcome. You want your actions to be God's fault somehow just like a nigger wants his actions to be the fault of white society.
>>534138817>also why would preventing evil be preferable to just punishing it?so do aborted babies go to heaven anon?
>>534120902this is double funny because some childless foids would give anything to have a child (they never will though)(they will die childless)(lmao)
>>534138869You are demanding something from God that He has no obligation to give you. There are millions of people in the world who have believed what the word of God says, they didn't need a special one of a kind revelation from God, they heard the gospel and believed it.You are prideful, putting yourself above others when you are not greater than any other sinner in God's eyes.
>>534138907did you not read the thread? they are not ensouled in the first place. the case for that is so strong that no one even tried to deboonk it except one dude who said you are born when you are conceived which is nonsenseanyway, why won’t you answer the question? i answered your question. don’t be slimey and tell me why people who are in hell due to their own choices and deserve to be there are somehow being done an injustice by god
>>534137922>so why would he even create you if he already knows you'll go to hell?For the plot.
>>534120825aborted souls don't go to heaven, they weren't baptized so they technically go to a neutral part of hell.
>>534137598>the baby winces upon being poked with a needle but I ASSURE you I doesn't feel a thing!Fetuses aren't babies. Reflexive movements are a thing.
>>534139246no one tell him
>>534139179oh so aborted babies go nowhere? why do you even cry about them then?
>>534139148>You are demanding something from God thatI am not. It's simple I don't choose whether or not to believe in Australia I believe in Australia because there is irrefutable evidence Australia exists. I don't choose whether or not to believe in God because there is no evidence God exists not has he done anything to show me he does exist. I am morally free of the burden of freewill for my beliefs God has no logical right to judge me for not believing in him.
>>534139432there’s nothing to go anywhere. and i outlined that previously. why is god prevented from ensouling the otherwise healthy human vessel in the case of an abortion? generally it’s because of some whore and her “doctor” and often her male partner in crime. do you think god is happy with those people? and that he’s happy with the society that allows them to get away with treating his commandment to be fruitful and multiply like a joke?
>>534139664so you're saying aborted babies are actually saved from a fate of going to hell?that sounds amazing if you ask me
>>534139519special pleading, there are tons of things you believe in that don’t have any scientific evidence behind them like identity over time and selfhoodnext
>>534139758no, because the use of the verb “saved” implies that something tangible has benefited in some way from the action. it’s like saying that all the people who could have theoretically existed if WW2 didn’t happen were “saved” from hell, it’s logically incoherent
>>534123237They go to heaven without sin, in the purest form. I can't say how it looks to be this way in the afterlife, but they'd might be closest to God. Different from, say, a chud or a tranny that sinned more than they know, more than they can admit.
>>534120902
>>534139246>technically go to a neutral part of hellThe Bible is actually pretty vague on the afterlife. All the levels of hell and purgatory stuff is a later medieval invention
>>534139778Dishonesty. Australia and God are separate from my internal experience.
>>534138907>so do aborted babies go to heaven anon?Maybe they get reincarnated indefinitely until they free themselves from attachment and achieve nirvana
>>534139867speaking of WW2according to god would hitler be in heaven or hell?remember he mostly killed white people
>>53412082560 percent of those faces should be black. The only reason I think abortion should be legal, keeps those niggers from having more kids.
>>534140358so you are a solipsist now, an equally unscientific position. scientifically prove to me that your mind exists right now and that you have sufficient justification to believe that your internal experience is consistent over time
>>534140373why would i know what “according to god” is the case? i think he is is in hell but that’s my personal viewpoint. i’m not an epic bacon national socialist so i dont really care
>>534140372The unbaptized go to Limbo, the highest circle of Hell.
>>534120825damn those kids look like they are 5 years old, how late are these abortions going
>>534140834the unbaptised in general? that’s truly astonishing. how many circles of hell are there at this point
>>534120825Liberals will unironically make shit like that but then cry when a murderer who raped and chopped up a child is facing the death penalty.
>>534120825Fake image, aborted children are literally in hell. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limbo#Limbo_of_Infants
>>534120825Lets have an army of robo-wombs dedicated to creating synthetic GMO fetuses purely to be harvested for stem cells
>>534120825We must not abort the babies.
>>534140543>scientifically prove to me that your mind exists right now and that you have sufficient justification to believe that your internal experience is consistent over timeWill you accept scientific empirical standards of proof?
>>534120825Catholics believe that unbaptized babies go to Limbo/Hell. What I find ironic is that they also believe that the good thief next to Jesus, who was never baptized, went to heaven with him in that same day, Jesus absorbed all sins, that is, past, present, and future sins (that babies could commit in the next 3000 aeons/three days), and descended to Hell after his death, saving the unbaptized from Original Sin (including aborted children and those sacrificed to the idols of Canaan in Old Testament).
>>534120825You don't know from where you come nor where you are going. What happened before and what happens next.
>>534120825>aborted kids go to heavenbecause god is good>"But as for you, you meant evil against me; but God meant it for good, in order to bring it about as it is this day, to save many people alive."- Genesis 50:20not because the act of killing a child is good >"“But whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in Me to sin, it would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck, and he were drowned in the depth of the sea."- Matthew 18:6
>>534143457The goal of Christianity is to get to heaven so aborting your baby is just common sense.
>>534120825unbaptised , they dont go to heaven, sorry
Why was the holocaust bad again?
>>534144556That's illegal to say in Germany
>>534144599is it?
>>534123237Human growth and consciousness is the result of the body. Once you shed it you just become one with the universe/god so you don’t need to grow or expand your consciousness because you are part of everything. Your great grandparents, that are dead, do not have their bodies so they will not be old or young. Their consciousness will be so expanded that they know what you’ll do before you do because they no longer experience time which is anchored by mass.
>>534120825>Why are abortions bad again?Cus life is sacred
>>534120825notice its always white kids they want aborted. there's your clue
>>534120825I fully support abortion but as soon as the baby is done being aborted we should shoot the mother.Fair?
>>534121012I was gonna pick something else but I saw this in my meme folder.........holy shit
>>534147643There is a spic and 2 nigger kids.
>>534121012Yeah, good christians like the rabbi jesus sacrifice their souls over an open flame during the passover rituals he oversaw in the bible instead.
>>534120825They murder black babies in the womb
>>534122954>rabbiYou mean like the one you worship?
>>534120825Why can't roasties just admit screaming about "her body her choice"is simply cope about the guilt of murder
>>534137874>the all knowing, all loving(jewish) god would rather just let babies die than do anything about jewsYeah that tracks, considering jews rule over christkikes.
>>534128987The only solution is to give the left what they want, abortion access for blacks, because access is good. Punish the whites and prevent their access to abortion. It only makes democratic sense.
>>534138903>You could choose not be an evil person too though, right? Your actions are not set in stone before you are born,If everyrhing that happens does so according to gods plan, then no your actions indeed ARE set in stone and the "choice" to be evil wasn't a choice you got to make, it was forced upon you as part of gods plan.How disgustingly jewish.
>>534128822Oh jeez, here comes the snuff porn papists who try to get people to have emogasms over fetus hash.
>>534131736Why are infants baptized then?
>>534132171Like the six my wife miscarried.GOOD JOB, GOD! You so loving and great and good and grand!!!!Her nearly dying in the ambulance that sixth time was the special sauce!SIX GOD-ABORTED BABIESYAY AUTHORITY
>>534120825Murder of an innocent.
>>534148938Interesting you blame God instead of yourselves or your choices in everythig that brought you toi that from where you life to when you decided to have children to what you eat and how you life.. It's all about your free will until the consequeces roll in huh?
>>534120825No one is in heaven or hell until the judgementLife is defined as good within Christianity, even in this fallen world. Killing children as a matter of inconvenience is not good.
>>534121256It isn’t medieval times anymore retard and the divine comedy isn’t a book of the Bible
>>534121625You should be ashamed of yourself. The magisterium directly contradicts this and God is infinitely merciful
>>534121012>human sacrifice is evilYou worship a god that sacrificed his human son
>>534149494>it's YOUR fault the jewish god planned for your wife to have 6 miscarriages in a rowWhat a disgustingly, repulsively jewish ideology
>>534150838no anon it's different when a jew does it(the very same jew who oversaw several passover rituals in the bible, no less) because their god(that same jew, according to his own claims) chose jews to rule over the other races after making them mutted abominations.
>>534121012Ezekiel 20:25-2625 So I gave them other statutes that were not good and laws through which they could not live; 26 I defiled them through their gifts—the sacrifice of every firstborn—that I might fill them with horror so they would know that I am the Lord.’nigger there is no moloch/baal, it was always yhwh
>>534121012saving the poor negroid children
Here is a non-christcuck answer.It is fundamentally immoral to foreclose the potentiality of another Being for convenience or from subjective presupposition. There is no>I'm not readyYour readiness has no bearing on whether or not another Being should or should not become aware of itself>Muh socioeconomicsA poor human is still aware that it is a human. It can experience Being. A being whose consciousness is foreclosed ceases to remember, experience or anticipate anything; less than that, all past, present and future actualities are nullified completely.>I was RAPED!The circumstances or emotions a woman experiences do not give her commission to foreclose the existence of another Being who can experience, even at a basal level, and who will experience at a human level.This is why the death penalty should exist, by the way. Because the revocation of all potential and foreclosing a Being's consciousness, awareness, and rendering that being unable to even be aware that it is no longer aware, to erase it's ability to remember, experience, or anticipate future experiences is the ultimate punishment for the most reprehensible crimes, it is so serious.To quote"No one has divine commission to pollute the streams with sawdust, destroy the forests with axe and fire, or kill every living thing within reach of rifle, trap or poison bait. The mere fact that man has the power to destroy does not, in and of itself, confer a right"The fact that we have the power to determine which being will remain aware of it's own existence does not, in and of itself, confer a right to judge; according to our own limited ability and according to our own subjective biases, what is right, just or moral. A being must be allowed to persist unless it forfeits its entitlement to remember, experience, or anticipate future experiences. Unless you are a murderer, rapist, traitor to the Nation, or drug dealer or enemy combatant in war then no one has any right to nullify your existence
>>534150838>Jesus>helpless child in the womb murdered for convenience. >>534150859>miscarriage is the same as abortionWhy doesn't the pro-abortion people understand words? >>534152386>jews sacrifice kids to other gods like moloch>how could God do this?
>>534120825Really makes you think.
50% of a woman's fertilized eggs fail to implant translating to 40% to 60% of her fertilized eggs being naturally flushed out with her period blood - so God is aborting those "babies" ?
>>534153887>why doesn't the boogeyman fit the strawman I made up in my mindWhy are christkikes like this?go back and read the post I quoted, it was one of your shitskin jew worshipping brothers who equated them you stupid illiterate fucking nigger.
>>534120825Patrick that's Pelagianist heresy.>>534122096>>534121854>>534121256It's truly amazing how only in America Christianity reaches its final form through American narcissism where the entire canon of the religion and centuries of theological debates can be ignored just because the person feels like it. American Christians don't even worship Jesus but themselves, as they believe they can just 'believe' with no strings attached and that said belief gives them the authority to give any dictats they want to other people and makes them somehow a better person than anyone else.
>>534154551>spergs out when told to understand wordsDon't they teach you jeets anything in leaf land?
>>534131595Fun fact, Islam solves this problem by making it so the soul enters the fetus at roughly iirc 4 months after conception.
>>534120825I don't have a problem with abortion. Abortion is a reality of nature, animals of all kinds do it.The difference is that when animals do it, they respond appropriately: with shame, fear and genuine pain. Animals don't pretend like abortion is some cute fun thing to do when you're feeling sporty. They get traumatized by that shit and they feel it for years to come.If modern women were capable of the same level of empathy and motherly emotion that animals were, there wouldn't be any 'pro-abortion' movements.
>>534127075Abortion is nasty business, but necessary for social functioning. I don't care much for slave moralist complaints over it.
>>534153960So you admit human administered abortion is playing G-d. No human has the right to kill unborn babies since no human is G-d. The exception is when the fetus poses a risk to the Mother's life since it says in the bible that if a man kills an unborn baby he has to pay a fine to the Father but if he kills the Mother the punishment is death. That proves that abortion is only okay in cases where the fetus threatens the Mother's life. All other abortion is playing G-d and evil.
>>534150859The fact that porn is the biggest word always cracks me up with this obvious projection.
>>534148938Sounds like she wasn't meant to breed.
>>534122116>despite being 13% of the population...Kek
>>534120825Because earth is good.
>>534120902Great Khanpilled
>>534155608>can't argue with what I said>copes about boogeymenThis you, lil bro?
>>534155878>projectionYou mean like you just did?https://answersingenesis.org/christianity/christians-admit-to-viewing-pornography-over-half-are-okay-with-it/Christkikes are completely and utterly incapable of honesty and arguing in good faith, because they get their spiritual framework from a jewish rabbi who diddled kids and hated non-jews.
>>534158263>>534155878>https://mensgroup.ca/blog/f/15-mind-blowing-statistics-about-pornography-and-the-churchOhnonononononono christers it just keeps getting worse LMAO>68% of church going men and over 50% of pastors view porn on a regular basis. Of young Christian adults 18-24 years old, 76% actively search for porn.>Only 13% of self identified Christian women say they never watch porn – 87% of Christian women have watched pornAHHHAHAHAAAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHA holy shit christkikes just can't stop themselves from lying like it's another day ending in y.
>>534120825reduces resource loss because of bad decision, much prefer the mother or father murder the infant; more natural that way.
>>534121012/Thread
>>534159432Yeah, good christians like jesus sacrifice their souls over a fire during passover (to himself, the self proclaimed god of the jews)instead lmao
>>534121083>If it's to promote sexist, racist, or ableist eugenics, then it's okay.FTFY
>>534120825Murder is bad. If we are just going to arbitrarily murder babies then what is stopping the valve gates from opening of killing men women and children for any reason?
>>534120825Because it teaches stupid people that they can do irresponsible things and face no consequences.
>I wish everyone could be abortedSo effortlessly, the abortionist reveals his true intent: extinction of humanity.
>>534121625Not true. Baptism is not a requirement for salvation. Do you know the singular instance in the bible where a non baptized person entered into the gates of heaven? The person on the cross next to Jesus.
>>534120825>psychopathic child murder tries to justify murdering children for their sexual pleasureDon't have sex if you don't want to bring kids into the worldThe answer isn't the murder them just because you fucked up, you sick demented jewish fuck
>>534159500Can you explain your incoherent rambling? Are you trying to say that christians practice human sacrifice. Can you show me in scripture or from a christian holiday in which this is the case?
>>534121256That shit is entirely made up lmao.
>>534121920/thread(also pride is a sin)
>>534161380>incoherent ramblingAh yes the christkike plays dumb. The bible openly admits jesus was a jew who practiced jewish rites and rituals, and ministered at multiple passover rites. Thr minister/rabbi who oversees the passover ritual is even the one who passes the infants through the flames, so jesus literally sacrificed multiple infants to himself. In case you really don't knkw your biblical lore, passover is the jewish holiday/rite where they pass an infant over an open flame at a jewish temple to offer their soul to the jewish god.>are you trying to say christians perform human sacrifice? In multiple ways, they do.>consumption of communion wine and communion wafers is a spuritually cannibalistic ritual>they transfer their sins to jesus VIA his death-sacrifice upon the cross>the person on the cross next to jesusThe two men crucified on either side of jesus were two of the human trafficking pirates(lystros) that provided jesus little boys. christkikes LOVE lying and pretending their bible doesn't tacitly admit this kind of shit.
>>534161233>Do you know the singular instance in the bible where a non baptized person entered into the gates of heaven? The person on the cross next to Jesus.Yeah that tracks that your jewish god would save the souls of jewish child traffickers.
>stupid people abort their stupid kidsand why do you want more stupid people in the world? oh right, stupid people are easier to manipulate, smart people are a bad business model
>>534121652Christians were told circumcision doesn't matter by Paul, the apostle everyone calls a turbo jew.
>>534161819Stupid people worship a jewish rabbi who hated non-jews and openly stated multiple times in the bible that his salvation/covenant comes from the jews, and is only for the children of israel(jews)
>>534150921Im not gonna argue with a poop flinging Indian about my superior faith.
>>534161692So zero human sacrifice and now drinking wine and eating wafers are now considered human sacrifice. Gotcha.
>>534161926>can't argue with the truth>copes about a strawman that was (((real in his mind)))You worship a dead jew, and you're spiritually jewish.
>>534162017>christkike can't/won't readI accept your consession of defeat, you jew worshipping shitskin mongrel. >tries to ignore the contextNigger the communion wine and wafers are a representation of consuming the flesh and blood of jesus lmao. Fucking christkikes man, they really do argue and lie like jews.
>>534120825They're going straight to hell to nourish moloch, sorry.
>>534120825>picMade by atheist
>>534120825They're not. It's christcuck culture war shit.
>>534120825Do atheists really believe this?
>>534121012fake news
>>534120825It's not if it's brown or chineseThank you for your attention to this matter
>>534120825Feminist are deranged and demonic.
>>534153887Mate, that Ezekiel passage is YHWH himself speaking and admitting he told the Israelites to sacrifice their firstborn childrenIf jews are sacrificing children it's because they're doing it for YHWHthe Moloch/Baal thing is an Esau gambit psyop to lump jews into bad jew/good jew categories to ensure we don't wipe them all outExodus 2229 Thou shalt not delay to offer the first of thy ripe fruits, and of thy liquors: the firstborn of thy sons shalt thou give unto me.30 Likewise shalt thou do with thine oxen, and with thy sheep: seven days it shall be with his dam; on the eighth day thou shalt give it me.There's the unedited human sacrifice mitzvah. I await your cope.
I don’t know final answer
>>534140261>vague Lol. Lmao.
>>534120825Acoording to the old Catholic doctrine, stillborn children were going to Sheol (Limbo) - jewish hell.So spawning kids only to send them to the hell isn't very good, Ruskianon>>534120902GOOD MORNING SAAR!
>>534122096Lying kike
>>534120825>the meaning of existence is to avoid all form of suffering entirely, as well as everything else that existence offers>instead of living and learning from itWe should just shoot liberals in the head, since it aligns with their ethos
>>534120825Actually a good OP by Russian flag.
>>534147783Kek nice webm really gets the juices flowing. saved
>>534170012>first in line
