This kills China.
>>534138665I hope we move past lithium or discover a new and better process to recycle lithium from older batteries.
>>534138665The lithium would be down in one of the large valleys, not actually up in the mountains. Lithium settled out from seawater long ago into these large valleys.
>>534138665It takes 29 years to build and open a rare earth mine in the US. China isn't worried.
>>534138665Lithium doesn't "supply power" to anything, you fucking redditor.
>>534138665but sodium-ion is the future
I got black bagged with a gassed lithium bad more than once and same with my CIA girlfriend. She slipped the cuffs 3 times and I thought that was hot as fuckI made 7 babies with that one, best pole dancer I ever known.~Klover15
>>534138665They have to actually build the batteries now
>>534138809
>>534138665I can still remember that years ago a lithium mother load was found in Alaska.and nothing has been done with that, as this is going to be
imagine getting zoomers to work in a lithium mine it's literally infinite immigration or bust lol
>>534139383at least they wouldn't feel depressed
>>534138665Lithium deposits are everywhere, and Rare Earth elements are not rare.The limitation is how much ecological destruction you're willing to inflict on your country, to dig it out and refine it. China wins there.
>>534139420They won't feel anything
>>534139366Yep. There's lodes everywhere. Nothing ever happens though.
>>534138665Geographic Distribution: The deposits are concentrated in two primary areas:Southern Appalachians: Approximately 1.43 million metric tons of lithium oxide, primarily located in the Carolinas.Northern Appalachians: Roughly 900,000 metric tons found in Maine and New Hampshire.
>>534139383Machines
>>534138952Shut up stupid
We're still due to find large deposits of oil and uranium in Oregon. They probably found these a long time ago and have been strategically waiting to rape the entire land for them instead of just doing it all at once. America is going to be a desert by two days from now and you're all going to become incredibly dry and bothered by it.
>>534138665OLE WV GONNA MAKE A COMEBACK BABY!FIRE UP THE GHOST TOWNS
>>534138665you'll extract that lithiium right after fixing your bridges and railways.
>>534139300sodium ion is like what, 15-25% better than the other shit? we need something 250% better
>I know how we can stop the datacenter bubble from popping for a few more years, just destroy all your fucking natureLet me guess, this is on the fast track with unanimous approval from all sides in congress.
>>534138665The trick is to use everyone elses resources while paying them with money that isn't worth anything.
>>534138809This. It's shit. Can we just build nuclear and just have unlimited energy? Or is that anti-Semitic?
>>534139887
>>534139630lol and that is in a literal sand hole and a and nature area
>>534138665No it won’t, you think those white meth heads will work those mines?They’ll just tr00n out and complain about liberal rights while US mass imports insectoids, niggers and jeets as slave labour aka DEI to work them.
>>534138665Too bad the country is full of finance brained retards who do everything in their power to not let America be industrial and to deregulate this process
>>534138665Lithium is fucking everywhere. Problem is processing it into usable stuff for cheap, which is what China has almost monopoly on.
>>534138665Lithium is dirty and unprofitable to extract - that shit will just sit there.
>>534138665and prices will for some reason still go up, just like our gas prices, even though America produces the most oil now
>>534139975Why was this made to be such a big deal? All our submarines amd carriers are powered by small reactors. Transporting one a plane is nothing.
>>534138665>65>65 Billion lithium mother lode hidden beneath Appalachian MountainsDid you faggots forget we already knew this two years ago after the corrupt Biden regime used weather modification to steer a hurricane up into the Carolinas that absolutely decimated the entire region and somehow immediately some entity started buying property and "announced" there was lithium there?
>>534138866https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/How-Chinas-Rare-Earth-Ban-Backfired-into-a-US-Tech-Breakthrough.html
>>534140056>which is what China has almost monopoly onPretty sure Chile produces the most lithium in the world.Chile, China probably same thing to Americans though.
>>534140252>Pretty sure Chile produces the most lithium in the world.And where does it go for processing?
>>534140108Those "small" reactors in aircraft carriers and nuclear submarines are still pretty big.The airlifted one can power military bases so they don't need as much fuel.And that's a new concept.Almost half of all US casualties in Iraq and Afghanistan were related to fuel transports so it's a big deal especially now that America will go into Iran and flying a drone into a fuel truck is super easy.
>>534140180>CanadaOh shit.Now you're really grasping at straws.You're gonna need an an assessment on how that may hurt indigenous or 2SLGBTQAAP+ people.And it's not easy getting them out of the ground as I already said it takes 29 years to build a mine.In Canada? fuhgetaboutit.
>>534140108>such a big deal>A functional, cost-effective nuclear core.It might be, you know, optimism.
>>534140368They do the raw processing on-site, using sunlight.Pretty cool.
>>534139960What? Cheap energy, what is next? Cheap gas, cheap houses, if that is possible. Goyim can start a family and have many children !
>>534138665>Appalachian mountainsIt’s illegal and unconstitutional to dig those up because they’re a national park
Should have married that girl from Appalachia. Her grandpa left her 20 acres, imagine the lithium under there.....fugggg
>>534138665>leftists when its coal minesMUH ENVIRONMENT>leftists when its lithium minesITS FOR THE ENVIRONMENT!No left leaning individual has ever seen the difference in the environment of a coal mine and a lithium mine obviously.
>>534140738Lithium "mining" (drying brine in large ponds using the sun) is perfectly fine for the environment.Biggest concern is water usage.
>>534140619Yeah, sorry. I thought I was going too far. It would be racist & anti-Semitic to be better than counties that can't built and run nuclear reactors. I'll stop.
>>534141019>totally fineyeah that's why you need N95 masks and PPE even being within 100 yards of a leeching pool of course.
>>534141048kek
>>534138665Yeah, absolutely. Wow, what a victory, you sure showed those chinks. DM me when they start to mine it, k?
>>534138665>This kills China.are you retarded? the US could get the cheapest lithium ever, but that wouln't make its batteries cheap.if anything, china wins here.>>534140252exactly this >>534140368. lithium isn't even expensive.
We can't use that because of oil and coal subsidies and lobbying. Did you forget all brouhaha with Plump and the Republicans dismantling all our wind and solar?Why would they embrace lithium batteries?
Wow, they're gonna rape and shit on my homelands with this one. As if the strip mining they do here and the windmills they put here aren't enough of a blight. It's such a beautiful part of the country and the people with money couldn't give two fucks about the poor, old, working class people living in those mountains. Sure, it'll boost the local economy, I guess...
>>534138812Not to infer that you are brown or anything, but you do understand the top of many, many mountains are ancient seabed, right..?
>>534141214It's salt.Salt.
>>534140137Yeah nobody remembers that or the thousands of people that drowned and the fact that entire towns disappeared.the dow is at 50,000 and Epstein killed himself and jews are our gods though
>>534139887Sodium is actually worse than lithium but its so much cheaper once economies of scale get up there that it will be better.Say for home solar. If you live in much of the US, a properly sized solar panel array isn't that expensive. It's the batteries that get you. Bring a DIY solar install down to under 10k for 30-50kwh or storage and it'd be a really good thing for a lot of people... and who cares if your batteries at home on a rack weigh more?
>>534138665Sweet. We can blow up more mountains in West Virginia
>>534141491>who cares if your batteries at home on a rack weigh moreWe need to go back to the cheap basic rebuildable lead-acid in glass.
>>534138665Also who the fuck is Ben costSounds like a kindly Indian scammer asking for crypto to gass our soil with lithium.Trying to 7 our soil and make it like it is down there? I heard there's more lithium in the 7 realm of heaven
>>534138665We need to quickly harvest this valuable resource and send it and the profits from it directly to Israel.
>>534141214>yeah that's why you need N95 masks and PPE even being within 100 yards of a leeching pool of course.Lithium is safe to eat, if anything it just stabilizes your mood.
>>534138665whose gonna mine it? Niggers? lmao you know how nininglithium how disasterous it is locally?
>>534138665stay out of my goddamned holler you cocksucking niggerfaggots
>>534138866Hey, are all Canadians as pro China as you? Because we get a lot of Canadian tourists around here and I'd like know before I start treating them like complete garbage, so I don't have to feel so guilty about it.
>>534138665
>>534138665By the time they even begin exploiting this find, the Chinese will be building cheaper, less dangerous Sodium Batteries.
>>534141890>pointing out obvious facts>pro chinago back to watching fox news boomer
>>534138809There are, but the engineering is still trying to meet up, meaning it will be decades before they surpass lithium.
>>534139630>Amerimutts dig for lithium inside a supervolcano>Supervolcano blows up and destroys Americaperfect kino ending for muttica
>>534138665I thought china’s thing was bismuth I would assume their lack of empathy and working conditions made lithium profitable
>>534141403Lithium is dense and would settle at the lower portions. You're thinking of quartz silicon maybe?
>>534138665>use weather mod program to steroid pump a hurricane and steer it directly through there>entire region gets decimated>jewish megacorporation immediately starts buying up as much property as possible>runs narrative control at the same time that it will be good for the region to buy it all up and turn it into a jewish resource raping hellholethe entire 0.1% class deserves to be brutally butchered and tortured at great length. they're globalist foreigners at this point.
>>534141403The Appalachians are basically solid volcanic rock covered in millions of years of soil made from rotting plant and animal matter. Not lithium minerals. Those are down in the large valleys. I do know the geology of the region. It'll likely be easy to get too. Lots of towns and rod networks, and mining is in the blood of those people.
>>534142609A bunch of different minerals. Lithium, neodymium, tungsten, bismuth etc.These resources are available just about anywhere the main difference is that they take no issue with completely fucking up their environment. Much harder to pull that stuff out of the ground economically in the US.
>>534138665Who cares? You need to refine it, and that's what we're dogshit at.
>>534138665that also destroys the US, lithium mining is the most toxic type of mining known to man.
>>534138812Shut up no one asked, nerd
>>534141890Hey israeli loyalist do you get paid to ignore reality as well or is that just a side effect
>>534142739I want to see any and all cryptids get exterminated by industry.
>>534138665Great, just level one of the most beautiful parts of our country for some batteries. Uncle Ted was right.
>>534143231What flag is that supposed to be
>>534143040I'm a geek, not a nerd you faggot.>>534143231The cryptids are never going away. They lurk and hollers and ridgelines, skulk the gaps and knobs, and have no fear and no weaknesses. But they're only a danger to the outsiders. The folk are safe from them.
>>534142494>>534143060>obvious facts>realityKek. Nice try chiangs, but you need to have a penis size longer than 4" to post in this thread.
>>534143645The absolute state of israeli loyalists
>>534143285Bulldoze the mountain methies. aigolumslop Imperium invicta!
>>534143285Just think of the stocks.
>>534139933
>>534139630good
>>534143939This is what happens when A hen zaps a faceNo GB wes your not Hen~Klover15
>>534140180That's a bunch of speculative bullshit. AI blah blah
>>534139960>Or is that anti-Semitic?If you have to ask then yes.About as antisemitic as affordable housing and healthcare but not quite as antisemitic as ethnically homogenous nations living at peace with eachother.
>>534140056No, it's that lithium is too volatile for how inefficient it is. Most of those coin & button-sized batteries have been lithium-ion since the 60s, which is a stupid moniker because all alkali metals are ionic by default. The only people who care about lithium deposits are VPN-samefagging retards like OP who don't know how a battery works, then posts some ChatGPT nonsense when they get called out by an anon.If a battery doesn't run off at least potassium at this point, it's not worth it. All a pile needs is a substrate that has open valence spots, and really good chemical solutions, because that's what drives the whole reaction. Until companies can figure out how to use the metals in the middle of the periodic table that aren't as unstable as alkalis are, battery beyond a gas-powered car are dead in the water.
>>534141491Interesting. I can't wait to see how sodium batteries innovate in the future. Sounds like it could be comfy.
>>534140137Or when that weather modification company killed all those kids in TX
>>534139933This is true.
>>534138809True. Stubbornly focusing on old age tech is Boomer mentality.
>>534141686If you understood the mechanism of how it stabilizes your mood, then you would understand that it is not entirely safe to eat.>t. serotonin syndrome understander
Are we being bombarded by Lithium at the atomic level right now? Lithium isn't native to earth."Lithium is not native to Earth in the sense that it was not formed on the planet; it is a primordial element created during the Big Bang approximately 13.8 billion years ago, with additional contributions from classical novae (stellar explosions)."
>>534138665this isn't real news, they always have articles about some rare earth material being found that's going to do X. rare earth materials can be found literally everywhere. the reason why china is the only place that produces the shit is because everyone just decided to ship their shit over to them to process it. this caused china to become the only country capable of refining shit like lithium at a global scale. no one else set up the manufacturing because it's cheaper to have china do it, and no one as of yet has invested in their own industry to make it possible without them.
>>534138665We have tons of coal as well. Guess what we don’t use as a cheap and reliable energy source?
>>534144464that picture are lithium deposits btw, america has more lithium than china. fucking bolivia has more lithium than china
>>534138809We did. Sodium dude.
>>534139887I think silver based is still the most premium battery options. But sodium is cheapest for density of energy and safety. Good enough for me.
>>534142739Anybody remember when the jews that brought us oxycontin were discovered to have systematically choosen Appalachia for genocide?
>>534143550For those who identify as animal fuckers
>>534138665this kills americadestroying some of the most beautiful parts if america, with the least niggers and browns, for batteries!?>lithium leach fields are where traitors go when the 9th circle of hell is to casual for them.regardless, the only reason china has the lithium infrastructure is because they bought american debt and america or europe going balls deep in african natural resources again didn't fit the narrative. there has to be a better option than blowing trumpet judgements on Maine.
There is probably more rare earth minerals undiscovered under federal lands than in all of china.
>>534138665Democrats will make sure to stop mining. As well as allt he coal there
>>534145004I agree. Its why we need to annex Canada send their current leaders to El Salvador and develop it for our industries.
>>534140614for contextany bird flying over those leeching pools dies before it reaches the other sidesuch is the musknot cool. death.
>>534144799It didn't really work. It affected suburban and urban people much harder. Trying to kill hillbillies off with drugs is like trying to kill finches with premium birdseed. Remember, these people have been doing meth and smoking weed and drinking shine for generations. They know how to handle drugs and addiction.
>>534138665>This kills China.
>>534138665The next democrat president will ban mining as will the state governors. Why? Because fuck you.
>>534138952I thought maybe they were talking about nuclear fusion.
>>534145686Tesla reactors and magnets before nuclear fission otherwise we will fukushima this great realm of the 4~Klover15
>>534138665>couldI'm sure in 2190 when the mine has finished its first stage of construction, china will be quaking it is boots as their ships take off to resupply the martian colonies
>>534145185this is genuinely disgusting
>>534138665>This kills China.no. this already KILLED appalchiathey already used HAARP to kill residents via "hurricane helene"
>>534145848are you scared little hispanic boy? afraid of the musk?
>>534140180Definitely not a scam
>>534140614>pretty coolthis shit is satanic
>>534141890Why would some Canadian care about hillbilly trash chimping out at them
>>534139746
>>534138665They knew about this kippah load long before the “once in a lifetime” hurricane they steered up there to disperse the locals
>>534139383they don't use picks and shovels anymore gramps heavy equipment operation is like playing a video game
>>534140551US already has mines. Processing is the bottleneck.
>>534141890Go ahead and treat us like garbage.No one cares what some backwoods retard thinks of them.
>>534144464Miggers are desperate for any win since their dear leader KWAB'd to China and now to Iran
>>534140529Yeah, flying a drone into your miniature nuclear power plant is pretty easy too.
>>534146461Electric cars aren't popular in the US. They only make up like 2 percent of all vehicles.
>>534146471The point he was making is that it prevents needless deaths while transporting fuel.
>>534145136It's why most countries don't want anything to do with rare earth processing.
>>534146575Which makes Americans much more vulnerable to gas prices than the ChineseWhich is why the Iran war is a footgun
>>534141686>Lithium is safe to eat,Then why does it have a long list of side effects which include vomiting, tremors, brain damage, coma, and death?>tried it once, lowest dose, had to go to ER for stomach pump before the vomiting stopped.
>>534139960holy shit is this website even moderated ? lock this sick fuck up
>>534146865Lithium is terrible for you
>>534145136And how many pigeons are killed from windmills? No one gives a fuck man. Birds are just Chinese spy drones anyways.
>>534146834Except US produces it's own oil in high enough amounts to be a net exporter which protects against it. It's why WTI(US oil) is $10-20 lower than Brent(UK oil) and $10-40 lower than OPEC Basket in current war.
>>534138665This is America. The feds will spend eleventy trillion on it. Somehow Elon will sue to get ownership rights to all of it, promising the moon. He'll never deliver, but he will be worth $10 trillion by 2030. The end.
>>534138665China will fund green groups (dems) so we cant mine it
>>534139933>The trick is to use everyone elses resources while paying them with money that isn't worth anything.Money's worth is based on faith. Hmm, where have I heard that word?
>>534147335It's literally impossible for China to fund the Democratic Party because of our Foreign Agents Restriction Act. If China would actually pull something like that, there would be serious legal consequences.
>>534138665China has already masted sodium ion dummy
>>534147454What, you've never heard of ACPAC?
$65 billionThe deposits that China owns in Africa is worth trillions.
>>534141403>>534142739This is false. Technically, everything is "ancient seabed" since the Great Flood covered the entire planet. >millions of yearsThe universe has only existed for ~6000.
>>534138665It is racist, ethnocentric AND antisemitic to discuss this.
This kills lithium and is easy to harvest
>>534138665Great so they will strip mine the forest, kill all the trees, destroy animals, all for some shit tier (((technology))). I hate this "country" with all my heart.
>>534147656Um, no, I haven't. Unless you're reffering to Advanced Clinician Practitioner in Arthritis Care.
>>534144464>rare earth material>lithiumwhy do people with 0 knowledge of chemistry always call random shit "rare earth"?>>534147201>US produces it's own oil>protects against itit doesn't protect americans from rising prices, which is what that anon argued, you RETARD
>>534149354Chemistry, geology, and metallurgy are top-tier fields. Most people are bored by them, which is a shame because they're very interesting and exciting once you get into the basics.
>>534138665lithium really?Do you americans not realize that shit is old as fuck tech?The new buzz is sodium you fucking retard
>>534139960>Or is that anti-Semitic?The only thing more anti-semitic than cheap, abundant energy is government/public owned cheap, abundant energy.
>>534149660the most basic yet complete info you can find for different elements is in the periodic table of elements, and can be found for free in the internet.literally anyone can check the part of the table where it says "rare earths".>>534149752>sodiumfrom what I've read, sodium has a different charge profile, which makes it completely unable to replace lithium in most use cases.source: ta too en yutu, hermano
>>534147987Cute how people still declare with complete lack of authority that the earth is 6000 years old because they read it online. The sun didn't exist until the 4th day and having the audacity to claim that God couldn't stretch the 3 days that came before that to billions of years as a mere human is insanely arrogant.
>>534138665That kills Appalachia
>>534147201The USA isn't even close to being a net oil exporter.
>>534149752The actual critical rare earths that China controls are way down the periodic table. Shit like gallium and molybdenum. They don't process them anywhere else. What people don't understand is China loses money on REEs because even they have to spend 10x money cleaning up the toxic spillover compared to how much they earn. It simply wouldn't ever work in a first world country that cares about the environment AND profits.
>>534150300Most people looking at the PT would get glazed eyes. They don't understand the sublime beauty of it at all. And good luck getting them to pronounce the elements.
>>534138665The US already has enough lithium and other rare earth mineralsWhat it lacks is the ability to process the mineralsAll the minerals in the US get mined, then sold to china for processing, then get bought back from china. That's the actual problem, there's no on-shore refining taking place, so finding new lthium deposits doesn't change fuck all. We already have enough lithium deposits, it just means more lithium gets sold to china and then bought back from china, it doesn't fundamentally solve the onshoring problem the US hasI hate having to explain this shit to people while MSM articles maliciously "inform" people the wrong things constantly.
>>534138665What about the other lode in the Great Basin? Geologists were saying the same about it.
>>534150506They should convert the NTS into a massive rare earth metal refining center. Keep the land under US gov control like Area 51 to the NE, but lease out the property to refiners and remove the environmental regs, just like MIC companies lease out Area 51.
>>534138665China is already moving on from lithium batteries and moving towards sodium ion, Graphene, and other similar tech. Maybe you can use all that lithium to medicate all of the bipolar bitches in your country.
>>534138665Get it from space with Da UFOz.
>>534138665NOOOOOOOOOO IT'S ENVIRONMENTAL UNFRIENDLY!
>>534138665Lithium isn't one of the rare earth metals.
>>534139502China is 48% wilderness they mog Amercia and especially Europe when it comes to nature.
>>534151994It unironically is, when even China has to dump billions into cleaning it, while not even breaking even on the business, you know it's bad. Like poisons your farmland and groundwater kind of bad.
>>534151994i say that and look like that, faggot
>>534138665China has shit for deposits they just refine it are you retarded
>>534150355You are either >atheistor>CatholicOpinion disregarded.
>>534138665Solid state batteries won't use lithium, so no.
>>534152810Maga is fine with USA becoming a resource colony for industrial China.
>>534138665*Banjo music starts*
we are a blessed nation
>>534141890I would be shocked if there were fewer than 300 items made in China in your home right now (and probably well over 1000 building materials). You sound like a triggered faggot that has a hard time coping with uncomfortable realities lol
>>534150376yawn, try harder doomer
>>534149354No, he argued that US is more vulnerable than China and that is incorrect. China is far more vulnerable than US because of how much oil it imports.
>>534138665This kills Appalachia.They will flood the area with cheap jeet and spic labor.
>>534141048Antisemitic is a retarded fucking word. Judeomisic, judeopathy or antijudeo is more apt. Arabs and mudslimes are only a problem here because of judeo policies.
>>534138809sodium batteries are competetive enough already
>>534139960You still always need batteries for shit even with plentiful nuclear power
These deposits are not new. They have known about them for close to 100 years. It is where the majority of the country's lithium was produced before the 1980s, when they stopped mining it for "economic reasons" (this means a right wing capitalist wanted to buy elsewhere for less).
Lithium was never the problem. It's rare metals like dysprosium, neodymiun, gadolinium that China has that we don't
>>534153891This is not a relevant point, because there is no "US". The only interests the government works for are those of the largest holders of capital. There is no nation. Just a political reality TV show propagandizing you into thinking you have one and trying to convince you that the wins of some capitalist are something you get to share in.China has a government that will actually invest in technological development to overcome its oil dependency. It may be entirely unsuccessful in doing so -- that's a realistic possible outcome. But it will try, it won't work tirelessly to preserve some capitalist's rentier income.
>>534138665I seriously doubt the native-Americans will allow you to despoil that piece of land.
>>534152290It was 73% wilderness ten years ago.It'll be 15% wilderness ten years from now.
>>534145185Inspiring.
>>534143060It's a side effect
>>534155239Okay, doomer.Why do you still live in US?
>>534155186maybe we should stop fucking around with f block materials and keep it simple
>>534153094You are circumcized
>>534155359Because I'm not Chinese.The reason why Chinese live in America is because most of them live exceedingly well. Luxury apartment blocks all over my area are brimful of young, fresh off the boat Chinese presumably going to the the university or working various high paying white collar jobs.The capitalist who owns the property certainly thinks the chicoms money is green enough for him.
>>534155186US has all of those though. >The U.S. has significant deposits of dysprosium, neodymium, and gadolinium, primarily found at the Mountain Pass mine in California, which is one of the richest rare earth deposits globally. https://mpmaterials.com/mountain-pass
>>534155457There are other communist nations you can go to. I hear Cuba has great healthcare. So great that champaign socialists bring them medical supplies for free when they crash the local electrical grid to power their iphones.
>>534155359To get a visa to live there, you need a bachelor's degree minimum. Attaining full citizenship is even harder. This is without even considering expenses or other challenges.
>>534155492We have environmental laws making it nigh impossible to refine and process them. We could easily set aside a lifeless wasteland like the Nevada Test Site for some facilities, but that would be easy and smart so unlikely to happen.
>>534155577mountain-pass isn't just a mine it's a rare earth refinery too. It was closing down in 2017 but was acquired specifically to counter China and keep rare earth refining and mining going in US. Since then it has grown exponentially as more and more companies are switching to US and away from China to supply their rare earth needs. https://mpmaterials.com/history/#timeline
>>534138866Regulation and corruption has completely destroyed the West's ability to innovate.They'd spend 20 years and $350b talking about it before finally cancelling it, never to be spoken about again.
>>534138812'beneath' appalachian mountains is 'down in one of the large valleys' asshole
>>534155815>>534138866mountain-pass only took 3 years to build. No idea at the cost but likely similar to other mines.
>>534155815It has nothing to do with regulations being too strict. This is a common rightoid parasite narrative that has no basis in reality.
>>534138665China's job is to mine their shit, selling it for nothing, and inhale pollution so I don't have to. We had a good thing going before Trump fucked it up
>>534155492we don't mine it is the point. china does. setting something up for ourselves will take a huge amount of time and capital
>>534138665Lithium isn't a rare resource at all. The capability of mining it is rare>>534155986It's not just that though. The refining facilities in China are far and above those of Europe and America. Even if the EU and US decided to heavily invest in mining today, it'd take at least 2 decades to reach China at its present state.
>>534138665china just gets L after L recently wow
>>534156049China's refineries are cheap because they don't give ONE SOLITARY SHIT about pollution. They will give birth to flipper babies and keep on polluting.
>>534155989>and capitalWell, good news on that front. Governments have theoretically unlimited capital. It's not in short supply. They don't need to go get it from someone else. They can't run out of it.But if the general population understood that, it would/could threaten existing private interests and rentier income.
>>534155989>we don't mine itWe do mine it though. mountain-pass is a mine that mines rare earths. Not sure why you are denying a literally existing right now company mining rare earths in the US. Now the new deposit that has just been found will take several years to develop but this is similar to other mines. And yes the west and specifically the US have committed to doing this since China has consistently raised tariffs and decreased sales of rare earths in the last 15 years. Australia has already invested heavily in developing it's own rare earth mines and refining with US soon to follow.
>>534156109Incorrect. China has made great strides in reducing it's pollution and healing the environment. Please stop posting your feelings and at least do a google search to stop sounding so ignorant.
>>534155989The US mines all the rare earths it needs. The US has never not had enough rare earths for its needs. The problem is that nobody in the US wants to invest in america anymore so they were digging the rocks out and selling them to china instead of refining them in americafinding more rare earths doesn't fucking mean anything when the US actually needs are fucking refineriesthis MSM shit piece in the OP is designed to maliciously inform people, it's completely fucking wrong about everything
>>534156185LOL, complete and utter horse shit. Just look at their AQIs. Just look at how many wells have water quality so low they can't even use it for agriculture. They keep pumping, though, which is why so much land is sinking. Absolute shit show with no sign of changing whatsoever. I mean seriously, why would the elite in China, who don't eat food made in China, give a single solitary shit about the hoi polloi?
>>534156235Shut up, Leaf. Why doesn't Canada export rare earths? Oh, you don't want to talk about Canada? Every fucking day leafs talk about the USA like it's their country. Fuck off
>>534156141just because a government can throw theoretically unlimited money at something isn't enough to convince a company to take on a 10+ year liability. especially when we're talking about trump who lies through his teeth and most of his policies will be rescinded when he is replaced by someone competent and reliable. this is why despite everything a lot of manufacturing isn't coming back to the us. manufacturers have been dissuaded, not convinced
>>534156235Wrong
>>534156276You're not going to be able to compete with china if you bury your head in the ground like a fucking retard and convince yourself they can't do anythingI am so fucking sick of morons like you. You're the reason stupid shit like the Iran war happens. Brain full of butterflies and rainbows instead of taking anything seriously because you have a superiority complex.you're a fucking obstacle to beating china in and of yourself because you're so fucking retarded you get in the way of people trying to seriously discuss and solve problems.gonna put your dumbfuck ass in my filter for the rest of the thread
>>534156361I'm honestly convinced Trump wants this country to fail. We're just here at Israel's convenience
>>534156361The government can throw that money around and set up its own facilities.
>>534156371Not wrong, that isn't built yet and everything I said is completely true
>>534156383Why would a leaf give a fuck about US competing with China? Canada is cutting itself off from the USA and joining the Chink commonweal
Why are some rabid americans and yuros obsessed with China?You'd think China once genocided them instead of the other way around in 1800.I mean if your people actually had a history of being grievously wronged by Chinese people, ok, but you guys can't even claim that much.Meanwhile europeans were literally kidnapping Chinese children off their coast in the mid-1700s and selling them off to Goa in West India. Yuros owe China a blood debt.
I've lived to see what mining did to china's mountainous regions. Totally ecocide. Not a tree, bug or a foot off top soil left. This would be the end of apalacia. And I've lived to see men take up arms against the mining companies, shoot their men, wash out their roads, blow up their power lines, spike their fuel and torch their heavy machinery. Appalachia belongs to the Appalachians and the federal government better well remember it.
>>534156481 <-Chink
>>534156481Implessive
>>534156416>incompetent trump establishment having the brains or the ability to set up a rare earth mining and processing on their owncome on now be reasonable. they need private companies to do organization, planning, heavy-lifting, etc more than ever. but those companies are largely not interested
>>534156430Its operational right now, numbnuts. It got built in 2024. Another plant is being put in to add to their throughput. There is a lot of shit going on in Texas no one is acutely aware of, you included.
>>534156442Except Alberta which will secede from Canada and join US once they get their voting done in the next few months.
>>534139746yeah and grocery stores supply food, if we just build 1000 grocery stores we'll have unlimited food, wow, i am smart.
>>534156537I doubt they will join the US. Declare independence, maybe. Big maybe
>>534156506>>534156521>avoids the questionWhy are you rabidly anti-ChinaChina and Chinese have never touched a hair on your heads and if anything have treated yuros with (too much if you ask me) kindness.Those orc despoilers Tolkien wrote about in the land of Sindarin? He was writing about you.
>>534141019just to mention, this photo isnt from the us, its in south america, even the vest of the guy says VISITA.
>>534156652Anti-Chinese? I said from the start that it was a great thing that they are killing themselves and mining their shit for us.
>>534147987>Believing in the Jewish creation myth
>>534140180>Invest in NASDAQ listed ALOY today for maximum returns>These metals barely exist out of china and we are using AI to mine themWhat a load of fucking nonsense, though i'm sure they will have a mine in 30 years if you give them enough money. China should be shitting their pants in 30 years or something.
>>534156522So many of y'all are living in the past. Many companies are attempting (and succeeding) in resource recovery, refinement and fab in North America. Theres plenty of government and private money being leveraged for this purpose. The war between China and the US has already begun and China is on the back foot because their energy needs aren't being met before they can fully switch to nuclear. Say what you will about the Trump administration and the deep state, but don't count them out just yet.
>>534153094You are cattle in body and mind.
>>534139933Became lost technology after America started screaming at everyone to become trans. While pushing Muslims into everywhere after bombing them out of their holes.
>>534155815Not entirely. The west can still innovate, it is just easier to take those innovations to China to get them made. Australia basically invented modern solar panels and all the guys went to China to get them made because fuck giving people overtime, pensions, etc. with a system that tries to extract 10% at every stage, even the monetary system taxes you at 2-6% for holding it.
>>534140180The US used to refine rare earths. US Molycorp was basically the biggest player in that field. Then they got out-competed by China and the company shut down.For the last 15 years or so Australian company Lynas has been able to supply refined rare earth metals independent of China at basically the same price as China. But no, the US keeps buying from China anyway, because they are fucktards. Lynas sells to Japan and Taiwan instead.
>>534156699No you're being dishonest. You and OP have China on the brain. Everything you do or say is centered around China.You're basically the equivalent of this guy:>https://www.youtube.com/shorts/PuTAyjnUFH0Invasion of Ukraine? China's fault not mine!Middle eastern wars? China!Wealth disparity, no free healthcare, garbage in the food in my country? China china china china china china china
>>534157027You should read your own post before accusing others of delulu thoughts. Did I mention Ukraine, the middle east, or health care? Stupid chink
>>534138665All that lithium in Appalachia is from me. Its where I used to cook my meth.
>>534138665>lithium... could supply the US with powerThat's not how Lithium works, do these people understand electricity at all?
faggots go all in on techbro shit while my caterpillar stonks are up 120%
>>534157092Not in this thread maybe but you've already mentioned enough to reveal your intentions are impure.For instance, Lithium. The goal should eventually be green energy that doesn't create climate change or localized air pollution. Instead you're just talking about it in the context of taking down China's battery economy, which has nothing to do with the purpose of the technology.And you call random people chinks in your post itself, more proof you're rabidly anti-China for some reason.
>>534157272I'm anti-Chinese, just like the CPC is. The CPC doesn't work for the Chinese. They work for international investors who want slave labor who will consume all the pollution and dirty "food" made in China. They are a slave race and China is a polluted hellscape. The very idea that this is somehow good for the environment because they make lithium mbatteries goes to show how completely and utterly you have swallowed the CPC propaganda. Now go be a good little chink and keep supporting the CPC so I can buy cheap shit.
>>534156745Why do fedoras still post here? You lost. >>534156802Your country is the equivalent of an ant that survives only because America has not rolled over it in our sleep.
>>534157272> anti-China for some reason.>for some reasonAnon, I-
>>534145004>there have never been mines in Appalachia
>>534157272>climate change or localized air pollutionUnfortunately, you just guaranteed that nobody here will listen to you. Even if you could convince the average migger that those are real (highly doubtful), they wouldn't consider it a problem worth caring about, and they'd happily despoil the land, air, and water just to spite "the left". Any migger overtures to the effect of environmentalism are just more reflexive anti-China signalling because China and India are technically worse (albeit not per capita).
>>534157398They literally have done nothing to your people in the history of the world, whereas (assuming you're white european) you've committed countless crimes of humanity against them.CPC count of your post: 4China/chinese/chink count: 5And even regarding the point of your post, "international investors" originally came from the US, so why the scapegoating/double standard. Even today US people hold the most capital.>>534157401If you condense all the reasons US has to hate China and vice versa for the last 1000 years, China's list would dwarf yours, and yet Chinese workers don't even think about you or Europeans.
>>534138665Now the eternally poor appalachian hillbillies have no excuse for being poor.
>>534157586Agreed on all points. Re-read my post. CPC is on my side, not yours.
>>534157649The fact you even bring them up proves my point.
>>534157686Proves, what, that the CPC and I are on the same side and against the Chinese? Yes.
>>534143563>I'm a geek, not a nerd you faggot.Holy fucking cringe, bullying needs to come back
>>534157586Good boy! Who's a good CCP stooge? Its:(you)!You know I'm right. If China was so great, why did your family flee from there and move to Canada in the West, instead of staying in your homeland?Everyone knows that its because China is awful and the West is better.
>>534157586Miggers blame China for the West shipping all their production and jobs overseas, as if China as an (at the point it happened) irrelevant shithole held a gun to the head of Western capitalists to force them to do so. They also harbor a violent hate of anything even aesthetically connected to communism (even though they're always quick to dismiss China as following "State Capitalism" fascism, or even National Socialism whenever China does something even they can't denigrate). Though many of them hate boomers, they still hold a grudge against every member of the "Axis of Evil" the TV (or their favorite podcaster) tells them to hate. Finally, they see antagonizing China as another way to own the libs, even though most libs also hate China because "muh anti-trans conversion camps", "muh Hong Kong protests", "muh Taiwan", " muh Tianmen Square", "muh Wigger genocide", etc.
>>534157707Proves you have China on the brain constantly for no justifiable reason.Even if you wanted a brighter future for white kids, China isn't in the way of that. If anything cooperation with China is the way to achieving that.If the US told China tomorrow they wanted all Chinese nationals out of the US and would cooperate with China to repatriate them, China would agree in a nanosecond. All those Falun Gong cultists, transnational capitalists that fled China with their money, political dissenters etc.
>>534157775CCP: 1China: 2Again, the fact there is the concept of a stooge in any discussion proves my point.China derangement syndrome.
>>534153094p*otestant filth
>>534157937The fact you can't separate the CPC from "China" proves you're a CPC anti-Chinese shill.
>>534158137CPC: 2China: 1Utterly obsessed. You know what I'm going to take one out of China's playbook and stop interrupting you.
>>534158265As I said, slave race. Can't even tell who is killing your kind. Did you know Mao killed many times over the number of Chinese than the Japanese could ever dream of? Now go make cheap shit for me to buy
>>534156537>get their voting doneBetter slow down, in the USA alone it could take 20 years to get this done.
>>534155921That was like a century ago when nobody cared about the environment.>>534138866Lithium is not a rare earth metal
>>534138665>supply with powerlithium doesnt produce eneregy
>>534138952>>534138665Nuke production input. Convenient that big lithium deposits were 'found' 3 weeks after Biden's Afghan pullout.
USA is one of the most industrialized countries in the world. The shitbrown bricsniggers claiming that Americans wont mine in their backyard are out of their minds
>>534140180>It BACKFIRED because of a new company wanting investment using AI!
Who is going to mine it?Your liberal arts retards?
>>534138665More pristine lands for mutts to rape and plunder in the service of their jew rat masters
>>534140180>This new hardware tech startup scam will destroy china's actual output People have been saying this for decades at this point.
>>534145848pedophile
>>534148493WOW~ tell me more :3
>>534138809sodium batteries are coming and are going make lithium irrelevant for things bigger than a computer. electric cars will be hybrid and have sodium batteries and synthetic gasoline in 10 years time.
>>534155921Mountain Pass is also still there, it never ran out of minerals. Just got mothballed due to environmental vs cost issues.
>>534138665I'll fucking die preventing you parasites from raping my home
>>534161579Its america. They'll rape your land and resources, then throw you a giftcard for walmart as compensation
>>534139960How the fuck are you going to get a nuclear reactor the size of a fucking AA battery you fucking retard? Why are you people here so fucking stupid?
>>534161712If energy is cheap you can just beam it wirelessly constantly and we won't even need batteries.
>>534146291Have you seen their jeet tier oil rigs? They'll have them mine it bare handed.
>>534158347>Can't even tell who is killing your kind.CCP is. killed something like a billion people since 1948. Their own with starvation and pollution and the rest of the world with shit like melamine, lead and cyanide in all their shit products.
>>534161931>beam it wirelesslyAtmospheric blooming has never been solved.
>>534138665>Believing kike media
>>534139420lol
Even if we had a Chinese level of supply chain creation capability (right now we only know stock buybacks, palantir, eat hot chip and lie) it would take like 5 years for production to come online. China does not have a monopoly on these deposits they're just the only ones willing to develop them
>>534138665don't do it, faggots
>>534162419Ever worked in a lithium mine? I have and the sufuric acid ate my shirts that shit is dripping everywhere
>>534140551They bought into some American mine, I bought some stock when I heard the news. They’re supposed to start processing next year
>>534141214>reeee you need PPE in a mineYou need PPE to walk in a perfectly safe yard, stupid
Wow so many shills? Not even using a proxy. Yes, please push blue. Destroy the trees. Fuck greens. But most of all fuck the bugs (worms included ( (not spiders) )
>>534163023>fuck the bugsstop with the sinophobia
>>534138665time to kill some Injuns again?
>>534141890I think its safe to say that you can just start dropping bricks on cars with Canadian plates from the overpass. Then again you might be doing them a favor
>>534156383Thats a lotta cope there Chang, sorry the jeets shat in your dog noodles but calm down
>>534164226Based. >>534164342Lmao.
>>534147372>be obese country>God makes you run at churchPraise the Lord for He knoweth what things ye have need of before ye ask Him.
>>534147372Also what's the deal with the Portuguese flag? Is this actually a Portuguese synagoge?
>>534140180>powered by AI Come on lol. Investors can’t be that gullible.
>>534138665OH WOW THE PSYOP SUDDENLY SHOWS ITSELF NOW WE KNOW WHY THEY FLOODED THE AREA WITH HAARPNIGGER NO I'M NOT A YELLOW CHINESE FAGGOT, BEFORE YOU EVEN TRY THAT.EVERYONE QUIT KILLING YOUR OWN PEOPLE.
>>534140614Can you guys give me some lecture on that process? Looks cool.
>>534138665Sounds like a good reason for China to invade the US
>>534161666God damn I want china to conquer us so bad so I can just have my life.
>>534141890Go ask your Rabbi first or after you are done sucking his dick since your president does it too.
>>534143645Good thing yours was cut then huh, Zoggy?
>>534138665how? lmao. theres no scenario where the usa suvives its capitalist shlomo spiral into evergrowing profit-seeking and price increases while keeping wages down and just allowing more labor into the country to compensate for lack of commensurate output
robocop is the american future not any version of any happily ever after disney movie its so obvious to anyone who is paying a single speck of attention. weve already got the biff tannen president form the bad back to the future future. creative americans with a bit of foresight predicted all this happening 40 years ago
>>534141403What makes him obviously brown is the desperation with which he tries to shit talk White American Greatness.
>>534167221>creative americans with a bit of foresight predictedclose, americans and british billionaires, trillionaires and elites manufactured consent by tapping every esoteric and mind control and brainwashing technique know to man
>>534167510>More desperate brownian conjecture
>>534167633t. twitch stream enjoyer
