Why do the people running the world not understand Tolkien
It would be hilarious seeing Tolkien call Peter Thiel an enormous faggot
>>534136039i like palmer lucky. die mad.
>>534136039Because these money worshipping psychopathic ghouls lack any rational thinking.They just like the cool badass thing, even when it's an obvious warning or the villain.
>>534136039>people that make necessary and needed weapons, vehicles & supplies>"Well that doesn't make them sound nearly as reprehensible as my narrative requires... Oh, I know! Instead, they're 'war-profiteers'!..."Sometimes you can literally just SEE the little gears in a propagandist's head turning.
>>534136043Palantir is necessary how, exactly?
>>534136043>You don't understand. We HAVE TO let israel rule the world and spy on everyone!
LEAVE THE HECKIN INNOCENT WONDERUFL APOCALYPTIC ISLAMIC DEATH-ZEALOTS ALONE! THEY ARE THE HECKIN SHIRE! CHINA HAS A CITY WITH A LOT OF NEATO LIGHTS ON THE BUILDINGS! CHINA IS HECKERY DECKERIN RIVENDALE!
>>534136044I don't know but if palantir goes away then the woke wins o algo
>>534136044Goyim are stupid and can't rule themselves. They need to be controlled for their own good.
>>534136046Not a single mention of China or muslims in this thread until your post so take your meds. Also how does indiscriminate surveillance of American citizens stop the Chinese?
>>534136049Midwit.
>>534136046Yeah? Why wouldn't we leave the apocalyptic islamic death zealots alone?
>>534136039I've stayed completely ignorant on Palantir even today. Seeing how much free seethe it generates while literally nothing is done about it makes me kind of like it, whatever it is. Anything that can come out of nowhere in the past few years and just completely cuck everyone by pissing them off so much yet all they can do is bitch and moan about it, must be pretty cool.
>>534136047Reminder that their CEO is a mutt who donated to Hilldawg and brags about kneecapping any real right wing movements in Europe.
>>534136039listening to Peter Thiel rambling about the anti-christ and citing LotR alongside the Bible for his sources is wild
>>534136043it's necessary and needed because they demand war to justify it all
>The dead when literally anything happens
>>534136056Bodied those christcuck freaks
>>534136039>Tolkien if he knew they put niggers in the tv show
>>534136052>all they can do is bitch and moan about itFor now. The arrogance and an illusion of omnipotence of the elite is often their undoing, historically. The more they centralize decision making the worse it will get for them as they grow more delusional.
>>534136056The dead don't see black. The dead see what you see when you have a dreamless night of sleep (nothing)
>>534136060the dead see blacked
>>534136054>Peter Thiel rambling about the anti-christ and citing LotR alongside the Bible for his sourcesDid he really do this unironically when he is the definition of the Antichrist according to Tolkien?
>>534136054People forget that Thiel has regular blood transfusions from young people because he believes it will slow down or reverse aging. The man is a vampiric sodomite freak.
>>534136062He believes that the Antichrist will use fear of technological progress (such as AI) to create a one-world, centralized government, ultimately slowing down or stopping technological advancements.Which is funny when Tolkien never hated technology he only hated the misuse of it. The FEAR of misuse isn’t the fear of the thing itself. Thiel doesn’t want progression to incorporate nature or beauty or anything like that. The elves are the polar opposite of Mordor. Their industry is woven into nature, not through it.
>>534136059>TWO MORE WEEKS
Elven technology: “this deep freezer still works after a hundred years, amazing…” Orc technology: “this freezer will break in a year or two; don’t forget to come buy our brand new redundant one a year from now!”My grandpa’s fridge still works after fifty years while the ones you buy now break in like six months. The future is Mordor.
>>534136039Do you think that scumbag wasn't pro-war?>>534136043Murder is not necessary
>>534136063No wonder he and Sam Hyde see eye to eye on so much.
>>534136059Nothing will ever happen. There's no "revolution" coming, dumbass.>he thinks Luigi and others aren't controlled oppLMAO
>>534136044It’s basically Skynet. Been evolving for years as parts and technology adapt. It started out as a file sharing/logistics/spss threat analysis thing and keeps getting tied further and further tighter. So a region will have a threat profile pop up in 4 months and Palantir will start creating plans and shifting things around. The pentagon runs on paper work more or less. It’s nothing magical or true ai. Like you can write programs to control temperature and predict when you need your do what, imagine a more complex program being added to and upgraded for 2 decades
>>534136067>being pro war is badAre you retarded? Sometimes you have to kill, or let die, a hundred to save a thousand. Inaction is worse than action at times. Sorry to have to tell you this. Being a wartime leader is indistinguishable from being a psychopath. In order to save your people from worse fates you have to do awful things yourself.
>>534136048This but unironically Social medias been around for only a couple decades and everyone is now either a gay transexual or a psychopath that lights people on fire.
>>534136057I don't mock Christians specifically. Just the notion that the dead give a shit about what the living do. I have no idea what being dead is like but if it's like anything at all then I doubt it's like this. I do believe Jesus of Nazareth was a very good person who taught a good message about mercy and forgiveness and spoke in metaphors and parables because that's what the people he was talking to understood. Maybe he was even the son of god but if he was then I have no idea what that means nor what god really is so it's not really anything I can base my life on even if I wanted to. There are enough real observable reasons to try and cooperate with others. We don't need to bring the vast unseen and unknown into the equation. If there's anything after death then we'll find out then but until then it's irrelevant.
Tolkien saw magic and machines as one and the same. There are good ways and bad ways about it. Palantirs were originally made with good in mind. But they were hijacked. Not very different from what’s happening now.
Evil can never create, only corrupt o algo
>>534136071>let me tell you why going across the ocean to murder kids is good actuallyYou're a fucking insane person
>>534136072Slave theory as proposed by the Greeks is true. Some cannot think for themselves. Or it ends in disaster if they do. They don’t own their own thoughts. What’s sad is that it’s mostly white people who are capable of critical, independent thought. Everyone else is running on a hive mind mentality. The vast majority of China and India have embraced AI. Their collective IQ is about to plummet from an overload of offloading cognitive tasks. Nice.Meanwhile the West is a lot more cautious about AI.
>>534136076So you’d rather let them murder even more of our kids five years from now. Got it.The inability to think ahead is associated with a low IQ btw. You clearly don’t have it.
>>534136076War is part of human nature. Like sex.
>>534136076Just say you hate kinetic energy and the ability to defend yourself
>>534136077>Slave theory as proposed by the Greeks is true. Some cannot think for themselves. Or it ends in disaster if they do. They don’t own their own thoughtsSo how do I enslave a cute girl?
>>534136063la creatura...
Did Tolkien actually see technology as a bad thing? So Thiel was right about the elves being anti science freaks?
>>534136083No you fucking idiot. Both the elves and Mordor make use the same shit they just do it in different ways. The elves are just a lot nicer and beautiful and skillful that people see what they do as “magic”, and it’s because of this that idiots think elves are anti technology WHEN THEY ARE NOT. Their industry is just so beautiful or fantastical that you see it as art more than machine. But artifice has art in its name. Christ. You cannot separate art from science and technology.
>>534136083Well. No. Since the elves made the Palantiri that Thiel seems to equate to Sauron even though he was merely the one to hijack them. The elves made the rings. Sauron was a sponsor for them.
>>534136083He saw war as a bad thing yes.
>>534136039Shit writer. Plagiarised and ruined English folklore.
>>534136064>sodomite billionaire: the antichrist is whoever stops me getting rich implementing the beast systemnow if that doesn't get the noggin joggin
>>534136046you mean the apocalyptic death zealots who just want to be left alone without constant cia and british interference to steal their oil? iran wouldnt give a fuck about the west if we didnt constantly try to fuck them in the ass
>>534136048works pretty well here in norway, i'd say.
>>534136068She's not gonna fuck you
>>534136052>feigning ignorance for the sake of lazy contrarianismclassic 4chan newfag behaviour
>>534136089>This cope againYes I'm sure the zealots who's stated goal in their holy texts is to kill all infadels just want to live in peace with everyone. You lefties are fucking retarded
>>534136091seething
>>534136092Thanks for proving my point. I know literally nothing about it but me mentioning it is enough to send you into a quivering seethe. Precisely why I like it.
>>534136058>‘As for what you say or hint of 'local' conditions: I knew of them. I don't think they have much changed (even for the worse). I used to hear them discussed by my mother; and have ever since taken a special interest in that part of the world. The treatment of colour nearly always horrifies anyone going out from Britain, & not only in South Africa.’omg hes not an epic basedjak from /pol/ like me?!?!?!?!
>>534136094>SOMEONE RESPONDEDED>QUICK, MY REACTION IMAGE FOLDER (6.3TB)>HOLD ON... HOLD ON...>THERE IT IS!!!
>>534136093>doesnt know the guy in my picturelmao embarassing, but do go on.
>>534136097Imagine being a Thiel/Hyde cuck. lol, lmao even.
>your entire existence is worshipping niggers, immigrants, and trannies Tolkien would beg Palmer Luckey to have you drone striked, and he would be right to do so
>>534136099Imagine devoting hours of your life every single day seething about a never-was who doesn't even know you exist. lol, lmao even.
>>534136101damn you're mad
>>534136092and yet, he will be happier than you now and in the future, regardless of what happensniggers
>>534136102>n-n-n-no you!!! YOU'RE MAD!!! NOT ME!Pathetic
>>534136042People like you are the actual villain for standing in the way of progress. And you never win. You can't un-invent something no matter how much you try. >>534136048>if I call basic governance and social hierarchy jewish I can weasel my way out of being wrongFortunately, your life is under countless restrictions and controls imposed by people far better than you. lol>>534136063>if I make up weird scary rumours, I can convince others to have my betters too!Luckily most people aren't as dumb as you're.
>220161400It's time to take a break from posting, Pete.
>>534136041>love sucking jew dick unironicallyYour dad should've strangled you in the cradle.
Woooow
Thiel says he’s read Lord of the Rings ten times throughout his life. An oddly specific number.I am skeptical of his claim since he is everything that Tolkien hated. He named his company after the thing that was meant to be a lesson in what not to do.
>>534136042The palantiri weren't evil or corrupt objects originally but giving one to a Sauron made it bad for others. Kinda like AI tech.
>>534136105>People like you are the actual villain for standing in the way of progressHow? Do you think the elves are anti technology or something? They aren’t. They simply make art and technology without any human blemish. They are a lot more independent and don’t outsource their skills and artistic talents to machinery like humans and orcs and dwarves do. They quite literally pour themselves - heart and soul - into their own works. The 21st century under the elves would look a lot differently. Utopic by utopic standards. >You can't un-invent something no matter how much you try. Correct. It’s out of the box. The future is peak soulessness. To compete with this soulessness we must become as soulless as the rest.
>>534136303Maybe he reads it thinking:Sure Sauron had his network of spies but if only he had satellites, the Internet and an all pervasive surveillance network. Maybe then the good guys, the side of industrial and technological progress could've won.Hail Sauron! Hail Morgoth!
>>534136472Tolkien made it apparent that artifice can be used for good or for evil. But for some reason the elves are le anti progression.Morons have hijacked Tolkien’s message.
Oh we got moved to pol, sweet now I can say nigger. NIGGER!!!
>>534136688The elves demonstrate restraint when accessing magic (technology). As anyone with wisdom would. Its the same reason neither side used poison gas in ww2. Palantirs are psychic network portals. The clear lesson is that one diseased mind will infest/corrupt the rest when their evil vision is given sanctuary.>Do not make peace with evil. Destroy it.
If you told Peter Thiel any of this he would not believe you either. He absolutely thinks he know better than Tolkien. Just like the fucks at Amazon. Bezos is no different. They claim they’re fans but they’re liars. It’s also funny how gay people are leading the charge into a dark age of technology. Sam Altman met his husband in Peter Thiel’s hot tub.As a gay man I find this disgusting, but also kind of sad (Sam Altman is for his part just a naive Jew boy who thinks art is something that can become “democratized”). Thiel is something else.
>>534136472Everything produced by the Noldorin elves ended up causing more trouble than it was worth, palantiri included. Anything, like a palantir, that enables things to be seen more clearly is bound to illustrate Morgoth's marring of Arda.
And I’m not saying Altman isn’t an ass eating faggot either. God he’s such a faggot. Creativity isn't being “democratized” when it's being industrialized and turned into a product. Fuck.Literally a dystopia novel premise where a big corpo sells the ability to be creative and the general populace can no longer create without it.We’re becoming bugs. Chinese. They’re already worshiping AI like the Indians. It is going to collectively drop their IQs due to an overloading of offloading cognitive tasks and critical thinking skills to AI and machinery. We already have proof of this in the form of the competency cross and the drastic reduction of IQs in the current generations of youths.
>>534137099competency crisis*Pic related
Right, because Tolkien just hated war and Jews
>>534137319Tolkien did hate war. He loved Jews.Which is funny, given how many wars they cause.
>>534137319He actually liked the Jews. He based the dwarves on them.
>Tolkien knew well the tension of technology and the threat of the machine. Tolkien explains the use of magic in his mythos and how it relates to machinery. Tolkien had thought through, with great clarity, the difference between the magic of the elves and that of Mordor.>He observes that the hobbits do not understand the difference between the magic powers exercised by the elves and that of Sauron: “the Elven queen Galadriel is obliged to remonstrate with the Hobbits on their confused use of the word [magic] both for the devices and operations of the Enemy and for those of the Elves.” Tolkien says the lack of a proper word (other than “magic”) for the work of the elves portrays the same confusion in our own minds and mythologies.>He goes on to explain the difference: “Their [the elves’] ‘magic’ is Art, delivered from many of its human limitations: more effortless, more quick, more complete (product, and vision in unflawed correspondence). And its object is Art not Power, sub-creation not domination and tyrannous re-forming of Creation.”>Tolkien elucidates the dilemmas we face as technology snowballs and threatens to blow up in our face. Put simply, the magic of Mordor is the machinery of murder. It is the pursuit of power for its own sake, and perceives the natural world merely as a raw material to be exploited, distorted, and destroyed. In the films, we see this in full display as the wizard Saruman destroys Fangorn—chewing up the forest to fuel his machines of war. The realms of the Elves, in contrast, at Rivendell and Lothlorien, are havens of harmony, beauty, and peace created by elven magic.>The distinction elucidates our own continued, confused, modern relationship to technology. Do we use our increasingly sophisticated gadgetry and expanding knowledge in an elvish, creative, and artful way to bring light, beauty, and truth to the world, or do we use technology to manipulate, make money, and thus gain more power in the world?
>>534137188i want to thank the boomers, israel and moloch for making the human race more retarded. thanks!
I believe evil is an immortal living thing created by the same thing that created everything else. It's manifestations are but heads of the Hydra, servants of Morgoth. Sauron was just orange man bad till he started fucking elves and became a formless dark spirit. Then they spent another fucking thousand years dicking around with dragons and man-witch faggots, sniffing their own butts with satisfaction at how magical and majestic they thought they were. Then came the genocides and omnipresent Chinese malware and mind control. Then came the armies of the disenfranchised mud people and monsters. Guess who was infected with the malfeasance and cooking itself from the inside? The first line of defenses. Then the smart guys that let all this shit happen get it together enough to run cover while a couple of literal nobodies do most of the work and curse themselves while the wizards laugh at the mysterious ways in which the gods work. TLDR smart important people act like faggots and almost get everyone killed but good still exists and is itself more powerful than evilI love Tolkien. I love him for everything he was. He knew how people are. Sam is the best character
>>534137494The Jews cause wars because they’re sincerely misguided and have the same awful urge shared by white folk to apologize to the rest of the world for things they didn’t do. They sincerely think everyone is capable of being just as capable as they are. Jews and white people are way too nice to brown skins. And I’m not saying there aren’t sinister Jews out there. There absolutely are. I’m just saying that a chunk of it is sourced to stupidity rather than some sinister agenda. Liberalism is a disease and it causes you to want to hate and destroy your nation. The Jew isn’t unique here. They are just frustratingly potent and influential wherever they go. This is both a bad and a good thing.What’s sad is that lefty Jews silence their conservative brethren the same way white folk silence their fellow whites for being concerned about demographics. There are traitors amongst whites and Jews. 3.5/5 of all Jews are compromised as far as I’m concerned. They truly thought they could rule over a brown skinned race or barbarians who have historically hated their guts. Fucking incredible how they thought this wouldn’t backfire on them.
>>534137494>>534137501In fairness, they've always been good at manipulating public opinion and playing the victim. He fell for the facade as did most people at the time who weren't German.
>>534136972Not exactly. While the rings caused a great deal of suffering, they enabled the men and hobbits to ultimately defeat the last strain of evil left in the Middle-Earth. Had Pippin not used the Palantir, Sauron would not have diverted most of his troops on an assault on Minas Tirith, and thus Frodo and Sam would not have been able to sneak into Mordor. Even the Silmarils, while the root cause of many tragedies they also led the Noldor teaching the early houses of men the many skills and deeds and ultimately drove the rest of the Vala to finally put an end to Melkor's reign, something they might have had not done without the plead of the elves and men.The noldor caused lot of bad things but also a lot of good things. They were the catalyst for many great deeds to ultimately prove the power of Eru over Melkor.
Anyway. Jewish civil war is going to happen sooner or later. All the Jews who supported immigration and rising levels of antisemitism will be ousted by the Jews that actually love the West and want to see it survive. “Wait. You WANT to poison our greatest host nation to date??”. Parasites can be stupid too.
>>534137820>They truly thought they could rule over a brown skinned race or barbarians who have historically hated their guts. Fucking incredible how they thought this wouldn’t backfire on them.Leftists should be allowed to experiment with their own utopian ideas, far away from normal people. They can live around all the third worlders they want and try giving them 65% of their incomes, all that retarded shit, and let them live with it. We won't get to see that unfortunately.
The deeper subtext of Tolkien is that good always wins and anything corrupted somehow inevitably ends up being used for good. Gollum is the best example of this. Gandalf's dialogue with Frodo in the first book foreshadows this.
>>534138152Jews and Liberalism taken together is more or less a form of mad science. The golem makers. Frankenstein’s monster.
